Open Thread 2/2/22 Wednesday


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Obviously the facts are never just coming at you but are incorporated by an imagination that is formed by your previous experience. Memories of the past are not memories of facts but memories of your imaginings of the facts.

Philip Roth

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Welcome. Today is known as Groundhog Day. In contemporary culture, this is somehow associated with the fantasy comedy film with Bill Murray getting stuck in a recurring past. Deja Vu all over again.

Deja vu is a real phenomena, sometimes a very powerful mental experience. Science has associated it with an electrical discharge in a portion of the brain. The term itself is a French adjective, meaning already seen.

There are other, similar mental mysteries. Presque vu is one. From French, meaning "almost seen" is the intense feeling of being on the very brink of a powerful epiphany, insight, or revelation, without actually achieving the revelation. The feeling is often therefore associated with a frustrating, tantalizing sense of incompleteness or near-completeness.

And then, there is the scarier state called Jamais vu also from French, meaning "never seen" and is any familiar situation which is not recognized by the observer. Sometimes referred to
as the opposite of Deja vu. The memory can be a tricky mechanism at times.

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To gaze at a river made of time and water
And remember Time is another river.
To know we stray like a river
and our faces vanish like water.
... by Jorge Luis Borges

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Have you tricks of the memory to share? Open thread so share whatever you remember ..

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Another French saying meaning everyday life. The flashes of memories almost realized, the experience of having this episode already lived thru, and the erasure of past recollections.
These are little understood forms of mental awareness.

Some science can hypothesize these episodes toward the functioning of synapse, dendrite exchanges, or something very subtle in the biochemistry of the brain.

One theory I like to entertain filters down to the nature of consciousness. It is perhaps like looking into a mirror thru a veil. Occasionally the veil slips away and we are left with raw awareness what is, was and will be. Dreams seem to operate in this realm.

Perhaps this is just another indication of the developing senescence of the mind.

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@QMS

I can tell that my own mind is slipping away- I often feel that I'm living in some sort of a just-waking state, still lying in the warm sheets, and never fully awaken. It is all too often as if the alarm has just gone off, and no amount of vitamin B will restore full clarity. I'd try caffeine, but my cardiologist would have a cow; and I'd probably just be jittery-cloudy instead of comfortably-cloudy.

I'm reminded of a science fiction short story I read decades ago, about a person who was convinced that things didn't exist when they weren't there to see them- basically solipsism taken to an extreme. After years of therapy they were declared to be cured, and the last scene of the story was them driving out of New York City and into their new lives. Meanwhile, behind them, the cranes were being brought out, and teams of white-jumpsuited Assemblers began to break down the city and put it into storage, until they someday returned.

I wish I could remember the name of the story now, but in keeping with the topic at hand, it has slipped my mind. Nevertheless, whenever I go someplace, I amuse myself by being on the lookout for people in white coveralls and hardhats scuttling away out of the corners of my eyes, or large screw heads covered by curtains to allow for rapid assembly/disassembly of the set du jour. In short, I've got all the French Vus covered, and I'm never bored... I simply call all of the intersections of Deja and the other Vus "continuity problems".

And have a great day, everybody!

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@usefewersyllables

that is a good way of looking at things. What amazes me, is on occasion I will get a fresh memory from out of the blue. Very detailed, as if from yesterday. The weird thing is, I have no idea what triggered it. Hadn't thought of that for 30 + years, and all of the sudden I am reliving some
mundane occurrence lost to oblivion. On the opposite side of the coin, did I just take my supplements this morning, or did I check the mail already? Life is but a dream.

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@QMS

for another favorite tune, this time from the largely-forgotten German band Propaganda: Poe, set to music.

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Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow —
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand —
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep — while I weep!
O God! Can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

Edgar Allen Poe, March 31, 1849. Everything old is new again...

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@QMS

and on the way I found

do some do wop daily

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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Working our way along the wheel of time. Days continue to grow, and warmth edges closer.

Imbolc (the pagan name for today), February 2, is a celebration of the promise of the return of spring.

Imbolc translated literally means "in the belly" in Gaelic. It is called this because it is when the sheep first began to give milk again, signifying they were pregnant.

A joyous occasion, it symbolized the promise of the return of spring and is halfway between the winter solstice and spring equinox. This is a time in which both crops and animals are blessed to ensure an abundant year that all would be healthy and new life would spring forth soon. Signs of the first buds of spring are appearing.

Maidens and the pagan goddess Brigid are honored on this holiday as they represent fertility. With the conversion to Christianity in Ireland, Brigid the goddess became Saint Brigid, and missionaries incorporated the traditional pagan customs into Christianity in Ireland.

https://exemplore.com/paganism/Wheel-of-the-Year-The-Eight-Pagan-Holidays

So now, as the Maiden form of the Goddess whispers to us of hope and new beginnings at the festival of Imbolc, it is on a cold February morning that you are invited to step onto the ‘Wheel of the Year.'

— Carole Carlton, author

Have a great day! Chilly and rainy here.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout

Have a couple feet of snow on the ground to celebrate.
Perhaps the howling of the coyotes at night signifies their pleasure
of the mating game.

Happy Imbolc!

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@gjohnsit

we have evidence that one of our neighbors got elected to the town council- they actually plowed our street. Wow, we get a benefit from someone else's grift!

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I just lost a comment, does that count as a vu thing.

I'd like to suggest Tele Vu, "as seen on TV", the cornfoozelation of the tv news, or something even more fictitious with reality, including one's own reality.

There's also Deja Deja Vu, the seeming recurrence of some seemingly recurring thing, dream (or is it) or hallucination (again,is it)

There's also plain old À la recherche du temps perdu. If one hasn't read it, should one, and if one has, should one re-read it? Mo bettah, should one attempt it, or simply be here now, yet again, and again.

In the caverns of the mind ...

be well and have a good one

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Granddaughter passed her nursing exam and starts her residency on the 14th.
Yay!
Been a long hard effort for her. And a bit spendy for me. O'well, never seen a hearse pullin' a u-haul.
40° here and foggy. Getting the seed starter room ready. Start with some early girl tomatoes and broccoli.
Have seven raised beds 50' long, two of them 4' wide. Will try planting the three sisters together this year, corn, beans, and zuccini.
While watching the Pilgrims special on OPB the other nite, I picked up on Squanto telling the colonists to wait for the corn to come up first, then plant the beans and squash.
How 'bout that, getting advice straight from the original source.
Have a great day everyone.

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Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@earthling1

For our CSA we used to do 100 ft long beds, 4 ft wide, about 20 to 40 beds. The 4 ft wide is an excellent size, to my thinking. Can do all the weeding stuff pretty easily, don't need to step into the bed, but have enough room to grow the larger veggies and the corn. Have fun with the seed room. We are starting ours this week too, in the greenhouse Smile

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If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so

of that spectacular memory moment, but I forgot it.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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for steadily imagining the past in the present, and voyages into the heart.

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