The Dose 01-24-22

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The Dose is an open thread dedicated to the gentle discussion of of all things Covid. Please refrain from posting covid material elsewhere. Thank you.

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01/24/22 - 8:00 am•Upcoming
Senator Ron Johnson Roundtable Discussion: COVID 19 - A Second Opinion
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/senator-ron-johnson-roundtable-d...
U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) will hold a panel discussion, COVID 19: A Second Opinion. A group of world renowned doctors and medical experts will provide a different perspective on the global pandemic response, the current state of knowledge of early and hospital treatment, vaccine efficacy and safety, what went right, what went wrong, what should be done now, and what needs to be addressed long term.

Anyone with an interest in yesterday's DC rally, it is still available
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/dc-defeat-the-mandates-livestream

RFK speech was good. He's at the 2 hour 50 min mark.

Stay healthy. Be well!

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@Lookout @Lookout
…….still watching…..worth the time to watch!

Senator Ron Johnson Roundtable Discussion: COVID 19 - A Second Opinion
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/senator-ron-johnson-roundtable-d...

Edit: [Stream stopped abruptly @ 3 hours in as McCullough] [ Stream continues @ Ron Johnson website]

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@ovals49

https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/senator-ron-johnson-roundtable-d...
So now you can fast forward and watch what you want. I thought it was an excellent discussion.

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@Lookout
My S.O. found a live stream on a Ron Johnson Senate link so we were able to watch to the end with only a short introduction.

There is a LOT of information in this 5 hr forum. Like trying to drink from a fire hose!

A few couple of points addressed that I found particularly interesting:
* Reference to mucosal immune system and IGa (also brought up in an excellent recent John Campbell/Robert Clancy video)
* Recent emergence of three US military whistleblowers revealing very troubling data in post vaccine medical surveillance, including indications of tampering that database so as to minimize the scale of vaccine related injuries.

I hope that this complete “Roundtable” discussion is preserved in its entirety somewhere. It was a remarkable collection of extremely knowledgeable professionals, some of whom who were completely new to me. Truly an impressive and inspiring group of dedicated professionals.

Here’s the link to the full 5 hour COVID-19: A Second Opinion

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@ovals49

Thanks for the reinforcement.

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3 weeks in. Cough is pretty much gone, but yesterday my throat was a bit pissy again- so I decided to feed it hot, slightly acidic and peppery soup, as is my wont. Luckily, we have a bumper crop of dill in the little herb garden to provide the inspiration:

Dill pickle and brat soup

1 yellow onion (chopped)
EVOO to saute (or you can use bacon fat, as we did)
1 carrot (grated)
1 cup dill pickles (finely chopped)
3 red potatoes (large, skins on, cut in 1/2 inch dice)
32 ounces chicken stock (carton)
1/2 cup pickle juice (or more)
1 tablespoon worcestershire sauce
3 cloves garlic (minced, but c'mon, who would use only 3? We do 6-7...)
1/2 cup fresh dill (chopped)
3 brats (cooked, grilled and sliced into coins)
3/4 cup sour cream
3 tablespoons flour
salt and pepper to taste (easy on the salt, the brats will probably cover it).

Coat the bottom of a heavy pan with olive oil and saute the onion and carrot for about 5 minutes, or until the onion has softened. Add the rest of the ingredients, up to but not including the sour cream, and bring to a simmer. Cover and simmer for about 15 minutes, or until the potatoes are tender but not mushy.
Mix the flour and sour cream together until completely combined, and stir in to the soup. Season to taste with salt and pepper, and cook for a further few minutes.
Serve garnished with sprigs of dill and thinly sliced pickles, and maybe crumbly bacon if you have some around.
CROCK POT METHOD: Put everything in the crock pot up to, but not including the sour cream, etc. Let it cook on low for 4 hours. Stir in the sour cream and flour mixture, and cook for another hour until smooth and slightly thickened.

It probably had no medicinal effect, of course, but it sure as hell made me happier.

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@usefewersyllables

Or is it a classic I've never heard of before? Thanks for posting it.

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@Pluto's Republic

it has been around for a while. I did a search for "dill" in our recipe database, and that was the most appealing among what popped up. I remember scanning it in back a couple years ago, but not from where, exactly. It was in a stack of magazine and newspaper clippings that had become a fire hazard.

I don't think that it is a classic, as such- it is just comfort food... But it was dead easy and definitely hit the spot. And we have almost 2 quarts leftover for lunches this week.

We just routinely tweak the quantities of our favorite bits to suit our mood of the day. Like garlic. Garlic is a vegetable, not a herb... (;-) And since covid: acidic yummies like vinegar and lemon juice. I've always been an acidhead, but there's nothing like a good shot of the sour to really do the trick. Like an Airborne tablet dissolved in a double Harvey Wallbanger. You gotta get that vitamin C somehow, right? Might as well enjoy it in an adult form.

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@usefewersyllables

It has all the elements that are traditionally used in a tonic. Especially the fermented notes.I could actually taste it as I read the recipe, so I know it has to be molecularly active for what ails me.

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want to control the world

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/israeli-immunol...

Prof Qimron said the Israeli government should have adopted the “Great Barrington Declaration”, a 2020 document authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University calling for an end to “devastating” lockdown policies around the world.

“You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them,” he wrote.

“The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority.

“The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.

“You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health. You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarised the discourse.”

He was also critical of Israel’s “Green Pass” vaccine passport system, saying the government had branded, “without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease”.

Despite skyrocketing Covid-19 cases, Prof Qimron claimed that there was “currently no medical emergency”.

“But you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control,” he wrote.

“The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and psychological engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.”

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Julius Reuchel st the automatic earth, best explanation of why the flu disappeared I’ve seen yet.
And I’ve been looking.

After reading this, everything else seems like so much bullshit I could grow a bumper crop of Bud in it.
Easy to find. Automatic Earth, scroll down

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
Sign at protest march

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@Tall Bald and Ugly @Tall Bald and Ugly He does an excellent job of spelling out the BS
that has gripped the masses.

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@Tall Bald and Ugly

Another thing it points out is that RSV which usually hits young kids is back with a vengeance this year and could be explained by immunity debt because kids were kept out of schools and not being exposed to it. Adults are experiencing the same thing with other viruses. One thing mentioned is how the virus can stay in the air for days. With omicron so infective I understand why cases are exploding if that’s true.

https://www.juliusruechel.com/2022/01/the-false-god-of-central-planning....

Yesterday some Twitnit posted a picture of a months old baby that was supposedly 3 years old with the caption, "mommy I’m sorry I will be good." just before he was put on a ventilator. I called bullcrap on it because any young kid would have been sedated before he was vented. Adults are sedated too before they are because people would absolutely freak out and fight against a tube being shoved down their throat. It’d cause lots of damage if the muscles and infrastructure wasn’t relaxed. Just more fear mongering crap because soon Fauci is going to allow babies to get jabbed for Covid and they gotta to scare parents. Gawd if that isn’t some nasty Nazi propaganda.

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In 2018 no-one would have run a PCR test to look for influenza or rhinovirus or coronavirus in a long-term care patient dying of cancer, heart disease, dementia, or Alzheimer's, even if respiratory viruses did infect these patients as "old man's friend" in their final days of life. But in 2020 and 2021 that is precisely what is happening with Covid PCR tests, leading to a mass overcounting of Covid as the cause of death. Some Covid deaths really were caused by Covid, just as influenza and other respiratory viruses are the direct cause of some deaths every year, but Covid deaths were dramatically overinflated because of these misleading accounting practices.

Let’s not forget that hospitals get a monetary incentive to call a death from other diseases a death from Covid. Even more if they get put on remdisiver and then ventilated. If this isn’t ghoulish I don’t know what is. Especially when we have lots of repurposed drugs to choose from instead. More money for death than to keep people alive. Shudder at that thinking.

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They will be my evening reading/watching. They look interesting.

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Midazolum and opioids for people in nursing homes there. They caused depression of the respiratory system and used on people who weren’t having severe breathing problems. There was a discussion about it in April 2020. I first read about this being used back in October, but couldn’t find anyone else covering it. I’ve now seen many other sites talking about it. Here’s a part of the discussion on it.

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I’ve lost the link to the discussion but will look for it again and post it. But you can find more on this from the video. Almost every country locked down their nursing homes and put Covid positive people in them to take the pressure off their hospitals. Hancock had ordered a 2 year supply of Midazolum and used it up by October of 2020. He started collecting it before he knew he was going to use it.

https://awakenedworld.co.uk/clare-wills-harrison-talks-to-dr-bryan-ardis/

This is just one of the lawsuits for Covid f-ups coming from there.
Bryan is from the Covid revealed series who’s father was ventilated and put on remdisiver and suffered from massive increases of fluid in his lungs and kidneys until he got lasix.

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@snoopydawg

... and they spread out in Anglo enclaves across the planet.

Suddenly, it all becomes obvious.

Fascism is a very odd mind virus. It arrived on this planet out of nowhere. There was no prior doctrine, no ideology, no books, no papers, no pamphlets even. But after a few years of its arrival, just about every country in the world had a "Fascist" political party at some point. The Fascist movement reached pandemic levels in Germany and was militarily suppressed, but the Nazi virus slipped away and rerooted in former Colonies and colonial nations where genocide was, and is, permitted. It appears to incubate in the synthetic corporations of the Second Industrial Revolution.

It has infected with a vengeance this time — and we realize, it was right there in plain sight the whole time. We just didn't know how to"see" it. Fauci has reprised the role of Mussolini. All the classic parts are in play.

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@Pluto's Republic

to have been, but there were books and articles prior to Italy's adoption of "fascism". Of course, it evolved from a variety of other prior things, like a great many other ideas and systems of thought.

be well and have a good one

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@enhydra lutris

... that it wasn't dropped from a UFO?

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(...first they came for the health care workers....)

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@Pluto's Republic

With as many countries following the same plan I’ve been thinking that Hitler’s ideology wasn’t defeated but exported to many countries and now many leaders are doing some of the things he did. If this story is true and it’s what has been happening in other countries like I’ve read then there is no doubt about it. Like I said I read about this 4-5 months ago and wasn’t sure what to make of it, but since then I’ve seen more verification that it at least happened in Britain. If anyone wants to see the 1st report on it let me know.

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catching up?
Glad to see but a day late and a dollar short. Some people are finally asking questions that should have been posed from day one.

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@randtntx

Sending the elderly home to deal with the illness on their own was criminal. She pointed out awhile ago how people who had recovered from the Rona could go help those who are sick. We’ve all been so sick to get out of bed and were fortunate enough to have someone there to help us.

It’s been 2 years since Trump got sick and got monoclonal antibodies but it took another year before Florida’s guv started using it and then when everyone wanted it Biden took over and is now keeping it from us. 1 in a 100 people get to get it whilst those 99 just hope that their immunity system will beat it.

Fauci, Walensky and Brix the trixxer made up these heinous rules. And what they did to repurposed drugs was criminal and they should be held accountable. Hospitals and doctors could have called people who they sent home to see how they were doing. You know…act like they gave a damn about their patients. They seemed to have plenty of time to do it since they weren’t seeing other patients because their clinics were closed down.

Slim chance that the mainstream media will do what Kim is doing. Thanks for posting this!

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Myristicin is one of them, it occurs in dill and many other plants, for example parsley, fennel, star anise, nutmeg, etc. They are also mildly toxic.

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She is right. Someday we will treat the system we're having forced on us as the crime it is.

No, I don't trust the current incumbents.

Please resveratrol may help, we need to know.

Jennifer Zhang (Little Rock High School, now UC Berkeley) Berkeley proposed RESVERATROL for SARS-MERS like diseases (COVID) in 2017

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Why aren't they investigating it, Only answer is THEY ALREADY KNOW. And the answer is likely not that it doesn't work. Since we already know from Chinese doctors that it does help.

They are likely hiding it because its cheap and unpatented.

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Like XTandi, the $156,000/year Pfitizer drug for prostate cancer.

Can you afford

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We can trace corporatism back to the Mont Pelerin Society (MPS) and the Frankfurt School

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I think that one of the reasons people flock to hospitals and ERs with this scary pandemic is because there is no healthcare system. When I talked to my neighbors about getting vaccinated in early 2021 they all said talk to your doctor or healthcare provider. Who has a doctor or a provider? Not us. We now have basic medicare via SS. We were uninsured for years as we're self employed have been for decades any insurance including Obama care cost as much per month as our mortgage, property taxes, and home insurance combined. Still cant afford supplemental coverage. We're not poor but not rich enough as my gentrified neighbors are.

Last time I went to the ER I had a staff infection on my ankle from whacking it with a rusty tool gardening. The nurse practitioner who treated me joked that she thought staff infection was in the buildings air. She asked me for my acupuncturist/Chinese Doctor's name and I wrote Dr. Wong's name down for her. lol. The only thing western corporate medicine is good for is triage.

The reason I found Dr.Wong was that I have a history of anxiety attacks and went to the ER years ago. The dude who was texting my heart rate whispered to me when the doctor was out of the room "Find a good acupuncturist'. I did and now due to no vax card/passport I'm not getting acupuncture or Chinese herbs these days. My anxiety level is off the charts and now I'm majorly depressed to boot. Lot of major depression among people I know.There is no healthcare system in the US. Corporate Healthcare for profit is an oxymoron. Although I did read that due to opioid misuse Medicare will now pay for acupuncture.

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@shaharazade

Despondency is the new reality for us aged warriors.
I Just dropped all of the useless part B and D "supplements"
to my Medicare. It's part A disaster insurance period. Don't care
anymore. They take my money, but give me nothing in return.
It's an f*ing scam. Would rather pay for food, heat and power than
line some govt. agency with bucks just to be denied coverage.

Glad I'm not the only one ..
take care of yourself

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@shaharazade

I think that one of the reasons people flock to hospitals and ERs with this scary pandemic is because there is no healthcare system.

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With Sen. Ron Johnson. Aside from trying to get the DOD to not erase
implicating documents, what is he going to do about this situation?
Increase awareness? Most of us already know the depth of this deception.
This whole shit show is beyond repair. To stop the mandate / passport
process, many heads of CDC, FDA, and NIH will have to roll. Like DeJoy
and Fauci. Ain't gonna happen. They are all ingrained with the corps that
support them. This is the new reality. Ouch!

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@QMS

What is Johnson going to do with the information from this and what is he doing with the information he learned from the vax injured? I haven’t heard anything, but it could be that it’s not being covered. Or you know…censored. I’m still seeing lots of shitlibs railing against anyone who tries repurposed drugs and cheering those who didn’t make it. Just had a Twit snit with someone who doesn’t think anyone who hasn’t been jabbed to get medical treatment if they get it over someone with a different problem. He thinks only the jabbed should get treated in hospitals if others aren’t.

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Is a good thing. The nurse at the very end was the most compelling to me, but I was enthralled by the entire hearing....really much more than yesterday's rally....a conversation rather than separate presentations.

My 2 cents.

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@Lookout

He and Rand Paul seem to be the only ones willing to talk about things, but how far will they take it? They aren’t in power now but it seems that people from the out of power party can still get things done.

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@snoopydawg is (barely) in the minority in the senate, he's not free to call hearings on the Covid response and compel Fauci and Walensky to testify. Ds control that process.

Normally then his next approach might be to get coverage for these issues in the MSM, but other than Fox he would be shut out.

I'm not sure what he could do other than to hold these unofficial hearings and hope to see them promoted as much as possible via YT or Rumble. Perhaps he should try for an interview w Joe Rogan, though I understand JR doesn't do many interviews with pols. But Johnson is different, at least on Covid, so perhaps an exception can be made.

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@wokkamile has Neil Young so upset that he is threatening to take down his music from Spotify.
Remember when he was a dirty hippie, rebellious, and speaking out against tptb?

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@on the cusp

Why people think that their opinions should be counted over someone else’s is hard to understand. If they don’t like what someone says then just ignore them. Anyone who has recovered from Covid by using other treatments get slammed by everyone who doesn’t think they work. I guess the fact that they survived should tell them something.

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@on the cusp Is still a dirty hippie although an old one. He is threatening Spotify because they are paying Joe Rogan a freaking fortune to carry his shows and musicians on Spotify make pennies when they play their songs. Spotify sucks. I'm married to a musician. He refuses to listen to Spotify. Pandora also sucks. Musicians get screwed by these so called music sites. @zed2

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They aren’t in power now

But both parties are able to bring things up so that’s why I asked what they can do about the information he heard.

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which apparently also doesn’t work so a 4th is in order. Tell me again why the unjabbed should take 2 jabs of something that has been proven not to work?

Anyone still trusting this fool is one also. He has been wrong more often than he’s been right starting with masks don’t work….

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