Open Thread - 7/7/23 - It ain't just younguns who are goofy

We oldsters can do some wild and crazy things, too!

Not to let the 4th of July vacay at Gulf Shores, Alabama go by without doing something dangerous enough that we had to sign a big bunch of waivers before taking the little ride, we got on a bouncing yellow raft, called a banana boat. I didn't fall off, but came close. Like some others on the damn thing. We were pulled across waves by a bad ass jet ski, bouncing up and down, came up to a boat.

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Credit: Ike's Beach Service Gulf Shores, Alabama

Once there at the speed boat, we were put in a harness, told to slide on our butts to the dangling harness connections from the sail.

And then, the boat took off, up we sailed. Out, out over the waters, looking for sharks, hoping the rope tethering us to the boat was in great shape. Cool breeze, quiet, surreal, not thinking about how we weren't told how to disconnect from the boat if it flipped and sank.

This is a crappy quality phone video, but it shows a parasail and banana boat (It's not us, but it was taken from our balcony).

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I can't wait to do it again!

Lots of young people lined up to go. Only two oldsters. Us, 69 and 71.

Below is a lovely video of the July 3rd full moon on the beach. I forgot my camera, this is a phone camera. Apologies, but you will get the drift. Video taken from the balcony of the condo we rented. Check out the people walking on the beach with flashlights.

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The "holiday" celebrating the prelude to war is done, but not my vacay. A taste of what is an hour and 20 minutes away, the band we will watch this Sunday in concert on Taylor Bayou Labelle, Texas:

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What is going on in your world? Should you be old, have you still have adventures ahead of you? Will you ever quit?

I won't. We won't.

Let it all hang out.

And, Open Threads are for all things.

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I hope this OT finds you happy, healthy, and wise!
What's going on in your neck of the woods?

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Our line is, we ain't 20 anymore, but we can pretend.

Y'all missed the Mullet toss at the Florabama I'm afraid. (They usually have a good bands all the time though). The bar/eatery is half in FL and half in Alabama.
You typically can find pretty good music all year down there.

Enjoy!

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@Lookout Glad you brought it to our attention!

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again this morning, and my early check of the radiation map for Ukraine shows that all the glowy bits are still more or less safely ensconced in their glowy-bit-places. So there's why.

https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#6/49.781/29.740/gamma

So now, we wait. Will it be today, or tomorrow? Enquiring minds want to know.

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@usefewersyllables about it, since it is completely beyond my control.
We all die, after all.

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not sure whether to play 'riders on the storm' or 'wipeout'
in honor of your youthful adventures

thanks for the zydeco!

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@QMS @QMS

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@QMS The Cajun and zydeco music trickles over to Texas. I have had neighbors who were Cajun. I have had friends and family work the oil patch in Louisiana. Brother lived and worked there for 2 years.
My Mom's family is Creole.

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@on the cusp

twixt Morgan City and Greens Bayou
a similar mix of swamp
and cowboy cultures there

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From this blathering "colloquy" on Counterpunch:

Richard Falk: Can I ask you just one quick clarifying question, which is how then do you account for the popularity that Putin seems to enjoy with the Russian people if the country, except for Moscow, seems on the verge of collapse.

I'm imagining Russians telling Richard Falk: "Keep saying that!" (Russians to everyone else: don't breathe a word!)

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@Cassiodorus a few years ago. It is mostly drivel.

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but they're still continuing. Next up (later this month) is a few days at Cambria at a place on Moonstone Beach Drive. Cross the road and you're on a boardwalk paralleling the water, connecting assorted coves and beaches, a park and, of course, the Pacific. It runs into a good sized cliff top preserve with a variety of habitats, including marshland, forest, and grassland. Good place for watching birds, terrestrial critters and marine life, tidepooling and all that. There is plentiful supply of nature and beaches from slightly north of town all the way to slightly south of Pismo, plus a fair handful of wineries further inland, and a working harbor with great fish tacos at Morro Bay, along with a huge wetlands preserve.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

some other quirky 'hep' sayings:
I'm on it
no problem
absolutely
you got it ..

language learned in the twit-o-sphere

how to expand youthful sound bites into
something like reasoned response?

apparently, engaging the mind takes too long

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@QMS

n/t

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@QMS

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

What happened to "You're welcome"? These days, when I say "Thank you!" to a person younger than a certain age, the response is "Of course", not "you're welcome". That grates on me for reasons that I simply can't put a finger on.

Language is ever-evolving: but it seems to this very cynical older reporter that it is evolving away from politeness as a valuable concept... Sigh. To me, anyway, manners still maketh man.

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@usefewersyllables

language and thoughtfulness
made their escape velocity
several orbits ago

eschewing the most current
mindless responses seems
to be an attempt at
communication?

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@QMS

made a short trip to the swimming pool at our apartment complex over the 4th. We didn't stay long, as it was overrun by badly behaved tweens. However, one thing really stuck with both of us: one roughly 12-year-old boy in the pool yelled at his mother "Mom, I want my goggles. NOW! NOWWWWWW!". And damned if she didn't dutifully stand up, walk over, and bring them to the little bastard, without a word.

We both looked at each other as we were walking away, and agreed that, had either of us demonstrated the sheer effrontery to utter such a thing to our parents, and in that tone of voice: we would have been instantly fungoed into next week, and I don't mean maybe.

This is the reason that we decided to never have children. If we had, we'd probably both be in prison by now.

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in all things, less considerate and more inconsiderate.

That said and/or aside I've never really been much of a "you are (very) welcome" or even "y'r welcome" type of guy but more of a "my pleasure" or "de nada" type. I think it may have to do with "welcome" being very much the wrong word, to my way of thinking, but I really don't know. Truth be told, I've always had a bit of a problem with "manners", too close to "mannerisms" for me. Courtesy, especially common courtesy, while linguistically no doubt just as corrupt, is a different matter. I think it has something to do with the artificiality of "manners", "being polite" having been reduced to a whole shitload of pointless artificial strictures codified and/or invented by the likes of Emily Post. Superficial and superfluous, demonstrating nothing more than that one has learned these behaviors. "One simply cannot wear white or linen before some pointless date or after some other pointless date" pfah! Give Lady Astor my regards, but, no. The whole subject always calls Miss Otis to mind.

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It really is the wrong word, isn't it? But it's the one enshrined in the collective memories of a lot us... And it's funny: "my pleasure" and "de nada" both work just fine for me as well.

After some thought: I think my issue with the whole thing is that my upbringing is to complete the conversation. Offering thanks is a very sincere form of compliment, after all, and only a complete ingrate would fail to respond with some form of returned greeting, generally implying and/or accompanying a smile.

Which brings me to "of course". That's not a completion of the conversation. Where that grates on me is the unspoken subtext: "Of course you'll say thank you, you sap, you have to. But I don't have to issue anything more than an equally meaningless dismissal."

No acknowledgement that thanking the person was an entirely optional nicety. The tacit assumption appears to be that I must say it, and therefore the gesture (and indeed the entire interaction) was intrinsically meaningless.

Oh, well- I know that I'm farting in the wind, and I'm probably just makin' shit up anyway. Must be like our parents felt when the damned Beatles showed up...

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Must be like our parents felt when the damned Beatles Bo Diddley showed up...

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris that is governed by the penal code is strictly observed. Otherwise, we do as we damn well please.
Enjoy your sightseeing.

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@on the cusp

Hawks in the preserve, hunting the forest edge. I had to check to verify that they hung out there, because they're not that common. Morro Bay, if we pop down there, is always full of otters, if nothing else. I won't tell you about the winery tasting room with the great wood fired pizzas. Wink

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris wood fired pizzas there? What's wrong with Newsom!
The hawks and otters sound way cool.
We only saw one dolphin from the balcony. We normally see 4 or 5.
We meant to take a birding habitat drive, but got busy with other things. We will catch it next time.
Behave yourself at the winery.
I admit to skipping the luxury wineries with their resorts, spas, and top tier chefs in the Texas Hill Country. Neither of us drinks wine.

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yeah that would have been one of my questions. I’ve always wanted to go parasailing. Closest I’ve gotten to it is the giant swing in Vegas. Strapped into a harness and hoisted lots and lots of feet into the air and then let go. I at first thought no way until my friend tried to freak me out and after telling her I wasn’t afraid, I wasn’t. Bummer tho that one of my feet slipped out and I thought it was going to hit the sign going 70 mph and be ripped off…I’d do it again.

Brutal!

After examining an unknown substance discovered on White House grounds, the Secret Service told reporters Wednesday that the mysterious white powder found in the West Wing had been identified as President Joe Biden. “Through extensive forensic testing we’ve determined the composition of the white powder to be President Biden himself,” said Secret Service spokesperson Andrew Rabney, confirming that investigators had retrieved security-camera footage of Biden dissolving into a pile of dust after tripping and falling. “Apart from the fact that he was completely powderized, we do not believe the president has suffered any adverse health effects. Being a loose white powder should also have no effect on President Biden’s work or ability to campaign. We will be placing the Biden powder in a Tupperware container for safekeeping.” At press time, Hunter Biden was seen snorting the powdery remains of his father.

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@snoopydawg

with fainting couches
and splendid portraits
of dead white folks

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@snoopydawg you survived it.
Hunter, the coke addict, who doesn't go through a security clearance, is being cruelly accused of bringing his stash to the White House.
People are jumping to illogical conclusions. s/

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@humphrey I will be sure to watch it this afternoon.
I want his opinion on smart cities and our commitment to support Israel, as Israel slaughters Palestinians.
We shall see.

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Over the last few weeks, several black boxes in my equipment have failed.
Coincidence or EMP? Maybe a warm-up for more-focused beams to come?

Personally, I'm pissed. Freezing the operation of refrigerators,
washers, dyers, tractors and other stuff is mostly an inconvenience
at this point. Expensive to fix as the techs are swamped with this shit.

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a solar max, and the flare activity has been picking up. I don't think that we're being pulsed, but I do know that the national power grid is not immune to nightwierdies from planetary-level events like big flares. It is hard to do a small EMP, after all (Project Atlas-1/Trestle comes immediately to mind). And I don't think that any of us would miss a big one...

Here at my nerd day job, we've logged a larger number of power excursions (both surges and sags) than usual. They don't look qualitatively different, there are just more of them. And given the rate of building and development, I shouldn't be surprised- the electrical infrastructure here in the Denver area is not keeping up with the load.

I can't find any online power grid ground-current monitoring resources (no surprise- they're probably classified). But this very stale and boring paper covers part of what I pay attention to at my day job: https://www.energy.gov/ceser/articles/geomagnetic-disturbance-monitoring... . And if I get any inkling of anything in that vein, you can believe that I'll scream bloody murder...

My gamma monitoring station is up and running, and developing its baseline. I've got my ears perked up, for sure. I just hope that it stays boring watching the graphs.

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with Texas, they desire to be totally divorced from the grid. Also, maybe you know. is Rosie really "the Queen of (the) Corona"?

be well and have a good one

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Only if she was really old, and went a little further afield and hung around Shoreham when Wardenclyffe was a thing...

Seriously, I hadn't heard that one, and it is probably much more solar-physics driven. Fill me in!

On edit- if you are in the higher latitudes, the night of the 13th into the 14th may (emphasis on the *may*) be a good night for watching out for the Aurora Borealis. Pretty good coronal mass ejection from July 5, I think it was. Last prediction I saw was that they might be visible as far south as Casper, WY- which means that there's a decent chance we'll even be able to see 'em in Denver. Keep an eye on Spaceweather.com and https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/aurora-30-minute-forecast as the date gets closer.

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to deflect the solar flares?

disintegrating ozone does not
portend well in this instance

thanks for your insights

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The magnetosphere can deflect some of it, the atmosphere can diffuse some of it, but a really big flare could cause havoc, and a coronal mass ejection that bullseyed us would be a bad day all around. The chances of either are relatively small, but nonzero.

From that paper I linked previously, here are some historical occurrences:

Some significant GMD historic storms and their impacts include the following:

August 28–September 2, 1859 (known as the Carrington Event): One of the stronger storms recorded in the modern era, and one of the fastest moving, with only 17 hours in transit. Some telegraph systems were destroyed in Europe and North America.

November 18, 1882: A GMD event caused a compass deflection of nearly two degrees.

June 17, 1915: In the northeastern portion of North America, eastern-running telegraph lines were affected, allowing no transmissions. Northern-running lines were not affected.

May 13–15, 1921: Railroad switching and signaling systems in New York were damaged; telephone and telegraph systems were interrupted and/or damaged across the United States and Europe; and even undersea cables were damaged.

March 24, 1940: The Philadelphia Electric Company recorded strong reactive power swings and voltage surges throughout the electric grid. Telephone cables between Fargo, North Dakota, and Winnipeg, Canada, had wires fused together. More than 185,000 miles of telephone and telegraph lines were knocked out of service.

August 4, 1972: Solar astronomers reported three powerful solar flares. The next day, the Pioneer 9 spacecraft detected large solar waves. AT&T reported voltage surges; Bell reported service outages from Plano, Illinois, to Cascade, Iowa; and Canadian Overseas Telecommunications Corporation reported voltage surges that damaged equipment. Transoceanic communication cables also encountered problems.

March 13, 1989: Hydro-Quebec power grids located in Canada and supporting approximately six million customers lost power for more than nine hours. Throughout North America, there was an increased number of failed transformers in the following months.

October 29, 2003: This storm was one of the fastest moving solar storms, at only 19 hours in transit. The $450M Midori-2 research satellite was lost. South Africa experienced transformer damage and blackouts. Astronauts on the International Space Station reported radiation effects.

July 23, 2012: A storm, at least the size of the Carrington Event and approximately twice the magnitude of the 1989 event, missed the Earth’s path by one week. According to the National Academy of Sciences, the economic impact could have been in the trillions of dollars, and it would have taken years to recover from the damage.

This is another one of those things that we can't do much about, other than monitor it and shut down what we can ahead of time should it occur...

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Auroras are charged solar particles being pulled into our magnetic field. Large solar storms do affect our planet and grid.
An enormous solar storm could short out telecom satellites, radio communications, and power grids, leading to trillions of dollars in damages, experts say

An artist’s rendering of the solar wind interacting with the Earth’s magnetic field. Image via NASA

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@QMS

for a 6AU6 or somesuch.

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@enhydra lutris

if you ain't a Nuvistor, you're just hopelessly behind the times...

Pentodes are for people who just don't like the smell of melting Tolex, after all.

That reminds me: I lost at least two dozen 6L6s and EL34s in the house fire. Forgot to claim them on the insurance. Shee-it...

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500' elevation and about 9 miles for the bay. If it were visible, there's at least a 50% chance of fog or clouds 365 days of the year.

Goodbye Rosie, the queen of Corona, seeing me and Julio down by the schoolyard

Paul Simon

otherwise, either tower would work. Knew a kid in h.s. who built a 12 foot jacob's ladder, screwed up all kinds of reception for miles around.

be well and have a good one.

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45 miles from Shoreham as the crow flies, so Rosie could just possibly have drawn an arc that long... Just whisper some more sweet nothings into Nikola's ear.

It's funny, because Paul Simon never has said just exactly what it was, what the mama saw.

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for whatever reason, Harris is the nominee. She's female and she gets to check the "woman of color" box. She would lose, and the Republicans aren't running any rock stars. Based on his statements and policies I'd think Newsome not viable, but I'd have to see how he does on TV.

I've learned never to under rate someone just because I disagree with them on issues. You don't have to speak like Obama or Bill Clinton in fully formed compound sentences woven into paragraphs. Look at Bush. Reagan was very good and he didn't like to read.

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@ban nock

at what?
acting maybe
until he got to the biden
level
then

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@QMS @QMS people and working poor that the trickle down theory works. Lots of them believe it to this day. Honestly, giving corporations and the rich tax breaks somehow winds up in the bank accounts of the laborers? Maybe the slave laborers in India. Clinton loved him some NAFTA. He really liked trickle down.
Funny. When Democrats mention he had dementia, Republicans are incensed.
Now, we go through demented president parties split again. Democrats can't allow Republicans to question Biden's mental health.

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@on the cusp

somehow the mental health of the potus
is tied into the nations mental health as well

if the chattering class can not recognize
the lack of mental fitness of the ruling
class, it is a non-issue? strange that people
can't recognize the signs of failure

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@QMS this afternoon, making a joke of he and his brothers being able to hear "restlessness" because his parents' headboard bumped against the boys' bathroom wall.
Just what I need to hear from the most powerful man on earth. That his parents fucked.
The audience laughed.
I didn't.

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I rate candidates as to how entwined they are with the WEF.
Hope you enjoyed a July 4th celebration or just time away from work.

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@on the cusp Not sure what WEF is.

I rate them on how likely to be elected. That's different than my opinion of policy.

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@ban nock @ban nock @ban nock "You will own nothing, and be happy."
Read up on it. Surprised it has not come across your radar.

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