"Please check your assumptions at the door" ;-), but fear that it would be misunderstood. More than one song from the days of your includes an admonition to "check your razors at the door", which is the inspiration from which the above idea sprung, but in this case I would suggest that we all carry Occam's razor at the ready. It is a characteristic of all universes in which there is a scarcity of verities, certain data, and total information, that unidentified assumptions pop up to fill in thee gaps. This is unavoidable, but it behooves each of us to be aware of them.
be well and have a good one
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"So SARS-CoV-2 is indeed man-made, along with the entire infrastructure of 'testing for cases' and 'vaccines to fix the problem' - concocted by unscrupulous predators who thought nothing of terrorizing the whole world in order to profit from the crisis they made and to control people's lives down to their thoughts and daily behaviors."
A study published February 21, 2022, in Frontiers in Virology claims to have discovered that a sequence of the virus’ spike protein is a 100% match to a modified messenger RNA (mmRNA) sequence patented by Moderna in 2016
The genetic sequence patented by Moderna is part of a human DNA repair gene called MSH3. This patented sequence is found in SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site in the spike protein — the part that gives the virus such easy access into human cells
According to Moderna’s patent application, the gene sequence was modified “for the production of oncology-related proteins and peptides,” ostensibly for use in cancer research
According to the researchers, the chance that SARS-CoV-2 would have randomly acquired this furin cleavage site through natural evolution is 1 in 3 trillion
In a February 24, 2022, interview, Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel proposed the COVID-19 pandemic may have been the result of a lab leak
... "What are the chances of a naturally-occurring virus having a rarely encountered furin cleavage site that is genetically identical to an engineered and patented one?"
...
...in 1918 had such a cleavage. But I could be mistaken.
"What are the chances of a naturally-occurring virus having a rarely encountered furin cleavage site that is genetically identical to an engineered and patented one?"
that showed that there was a very high probability that SARS-C0V-2 is a man-made pathogen.
"So SARS-CoV-2 is indeed man-made, along with the entire infrastructure of 'testing for cases' and 'vaccines to fix the problem' - concocted by unscrupulous predators who thought nothing of terrorizing the whole world in order to profit from the crisis they made and to control people's lives down to their thoughts and daily behaviors."
A study published February 21, 2022, in Frontiers in Virology claims to have discovered that a sequence of the virus’ spike protein is a 100% match to a modified messenger RNA (mmRNA) sequence patented by Moderna in 2016
The genetic sequence patented by Moderna is part of a human DNA repair gene called MSH3. This patented sequence is found in SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site in the spike protein — the part that gives the virus such easy access into human cells
According to Moderna’s patent application, the gene sequence was modified “for the production of oncology-related proteins and peptides,” ostensibly for use in cancer research
According to the researchers, the chance that SARS-CoV-2 would have randomly acquired this furin cleavage site through natural evolution is 1 in 3 trillion
In a February 24, 2022, interview, Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel proposed the COVID-19 pandemic may have been the result of a lab leak
... "What are the chances of a naturally-occurring virus having a rarely encountered furin cleavage site that is genetically identical to an engineered and patented one?"
...
It was written in January but I saw the photos in it a few years ago in one of the many articles I was reading. IIRC there is a huge lab in Iraq that we built after our invasion and during Obama’s tenure. We have labs like this in so many countries I doubt anyone even knows how many we have.
Nice…
The DTRA activities in Georgia and Ukraine fall under the protection of special bilateral agreements. According to these agreements, Georgia and Ukraine shall hold harmless, bring no legal proceedings and indemnify the United States and its personnel, contractors and contractors’ personnel, for damage to property, or death or injury to any persons in Georgia and Ukraine, arising out of activities under this Agreement. If DTRA-sponsored scientists cause deaths or injuries to the local population they cannot be held to account.
...in 1918 had such a cleavage. But I could be mistaken.
"What are the chances of a naturally-occurring virus having a rarely encountered furin cleavage site that is genetically identical to an engineered and patented one?"
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...Arms Watch. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is an amazing investigator. She has so much information and documentation about these US-owned horror-movie bio-labs just beyond Russia's borders.
I think people are now more conversant about the type of research and experimentation that is done there. She's way ahead of the pack.
It was written in January but I saw the photos in it a few years ago in one of the many articles I was reading. IIRC there is a huge lab in Iraq that we built after our invasion and during Obama’s tenure. We have labs like this in so many countries I doubt anyone even knows how many we have.
Nice…
The DTRA activities in Georgia and Ukraine fall under the protection of special bilateral agreements. According to these agreements, Georgia and Ukraine shall hold harmless, bring no legal proceedings and indemnify the United States and its personnel, contractors and contractors’ personnel, for damage to property, or death or injury to any persons in Georgia and Ukraine, arising out of activities under this Agreement. If DTRA-sponsored scientists cause deaths or injuries to the local population they cannot be held to account.
@Pluto's Republic
that have a furin cleavage site on their envelope - HIV, influenza, dengue fever, ebola and marburg virus as well as the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 for them to become fully functional and enter a cell. The original SARS-CoV did not have this site which made it less infectious. The closest genetic backbone to SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus which does not have this cleavage site. Researchers have thus far found no intermediate hosts in the wild.
But we now have a patent issued for the very genetic sequence of this cleavage site.
...in 1918 had such a cleavage. But I could be mistaken.
"What are the chances of a naturally-occurring virus having a rarely encountered furin cleavage site that is genetically identical to an engineered and patented one?"
The closest genetic backbone to SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus which does not have this cleavage site.
At least I don't recall doing so.
How do you suppose Americas's White Tail deer herd throughout the US spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus before people became sick with it? Any thoughts on that?
#2.1
that have a furin cleavage site on their envelope - HIV, influenza, dengue fever, ebola and marburg virus as well as the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 for them to become fully functional and enter a cell. The original SARS-CoV did not have this site which made it less infectious. The closest genetic backbone to SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus which does not have this cleavage site. Researchers have thus far found no intermediate hosts in the wild.
But we now have a patent issued for the very genetic sequence of this cleavage site.
@Pluto's Republic
Everything nowadays is source.
EL is correct about leaving assumptions at the door, except, the BIG ASSUMPTION is whether any of us trust and reliably assume our original sources are correct.
I tend to go with non-MSM, and look for the sources that lose $ for speaking out.
The closest genetic backbone to SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus which does not have this cleavage site.
At least I don't recall doing so.
How do you suppose Americas's White Tail deer herd throughout the US spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus before people became sick with it? Any thoughts on that?
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#2.1.2.1 Everything nowadays is source.
EL is correct about leaving assumptions at the door, except, the BIG ASSUMPTION is whether any of us trust and reliably assume our original sources are correct.
I tend to go with non-MSM, and look for the sources that lose $ for speaking out.
They collected blood samples from the national white tail herd pre and post pandemic. Scientists go back in to test thousands of samples for antibodies, finds out they were infected with Covid-19 as early as January 2020.
You should be able to Google it. The news appeared in a couple of science magazines, including Nature.
The closest genetic backbone to SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus which does not have this cleavage site.
At least I don't recall doing so.
How do you suppose Americas's White Tail deer herd throughout the US spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus before people became sick with it? Any thoughts on that?
the article in virology says that a the furin cleavage sequence is identical to a "reverse match" to the patented sequence, meaning it is a mirror or backwards copy.
Also, the probability info is of limited relevance without computations of the same probabilities for the full furin cleavage sites of all of the other viruses that have them.
The article calls for further study, and I agree,, it is definitely weird, but clarity requires that I point out that the match is reversed:
A BLAST search for the 12-nucleotide insertion led us to a 100% reverse match in a proprietary sequence (SEQ ID11652, nt 2751-2733) found in the US patent 9,587,003 filed on Feb. 4, 2016 (10) (Figure 1). Examination of SEQ ID11652 revealed that the match extends beyond the 12-nucleotide insertion to a 19-nucleotide sequence: 5′-CTACGTGCCCGCCGAGGAG-3′ (nt 2733-2751 of SEQ ID11652), such that the resulting mRNA would have 3′- GAUGCACGGGCGGCUCCUC-5′, or equivalently 5′- CU CCU CGG CGG GCA CGU AG-3′ (nucleotides 23547-23565 in the SARS-CoV-2 genome, in which the four bold codons yield PRRA, amino acids 681–684 of its spike protein). This is very rare in the NCBI BLAST database.
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The correlation between this SARS-CoV-2 sequence and the reverse complement of a proprietary mRNA sequence is of uncertain origin. Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11 (Figure 2).
[The presence of any specific 19 nucleotide sequence in any specific 30,000 nucleotide genome is likely to be blindingly remote simply because of the numbers involved.]
Not saying the findings aren't extremely supportive of lab leak or similar hypotheses, merely that the summary in the mercola article misrepresents the actual findings, it is not a 100% match, and that the relevance of the probability date without some comparables is questionable.
be well and have a good one
that showed that there was a very high probability that SARS-C0V-2 is a man-made pathogen.
"So SARS-CoV-2 is indeed man-made, along with the entire infrastructure of 'testing for cases' and 'vaccines to fix the problem' - concocted by unscrupulous predators who thought nothing of terrorizing the whole world in order to profit from the crisis they made and to control people's lives down to their thoughts and daily behaviors."
A study published February 21, 2022, in Frontiers in Virology claims to have discovered that a sequence of the virus’ spike protein is a 100% match to a modified messenger RNA (mmRNA) sequence patented by Moderna in 2016
The genetic sequence patented by Moderna is part of a human DNA repair gene called MSH3. This patented sequence is found in SARS-CoV-2’s furin cleavage site in the spike protein — the part that gives the virus such easy access into human cells
According to Moderna’s patent application, the gene sequence was modified “for the production of oncology-related proteins and peptides,” ostensibly for use in cancer research
According to the researchers, the chance that SARS-CoV-2 would have randomly acquired this furin cleavage site through natural evolution is 1 in 3 trillion
In a February 24, 2022, interview, Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel proposed the COVID-19 pandemic may have been the result of a lab leak
... "What are the chances of a naturally-occurring virus having a rarely encountered furin cleavage site that is genetically identical to an engineered and patented one?"
...
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"It is a characteristic of all universes in which there is a scarcity of verities, certain data, and total information, that unidentified assumptions pop up to fill in thee gaps. This is unavoidable, but it behooves each of us to be aware of them."
There continues to be a total lack of balance in the "conversation" on The Dose regarding "all things Covid". The awareness you seek left the station a long time ago along with those who had hoped to be part of that "gentle" conversation and provide information to counter all those "unidentifed assumptions".
Maybe in another universe......
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@Fishtroller 02
opposing views in The Dose constantly. You are often involved. It doesn't feel at all one sided. It is absolutely not an echo chamber. You wouldn't comment in it if it were.
"It is a characteristic of all universes in which there is a scarcity of verities, certain data, and total information, that unidentified assumptions pop up to fill in thee gaps. This is unavoidable, but it behooves each of us to be aware of them."
There continues to be a total lack of balance in the "conversation" on The Dose regarding "all things Covid". The awareness you seek left the station a long time ago along with those who had hoped to be part of that "gentle" conversation and provide information to counter all those "unidentifed assumptions".
Maybe in another universe......
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Just look at what happened at my most recent post. I posted a link to a good article from the NYT and was laughed at for using NYT as a source. No response to the actual information. Just a dismissal of my using it.
#5 opposing views in The Dose constantly. You are often involved. It doesn't feel at all one sided. It is absolutely not an echo chamber. You wouldn't comment in it if it were.
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@Fishtroller 02
The paper that was wrong on WMDs, that fired Hedges, the one that works with (for?) the CIA...
I do get the impression that you consider vax hesitant people to be idiots. I hope I am wrong.
To each his own. I am not attempting to change your mind or attitude. Nobody here is. We give you food for thought, vice versa, and you are welcome to post what you want, as long as it is not pointedly rude.
Just look at what happened at my most recent post. I posted a link to a good article from the NYT and was laughed at for using NYT as a source. No response to the actual information. Just a dismissal of my using it.
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we are supposed to accept this kind of suppository of *unidentified assumptions*
being somehow supportive of your train of logic? Get real. There are certain known
fabrics in this argument, which some choose to see, without being denigrated by
others who, for whatever reason, choose to ignore. I recommend you try to open
your mind to others that are trying to understand this quandary. Without negative
connotations. We can argue acceptance of facts, but denying others the right to
question is absurd. Your argument is lost.
"It is a characteristic of all universes in which there is a scarcity of verities, certain data, and total information, that unidentified assumptions pop up to fill in thee gaps. This is unavoidable, but it behooves each of us to be aware of them."
There continues to be a total lack of balance in the "conversation" on The Dose regarding "all things Covid". The awareness you seek left the station a long time ago along with those who had hoped to be part of that "gentle" conversation and provide information to counter all those "unidentifed assumptions".
He is the one who brought it up. My observations about the months of discourse on The Dose are valid. Have you noticed how many times people have just thrown up their hands and walked out because their posts question the gish gallop of "information" on here? Any comment outside the narrative that Covid vaccines are killing us all or Ivermectin is a good treatment gets bombarded with replies that let the commenter know this is not a discussion. Just who is denying others the right to question?
we are supposed to accept this kind of suppository of *unidentified assumptions*
being somehow supportive of your train of logic? Get real. There are certain known
fabrics in this argument, which some choose to see, without being denigrated by
others who, for whatever reason, choose to ignore. I recommend you try to open
your mind to others that are trying to understand this quandary. Without negative
connotations. We can argue acceptance of facts, but denying others the right to
question is absurd. Your argument is lost.
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Ivermectin is a good treatment gets bombarded with replies that let the commenter know this is not a discussion. Just who is denying others the right to question?
There are over 70 peer reviewed studies now that shows that it is effective if given early in the process. The most recent study that said it doesn’t work was because they waited too long to give it. But the anti ivermectin folks jumped all over it and told us that we have been wrong all along. But they fled instead of debating the many studies. Strange. I would think people would be happy to find something that could keep them above ground, but sadly they aren’t.
As for asking you it’s probably because of what you wrote.
He is the one who brought it up. My observations about the months of discourse on The Dose are valid. Have you noticed how many times people have just thrown up their hands and walked out because their posts question the gish gallop of "information" on here? Any comment outside the narrative that Covid vaccines are killing us all or Ivermectin is a good treatment gets bombarded with replies that let the commenter know this is not a discussion. Just who is denying others the right to question?
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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
A guy who originally sang its praises and was going to tell the world that it indeed did work and could save lives went back on his studies after getting money from the Gates foundation. He’s on video talking about his betrayal and knowing that it would cost thousands of lives. Or don’t watch it and continue to believe it doesn’t work because of fraudulent studies. It’s up to you to decide what you want to believe. This is a smoking gun showing that ivermectin was killed so by governments big pharma could push the mRNA shots and now their horrible anti virals that don’t work. It’s why the anti ivermectin comments are met with so much disdain. The truth is there for people with open minds to see.
It starts about 1/2 way through the video. Many people have posted the information in previous doses. Maybe you just missed them?
He is the one who brought it up. My observations about the months of discourse on The Dose are valid. Have you noticed how many times people have just thrown up their hands and walked out because their posts question the gish gallop of "information" on here? Any comment outside the narrative that Covid vaccines are killing us all or Ivermectin is a good treatment gets bombarded with replies that let the commenter know this is not a discussion. Just who is denying others the right to question?
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@snoopydawg
written by the science staff because all NYT articles apparently should be shunned completely now.
Yet, nothing is said when you or others post videos from "Bitchute". Have you really investigated Bitchute? I have. Bitchute was analyzed for its content and a report was written and posted on a Cornell University sponsored website. Here...https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.01984. The ADL did an analysis of the content of Bitchute and wrote this....https://www.adl.org/blog/bitchute-a-hotbed-of-hate. And here is the Wikipedia written history of the owner of this site, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute There is at least enough of this that if read, should give someone pause about using it as a source.
For months I have watched people, who maybe in all good faith, made their arguments for Ivermectin and a whole host of other things based on sites like these. And almost every time, I followed up, I found these types of sites to be either up front or behind the scenes purveyors of propaganda and false information. I tried to being this up and warn people here about them, but the push back was so strong it was a useless waste of my time. Plus, any negative reviews of Ivermectin that I tried to share were immediately dismissed, and sometimes with not so hidden hostility.
In fact, I just recently saw an article written by a doctor on staff in a hospital who observed many people who took Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine at home landing in the hospital ER with more advanced cases of Covid because they waited too long to get help.
I take many supplements to avoid pharmaceuticals, and I have done so for years. That has trained me to be very thorough in making healthy choices. I put Ivermectin on my research list and found far more negatives than positives about it, and way too many possible side effects. You keep saying that I am just stubbornly ignoring some kind of truth about Ivermectin instead of "keeping an open mind". An open mind to you is one who just accepts your take on things, including all the conspiracy stuff.
We can go around and around on this. I don't care what you post on Ivermectin or anything else or if you take the stuff. What I used to care about here and on other sites is being able to post what I have found without being subjected to bombardment of long badly sourced "information" posts and talked about in comment threads as if I'm not in the room.
I used to really enjoy your political commentary and actually agreed with much of what you wrote.
A guy who originally sang its praises and was going to tell the world that it indeed did work and could save lives went back on his studies after getting money from the Gates foundation. He’s on video talking about his betrayal and knowing that it would cost thousands of lives. Or don’t watch it and continue to believe it doesn’t work because of fraudulent studies. It’s up to you to decide what you want to believe. This is a smoking gun showing that ivermectin was killed so by governments big pharma could push the mRNA shots and now their horrible anti virals that don’t work. It’s why the anti ivermectin comments are met with so much disdain. The truth is there for people with open minds to see.
It starts about 1/2 way through the video. Many people have posted the information in previous doses. Maybe you just missed them?
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in virtually all aspects of the pandemic.
For every scientist and peer reviewed study, there are experts and peer reviewed studies that say something different, and often say the opposite.
We will know a lot more in 5 or 6 months when Pfizer releases all the information on their clinical trials.
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I keep contemplating adding some things to the
pro forma header above, things like
"Please check your assumptions at the door" ;-), but fear that it would be misunderstood. More than one song from the days of your includes an admonition to "check your razors at the door", which is the inspiration from which the above idea sprung, but in this case I would suggest that we all carry Occam's razor at the ready. It is a characteristic of all universes in which there is a scarcity of verities, certain data, and total information, that unidentified assumptions pop up to fill in thee gaps. This is unavoidable, but it behooves each of us to be aware of them.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Additional support to my diary in C99
that showed that there was a very high probability that SARS-C0V-2 is a man-made pathogen.
You can review it here:
New evidence coming to light:
I recall that the virus that caused the Spanish Flu
...in 1918 had such a cleavage. But I could be mistaken.
Here’s the link
https://armswatch.com/documents-expose-us-biological-experiments-on-alli...
It was written in January but I saw the photos in it a few years ago in one of the many articles I was reading. IIRC there is a huge lab in Iraq that we built after our invasion and during Obama’s tenure. We have labs like this in so many countries I doubt anyone even knows how many we have.
Nice…
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
I'm delighted to see people referencing
...Arms Watch. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is an amazing investigator. She has so much information and documentation about these US-owned horror-movie bio-labs just beyond Russia's borders.
I think people are now more conversant about the type of research and experimentation that is done there. She's way ahead of the pack.
http://dilyana.bg/
There are a lot of viruses
that have a furin cleavage site on their envelope - HIV, influenza, dengue fever, ebola and marburg virus as well as the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 for them to become fully functional and enter a cell. The original SARS-CoV did not have this site which made it less infectious. The closest genetic backbone to SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus which does not have this cleavage site. Researchers have thus far found no intermediate hosts in the wild.
But we now have a patent issued for the very genetic sequence of this cleavage site.
I've never read about this:
At least I don't recall doing so.
How do you suppose Americas's White Tail deer herd throughout the US spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus before people became sick with it? Any thoughts on that?
What source said that?
Everything nowadays is source.
EL is correct about leaving assumptions at the door, except, the BIG ASSUMPTION is whether any of us trust and reliably assume our original sources are correct.
I tend to go with non-MSM, and look for the sources that lose $ for speaking out.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
This is from the US government.
Federal agency that monitors wildlife USDA
They collected blood samples from the national white tail herd pre and post pandemic. Scientists go back in to test thousands of samples for antibodies, finds out they were infected with Covid-19 as early as January 2020.
You should be able to Google it. The news appeared in a couple of science magazines, including Nature.
Here's an article from Smithsonian:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/coronavirus-antibodies-detecte...
There are also records at the USDA.
[Edit=links added]
Peter Daszak, Furin Cleavage Site, Wuhan Institute of Virology,
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L--oyC-UYfM]
Good morning CB sorry I'm a day late but
the article in virology says that a the furin cleavage sequence is identical to a "reverse match" to the patented sequence, meaning it is a mirror or backwards copy.
Also, the probability info is of limited relevance without computations of the same probabilities for the full furin cleavage sites of all of the other viruses that have them.
The article calls for further study, and I agree,, it is definitely weird, but clarity requires that I point out that the match is reversed:
...
[The presence of any specific 19 nucleotide sequence in any specific 30,000 nucleotide genome is likely to be blindingly remote simply because of the numbers involved.]
quotes from: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full ---
MSH3 Homology and Potential Recombination Link to SARS-CoV-2 Furin Cleavage Site
Not saying the findings aren't extremely supportive of lab leak or similar hypotheses, merely that the summary in the mercola article misrepresents the actual findings, it is not a 100% match, and that the relevance of the probability date without some comparables is questionable.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Wuhan Lab in China
Bio-Weapon Labs in Ukraine near Russia
Are there any dots to be connected? Just asking for a friend.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1TisjALpow&t=81s]
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
The dots have been connected for you
...by the beautiful and courageous investigative journalist known as Dilyana,
who visits them in person and locates the evidence and documentation you need to see.
Arms Watch
Governor DeSantis hosts a roundtable
with physicians nationwide on ending COVID theater once and for all.
[video:https://youtu.be/iulvEmAmtcQ?t=651]
Nice try, EL...
"It is a characteristic of all universes in which there is a scarcity of verities, certain data, and total information, that unidentified assumptions pop up to fill in thee gaps. This is unavoidable, but it behooves each of us to be aware of them."
There continues to be a total lack of balance in the "conversation" on The Dose regarding "all things Covid". The awareness you seek left the station a long time ago along with those who had hoped to be part of that "gentle" conversation and provide information to counter all those "unidentifed assumptions".
Maybe in another universe......
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I read really interesting debates between
opposing views in The Dose constantly. You are often involved. It doesn't feel at all one sided. It is absolutely not an echo chamber. You wouldn't comment in it if it were.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Please don't try to kid me.
Just look at what happened at my most recent post. I posted a link to a good article from the NYT and was laughed at for using NYT as a source. No response to the actual information. Just a dismissal of my using it.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
I laughed at NYT as a good source.
The paper that was wrong on WMDs, that fired Hedges, the one that works with (for?) the CIA...
I do get the impression that you consider vax hesitant people to be idiots. I hope I am wrong.
To each his own. I am not attempting to change your mind or attitude. Nobody here is. We give you food for thought, vice versa, and you are welcome to post what you want, as long as it is not pointedly rude.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
and what universe supports your assumptions?
we are supposed to accept this kind of suppository of *unidentified assumptions*
being somehow supportive of your train of logic? Get real. There are certain known
fabrics in this argument, which some choose to see, without being denigrated by
others who, for whatever reason, choose to ignore. I recommend you try to open
your mind to others that are trying to understand this quandary. Without negative
connotations. We can argue acceptance of facts, but denying others the right to
question is absurd. Your argument is lost.
question everything
You should be asking enhydra lutris this question.
He is the one who brought it up. My observations about the months of discourse on The Dose are valid. Have you noticed how many times people have just thrown up their hands and walked out because their posts question the gish gallop of "information" on here? Any comment outside the narrative that Covid vaccines are killing us all or Ivermectin is a good treatment gets bombarded with replies that let the commenter know this is not a discussion. Just who is denying others the right to question?
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Probably because you just ignore the data that has proven
that it does work.
There are over 70 peer reviewed studies now that shows that it is effective if given early in the process. The most recent study that said it doesn’t work was because they waited too long to give it. But the anti ivermectin folks jumped all over it and told us that we have been wrong all along. But they fled instead of debating the many studies. Strange. I would think people would be happy to find something that could keep them above ground, but sadly they aren’t.
As for asking you it’s probably because of what you wrote.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
If you want to see how ivermectin was killed
Watch this video
https://www.bitchute.com/video/xAhg4fdJVu8b/
A guy who originally sang its praises and was going to tell the world that it indeed did work and could save lives went back on his studies after getting money from the Gates foundation. He’s on video talking about his betrayal and knowing that it would cost thousands of lives. Or don’t watch it and continue to believe it doesn’t work because of fraudulent studies. It’s up to you to decide what you want to believe. This is a smoking gun showing that ivermectin was killed so by governments big pharma could push the mRNA shots and now their horrible anti virals that don’t work. It’s why the anti ivermectin comments are met with so much disdain. The truth is there for people with open minds to see.
It starts about 1/2 way through the video. Many people have posted the information in previous doses. Maybe you just missed them?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
On the cusp dismissed an article I posted on the NYT
written by the science staff because all NYT articles apparently should be shunned completely now.
Yet, nothing is said when you or others post videos from "Bitchute". Have you really investigated Bitchute? I have. Bitchute was analyzed for its content and a report was written and posted on a Cornell University sponsored website. Here...https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.01984. The ADL did an analysis of the content of Bitchute and wrote this....https://www.adl.org/blog/bitchute-a-hotbed-of-hate. And here is the Wikipedia written history of the owner of this site, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitChute There is at least enough of this that if read, should give someone pause about using it as a source.
For months I have watched people, who maybe in all good faith, made their arguments for Ivermectin and a whole host of other things based on sites like these. And almost every time, I followed up, I found these types of sites to be either up front or behind the scenes purveyors of propaganda and false information. I tried to being this up and warn people here about them, but the push back was so strong it was a useless waste of my time. Plus, any negative reviews of Ivermectin that I tried to share were immediately dismissed, and sometimes with not so hidden hostility.
In fact, I just recently saw an article written by a doctor on staff in a hospital who observed many people who took Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine at home landing in the hospital ER with more advanced cases of Covid because they waited too long to get help.
I take many supplements to avoid pharmaceuticals, and I have done so for years. That has trained me to be very thorough in making healthy choices. I put Ivermectin on my research list and found far more negatives than positives about it, and way too many possible side effects. You keep saying that I am just stubbornly ignoring some kind of truth about Ivermectin instead of "keeping an open mind". An open mind to you is one who just accepts your take on things, including all the conspiracy stuff.
We can go around and around on this. I don't care what you post on Ivermectin or anything else or if you take the stuff. What I used to care about here and on other sites is being able to post what I have found without being subjected to bombardment of long badly sourced "information" posts and talked about in comment threads as if I'm not in the room.
I used to really enjoy your political commentary and actually agreed with much of what you wrote.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
There is a lack of total information
in virtually all aspects of the pandemic.
For every scientist and peer reviewed study, there are experts and peer reviewed studies that say something different, and often say the opposite.
We will know a lot more in 5 or 6 months when Pfizer releases all the information on their clinical trials.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981