What does one even call this? Russophobia? Or jingoism?
Polls show that anti-Russia sentiments are at their highest levels since 1983, during the Cold War.
Respondents were generally negative on Russia in spite of party affiliations. But it was slightly less for Republicans at 78% compared to 86% for Democrats, and 81% for independents.
So is this McCarthyism?
This is the case of Valery Gergiev, who was sacked by the Munich Philharmonic Orchestra this week for failing to condemn Putin. Mr Gergiev was literally given an ultimatum. As the Guardian’s headline put it: ‘Denounce Putin or lose your job: Russian conductor Valery Gergiev given public ultimatum.’Gergiev refused to denounce Putin and so he lost his job. His management team dumped him too, while acknowledging that he is ‘the greatest conductor alive and an extraordinary human being with a profound sense of decency’. And yet he likes Putin, and refuses to distance himself from Putin even following his criminal invasion of Ukraine, and thus he must be expelled from the world of classical music.
The UK tour of the Russian State Ballet of Siberia has been axed, as if pirouettes were propaganda, as if sublime dancing by Russian people might pollute the hearts and minds of British audiences. Some UK venues have cancelled performances by the Russian State Opera, even though ‘Russian State Opera’ is just a ‘brand name’ – it is in fact part of a UK company that brings together graduates of arts institutions in Russia and former Soviet countries.
The Glasgow Film Festival has withdrawn two Russian films from its 2022 programme. This is especially crazy, given that the director of one of the blacklisted movies, Lado Kvataniya, has denounced the war in Ukraine. So if you refuse to denounce Putin you lose your job, but if you denounce him you might still lose out. Glasgow Film Festival, what is the crime committed by these filmmakers? Being Russian?Russia has been booted out of this year’s Eurovision. The Royal Opera House has abandoned plans to host the Bolshoi Ballet. Warner Bros, Disney and Sony have postponed film releases in Russia. Quite how depriving ordinary Russians of The Batman will help the people of Ukraine is anyone’s guess.
... The International Hockey Federation has banned Russia from taking part in the forthcoming Women’s Junior World Cup. Preventing teenage Russian girls from playing sport?
It appears that the UK is even outdoing the U.S. for a change.
Last Thursday, Conservative MP Tom Tugendhat, chair of the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Select Committee, called on the UK government to ‘expel Russian citizens, all of them’ to ‘defend our interests, to defend the British people, and to defend our international partners’.Echoing his colleague’s inflammatory rhetoric, Conservative MP Roger Gale took to the airwaves this week to say that all Russians should be expelled from the UK. ‘We should… send everybody home’, he told talkRADIO.
However, this takes the cake.
First it was the soccer governing body FIFA, the annual soccer tournament UEFA and the International Skating Union banning Russian athletes and teams from all events. Then the International Paralympic Committee barred Russian and Belarusian athletes from competing in the upcoming Winter Paralympics.Now, cats from Russia can't compete in any international competition, the Federation Internationale Feline announced.
In a statement posted on its website, FIFe said any cat bred in Russia cannot be imported or registered in its pedigree book outside the country. Not only that, but any cat belonging to exhibitors living in Russia cannot enter any FIFe show outside the country, no matter where they were registered.
That'll show Putin who's boss!
Or maybe we should demand that the cats denounce Putin as well?
Here's an interesting side-note about the origins of the word jingoism.
The very word “jingoism” comes from an anti-Russian song sung in British music halls during the Russo-Turkish war of 1877-78:“We don’t want to fight but by Jingo if we do
We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, we’ve got the money too
We’ve fought the Bear before, and while we’re Britons true
The Russians shall not have Constantinople!”
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Do I smell Freedom Fries?
They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore
We'll have to rename some drinks
What's a good name for a Black Russian?
Or vodka?
How about name change for Black Russian Terriers?
Better do it quickly
Everything and everyone connected to Russia is getting canceled. Seems that this type of behavior is another historical repeat of what happened in Germany way back when to Jews and other undesirables. The world has gone even more insane than it was a week ago.
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/03/ban-on-russian-cats/
It’s not just Russian cats. Russian hockey players are getting death threats and being told to go back to their country. Abhorrent behavior by people who should know better! All the while they are throwing their support to actual Nazis! Go figure.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Oh look
Article 33: Individual responsibility, collective penalties, pillage and reprisals. “No protected person may be punished for any offense he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.
— Fourth Geneva Convention
Maybe some more people will find this article and start remembering that we are supposed to be a nation of laws. I’m not going to hold my breath, but if more people were aware of it…?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Gorgeous dogs!
NYCVG
Is this not exactly what the Nazi's did to the Jews?
And who will pay the price, Russians, Ukrainians, Americans and the rest of the people of the world. This is about the survival of humanity
Who benefits from this Great Reset and hatred of everything Russian. The elites, MIC.
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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Nah, this is more stupid
Come on. Banning cats?
The real problem is that we are relying on Putin to be the sane one, in order to keep us out of WWIII. That's not a good position to be in.
Putin is a lot more sane than
the war mongers in the US. At least he is trying to minimize civilian death by not bombing the shit out out of cities like her Heinousness promoted when she was in power.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y]
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Where will it stop?
Actually I think they expected trouble re the athletes,
but thought it would be limited to matters governed by the IOC (International Olympic Committee). Perhaps they thought they still had friends on the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), which has been mitigating penalties imposed by the IOC since 2018.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Actually I agree with CB, Putin appears to be the sane one
And that's how bad amerika's leadership has fallen. TPTB aren't the sharpest tool in the shed.
From Trump to Joementia, to Kopmala being 2nd in line and Pelies'si being 3rd. Yep Putin is the sane one.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
I don't understand a word ...
What is that cat business all about ? Are these real animal cats? If yes why do they get banned and from what?-
It's really shitty to read here if the whole conversation among you seems to be coded language.
This may explain things Mimi. It is a joke but it is real.
https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/03/international-cat-federation-ba...
wow, speechless, numb, idiotic - thanks for the explanations/nt
Or maybe it can be explained in the form of a cartoon.
Reddit
has Censored Zero Hedge, RT, Sputnik News and who knows what else.
Reddit is becoming worthless and now banning Russian TV and Film on Netflix?
Horrifying. Not even remotely okay.
NYCVG
I believe we have become what our parents
thought they had defeated in WWII
If you don't have truth on your side all you have is
gaslighting BS. But we still haven't hit rock bottom.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Interesting how the Neo-nazi's in Ukraine are being
supported by Germany, US, Canada, UK (and other countries) which seem to have a Neo-nazi
governance streak running thru them. The headline above calling Putin a Hitler is very
telling on the western attempt to deflect focus away from the actual nazi's (still is a bad term)
to anti-nazi's. Whoever thinks Putin is a nazi is mixed up. Another convenient brain wash.
Island empire solidarity, I guess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Jing%C5%AB
Jingo was a Japanese national heroine...aaand I guess it took a while, but that would've been around the time Japan and Russia were starting to snarl at each other...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Japan%E2%80%93Russian_Empire_rel...
I wonder how popular the term was during WWII (or did they take the occasion to Freedom-Fry the very word for such behavior???)?
EDIT: And my god...I LITERALLY JUST got some PAC E-mail (something called "TakeItBack.org") demanding I "#BoycottRussia".
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Poll: Americans still aren't eager to send in troops
despite overwhelming propaganda
I hope that means our fellow americans are
finally awakening to the shit that's been fed to them and they
don't want to eat it anymore!
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Sadly the public isn't calling the shots. It is TPTB that seem
to have a craving for extending this war.
Polls are more problematical than ever.
.
The land line telephone era was extremely conducive to opinion sampling. You could identify the precise residence for each respondent and even through the earliest days of the answer machine era, pollsters did not have to contend with a large percentage of unanswered calls.
So for the last 20 years or so, even without any nefarious intent, the technique itself is not as statistically valid as the old Gallup Polls of the 20th Century.
And, of course, we have seen journalism degrade over those same 20 years. The "truth" has always been a problematical concept at least since the Book of Genesis. We should not forget the Yellow Journalism as portrayed in Citizen Kane ("You provide the prose poems. I'll provide the war.") So there is today a much greater chance of any mainstream media poll being stacked the old fashioned way with fake numbers.
Finally, polling itself rarely measures opinion -- it creates opinion. Most people have never even heard of most of the "issues" polled. For a perfect example -- consider Presidential polling from more than year ahead of the actual election. There will be a cadre of politics junkies who are certain to vote in their Party Primary the following year. They eagerly tell the pollster whom they support. But most will have not even heard of most the non-incumbent candidates. The pollster posing the question of which candidate will you vote for is most often the first time the respondent even thought about the "next" election.
This effect is far more intense on "issue" questions. Gallup conducts a monthly exercise that attempts to measure public "opinion" of which issues are most important, or most scary or whatever. Only a tiny percentage of average citizens walk through their daily lives worrying about current events, much less bothering to rank their significance. So the pollster first creates the opinion and then reports to the number-crunchers who then publish the "data" as though it accurately portrays public opinion.
I agree that the math of polling is accurate. If you read the same polling script to a statistically significant number of respondents, you can safely project that the general population will show the same proportion of answers. But that does not mean much at all -- it measures the question rather than the "opinions" the question elicits.
This factor gets demonstrated by pollsters from time to time. They will ask a question that assumes the respondent knows, for example, the name of the head guy of China. They will log the response, and then go back to identify him. That invariably changes a significant number of responses.
In short, we have no way of knowing what real people are thinking. We can guess, and I guess that most American do not want the USA to get into war with Russia. I see plenty of hot air on the internet from influencers who want something really, really bad to happen to Putin, and I have no doubt that asking if the respondent "approves" of Putin would bring back a score of at least 90-10 in favor of dunking Putin into a barrel of skunk piss.
But that does not mean that anybody really wants war other than folks who plan to make a killing off of it.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Unfortunately this will soon become commonplace.
Any Minute
If you are siding with the USA Media and its propaganda in any way, you are completely out-of-touch with American Reality.
If you think the Truckers were "dumb" same goes for you. (Colbert used that word about the Convoy a few nights ago. Last time I'll tune in to his show)
NYCVG
a new definition of dumb
kinda underground just yet
dumb = un-programmed ..
example of common usage -
yeah, I'm dumb about that
version of reality being broadcast
like an admission of awareness
the news media is downright bloodthirsty
Bloodthirsty chickenhawks and don't seem to understand that Russia's military is not the Taliban, not ISIS, and not Iraq.
I watched a video last night made by a veteran of Iraq war who was a student of military tactics. He explained how the slowness and delay of the Russian army wasn't because of Ukraine defense (although it was stronger than Russia expected), but was simply standard Soviet military doctrine.
Step #1) send in the conscripts first, not your best forces. Russia is more willing to take losses than many western nations are.
Step #2) once centers for resistance are identified, then consolidate gains and bring up supplies and establish a forward base HQ (i.e. that's what that 40km-long convoy is). It generally takes a few days to do this.
Step #3) set up your artillery and bombard the resistance strong points.
Step #4) only then do you deploy your elite forces
In a couple days the Russian military is going to start overrunning Ukrainian army resistance and the number of civilian deaths will also go up dramatically.
A few more Russia-related headlines
China says "no"
Russia/China trade has gone way up in recent years
this could get messy
What country has leadership that is "insane"??
That's a bit hyperbolic
Operation Barbarossa was/still is the largest land invasion in history - around 3.5 million men. It was done by a racist government that literally wanted to exterminate everyone living there (although the Nazis preferred method was to simply starve everyone to death).
It's difficult to put anything written here into the same frame.
That's why it is called
OPERATION BARBAROSSA IN SLOW MOTION.
How about dealing with the fact that the US rejected ANOTHER of Putin's proposals for a non-aggression treaty? What do you think about that? Does Putin have valid concerns about what the US has been doing for the last 20+ years when the Chicago Boy's first descended on Russia to dismember it and pick it apart like a pack of vultures and hyenas?
Putin is not insane nor is he stupid like the US executive. He knows what has been in store for Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union. But through his exceptional skills and choosing the right people to command his military he has been remarkably successful in keeping the country intact. The current situation is an existential threat to Russia and Putin understands this. If Russia goes down he will ensure the US will go with them.
Big Shame
Totally nut assholes who did this.
Come to think of it...
...What does anybody have in common with Hitler?
Me?
I dabble in painting,
I'm dark-haired with a weird hairstyle,
I like Wagner music,
I think nobody should use tobacco,
I support laws against cruelty to animals,
I've been done harm by prescription drugs,
and I'm bitter and alienated.
What do YOU have in common with Hitler?
This could be a fun drinking game.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
So far I can still
access the rt.com website here in the US, or about half the time I try to access it, but the site has instructions up now for possible ways around a shutdown should that happen.
I'm also looking at the possibility, à la the covid situation, where major social media networks will soon be pressured, or act unilaterally, to combat "Russian disinformation" in their comment pages. At the one social media site where I post, so far I can still comment as I please -- along the same lines as I do here on Ukraine -- but it wouldn't surprise me to soon learn I will have my comments removed or face a suspension if I should dare to publish posts that question US Ukraine policy.
And yes, it's getting scary out there. Especially for my Russian housemate, who is beginning to worry about continuing to have access to bank accounts and having a strong, easily identifiable Russian accent.
What do you think are the chances
that even C99P could get a "Russian disinformation" label on it?
A question
for JtC, but it would be troubling. I've been greatly disturbed at how TPTB arranged to stifle free speech on the internet social platforms and in the medical and academic communities about Covid and the jabs. All while the progressives and liberals in Congress remain silent.
That is why this conversation takes place here
.
There is no reason to assume that confining the discussion to Community Content will keep the heat off, but this is a small board. Hard to see anybody worrying much about what people here say to each other.
But we are not up against reasonable human beings. No telling how thorough their Passive Agressive Fascism will try to be. This little board is therefore a canary in the coal mine. As paranoid and upset as I am, personally, I do not believe the people pushing this bullshit are able to act on such a granular scale.
But AI in the wings, getting ready to throttle the internet . . . .
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
But I am told that Zelensky is Jewish so he wouldn't be
associated with the Nazis.
I just came across this and was somewhat surpried.
Not the part about the gas prices.
But this as it might explain the Russian hatred
Who was Czechoslovakia allied with in WW2?
Nazi Germany
Slovakia became an independent state under the leadership of a Catholic priest, Jozef Tiso, whose followers established a fascist, authoritarian, one-party dictatorship, strongly influenced by the separatist Catholic clerical hierarchy in internal policy and closely allied with Nazi Germany.
Perhaps it is becoming too late to stop this trend.
Ah, the irony that it’s those same right-wingers here in the
German east — regularly denounced as fascists and Nazi-adjacent by all the “approved” parties — who are AGAINST going all-in in Ukraine and waging war on Russians alongside Azov Battalion…
LOL I thought I was done commenting for the night.
Until I came across this gem from Russia Maddow.
How long before the U.S.-EU-NATO establishment’s hate campaign
targets China too, along with all things and people that look Chinese or have any kind of mainland Chinese connection?
Hmm, the “Biden” administration has already continued starving and bombing the people of Yemen and, through its seizure of Afghanistan’s currency reserves, is now starving the people of Afghanistan it professed to be so concerned about just a few months ago…