Where do dissidents go?

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So, Fox and Tucker Carlson have parted company. Upon mutual agreement apparently.
I'm not really surprised as Carlson has grated against the ideology of The Fox narrative for sometime now.
I could be wrong, but it seems like his base leans toward the Deplorables end of the spectrum. The same cohort boycotting InBev/Budweiser over the Trans ad campaign. Trump supporters.
But Carlson has a left wing following because of his anti-war and defense spending views.
He definitely has his finger on the poor and working-class American zeitgeist, and some of the dwindling middle class.
So where does he go now? Certainly not MSNBC or other state media. With the threat of the Restrict Act pending over all dissent, many, if not most far-flung corners of the inter-tubes will not be safe to speak or even hold a conflicting view of TPTB.
The Information Age is coming to a close. Where will we get our information from in the future?
Will garage printing presses become the new underground?
As long as there are tons of fliers, hand bills, and advertising "newspapers" stuffing my mailbox daily, there will always be printing equipment, ink, and paper to print on available.
Direct marketing will never go away.
Long ago I was a fan of Keith Oberman, until he was silenced. The same with Cenk Uygur/ Young Turks until he sold out for riches. And I wasn't a particular fan of Alex Jones or Don Lemmon. But I can see a definite pattern here.
Right, Left, or dead center, don't rock the boat, ever!
Orwell would be proud.
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mimi's picture

how about calling the party the "party of natural intelligencers". I am sure they beat up the party of artificial intelligencers in no time.

Harry Belafonte died. All the good guys die too fast.

Have you realized how many idiotic 'mimi' women are out there, way too many artificialLy dumbed down mimis.

My one and only favorite mimi

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Where we all go? To heaven, of course.

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mimi's picture

@mimi
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/04/24/chris-hedges-the-united-states-of-...

I ordered his new book, it is supposed to arrive here in four weeks.

Be nice to each other. We need that.

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earthling1's picture

@mimi
Haven't heard that one in years.
And we have a new party, called the Uniparty.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

TheOtherMaven's picture

@mimi

Then again, it's very nearly foolproof as long as the soprano has a decent voice. Biggrin

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

mimi's picture

@TheOtherMaven @TheOtherMaven
I never had heard or read about it. Actually it is imo a typical and rather sad thing when rivalry goes that far.

Thanks again.

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ggersh's picture

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2023/04/23/the-empire-of-hypocrisy-notes-fr...

Will the RESTRICT ACT pass on a Friday evening vote like all
the bipartisan shit does, for it is coming.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

earthling1's picture

@ggersh
Empire of Lies.
Americans will believe any lie, as long as it's blown softly in their ear.
Such putzes.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

they will go to federal prison for 5 years.
I do not see how an election with actual opposing candidates could take place without someone being charged with the crime of disseminating misinformation and fomenting civil unrest.
In fact, it will be dicey for debates on any future bills fraught with the possibility that criticizing an existing law, rule, or order, could jeopardize the debater.
This law has the potential of putting us in a prison of silence and acceptance so as to avoid a cage.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

The Liberal Moonbat's picture

@on the cusp Any chance of stopping it?

I saw an amazing array of websites from all over the political map lining up against it.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

@The Liberal Moonbat detailing the Act's content. What struck me about it was the way criminal activity, such as disseminating misinformation, could be construed as merely calling out a government policy as being unfair or unwise, or posting such criticism made by another on social media, just might be a crime. It could have such a chilling effect on not only dissent, but also criticism of the government, having a debate about government policy, or discussing someone else's debate, all of which could land you in jail.
Surveillance of all things internet will bring an end to a lot of sites and even channels, so the Information Age will come to a screeching halt.
It has bipartisan support, and iirc, Biden has indicated he will sign it.
I think the French woman who called Macron a bad name, and who is now facing prison, made our government jealous.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

The Liberal Moonbat's picture

@on the cusp Someone should be able to call 1st Amendment on it, shouldn't they?

As is, the USAPATRIOT ACT and the TSA are already blatant 4th Amendment violations yet are still there, but at least now there ought to be a silver lining to a thoroughly politicized Supreme Court that might well be willing to strike down any law passed by The Other Team.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

The Liberal Moonbat's picture

...they've forgotten whose boat it really is, and it's long-past time to shove the truth of the matter down their throats.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

Cassiodorus's picture

by the "suck up to Fox News execs" thing he was required to do to keep his show.

That one came and went. Has he found a news outlet yet?

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“The loyal Left cannot act decisively. Their devotion to the system is a built-in kill switch limiting dissent.” - Richard Moser

@Cassiodorus would want to hook up w another big corp with their big restraints on content. He should go indy podcast and he could probably take 1-2m of his current audience for starters. Or he could hook up with the light-touch Spotify as Joe Rogan did, probably for a huge payday. He already has a substantial inheritance from Daddy, so no financial worries wherever he lands.

I suspect his audience is younger (than the typical >65 Fox audience) and primarily Libertarian type Rs, Indies of a traditional conservative/America First nature, and harder Right types with only one foot in MAGALand. Maybe some younger indy Ds too.

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earthling1's picture

@wokkamile
Multiple indy sites to go to but dragging along supporters is questionable.
Since Parlor, Jones, was silenced not many Deplorables trust the online communities to remain true or trustworthy nor to even exist in the near future.
I am finding this out on my own sites that I frequent often. Suddenly they are no longer there. Andre Vitchek (passed away), The Saker, even b of Moon of Alabama took a break offline recently.
It's going to get worse long before it gets better. The Restrict Act is just a shot across the bow. Just wait for full implementation of the CBDC. Game set match.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

@earthling1 viewers are online, the cables tend to get mostly seniors these days and their stale and predictable format is dying along with their viewers. If Glenn Beck, Rogan and that blonde woman formerly w Fox and NBC (name??) can go indy with their own podcasts and do so successfully, so can Tucker.

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Pluto's Republic's picture

@earthling1

Andre Vitchek (passed away)

Was poisoned, I believe.

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earthling1's picture

@humphrey
are so much more militant than us American Surrender Monkeys.
I'm gonna catch hell for that remark as it reverses the WWII narrative of the French.
LOL

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

enhydra lutris's picture

supposed to be a reply to humphry

especially at Yorktown.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Cassiodorus's picture

@earthling1 @earthling1 the French armies mutinied. The armies would defend but refused to attack. The man who restored order after the mutinies was Phillippe Petain, who was later the collaborationist dictator of part of France during the Nazi occupation. Petain was later sentenced to life in prison for his role as a collaborator.

The French are only willing to put up with so much.

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“The loyal Left cannot act decisively. Their devotion to the system is a built-in kill switch limiting dissent.” - Richard Moser

enhydra lutris's picture

This has always been the reaction of this nation, since even before it was a nation. The members of Congress re allowed to say anything they want, in Congress, without fear of arrest - that is in the Constitution, and it was put there for a reason. The rest of us may dissent as much ass we see fit, from within the confines of a jail or prison cell, but that's about it.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

earthling1's picture

@enhydra lutris
was Brazil. Although in a gated condo.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

it was TC's opening monologue on 4-19, where he blasted the union of Big Pharma and the MSM on covid vaccines that spelled the end for him at Fox, Rupert Murdoch getting the call from the head of Pfizer/Moderna. Sounds about right.

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@wokkamile
have the same bosses.

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The Liberal Moonbat's picture

@earthling1 ...for both sides.

"If we could only find out who's in charge, we could kill him."

― George Carlin

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

earthling1's picture

it's 75th Anniversary of existence.
Does this mean America can stop supporting them with taxpayer dollars and military protection?
Shouldn't they be able to stand on their own two feet after 75 years?
If not, maybe it's a failed experiment at statehood.
If so, then we are being used and abused.
Cue the anti-semitism accusations in 3-2-1.

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snoopydawg's picture

@earthling1

that anyone who is critical of them is being an anti semitism. This is long overdue. I’m not anti Israel, but I am an anti Zionist.

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt

that Tucker was so interested in UFOs, and believes the evidence is there for current visitation. At the 1h09m mark:

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earthling1's picture

@wokkamile
But I believe the Drake equation is valid.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.