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Submitted by janis b on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 10:34pm

Since I’m not a phone person I could use some help/recommendation.

Before I travel overseas to spend time with my daughter and her family I want to replace my 2012 iPhone. I would like to replace it with a refurbished one that has a better camera. I realise that the best cameras are the newest and 'pro' ones, but I just want one good enough to record special moments with loved ones, and unexpected encounters.

I welcome any ideas and experiences.

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Submitted by Tall Bald and Ugly on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:17pm

Hey Janisb

my old(2015) iphone se just died after
a long and valiant service and now I’ve got
a refurbished iphone8 for less than two c notes
still an older unit but with max storage

don’t know if this helps
more of a fwiw kinda thing

Good luck and safe travels

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Submitted by janis b on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:37pm

Thank you sir

@Tall Bald and Ugly

The iPhone 8 is one that I began my consideration of. I will consider it further.

Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:37pm

This is a good website for gathering information concerning

phones from various manufacturers, it offers reviews which includes camera features. It also has information about older models that might be in your price range.

https://www.gsmarena.com/

Submitted by janis b on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:45pm

Thank you for the website humphrey

@humphrey

I will look at it closely tomorrow with a clearer head. My good friend and wonderful photographer has always used a Samsung phone camera for her work when not using her 'official' camera gear, and produces amazing work with it. The problem for me is that since the beginning I have only worked with apple products and wonder whether I could adjust and get comfortable with another format. Maybe it's time to risk a try?

Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:57pm

Here is a link to the iPhone 8 review.

@janis b

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_8-review-1664.php

Personally I use a Samsung A71 (more so for the larger screen size) that has good camera features. As far as switching phone manufacturers they operate basically the same not really a difficult learning curve.

Submitted by janis b on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 12:13am

Thanks for the review

@humphrey

and the casual confidence regarding switching formats. I will definitely consider the advantage of screen size. I never heard of Bezel before, but it must make a difference in viewing.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:42pm

My Samsung 7 galaxy phone camera sucked bigly

It tinted too yellow but other than that it was decent for sharpness. I have an iPhone 13 Pro and some times I think the pictures look grainy because they are so sharp. I’d rather use my 10 mp camera but the battery won’t stay charged.

Apple offers refurbished iPhones. I’d check them out.

You gonna swing by Utah while you’re here? Sam is dying to meet you.

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Submitted by janis b on Sat, 07/29/2023 - 11:54pm

Tell Sam I feel the same, and give her a big hug from me

@snoopydawg

Unfortunately, I'm traveling to a different continent in November. I'd like though to visit my sister in Washington state if possible next summer. Maybe we can meet somewhere in-between?

Thank you for your experience regarding the ultra sharpness of some digital cameras. I can understand the issue of it translating as too grainy.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 12:05am

I have been a Mac user my whole life

@janis b

and only got the galaxy because I couldn’t afford the extra monthly $$$ for the iPhone. I detest android and PC products and I don’t think you would be happy with one. I’d suggest finding an apple phone that fits your needs instead of settling for an android. You can work around the grainy photos and I’m quite happy with my phone.

As for meeting somewhere it depends on gas prices. I have to say that I’m royally pissed that they went up so much just as I got my trailer. I had plans to do a lot of traveling through the states, but it’s just too gd expensive right now.

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Submitted by janis b on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 12:17am

Thanks for your clear statement and experience

@snoopydawg

Idaho is not that far, and I've never been there. But if there was one state I'd easily want to revisit, it would be Utah.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 10:04am

Idaho is a pretty state too

@janis b

I spent a lot of time there until I moved to California and just haven’t been back. The sawtooth mountains are awesome and the lake up near the top. Cour D lane which I’m not spelling right.

Another thing to think about is security and apps. I don’t have to give apps access to my phone like I did with android. They might have done it anyway who knows but I at least didn’t give permission.

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Submitted by janis b on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 12:48am

Thank you guys for the input

Rather than being confusing by individual and varying experiences, it's been very helpful in my effort to consolidate knowledge with what is potentially a good fit for me.

Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 6:00am

Hi Janis, a little late but a year of travel has

helped clarify our phone situation. We started out all Mac/Apple phones and computers. Then my iPhone failed just out of warranty (I swear it's a thing). Android maker One Plus here in Europe was offering new phones at under 200 euros. We bought one.

I adjusted in about two weeks. Tried to convince mon mari that it was worth the change, but he was skeptical and replaced his iPhone with an iPhone 8 which failed almost immediately. More phone drama later, he eventually got another.

Here's his write up for you...

We have two Android Phones since 2021 after about eight years of iPhones. We had very bad experience with iPhones, $800, $550, a refurb for $200. All went kaput just outside of warranty. We had almost continual problems charging them. We refurbed several hand-me-downs before giving up.

We have a OnePlus Nord N100, 64GB, $135, and a N20 SE, 64GB, $150. The N models may not be available in the U.S.

You do have to learn new ways of operation, but it is not bad. The on-screen keyboards are better than the iPhones. The cameras seem better.

The only functionality we lost was iMessages and synching with iCloud contacts and calendars. We just use WhatsApp for internet text messages and if we need iMessages, go to our Macbooks.

Before mon mari, I was married to a pirate who just happened to be a Brooks graduate landscape nature and small product commercial photographer. I learned so much about looking for shots and composition by osmosis rather than book or school learning. Really love analog photography. Digital is so thin.

Anyway, pretty picky about color fidelity, composition, perspective. These Androids are surprisingly good photo takers. They are just slightly wider than 55. But Have enough options for shooting that control is possible. The one thing is the auto focus on front of camera or only on the background. Easily by-passed by pre focusing on something in the background to get all focal lengths. Once that is automatic, most images are sharp.

I hope this helps in your decisions. Jumping away from a known format is so hard to contemplate. I always so enjoy your photos, compositions and narrations. You inspired me to look at beach sand on the Atlantic coast, and saw much more than I would have. Small scale things can be so interesting; patterns in nature can be so, so beautiful.

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Submitted by QMS on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 10:57am

Hey Dawn

@Dawn's Meta

good to see you back
been wondering where
you had gotten off to
cheers!

helped clarify our phone situation. We started out all Mac/Apple phones and computers. Then my iPhone failed just out of warranty (I swear it's a thing). Android maker One Plus here in Europe was offering new phones at under 200 euros. We bought one. I adjusted in about two weeks. Tried to convince mon mari that it was worth the change, but he was skeptical and replaced his iPhone with an iPhone 8 which failed almost immediately. More phone drama later, he eventually got another. Here's his write up for you... We have two Android Phones since 2021 after about eight years of iPhones. We had very bad experience with iPhones, $800, $550, a refurb for $200. All went kaput just outside of warranty. We had almost continual problems charging them. We refurbed several hand-me-downs before giving up. We have a OnePlus Nord N100, 64GB, $135, and a N20 SE, 64GB, $150. The N models may not be available in the U.S. You do have to learn new ways of operation, but it is not bad. The on-screen keyboards are better than the iPhones. The cameras seem better. The only functionality we lost was iMessages and synching with iCloud contacts and calendars. We just use WhatsApp for internet text messages and if we need iMessages, go to our Macbooks. Before mon mari, I was married to a pirate who just happened to be a Brooks graduate landscape nature and small product commercial photographer. I learned so much about looking for shots and composition by osmosis rather than book or school learning. Really love analog photography. Digital is so thin. Anyway, pretty picky about color fidelity, composition, perspective. These Androids are surprisingly good photo takers. They are just slightly wider than 55. But Have enough options for shooting that control is possible. The one thing is the auto focus on front of camera or only on the background. Easily by-passed by pre focusing on something in the background to get all focal lengths. Once that is automatic, most images are sharp. I hope this helps in your decisions. Jumping away from a known format is so hard to contemplate. I always so enjoy your photos, compositions and narrations. You inspired me to look at beach sand on the Atlantic coast, and saw much more than I would have. Small scale things can be so interesting; patterns in nature can be so, so beautiful.

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Submitted by janis b on Tue, 08/01/2023 - 12:22am

Hi Dawn

@Dawn's Meta

Thank you and your Mari for relating you experience with phone cameras. I am very happy to see you and your comment here. So, you’ve been travelling. I hope it has been rewarding. I've wondered about you both and how you are faring. I hope your house and health problems are resolving themselves, and you are finding more comfort.

I will definitely take your experience with apple products into consideration. So far, it seems like the possibilities here are mostly limited to apple and samsung. There are a few other minor choices, but I'm not confident there is the support or repair possibilities available here.

Please let me know, privately if preferred, how you both are.

All the best, and thank you again.

helped clarify our phone situation. We started out all Mac/Apple phones and computers. Then my iPhone failed just out of warranty (I swear it's a thing). Android maker One Plus here in Europe was offering new phones at under 200 euros. We bought one. I adjusted in about two weeks. Tried to convince mon mari that it was worth the change, but he was skeptical and replaced his iPhone with an iPhone 8 which failed almost immediately. More phone drama later, he eventually got another. Here's his write up for you... We have two Android Phones since 2021 after about eight years of iPhones. We had very bad experience with iPhones, $800, $550, a refurb for $200. All went kaput just outside of warranty. We had almost continual problems charging them. We refurbed several hand-me-downs before giving up. We have a OnePlus Nord N100, 64GB, $135, and a N20 SE, 64GB, $150. The N models may not be available in the U.S. You do have to learn new ways of operation, but it is not bad. The on-screen keyboards are better than the iPhones. The cameras seem better. The only functionality we lost was iMessages and synching with iCloud contacts and calendars. We just use WhatsApp for internet text messages and if we need iMessages, go to our Macbooks. Before mon mari, I was married to a pirate who just happened to be a Brooks graduate landscape nature and small product commercial photographer. I learned so much about looking for shots and composition by osmosis rather than book or school learning. Really love analog photography. Digital is so thin. Anyway, pretty picky about color fidelity, composition, perspective. These Androids are surprisingly good photo takers. They are just slightly wider than 55. But Have enough options for shooting that control is possible. The one thing is the auto focus on front of camera or only on the background. Easily by-passed by pre focusing on something in the background to get all focal lengths. Once that is automatic, most images are sharp. I hope this helps in your decisions. Jumping away from a known format is so hard to contemplate. I always so enjoy your photos, compositions and narrations. You inspired me to look at beach sand on the Atlantic coast, and saw much more than I would have. Small scale things can be so interesting; patterns in nature can be so, so beautiful.

Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Tue, 08/01/2023 - 7:59am

Hey Janis good to be home.

@janis b It's a long story, but upshot is one thing after another with our house and health, we slowly uncovered lots of toxins and almost lost our health trying to stay on. We have learned so much about how we humans build systems that in the end create dangerous environments for ourselves and other species on the planet. We ran from a place we love.

We don't know if we can stay even with a year of absence and leaving everything to mellow out.

Hi Dawn

@Dawn's Meta

I can imagine how painful it might be to leave a home that you love because of the risks it presents. I hope you and your home find a way to accommodate each other. If not, I hope you find a better way.

Submitted by Socialprogressive on Sun, 07/30/2023 - 8:45am

Have you considered Motorola

I'm not a fan of either Apple or Samsung products so when it comes to phones I've always used Motorola phones. They do everything the others do at a fraction of the cost. I'm currently using the Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G. $299 at Bestbuy.

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