@QMS
This edict is absurd on its face, unconstitutional, and medically unethical. It will accomplish no useful public health goal whatsoever.
Of course it will be embraced by the blindly obedient who will mistakenly believe it to be necessary to protect their own personal health and well being. Fact checkers will assure us that it is so. End of discussion.
Hopefully it is The Onion having a laugh on us?
You must show your papers lo leave your home.
Outrageous.
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On January 15, 2022, per Mayor’s Order 2021-148, the District of Columbia will adopt a city wide vaccination entry requirement that requires COVID-19 vaccination to enter indoor facilities within the city.
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This edict is absurd on its face, unconstitutional, and medically unethical. It will accomplish no useful public health goal whatsoever.
Of course it will be embraced by the blindly obedient who will mistakenly believe it to be necessary to protect their own personal health and well being. Fact checkers will assure us that it is so. End of discussion.
On January 15, 2022, per Mayor’s Order 2021-148, the District of Columbia will adopt a city wide vaccination entry requirement that requires COVID-19 vaccination to enter indoor facilities within the city.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@enhydra lutris
test and photo? Or to a doctor's office? Insurance office? Bank? Grocery store? Pharmacy? Any court appearance, whether to fight a traffic ticket, or adopt a child? How in hell is this mandate supposed to work? Suppose I am compliant, and I am in the 2 weeks process of getting the first and second shot, and some court date intervenes? Does this apply to going to see your lawyer?
This will be an enormous interruption of lives, and normal systems and processes to take care of yourself, your family, and to comply with all law.
Pretty much my thoughts Xackly. Reminds me of all of the necessary interactions with various bureaucracies and the judicial system that faced the mobility impaired back in the sixties and seventies (and, truth be told, still) causing them to suffer worse hassles due to their involuntary non-compliance with this, that, and the other.
be well and have a good one
#1.1.1.1 test and photo? Or to a doctor's office? Insurance office? Bank? Grocery store? Pharmacy? Any court appearance, whether to fight a traffic ticket, or adopt a child? How in hell is this mandate supposed to work? Suppose I am compliant, and I am in the 2 weeks process of getting the first and second shot, and some court date intervenes? Does this apply to going to see your lawyer?
This will be an enormous interruption of lives, and normal systems and processes to take care of yourself, your family, and to comply with all law.
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@enhydra lutris
This was back in the 80s before ramps and elevators were commonly installed. There were so many ordinary things he could not do easily, if at all.
This might stop deliveries to grocery stores, pharmacies...I could go on, but it just doesn't seem at all practical, even if it had a positive effect on stopping the spread of the virus. If a person can't drive, the store has no food, so somebody tell me, how does this raise a communities' general quality of life?
Pretty much my thoughts Xackly. Reminds me of all of the necessary interactions with various bureaucracies and the judicial system that faced the mobility impaired back in the sixties and seventies (and, truth be told, still) causing them to suffer worse hassles due to their involuntary non-compliance with this, that, and the other.
be well and have a good one
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https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 diverse people from across the globe will peacefully march in their capitals against COVID mandates, vaccine passports & division. These World Wide Rallies for Freedom occur every two months and we’ve scheduled our march to align with this growing international movement. https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
Bet the new DC mandate is in response to the upcoming rally.
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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 diverse people from across the globe will peacefully march in their capitals against COVID mandates, vaccine passports & division. These World Wide Rallies for Freedom occur every two months and we’ve scheduled our march to align with this growing international movement. https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
Bet the new DC mandate is in response to the upcoming rally.
@Lookout
which expire on January 15. There are a lot of moving pieces on the game board, including multiple court challenges on mandates and a growing erosion of confidence in vaccine efficacy among the general population.
Something pivotal is brewing behind the scenes, and I have no idea exactly what that might be, but I’m pretty sure I’m not going to like it. At all.
https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 diverse people from across the globe will peacefully march in their capitals against COVID mandates, vaccine passports & division. These World Wide Rallies for Freedom occur every two months and we’ve scheduled our march to align with this growing international movement. https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
Bet the new DC mandate is in response to the upcoming rally.
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that vaccine efficacy wanes, and omicron is manageable from home with D, Zn, Iodine, and so on. I don't see how TPTB can continue to push the mandates when almost everyone understands the vaxed can catch and spread COVID. The harder they push the more people are waking to the real goal...control. That's my hope anyway.
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which expire on January 15. There are a lot of moving pieces on the game board, including multiple court challenges on mandates and a growing erosion of confidence in vaccine efficacy among the general population.
Something pivotal is brewing behind the scenes, and I have no idea exactly what that might be, but I’m pretty sure I’m not going to like it. At all.
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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 diverse people from across the globe will peacefully march in their capitals against COVID mandates, vaccine passports & division. These World Wide Rallies for Freedom occur every two months and we’ve scheduled our march to align with this growing international movement. https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
Bet the new DC mandate is in response to the upcoming rally.
Just when have people been barred from praying during Covid?
Would have liked it if these sponsoring groups had put their energy into rallying for women's reproductive freedom. Now THAT'S a true personal choice issue because it isn't a community health issue. Abd it is a freedom that is truly threatened.
https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 diverse people from across the globe will peacefully march in their capitals against COVID mandates, vaccine passports & division. These World Wide Rallies for Freedom occur every two months and we’ve scheduled our march to align with this growing international movement. https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
Bet the new DC mandate is in response to the upcoming rally.
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Just when have people been barred from praying during Covid?
Would have liked it if these sponsoring groups had put their energy into rallying for women's reproductive freedom. Now THAT'S a true personal choice issue because it isn't a community health issue. Abd it is a freedom that is truly threatened.
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"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
countries are pushing this totalitarian mandate regime some countries seem to be getting that maybe Omicron might be Covid's ending. Here are examples of Canada and Scotland going the globalist route while Spain seems to get that Covid might just be Flu like.
Sounds like direct application to "some" primate cells in petri dishes. Some cells of some kinds from some species of primates. Results in "strong" (undefined) effect.
be well and have a good one
countries are pushing this totalitarian mandate regime some countries seem to be getting that maybe Omicron might be Covid's ending. Here are examples of Canada and Scotland going the globalist route while Spain seems to get that Covid might just be Flu like.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
will turn out to be mild or not. But I see nothing wrong with a play-it-as-safe-as-possible approach. In healthcare that approach is called the precautionary principle and is embodied in the idea of 'universal precautions'. It is just the idea that you regard all of your patients as potentially contagious and take basic precautions to protect yourself (as the caregiver) as well as them.
I think that's a reasonable approach to take to Covid and all its variants. Our society is not even doing the easy basics. We are not ensuring a supply of the best masks, even though that would not be hard to do. We refuse to improve ventilation and act like it is such an expense. We send our kids into overcrowded classrooms instead of trying to implement better ways to provide their schooling. We could use a remote learning option, but school officials don't want to. It seems to me we are not even trying to respond to this crisis even with very basic adjustments .
We would rather risk the health of our people and future generations than use our brains to adjust to new circumstances. No, we can not go back to the old way of doing things. Yes, we have to make changes in order to protect ourselves. It really is that simple. Why don't we just do it already?
Some of the kids know we can and must do things differently. They are walking out of classes in NY.
On Tuesday, nearly one thousand students at over 30 K-12 schools in New York City participated in a walkout to protest the unsafe reopening of the largest school district in the United States, amid a surge of the highly infectious and deadly Omicron variant of the coronavirus. The reopening of schools is being led by the new mayor of New York City, Democrat Eric Adams.
Some teachers and parents know this as well.
The protest of high school and middle school youth is part of a broader and deepening fight by students, educators and parents calling for the closure of schools. Protests are taking shape in Oakland, California; Portland, Oregon; Boston, Massachusetts; and perhaps most significantly, Chicago, Illinois, where the teachers union is maneuvering to force teachers back to in-person learning despite overwhelming opposition.
Healthy children DO NOT get severe illness. No healthy children have died of COVID only those with comorbidities (which were the likely cause of death). There is a social cost to children who don't socialize and can't see faces to learn facial communication skills. A year ago I would have agreed to the closures, but with my current understanding, I would open schools.
The kids are safe. They always have been.
It may sound strange, given a year of panic over school closures and reopenings, a year of masking toddlers and closing playgrounds and huddling in pandemic pods, that, according to the CDC, among children the mortality risk from COVID-19 is actually lower than from the flu. The risk of severe disease or hospitalization is about the same.
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Over the course of the pandemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes, according to the CDC. Only 331 of those deaths have been from [edit with?] COVID — less than half as many as have died of pneumonia.
Additionally, I think vaccines are not a good idea for kids.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
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It cites new evidence showing the risk of myocarditis in young men and boys is up to 14 times higher after vaccination than after infection.
And it states that given the high level of naturally acquired immunity from infection as well as the replacement of the Delta variant by milder Omicron, “it's crucial that, if we are to proceed with the mass double vaccination of healthy children, we are absolutely certain this policy will do more good than harm.”
will turn out to be mild or not. But I see nothing wrong with a play-it-as-safe-as-possible approach. In healthcare that approach is called the precautionary principle and is embodied in the idea of 'universal precautions'. It is just the idea that you regard all of your patients as potentially contagious and take basic precautions to protect yourself (as the caregiver) as well as them.
I think that's a reasonable approach to take to Covid and all its variants. Our society is not even doing the easy basics. We are not ensuring a supply of the best masks, even though that would not be hard to do. We refuse to improve ventilation and act like it is such an expense. We send our kids into overcrowded classrooms instead of trying to implement better ways to provide their schooling. We could use a remote learning option, but school officials don't want to. It seems to me we are not even trying to respond to this crisis even with very basic adjustments .
We would rather risk the health of our people and future generations than use our brains to adjust to new circumstances. No, we can not go back to the old way of doing things. Yes, we have to make changes in order to protect ourselves. It really is that simple. Why don't we just do it already?
Some of the kids know we can and must do things differently. They are walking out of classes in NY.
On Tuesday, nearly one thousand students at over 30 K-12 schools in New York City participated in a walkout to protest the unsafe reopening of the largest school district in the United States, amid a surge of the highly infectious and deadly Omicron variant of the coronavirus. The reopening of schools is being led by the new mayor of New York City, Democrat Eric Adams.
Some teachers and parents know this as well.
The protest of high school and middle school youth is part of a broader and deepening fight by students, educators and parents calling for the closure of schools. Protests are taking shape in Oakland, California; Portland, Oregon; Boston, Massachusetts; and perhaps most significantly, Chicago, Illinois, where the teachers union is maneuvering to force teachers back to in-person learning despite overwhelming opposition.
Children should be in school. The deprivation of normal human contacts and fear installation, instead of education, we have subjected this generation to, will reverberate throughout our country for generations to come----if there are generations to come.
Healthy children DO NOT get severe illness. No healthy children have died of COVID only those with comorbidities (which were the likely cause of death). There is a social cost to children who don't socialize and can't see faces to learn facial communication skills. A year ago I would have agreed to the closures, but with my current understanding, I would open schools.
The kids are safe. They always have been.
It may sound strange, given a year of panic over school closures and reopenings, a year of masking toddlers and closing playgrounds and huddling in pandemic pods, that, according to the CDC, among children the mortality risk from COVID-19 is actually lower than from the flu. The risk of severe disease or hospitalization is about the same.
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Over the course of the pandemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes, according to the CDC. Only 331 of those deaths have been from [edit with?] COVID — less than half as many as have died of pneumonia.
Additionally, I think vaccines are not a good idea for kids.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
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It cites new evidence showing the risk of myocarditis in young men and boys is up to 14 times higher after vaccination than after infection.
And it states that given the high level of naturally acquired immunity from infection as well as the replacement of the Delta variant by milder Omicron, “it's crucial that, if we are to proceed with the mass double vaccination of healthy children, we are absolutely certain this policy will do more good than harm.”
@Lookout
. I think the medical community is seeing large numbers of people becoming ill and that they are overwhelmed and have to triage care in ways that are more stringent than before. I do understand that part of this is because we have shuttered hospitals and reduced staff.
"The truth is that the next four to six weeks will be the most challenging of the entire pandemic," Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan said in a statement last week. "All of the emergency actions we are taking today are to keep our hospitals from overflowing, to keep our kids in school, and to keep Maryland open for business, and we will continue to take whatever actions are necessary in the very difficult days and weeks ahead."
Gov. Hogan's order mobilized 1,000 members of the Maryland National Guard to assist state and local health officials. At least 10 states have called up National Guard members, spanning Oregon to New York, to help respond to the tidal wave of omicron cases and hospitalizations. For instance, Massachusetts deployed National Guard members in late December to hospitals deluged by COVID-19 patients. One of those facilities is UMass Memorial Medical Center, the main hospital in central Massachusetts, which is currently operating at 115 percent, according to a January 9 report by CNN.
All I know is if I had school-age children they would not be going to an overcrowded school with substandard ventilation and with other students with poorly fitted masks. Possibly covid doesn't hurt children, but I have read too much about long covid, asymptomatic infection and spread to send a kid into that environment. The refusal of those in positions of power to take basic steps to mitigate transmission is appalling. I just don't accept it.
Healthy children DO NOT get severe illness. No healthy children have died of COVID only those with comorbidities (which were the likely cause of death). There is a social cost to children who don't socialize and can't see faces to learn facial communication skills. A year ago I would have agreed to the closures, but with my current understanding, I would open schools.
The kids are safe. They always have been.
It may sound strange, given a year of panic over school closures and reopenings, a year of masking toddlers and closing playgrounds and huddling in pandemic pods, that, according to the CDC, among children the mortality risk from COVID-19 is actually lower than from the flu. The risk of severe disease or hospitalization is about the same.
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Over the course of the pandemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes, according to the CDC. Only 331 of those deaths have been from [edit with?] COVID — less than half as many as have died of pneumonia.
Additionally, I think vaccines are not a good idea for kids.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
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It cites new evidence showing the risk of myocarditis in young men and boys is up to 14 times higher after vaccination than after infection.
And it states that given the high level of naturally acquired immunity from infection as well as the replacement of the Delta variant by milder Omicron, “it's crucial that, if we are to proceed with the mass double vaccination of healthy children, we are absolutely certain this policy will do more good than harm.”
Healthy children DO NOT get severe illness. No healthy children have died of COVID only those with comorbidities (which were the likely cause of death). There is a social cost to children who don't socialize and can't see faces to learn facial communication skills. A year ago I would have agreed to the closures, but with my current understanding, I would open schools.
The kids are safe. They always have been.
It may sound strange, given a year of panic over school closures and reopenings, a year of masking toddlers and closing playgrounds and huddling in pandemic pods, that, according to the CDC, among children the mortality risk from COVID-19 is actually lower than from the flu. The risk of severe disease or hospitalization is about the same.
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Over the course of the pandemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes, according to the CDC. Only 331 of those deaths have been from [edit with?] COVID — less than half as many as have died of pneumonia.
Additionally, I think vaccines are not a good idea for kids.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
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It cites new evidence showing the risk of myocarditis in young men and boys is up to 14 times higher after vaccination than after infection.
And it states that given the high level of naturally acquired immunity from infection as well as the replacement of the Delta variant by milder Omicron, “it's crucial that, if we are to proceed with the mass double vaccination of healthy children, we are absolutely certain this policy will do more good than harm.”
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
@TB mare
children with comorbidity? What are the specific remedial actions you would take to prevent such children getting infected by SARS-CoV-2? What are the demographics of these children? How many in an average school? What are their comorbidities?
#4.1.3.1 about sending kids to school because only kids with comorbidities will die as if that's just no biggie to her. It's utterly monstrous.
Your reply to me has nothing to do with the topic.
@CB
I was pointing out her cavalier attitude about children DYING by sending them to school.
Your flurry of questions is not responding to that. I am not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist or public health official who is qualified to answer your questions, but there are countries who have managed the pandemic successfully (Viet Nam, China, others) so it is possible to do it without knowingly sending vulnerable children to their death. The US chose not to implement strong public health measures; while claiming to "believe the science," they failed to *act* on the science.
#4.1.3.1.1
children with comorbidity? What are the specific remedial actions you would take to prevent such children getting infected by SARS-CoV-2? What are the demographics of these children? How many in an average school? What are their comorbidities?
@TB mare
response to COVID-19. There are very few countries that will tolerate the complete and total lockdown of entire cities let alone just a school. China has done both as conditions have warranted. China also makes extensive use of a wide variety of medicines to treat the various aspects of the disease in every patient instead the US "one size fits all" - do nothing until you either recover or your lips turn blue.
As far as Vietnam goes, they are following the west - vaccination and masking - both of which are almost completely useless for preventing COVID-19 infection. Children with comorbidity need to be completely isolated from the regular children until the pandemic has ended UNLESS the US starts to allow prophylactics that have been proven to be efficacious in preventing the damaging effect of the disease if applied at the onset (or even before such as ensuring they are getting vitamin D, zinc and other prophylactics we have discussed here at The Dose). Now THAT would be a worthwhile thing to be doing for the school children in America. It would cost less than the pencils, crayons and paper they use daily.
The CDC only offers vaccination, masking, physical isolation and waiting until the disease either resolves itself or their lips turn blue and they are admitted to hospital to then be given "Run... death is near" - Remdesivir (yes, that is on their authorized list to treat children) along with ventilators.
But Viet Nam are protecting their children better than we are:
Thanh Hoa has suspended the use of a Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine batch after over 120 students were hospitalized following their inoculation.
Since November 30, the central province has been vaccinating children aged 15-17 with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. However, over 120 of the children were admitted to hospitals after exhibiting symptoms like nausea, high fever or breathing difficulties, the provincial Center for Disease Control (CDC) said Thursday.
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Over the past week, three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as "overreaction to the vaccine."
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Vietnam is going to come in for a rude awakening once they learn the vaccinations are not the panacea they have been awaiting.
Doctors have warned parents to be highly cautious and closely look out for symptoms of illness for timely hospitalisation.
Children with underlying medical conditions such as obesity, bronchial asthma and low birth weight, and those taking immunosuppressive drugs, malignancies and others fall severely ill if they contract Covid.
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Dr Trương Hữu Khanh, former head of the infectious and nervous diseases department at the Children’s Hospital No.1, said lately more and more children were contracting the virus, but most cases were mild and recovery was quick.
“Only children who are overweight or obese will likely become worse when infected,” the doctor, who has become popular on social media due to his constant livestreams about Covid prevention, said.
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#4.1.3.1.1.1 I was pointing out her cavalier attitude about children DYING by sending them to school.
Your flurry of questions is not responding to that. I am not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist or public health official who is qualified to answer your questions, but there are countries who have managed the pandemic successfully (Viet Nam, China, others) so it is possible to do it without knowingly sending vulnerable children to their death. The US chose not to implement strong public health measures; while claiming to "believe the science," they failed to *act* on the science.
and not one kid died. Weird how the media doesn’t talk about this success story.
#4.1.3.1.1.1.1
response to COVID-19. There are very few countries that will tolerate the complete and total lockdown of entire cities let alone just a school. China has done both as conditions have warranted. China also makes extensive use of a wide variety of medicines to treat the various aspects of the disease in every patient instead the US "one size fits all" - do nothing until you either recover or your lips turn blue.
As far as Vietnam goes, they are following the west - vaccination and masking - both of which are almost completely useless for preventing COVID-19 infection. Children with comorbidity need to be completely isolated from the regular children until the pandemic has ended UNLESS the US starts to allow prophylactics that have been proven to be efficacious in preventing the damaging effect of the disease if applied at the onset (or even before such as ensuring they are getting vitamin D, zinc and other prophylactics we have discussed here at The Dose). Now THAT would be a worthwhile thing to be doing for the school children in America. It would cost less than the pencils, crayons and paper they use daily.
The CDC only offers vaccination, masking, physical isolation and waiting until the disease either resolves itself or their lips turn blue and they are admitted to hospital to then be given "Run... death is near" - Remdesivir (yes, that is on their authorized list to treat children) along with ventilators.
But Viet Nam are protecting their children better than we are:
Thanh Hoa has suspended the use of a Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine batch after over 120 students were hospitalized following their inoculation.
Since November 30, the central province has been vaccinating children aged 15-17 with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine. However, over 120 of the children were admitted to hospitals after exhibiting symptoms like nausea, high fever or breathing difficulties, the provincial Center for Disease Control (CDC) said Thursday.
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Over the past week, three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as "overreaction to the vaccine."
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Vietnam is going to come in for a rude awakening once they learn the vaccinations are not the panacea they have been awaiting.
Doctors have warned parents to be highly cautious and closely look out for symptoms of illness for timely hospitalisation.
Children with underlying medical conditions such as obesity, bronchial asthma and low birth weight, and those taking immunosuppressive drugs, malignancies and others fall severely ill if they contract Covid.
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Dr Trương Hữu Khanh, former head of the infectious and nervous diseases department at the Children’s Hospital No.1, said lately more and more children were contracting the virus, but most cases were mild and recovery was quick.
“Only children who are overweight or obese will likely become worse when infected,” the doctor, who has become popular on social media due to his constant livestreams about Covid prevention, said.
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Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
@CB
. I wouldn't do that either. I'm only talking about using all the mitigation measures that are feasible and that many teachers have been asking for for at least a year now.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
it can't be disproved
it contains two undefinad and likely undefinable terms "helthy" and "severe"
a lot of seemingly quite healthy kids caught polio and the so-called "asian flu", also scarlet fever and rubella. Probably the Spanish Flu too, but that was before my time.
Healthy children DO NOT get severe illness. No healthy children have died of COVID only those with comorbidities (which were the likely cause of death). There is a social cost to children who don't socialize and can't see faces to learn facial communication skills. A year ago I would have agreed to the closures, but with my current understanding, I would open schools.
The kids are safe. They always have been.
It may sound strange, given a year of panic over school closures and reopenings, a year of masking toddlers and closing playgrounds and huddling in pandemic pods, that, according to the CDC, among children the mortality risk from COVID-19 is actually lower than from the flu. The risk of severe disease or hospitalization is about the same.
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Over the course of the pandemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes, according to the CDC. Only 331 of those deaths have been from [edit with?] COVID — less than half as many as have died of pneumonia.
Additionally, I think vaccines are not a good idea for kids.
Doctors and scientists urge caution in giving Covid jabs to 'low risk' children
More than thirty doctors, scientists and MP's have signed a joint letter to the government's vaccine watchdog urging it to "reassess" the Covid vaccine rollout for healthy 12-15-year-olds following new data showing potentially serious harms of the jab are likely to outweigh any potential benefits.
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It cites new evidence showing the risk of myocarditis in young men and boys is up to 14 times higher after vaccination than after infection.
And it states that given the high level of naturally acquired immunity from infection as well as the replacement of the Delta variant by milder Omicron, “it's crucial that, if we are to proceed with the mass double vaccination of healthy children, we are absolutely certain this policy will do more good than harm.”
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
@enhydra lutris@enhydra lutris
affect different age groups. Ordinary influenza affects more children as does polio. The 1918 pandemic mainly affected the 30 to 40 age group while leaving children relatively unscathed. COVID-19 hits the elderly most of all as well as does pneumonia.
You can view the CDC stats here: (take note that the CDC started to group ALL deaths by pneumonia, influenza and COVID-19 as PIC deaths - and use that value when discussing COVID-19 total deaths. I did a post on that slight-of-hand when I discovered it last summer. It only served to show more deaths and why there was the mysterious missing influenza deaths in the 2020/2021 winter.)
it can't be disproved
it contains two undefinad and likely undefinable terms "helthy" and "severe"
a lot of seemingly quite healthy kids caught polio and the so-called "asian flu", also scarlet fever and rubella. Probably the Spanish Flu too, but that was before my time.
@CB
, if children are as immune to this contagious variant and as resilient from becoming seriously ill as people are saying. I know what many have said regarding the data that suggest that children recover from covid readily. I know that there are no pediatric deaths from covid without comorbidities. But what if they get covid once then again and possibly many more times? We really do not know what will happen. Nobody knows at this point. I don't think you can argue that we know.
My main point is that many teachers and support staff have been asking for the schools to use all the mitigation tools that we can to keep the schools as safe as possible. We have absolutely not done that. Now many of the kids and young people don't feel the schools are safe either. I think it is terrible that we don't listen to them.
#4.1.4#4.1.4
affect different age groups. Ordinary influenza affects more children as does polio. The 1918 pandemic mainly affected the 30 to 40 age group while leaving children relatively unscathed. COVID-19 hits the elderly most of all as well as does pneumonia.
You can view the CDC stats here: (take note that the CDC started to group ALL deaths by pneumonia, influenza and COVID-19 as PIC deaths - and use that value when discussing COVID-19 total deaths. I did a post on that slight-of-hand when I discovered it last summer. It only served to show more deaths and why there was the mysterious missing influenza deaths in the 2020/2021 winter.)
#4.1.4.1 , if children are as immune to this contagious variant and as resilient from becoming seriously ill as people are saying. I know what many have said regarding the data that suggest that children recover from covid readily. I know that there are no pediatric deaths from covid without comorbidities. But what if they get covid once then again and possibly many more times? We really do not know what will happen. Nobody knows at this point. I don't think you can argue that we know.
My main point is that many teachers and support staff have been asking for the schools to use all the mitigation tools that we can to keep the schools as safe as possible. We have absolutely not done that. Now many of the kids and young people don't feel the schools are safe either. I think it is terrible that we don't listen to them.
But what if they get covid once then again and possibly many more times? We really do not know what will happen. Nobody knows at this point. I don't think you can argue that we know.
There are also a number of other studies with similar outcomes at the bottom of the following link. Keep in mind that the study of SARS-CoV-2 is only just beginning as this disease has only been around for less than two years so there are ongoing studies. But the results of persistence of anti-bodies looks promising.
Most subjects develop antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 following infection. In order to estimate the duration of immunity induced by SARS-CoV-2 it is important to understand for how long antibodies persist after infection in humans. Here, we assessed the persistence of serum antibodies following WT SARS-CoV-2 infection at 8 and 13 months after diagnosis in 367 individuals. The SARS-CoV-2 spike IgG (S-IgG) and nucleoprotein IgG (N-IgG) concentrations and the proportion of subjects with neutralizing antibodies (NAb) were assessed. Moreover, the NAb titers among a smaller subset of participants (n = 78) against a WT virus (B) and variants of concern (VOCs): Alpha (B.1.1.7), Beta (B.1.351), and Delta (B.1.617.2) were determined. We found that NAb against the WT virus persisted in 89% and S-IgG in 97% of subjects for at least 13 months after infection. Only 36% had N-IgG by 13 months. The mean S-IgG concentrations declined from 8 to 13 months by less than one third; N-IgG concentrations declined by two-thirds. Subjects with severe infection had markedly higher IgG and NAb levels and are expected to remain seropositive for longer. Significantly lower NAb titers against the variants compared to the WT virus, especially after a mild disease, suggests reduced protection against VOCs.
#4.1.4.1 , if children are as immune to this contagious variant and as resilient from becoming seriously ill as people are saying. I know what many have said regarding the data that suggest that children recover from covid readily. I know that there are no pediatric deaths from covid without comorbidities. But what if they get covid once then again and possibly many more times? We really do not know what will happen. Nobody knows at this point. I don't think you can argue that we know.
My main point is that many teachers and support staff have been asking for the schools to use all the mitigation tools that we can to keep the schools as safe as possible. We have absolutely not done that. Now many of the kids and young people don't feel the schools are safe either. I think it is terrible that we don't listen to them.
on the history of the development of mRNA over the many years it has been studied. It talks about Robert Malone's role in the early years and takes the story through all the players and science tech companies that have contributed over time. nRNA presented a lot of challenges to researchers and how they overcame them is pretty fascinating. With all the wrangling between companies with patent issues etc. it's a wonder it got to the point it did leading up to the arrival of coronavirus. I highly recommend it.
@Fishtroller 02
of the mRNA therapy was to use it in mass delivery of a protein into billions of humans that is proving to be harmful to their well-being and health. It will take a decade to research the damage that was done. This is the consequences of human greed and lust for control and power.
I'm thinking that if there will be a Noble Prize winner for the mRNA 'vaccine' in 2022 they may end up regretting that they were responsible for creating a nightmare scenario of a magnitude hitherto unimaginable to mankind.
1Laboratory of Molecular Immunopharmacology and Drug Discovery, Department of Immunology, Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston. MA, USA; 2School of Graduate Biomedical Sciences, Tufts University School of Medicine, Boston, MA, USA; 3Department of Internal Medicine, Tufts University School of Medicine and Tufts Medical Center, Boston, MA,USA; 4Postgraduate Medical School, University of Chieti, Chieti, Italy
The COVID-19 pandemic necessitated the rapid production of vaccines aimed at the production of neutralizing antibodies against the COVID-19 spike protein required for the corona virus binding to target cells. The best well-known vaccines have utilized either mRNA or an adenovirus vector to direct human cells to produce the spike protein against which the body produces mostly neutralizing antibodies. However, recent reports have raised some skepticism as to the biologic actions of the spike protein and the types of antibodies produced. One paper reported that certain antibodies in the blood of infected patients appear to change the shape of the spike protein so as to make it more likely to bind to cells, while other papers showed that the spike protein by itself (without being part of the corona virus) can damage endothelial cells and disrupt the blood-brain barrier. These findings may be even more relevant to the pathogenesis of long-COVID syndrome that may affect as many as 50% of those infected with SARS-CoV-2. In COVID-19, a response to oxidative stress is required by increasing anti-oxidant molecules. In this regard, it is known that polyphenols are natural anti-oxidants with with anti-inflammatory properties. Hence, there are even more reasons to intervene with the use of anti-oxidant compounds, such as luteolin, in addition to available vaccines and anti-inflammatory drugs to prevent the harmful actions of the spike protein.
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The mRNA manufacturers say the S1 sub-unit containing the receptor binding domain (RBD) that attaches to the ACE2 receptors cannot fuse with the cell membrane due the (purposely designed) locked cleavage site connecting the S2 sub-unit. Unfortunately there were no long term studies showing possible dangers of the spike sub-units themselves. What we now know, contrary to the initial statements made by the manufacturers, is that these spikes do not remain attached to the outside of the cell where they have been manufactured but can move from the lymphatic system into your bloodstream. We also know that the 'vaccine' itself can leave the lymphatic system in the muscle and enter the bloodstream and be dispersed in your body to who knows where and inserting them themselves into unknown cells to make the antibodies who knows where. Studies have shown these spike proteins can be found in every organ in your body - even crossing the blood brain barrier. The troubling thing is that there has only been a half year of testing and the double blind placebo group has been dismantled leaving no way to determine the true safety of the product.
The vaccines use much the same genetic makeup as the actual COVID-19 spike protein so asserting blame to either is problematic because they can BOTH CAUSE THE SAME DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY. Then there are the problems of autoimmune disease and ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) that also require longer term studies with double blind placebo groups to truthfully understand the safety profile of the drug vis-a-vis the disease. Take note that the double blind study was discontinued at the 3-4 month time frame where they would have found out how fast the efficacy of the vaccines would wane.
I suggest that all the fore mentioned problems had reared their ugly heads and that is why they got rid of the placebo group so damn quickly. Take note that the manufacturing plants were all built in tandem with the development of the vaccine so it would have cost billions to scrap the technology at this time. So they made a decision to go ahead come hell or high water.
on the history of the development of mRNA over the many years it has been studied. It talks about Robert Malone's role in the early years and takes the story through all the players and science tech companies that have contributed over time. nRNA presented a lot of challenges to researchers and how they overcame them is pretty fascinating. With all the wrangling between companies with patent issues etc. it's a wonder it got to the point it did leading up to the arrival of coronavirus. I highly recommend it.
Udi Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and a leading Israeli immunologist, has taken the opportunity posed by the collapsing narrative to release this open letter to the authorities (this is a mechanical translation from the original Hebrew):
Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure.
In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.
You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.
You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007,” p. 26).
You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.
You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
You refused to adopt the “Great Barrington Declaration,” signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common-sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).
You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
Irreversible damage to trust
However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.
There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and consciousness engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.
Udi Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and a leading Israeli immunologist, has taken the opportunity posed by the collapsing narrative to release this open letter to the authorities (this is a mechanical translation from the original Hebrew):
Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure.
In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.
You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.
You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007,” p. 26).
You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.
You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
You refused to adopt the “Great Barrington Declaration,” signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common-sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).
You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
Irreversible damage to trust
However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.
There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and consciousness engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.
This emergency must stop!
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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
Tapper prefaced his late revelation by prefacing to CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta that “the case numbers aren't really a significant as hospitalizations because what's important is how sick people are getting.”
And since CNN had obfuscated the idea that the CDC was misleading people, Tapper had to spell out what was going on:
Over the weekend the CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky was asked how many people are in the hospital FOR COVID versus how many people are in the hospital WITH COVID. Meaning they're there for some other reason and it's also true that they have COVID.
After playing a soundbite of Walensky admitting “up to 40 percent of the patients who are coming in with COVID are coming in not because they're sick with COVID but because they're coming in with something else,” Tapper seemed a bit surprised and called it “misleading”:
So the hospitals are still stretched thin because of this, so I’m not trying to take away from that. But if 40 percent in some hospitals – 40 percent of the people who have COVID don't necessarily have problematic COVID, they're there because they got in a car accident. They're there because, you know, they bumped their head and they're being included as in the hospital with COVID. That number seems kind of misleading.
By the end of the segment, Tapper seemed to be a little irked by the CDC’s inflated numbers: “And we need the clearest picture possible if somebody’s in the hospital with a broken leg and they also have asymptomatic COVID that should not be counted as hospitalized with COVID, clearly.”
This cams a day after CNN's media apologist Brian Stelter decried the media and "doomsday doctors" for spreading "panic porn" about COVID. And now that they’ve realized there is a lot of lying going on, maybe they’ll have a clue to look into other statistics as well.
Wow when you have lost Brian Stelter you know that you screwed up. However I’m leery about them finally admitting the truth that we have known all along. First they admitted that the PCR tests aren’t worth a hill of beans and now finally admitting that there is a huge difference between WITH Covid and FROM it.
Even Newsweek has posted an article on how badly Fauci has screwed up by the doctors that he smeared for writing the Great Barrington Declaration. Just yesterday he admitted that we should be protecting the most vulnerable which is exactly what 60,000 doctors said right after the country was closed down. He needs to retire and if he won’t then Biden needs to fire him. And Walensky, but I think that’s a given. Somebody needs to get thrown under the bus.
Udi Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and a leading Israeli immunologist, has taken the opportunity posed by the collapsing narrative to release this open letter to the authorities (this is a mechanical translation from the original Hebrew):
Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure.
In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.
You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.
You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007,” p. 26).
You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.
You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
You refused to adopt the “Great Barrington Declaration,” signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common-sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).
You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
Irreversible damage to trust
However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.
There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and consciousness engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.
This emergency must stop!
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Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
so if they back off "covid's gonna get you!!" then that's a major step.
Hey, I read that DARPA thing. It fits with my thinking on the origins. To me, it's common sense that it came from the lab. That one over there. The one with the sign that says "virology" that's next to this wet market. You know, the place where they tinker with viruses.
When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
Tapper prefaced his late revelation by prefacing to CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta that “the case numbers aren't really a significant as hospitalizations because what's important is how sick people are getting.”
And since CNN had obfuscated the idea that the CDC was misleading people, Tapper had to spell out what was going on:
Over the weekend the CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky was asked how many people are in the hospital FOR COVID versus how many people are in the hospital WITH COVID. Meaning they're there for some other reason and it's also true that they have COVID.
After playing a soundbite of Walensky admitting “up to 40 percent of the patients who are coming in with COVID are coming in not because they're sick with COVID but because they're coming in with something else,” Tapper seemed a bit surprised and called it “misleading”:
So the hospitals are still stretched thin because of this, so I’m not trying to take away from that. But if 40 percent in some hospitals – 40 percent of the people who have COVID don't necessarily have problematic COVID, they're there because they got in a car accident. They're there because, you know, they bumped their head and they're being included as in the hospital with COVID. That number seems kind of misleading.
By the end of the segment, Tapper seemed to be a little irked by the CDC’s inflated numbers: “And we need the clearest picture possible if somebody’s in the hospital with a broken leg and they also have asymptomatic COVID that should not be counted as hospitalized with COVID, clearly.”
This cams a day after CNN's media apologist Brian Stelter decried the media and "doomsday doctors" for spreading "panic porn" about COVID. And now that they’ve realized there is a lot of lying going on, maybe they’ll have a clue to look into other statistics as well.
Wow when you have lost Brian Stelter you know that you screwed up. However I’m leery about them finally admitting the truth that we have known all along. First they admitted that the PCR tests aren’t worth a hill of beans and now finally admitting that there is a huge difference between WITH Covid and FROM it.
Even Newsweek has posted an article on how badly Fauci has screwed up by the doctors that he smeared for writing the Great Barrington Declaration. Just yesterday he admitted that we should be protecting the most vulnerable which is exactly what 60,000 doctors said right after the country was closed down. He needs to retire and if he won’t then Biden needs to fire him. And Walensky, but I think that’s a given. Somebody needs to get thrown under the bus.
@Shahryar
Of the 15 million spent by the NIH in GOF research, only $600,000 went to the Wuhan lab which was doing legitimate studies on bats since the SARS-CoV outbreak in China 2002. The rest was kept by EcoHealth Alliance owner Peter Daszak who spent it at several of the labs he ran in the US.
Developing effective and safe vaccines is urgently needed to prevent infection by severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)–associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV). The inactivated SARS-CoV vaccine may be the first one available for clinical use because it is easy to generate; however, safety is the main concern. The spike (S) protein of SARS-CoV is the major inducer of neutralizing antibodies, and the receptor-binding domain (RBD) in the S1 subunit of S protein contains multiple conformational neutralizing epitopes. This suggests that recombinant proteins containing RBD and vectors encoding the RBD sequence can be used to develop safe and effective SARS vaccines.
For your information China did eventually develop several inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccines which have proven to be quite safe as compared to the mRNA ones.
For additional information about the genesis of SARS-CoV-2 see my diary here in C99% for a detailed breakdown by Dr. David Martin (includes video and pdf):
so if they back off "covid's gonna get you!!" then that's a major step.
Hey, I read that DARPA thing. It fits with my thinking on the origins. To me, it's common sense that it came from the lab. That one over there. The one with the sign that says "virology" that's next to this wet market. You know, the place where they tinker with viruses.
fear factor. It’s been nonstop fear mongering since it started and they focused on case numbers with a faulty PCR test that they still used for months after telling us that it couldn’t differentiate between the flu and Covid. I wonder how much attention that got when it came out?
It’s sure looking like it came out of Wuhan. And that Fauci and his friends were doing something they shouldn’t have been. I’m not decided on whether it was accidentally or intentionally leaked yet, but I read about how Obama said that he shut down gain of function here because of the dangers, but he was fully aware of it being continued in Wuhan and elsewhere. It might have been in the zero hedges article I posted yesterday I think. I’ll try to find it again and will post if I do.
I don’t know if you saw that I posted this yesterday on the original article on what happen over there. It got talked about for a few days and then people moved on. I’m going to read it again and see what I’ve forgotten.
so if they back off "covid's gonna get you!!" then that's a major step.
Hey, I read that DARPA thing. It fits with my thinking on the origins. To me, it's common sense that it came from the lab. That one over there. The one with the sign that says "virology" that's next to this wet market. You know, the place where they tinker with viruses.
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Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
I think this got missed yesterday between the 2 essays, but it goes into detail on what happened with gain of function during Obama. Links to the snippets are posted in the main article.
[FN¹ SOURCE – U.S. Government Gain-of-Function Deliberative Process and Research Funding Pause on Selected Gain-of-Function Research Involving Influenza, MERS, and SARS Viruses – pdf, page 2 – October 17, 2014]
Timeline:
♦ October 17, 2014 – U.S. funding of SARS to create a biological weapon was paused due to the extreme risk of a pandemic. However, the pause allowed agencies within the U.S. government to continue funding if they determined “the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security.” [LINK]
♦ 2014 through 2020 the Pentagon continued funding research in Wuhan, China. Fear of discovery would explain why many top officials in the U.S. Defense Department were against the Trump administration [with increased severity after the COVID pandemic began]. [LINK]
♦ May 2016 – [An Election Year] – “after thorough deliberation and extensive input from domestic and international stakeholders, the NSABB [National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity] issued its recommendations. NSABB’s central finding was that studies that are expected to enhance Potential Pandemic Pathogen (PPP) have potential benefits to public health but also entail significant risks. NSABB recommended that such studies warranted additional scrutiny prior to being funded.” Anthony Fauci is on the NSABB.
♦ January 9, 2017 – [Four Days after the Susan Rice Oval Office meeting with Obama, Biden, Comey, et al] – The Obama Administration re-authorizes funding for the creation of SARS biological weapons. “Adoption of these recommendations will satisfy the requirements for lifting the current moratorium on certain life sciences research that could enhance a pathogen’s virulence and/or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen (an enhanced PPP).“ [LINK]
Given the workarounds, exceptions and plausible deniability for the consequences, built into the original moratorium guidance in 2014, the defense department was operationally permitted to keep funding the biological weapons research in Wuhan, China. The 2014 ban was a funding moratorium in name only; however, it appears the funding for U.S. research in North Carolina was stopped.
What was reauthorized in 2017, just before President Trump took office, was the need to use “national security” as an excuse to continue the research. It also appears funding of SARS as a biological weapon inside the U.S. (North Carolina) was now permitted again.
REFERENCES SO FAR: – 2017 – Policy Guidelines from Obama Administration – 2014 – pdf link of Research Funding Pause – National Science Advisory Board (Wiki) – Pentagon Funding for SARS research 2013 through 2020.
If you accept that the Pentagon would never spend to develop a biological weapon in China (Wuhan Lab) unless they already had developed that weapon on their own (North Carolina Lab), then the question about the release of that weapon starts to take shape.
Remember, the State Department was looking into the origin until Joe Biden shut them down and redirected the goal to the Intelligence Community. In essence, Biden handed the mission to the Fourth Branch of Government. Not surprisingly, after a few months the IC said their results were “inconclusive.”
Here’s the damning information on ivermectin and HCQ. HCQ was bad mouthed because Trump talked about it but he couldn’t explain what it did. Then democrats and the media further made it seem like something bad just cuz he did.
If this gets verified then I think and hope some heads will roll because they deliberately let people die from no early treatments, no treatments once admitted and used only remdisiver and ventilators which had a very low chance of working.
so if they back off "covid's gonna get you!!" then that's a major step.
Hey, I read that DARPA thing. It fits with my thinking on the origins. To me, it's common sense that it came from the lab. That one over there. The one with the sign that says "virology" that's next to this wet market. You know, the place where they tinker with viruses.
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@Anya
Comprehensive and truthful indictement of the Evil that has overtaken us.
Udi Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and a leading Israeli immunologist, has taken the opportunity posed by the collapsing narrative to release this open letter to the authorities (this is a mechanical translation from the original Hebrew):
Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure.
In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.
You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.
You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007,” p. 26).
You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.
You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
You refused to adopt the “Great Barrington Declaration,” signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common-sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).
You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
Irreversible damage to trust
However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.
There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and consciousness engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.
we wouldn’t get the Rona eh? Nope. Anyone who is spouting that they were always to prevent hospitalization and lesser symptoms has drunk their kool-aid. They said it before they saw the vaccines collapsing on them.
prevent infection and was a "miracle drug". Then he and others who took it, and got "the Rona". Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
we wouldn’t get the Rona eh? Nope. Anyone who is spouting that they were always to prevent hospitalization and lesser symptoms has drunk their kool-aid. They said it before they saw the vaccines collapsing on them.
Did he take it before he got it or after? There is a difference which should be obvious. Do you take antibiotics before you get an infection or after? Hundreds of doctors have been treating thousands of their patients with it and they have not only kept them from being hospitalized, but have saved their lives. You should look at what was discovered yesterday from the department of defense. It’s been known since April 2020 that ivermectin is very effective in treatment. CB and I posted about it yesterday, but here you go.
If we didn’t have a Pfizer captured media it would have been all they talked about yesterday. You can ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn’t make it not true. I hope you have some good recipes and I hope you aren’t expecting me to suddenly wake up one day and see that by golly Malone was a fraud all along. It ain’t going to happen no matter how many hit jobs you post on him.
If you want to criticize the source go for it. It actually came from project veritas.
prevent infection and was a "miracle drug". Then he and others who took it, and got "the Rona". Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
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Did he take it before he got it or after? There is a difference which should be obvious. Do you take antibiotics before you get an infection or after? Hundreds of doctors have been treating thousands of their patients with it and they have not only kept them from being hospitalized, but have saved their lives. You should look at what was discovered yesterday from the department of defense. It’s been known since April 2020 that ivermectin is very effective in treatment. CB and I posted about it yesterday, but here you go.
If we didn’t have a Pfizer captured media it would have been all they talked about yesterday. You can ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn’t make it not true. I hope you have some good recipes and I hope you aren’t expecting me to suddenly wake up one day and see that by golly Malone was a fraud all along. It ain’t going to happen no matter how many hit jobs you post on him.
If you want to criticize the source go for it. It actually came from project veritas.
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reduces and ameliorates complications from COVID-19. The FLCCC protocols have been modified since Kory was infected. Kory and his daughter recovered quickly.
Compare to doing nothing but stay home, isolate and go to the hospital if breathing becomes difficult. That's what the CDC advises.
The FLCCC protocol has a fantastic PROVEN record of reducing the disease. The following is real time/real world verification of the efficacy of ivermectin:
USA Deaths/million 2,596 Population 333,971,837 Total deaths 867,064 (ivermectin banned)
India Deaths/million 346 Population 1,400,754,116 Total deaths 484,746 (ivermectin used in 75% of provinces)
(Note: The numbers for India would even be lower if some of the provincial governments controlled by Modi's political party had not banned the use of ivermectin. These provinces are now taking the responsible parties to court. Some are demanding that the death penalty be imposed.)
If India had the same death rate as the United States their death toll would now be 3,636,996 instead of 484,746 - that's a saving of 3,152,250 lives AND untold millions of permanently COVID damaged people.
Background: Ivermectin is one among several potential drugs explored for its therapeutic and preventive role in SARS-CoV-2 infection. The study was aimed to explore the association between ivermectin prophylaxis and the development of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers.
... Conclusion: Two-dose ivermectin prophylaxis at a dose of 300 μg/kg with a gap of 72 hours was associated with a 73% reduction of SARS-CoV-2 infection among healthcare workers for the following month. Chemoprophylaxis has relevance in the containment of pandemic.
Introduction Healthcare workers (HCWs) are vulnerable to getting infected with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Preventing HCWs from getting infected is a priority to maintain healthcare services. The therapeutic and preventive role of ivermectin in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is being investigated. Based on promising results of in vitro studies of oral ivermectin, this study was conducted with the aim to demonstrate the prophylactic role of oral ivermectin in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection among HCWs at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) Bhubaneswar.
Methods A prospective cohort study was conducted at AIIMS Bhubaneswar, which has been providing both COVID and non-COVID care since March 2020. All employees and students of the institute who provided written informed consent participated in the study. The uptake of two doses of oral ivermectin (300 μg/kg/dose at a gap of 72 hours) was considered as exposure. The primary outcome of the study was COVID-19 infection in the following month of ivermectin consumption, diagnosed as per Government of India testing criteria (real-time reverse transcriptase polymerase chain reaction [RT-PCR]) guidelines. The log-binomial model was used to estimate adjusted relative risk (ARR), and the Kaplan-Meier failure plot was used to estimate the probability of COVID-19 infection with follow-up time.
Results Of 3892 employees, 3532 (90.8%) participated in the study. The ivermectin uptake was 62.5% and 5.3% for two doses and single dose, respectively. Participants who took ivermectin prophylaxis had a lower risk of getting symptoms suggestive of SARS-CoV-2 infection (6% vs 15%). HCWs who had taken two doses of oral ivermectin had a significantly lower risk of contracting COVID-19 infection during the following month (ARR 0.17; 95% CI, 0.12-0.23). Females had a lower risk of contracting COVID-19 than males (ARR 0.70; 95% CI, 0.52-0.93). The absolute risk reduction of SARS-CoV-2 infection was 9.7%. Only 1.8% of the participants reported adverse events, which were mild and self-limiting.
Conclusion Two doses of oral ivermectin (300 μg/kg/dose given 72 hours apart) as chemoprophylaxis among HCWs reduced the risk of COVID-19 infection by 83% in the following month. Safe, effective, and low-cost chemoprophylaxis has relevance in the containment of pandemic alongside vaccine.
I've got about 80 of these reports about your "horse dewormer". Do you want me to post all of them?
But just make stuff up. Since you made the claim you can show me ALL the times I’ve mentioned him. But I’m very sure that he knows how and when to take it since it was he and his group of doctors that came up with the protocol. You just deny that it works. Over and over unless you’re doing ANOTHER hit job on Malone.
solution to treating Covid didn't work for him. He and his daughter got Covid while taking Ivermectin. This is the kind of stuff that puts a hole in much of the narratives around here. If one can't admit in the face of facts that people like Kory have made some rather untrue statements, then other information shared by the anti covid vax crowd loses its validity. It's like RFK Jr. and his denial of the proofs that childhood vaccines do not cause autism. His insistence on ignoring that proof has put him in a position of being viewed as un-credible when it comes to science.... except of course for his followers who see him as almost god-like.
But just make stuff up. Since you made the claim you can show me ALL the times I’ve mentioned him. But I’m very sure that he knows how and when to take it since it was he and his group of doctors that came up with the protocol. You just deny that it works. Over and over unless you’re doing ANOTHER hit job on Malone.
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Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
People who have been double jabbed and boosted are home sick and it’s wreaking havoc everywhere. How do you not know that? And yes the jabbed have a higher chance of infection than the unjabbed. It’s been reported all week.
prevent infection and was a "miracle drug". Then he and others who took it, and got "the Rona". Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
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Your government will allow it to happen though.
are having more infections, but the unvaccinated still have much higher numbers...If you look at hospitalizations the picture is clear. It is impossible to tell what the numbers are in the general population who are getting covid and just not reporting it or getting tested.
There are graphs illustrating the points. This data is from New York and Seattle, but the article also includes links to data from Boston and Chicago.
"Some of the timeliest data on Covid-19 outcomes by vaccination status comes from New York City and the Seattle area, and the two are telling a consistent story.
Cases for vaccinated and unvaccinated residents alike are rising:
They’re rising because vaccination often does not prevent infection from the Omicron variant. It reduces the chances substantially — as you can see above — but vaccinated people still face a meaningful chance of infection. What vaccination does is radically reduce the chance of severe Covid illness. Look how different these charts on hospitalizations looks from the previous charts on cases:"
"The death gap
The data on deaths from New York and Seattle underscores the relatively low risks for vaccinated people. These numbers show a starker gap between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated than the hospitalization data....."
"But the early data raises the possibility that the increase in deaths among the vaccinated will remain relatively modest. The gap in the mortality charts above can’t merely be a reflection of the lag between the cases and deaths. After all, deaths among unvaccinated New Yorkers and Seattleites had already begun to surge in December. Deaths among the vaccinated had not."
"The bottom line
Vaccination remains highly effective at preventing severe Covid illnesses. And Omicron is milder than earlier versions of the virus. The combination means that most Americans — including children and vaccinated adults — face little personal risk from Omicron.
The risk is not zero, to be clear, even among people who are generally healthy. But it is very small. Every day, people live with small risks, be they from the seasonal flu and other illnesses or from riding in a vehicle, playing sports or other activities.
For the unvaccinated, the situation is very different. Omicron is still severe enough that it will lead to debilitating illness and death for many unvaccinated people. In much of the U.S., a large number of adults — including older adults — remain unvaccinated:"
If you dismiss this because it's from the NYTimes, then you are certainly welcome to check on their sources or find other sources for the stats. However, it has been established that vaccinated people do much better overall than unvaccinated with all of the variants that have come to fruition.
"LEXINGTON, Ky. (WKYT) - Lexington-Fayette County Health Department reported 894 new COVID-19 cases yesterday with a 7-day rolling average of at least 700 new cases per day.
The COVID-19 vaccine continues to be effective in keeping people from serious illness, including hospitalizations.
There are currently 126 Fayette County residents hospitalized, with 84% of them unvaccinated. More than half of the hospitalizations (67) are ages 18-64, with 94% unvaccinated.
Of the 24 Fayette County residents in Intensive Care Units, 92% are unvaccinated. There are 16 people who are currently on a ventilator, with 94% unvaccinated."
Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
People who have been double jabbed and boosted are home sick and it’s wreaking havoc everywhere. How do you not know that? And yes the jabbed have a higher chance of infection than the unjabbed. It’s been reported all week.
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It’s the complete opposite where more vaxxed people are in hospital and seriously more ill. You can’t ignore facts that go against what you believe, but apparently it’s easy for you to do.
are having more infections, but the unvaccinated still have much higher numbers...If you look at hospitalizations the picture is clear. It is impossible to tell what the numbers are in the general population who are getting covid and just not reporting it or getting tested.
There are graphs illustrating the points. This data is from New York and Seattle, but the article also includes links to data from Boston and Chicago.
"Some of the timeliest data on Covid-19 outcomes by vaccination status comes from New York City and the Seattle area, and the two are telling a consistent story.
Cases for vaccinated and unvaccinated residents alike are rising:
They’re rising because vaccination often does not prevent infection from the Omicron variant. It reduces the chances substantially — as you can see above — but vaccinated people still face a meaningful chance of infection. What vaccination does is radically reduce the chance of severe Covid illness. Look how different these charts on hospitalizations looks from the previous charts on cases:"
"The death gap
The data on deaths from New York and Seattle underscores the relatively low risks for vaccinated people. These numbers show a starker gap between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated than the hospitalization data....."
"But the early data raises the possibility that the increase in deaths among the vaccinated will remain relatively modest. The gap in the mortality charts above can’t merely be a reflection of the lag between the cases and deaths. After all, deaths among unvaccinated New Yorkers and Seattleites had already begun to surge in December. Deaths among the vaccinated had not."
"The bottom line
Vaccination remains highly effective at preventing severe Covid illnesses. And Omicron is milder than earlier versions of the virus. The combination means that most Americans — including children and vaccinated adults — face little personal risk from Omicron.
The risk is not zero, to be clear, even among people who are generally healthy. But it is very small. Every day, people live with small risks, be they from the seasonal flu and other illnesses or from riding in a vehicle, playing sports or other activities.
For the unvaccinated, the situation is very different. Omicron is still severe enough that it will lead to debilitating illness and death for many unvaccinated people. In much of the U.S., a large number of adults — including older adults — remain unvaccinated:"
If you dismiss this because it's from the NYTimes, then you are certainly welcome to check on their sources or find other sources for the stats. However, it has been established that vaccinated people do much better overall than unvaccinated with all of the variants that have come to fruition.
"LEXINGTON, Ky. (WKYT) - Lexington-Fayette County Health Department reported 894 new COVID-19 cases yesterday with a 7-day rolling average of at least 700 new cases per day.
The COVID-19 vaccine continues to be effective in keeping people from serious illness, including hospitalizations.
There are currently 126 Fayette County residents hospitalized, with 84% of them unvaccinated. More than half of the hospitalizations (67) are ages 18-64, with 94% unvaccinated.
Of the 24 Fayette County residents in Intensive Care Units, 92% are unvaccinated. There are 16 people who are currently on a ventilator, with 94% unvaccinated."
prevent infection and was a "miracle drug". Then he and others who took it, and got "the Rona". Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
@snoopydawg
As a male of advanced age I find the central figure quite threatening.
we wouldn’t get the Rona eh? Nope. Anyone who is spouting that they were always to prevent hospitalization and lesser symptoms has drunk their kool-aid. They said it before they saw the vaccines collapsing on them.
I have been following serious Covid precautions since word started leaking out at the end of 2019. I won't speak for anyone else but what I've been doing works for me. Plus, I live in Floridumb.
**I have gotten the vaccines and booster (Moderna). Was shocked when the only side effect was 48 hours of slight tenderness around the point of injection.
** I wear a Covid mask inside unless windows and doors are wide open allowing constant fresh air.
**I do not go inside social areas like the grocery store, pharmacy, etc. without being fully masked.
**On the second item, I am referring to eating establishments, 7-11s, etc. I rarely go to them.
**I take vitamin D3, C, B-12 and Zinc for preventive maintenance, health-wise. These boost and strengthen the immune system. More and experts are advising folks to take them.
These precautions have worked. I also keep myself fully updated on the viruses. This is not an easy task due to all of the deliberate misinformation, and politicizing which is insane and wrong. These are highly contagious diseases which can kill. Enough said and Rec'd!!
Although I live in Florida, I'm near the Alabama line so I watch local news from Dothan. They had to close down their schools because of Covid. Not just teachers and students, but they don't have enough bus drivers or nurses. The Omnicron is so easily transmitted that everyone is testing positive. That is why they keep changing the quarantine time because if everyone was tested, the entire country would shut down.
I believe that I already had it around New Year's. But there was no place to get tested at that time. Have no idea anymore what you are supposed to do. The TV keeps telling me that I am 17 times more likely to get it and 20 times more likely to be hospitalized.
There are studies out that state if you have recovered from some variant of the Covid, your immune system is better able to defend against re-infection than those who have been vaxxed. Also, the new strain of Omicron is more like the common cold, as were the other SARS variants more like the endemic flu. Medical science seems to have found a way to identify normal colds and flu strains as
a scary covidis, therefore pushing vaccines, distancing, lockdowns, mandates and passports. It sounds very fishy to me. This is a politicized medical / governmental overreach. A new way to gain control over social behavior, IMO.
Although I live in Florida, I'm near the Alabama line so I watch local news from Dothan. They had to close down their schools because of Covid. Not just teachers and students, but they don't have enough bus drivers or nurses. The Omnicron is so easily transmitted that everyone is testing positive. That is why they keep changing the quarantine time because if everyone was tested, the entire country would shut down.
I believe that I already had it around New Year's. But there was no place to get tested at that time. Have no idea anymore what you are supposed to do. The TV keeps telling me that I am 17 times more likely to get it and 20 times more likely to be hospitalized.
from the Colorado Department of Public Health offering me the ability to anonymously share my Covid test results, presumably from my Monday retest:
Anonymously share your COVID test to CO Exposure Notifications & help your community. Your link https://us-co.en.express/v?c=(redacted) —CDPHE
Got one of those messages last week as well, about 12 hours before the testing company sent me the first email officially confirming that I was positive. Thanks, but no thanks: I don't click on unsolicited links, ever. They clearly already have the results in any case- otherwise, why text me?
So I'll treat this, once again, as foreshadowing. I suspect that I'll get the official confirmation from the testing company later today. So it would appear that I was/am still positive on the order of 10 days in, still coughing, and still dealing with a sore throat (although less coughing and less sore every day). And still not dead.
Meanwhile, bubbling on the stove: a dutch oven full of fresh potsticker soup. This uses bagged, frozen grocery store potstickers as dumplings, but the green's the thing: ginger, green onions, ginger, brussels sprouts, ginger, celery, ginger, garlic, ginger... It's even better without the potstickers, frankly- pick good ones to honor the greenery.
1/2 pound chinese or napa cabbage (or brussels sprouts, in a pinch, as today), thinly sliced
2 celery ribs, thinly sliced
2 medium carrots , cut into matchsticks
1/3 cup thinly sliced green onions
2 to 3 tablespoons soy sauce
2 tablespoons rice vinegar (we triple it)
3 garlic cloves , minced (we triple it)
2 teaspoons minced fresh ginger root (fresh only, we at least double it: grab a big chunk and wail on it)
1/2 teaspoon sesame oil
6 cups chicken stock
More ginger, garlic, vinegar, pepper and/or hot oil to taste. Keep dumping good stuff of your choice in until the pot threatens to overflow.
In a 4-qt. slow cooker, combine the first nine ingredients. Stir in stock. Cook, covered, on low until vegetables are tender, 5-6 hours. Add potstickers; cook, covered, on high until heated through, 15-20 minutes. If desired, sprinkle with chow mein noodles before serving.
This recipe ought to be one of those classic "nail soups" that every beginning cook should learn. It is asian-inspired, originally, but can be steered cajun without a second thought (as an excuse to use up some green peppers to complete the trinity, and maybe some serranos, on top of a bacon roux aw jeez don't get me started...). Can also be drunk warm as a toddy for medicinal purposes, with the addition of a good solid shot or three of your spirit of choice. Not that I'm saying I've ever done such a thing, of course.
Have you tried the diluted iodine tincture gargle?
I swear by it!
from the Colorado Department of Public Health offering me the ability to anonymously share my Covid test results, presumably from my Monday retest:
Anonymously share your COVID test to CO Exposure Notifications & help your community. Your link https://us-co.en.express/v?c=(redacted) —CDPHE
Got one of those messages last week as well, about 12 hours before the testing company sent me the first email officially confirming that I was positive. Thanks, but no thanks: I don't click on unsolicited links, ever. They clearly already have the results in any case- otherwise, why text me?
So I'll treat this, once again, as foreshadowing. I suspect that I'll get the official confirmation from the testing company later today. So it would appear that I was/am still positive on the order of 10 days in, still coughing, and still dealing with a sore throat (although less coughing and less sore every day). And still not dead.
Meanwhile, bubbling on the stove: a dutch oven full of fresh potsticker soup. This uses bagged, frozen grocery store potstickers as dumplings, but the green's the thing: ginger, green onions, ginger, brussels sprouts, ginger, celery, ginger, garlic, ginger... It's even better without the potstickers, frankly- pick good ones to honor the greenery.
1/2 pound chinese or napa cabbage (or brussels sprouts, in a pinch, as today), thinly sliced
2 celery ribs, thinly sliced
2 medium carrots , cut into matchsticks
1/3 cup thinly sliced green onions
2 to 3 tablespoons soy sauce
2 tablespoons rice vinegar (we triple it)
3 garlic cloves , minced (we triple it)
2 teaspoons minced fresh ginger root (fresh only, we at least double it: grab a big chunk and wail on it)
1/2 teaspoon sesame oil
6 cups chicken stock
More ginger, garlic, vinegar, pepper and/or hot oil to taste. Keep dumping good stuff of your choice in until the pot threatens to overflow.
In a 4-qt. slow cooker, combine the first nine ingredients. Stir in stock. Cook, covered, on low until vegetables are tender, 5-6 hours. Add potstickers; cook, covered, on high until heated through, 15-20 minutes. If desired, sprinkle with chow mein noodles before serving.
This recipe ought to be one of those classic "nail soups" that every beginning cook should learn. It is asian-inspired, originally, but can be steered cajun without a second thought (as an excuse to use up some green peppers to complete the trinity, and maybe some serranos, on top of a bacon roux aw jeez don't get me started...). Can also be drunk warm as a toddy for medicinal purposes, with the addition of a good solid shot or three of your spirit of choice. Not that I'm saying I've ever done such a thing, of course.
from the Colorado Department of Public Health offering me the ability to anonymously share my Covid test results, presumably from my Monday retest:
Anonymously share your COVID test to CO Exposure Notifications & help your community. Your link https://us-co.en.express/v?c=(redacted) —CDPHE
Got one of those messages last week as well, about 12 hours before the testing company sent me the first email officially confirming that I was positive. Thanks, but no thanks: I don't click on unsolicited links, ever. They clearly already have the results in any case- otherwise, why text me?
So I'll treat this, once again, as foreshadowing. I suspect that I'll get the official confirmation from the testing company later today. So it would appear that I was/am still positive on the order of 10 days in, still coughing, and still dealing with a sore throat (although less coughing and less sore every day). And still not dead.
Meanwhile, bubbling on the stove: a dutch oven full of fresh potsticker soup. This uses bagged, frozen grocery store potstickers as dumplings, but the green's the thing: ginger, green onions, ginger, brussels sprouts, ginger, celery, ginger, garlic, ginger... It's even better without the potstickers, frankly- pick good ones to honor the greenery.
1/2 pound chinese or napa cabbage (or brussels sprouts, in a pinch, as today), thinly sliced
2 celery ribs, thinly sliced
2 medium carrots , cut into matchsticks
1/3 cup thinly sliced green onions
2 to 3 tablespoons soy sauce
2 tablespoons rice vinegar (we triple it)
3 garlic cloves , minced (we triple it)
2 teaspoons minced fresh ginger root (fresh only, we at least double it: grab a big chunk and wail on it)
1/2 teaspoon sesame oil
6 cups chicken stock
More ginger, garlic, vinegar, pepper and/or hot oil to taste. Keep dumping good stuff of your choice in until the pot threatens to overflow.
In a 4-qt. slow cooker, combine the first nine ingredients. Stir in stock. Cook, covered, on low until vegetables are tender, 5-6 hours. Add potstickers; cook, covered, on high until heated through, 15-20 minutes. If desired, sprinkle with chow mein noodles before serving.
This recipe ought to be one of those classic "nail soups" that every beginning cook should learn. It is asian-inspired, originally, but can be steered cajun without a second thought (as an excuse to use up some green peppers to complete the trinity, and maybe some serranos, on top of a bacon roux aw jeez don't get me started...). Can also be drunk warm as a toddy for medicinal purposes, with the addition of a good solid shot or three of your spirit of choice. Not that I'm saying I've ever done such a thing, of course.
last spoonful of the dregs from the bottom of the bowl (with the bigger chunks of ginger and the coarser chunks of pepper that settled out) is *heaven*... We'll be eating that for a few days here!
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
ICAN previously reported that Dr. Barney Graham, Deputy Director of the Vaccine Research Center at Fauci’s agency – the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) within the NIH – stands to earn millions from sales of the Moderna vaccine.
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ICAN recently received 292 pages of Dr. Graham’s emails. Unsurprisingly, many of the emails are heavily redacted, including an email between Dr. Graham and Moderna’s CEO, Stéphane Bancel! Why was this email redacted? Because NIH claims that it contains confidential commercial or financial information! In other words, the NIH thinks that Dr. Graham, who stands to earn millions from sales of the Moderna vaccine and who is simultaneously responsible for developing safe and effective vaccines, should be able to have confidential communications with Moderna’s CEO!
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In another email from April 2020, the NIH redacted communications between Dr. Graham and Ralph Baric, a professor at UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health with ties to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Why is this significant? Because the NIH recently admitted that taxpayer dollars were used to fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan. According to Senator Rand Paul, this type of research “can lead to viruses that cause pandemics.” If there is even a remote possibility that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could have leaked from the Wuhan lab, the government should not be able to hide any communications between its officials and scientists with ties to the Wuhan lab.
ICAN intends to challenge these inappropriate redactions and will continue to demand transparency from our federal health agencies – especially those poised to personally gain as a result of their government job.
January 11, 2022: European Medicines Agency admits that VAXXXINES and BOOSTERS will and do cause VACCINE ACQUIRED IMMUNODEFICIENCY SYNDROME (VAIDS). pic.twitter.com/UUoUqE6Ed1
cat is out of the bag
it's about time
takes a panel of otherwise
uninfluenced docs to lay out
the truth .. sorry kids - the vax
is not quite what was advertised
let's see how they squirm out of this one ..
January 11, 2022: European Medicines Agency admits that VAXXXINES and BOOSTERS will and do cause VACCINE ACQUIRED IMMUNODEFICIENCY SYNDROME (VAIDS). pic.twitter.com/UUoUqE6Ed1
and i posted about VAIDS a week ago. I wonder how well people are reading what’s posted in these essays? It’s easy to miss stuff but it seems like a lot is being missed. I’m just as bad at it too. Ima just saying.
cat is out of the bag
it's about time
takes a panel of otherwise
uninfluenced docs to lay out
the truth .. sorry kids - the vax
is not quite what was advertised
let's see how they squirm out of this one ..
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Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
and i posted about VAIDS a week ago. I wonder how well people are reading what’s posted in these essays? It’s easy to miss stuff but it seems like a lot is being missed. I’m just as bad at it too. Ima just saying.
be getting missed not to shame anyone just more of a heads up because it gets posted numerous days. I reread the day befores dose each day because I have found that things get posted at the same time and doesn’t show up new to me and I’ve missed seeing something that I got something out of. There’s a ton of info posted here every day so it’s easy to miss or like me..forget.
As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.
EU drug regulators, World Health Organization experts and the former chairman of the UK’s COVID task force all cited mounting evidence mRNA COVID boosters aren’t working and the strategy should be dropped.
European Union drug regulators on Tuesday warned frequent COVID boosters could adversely affect the immune system and said there are currently no data to support repeated doses.
This comes a month after EU drug regulators said it made sense to “administer COVID-19 vaccine boosters as early as three months after the initial two-shot regimen,” amid concerns over the Omicron variant.
According to the European Medicines Agency (EMA), continued booster doses every four months could pose a risk of overloading people’s immune systems and lead to fatigue.
Instead, the agency recommended countries space out the intervals between boosters and coordinate their programs with the onset of the cold season in each hemisphere — following blueprints of influenza vaccination strategies.
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“Even the mRNA vaccines cannot be cooked up and delivered fast enough to match whatever strain of virus becomes dominant,” Berenson said. “COVID is faster than the scientists.”
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Dix said there should be a shift to disease management from viral spreading, and “stopping progression to severe disease in vulnerable groups” should be the future objective.
and PET PEEVE: where can we get reliable and trustworthy information???????????????????? I commented on it earlier in this diary. The vaccines do NOT sterilize! They simply lessen the effects of the viruses. People have got to combine them with other precautionary measures.
@orlbucfan
If the subject comes up on the top of a Google search, in multiple mainstream outlets using the same phrasing message, I assume it is designed to reinforce a particular point of view, and that it is not a place where an unbiased explorations will be found.
So I then look further down the search results (or use a different search engine) until I find hits that question the prevailing narrative. There will be a host of knee jerk contrarian hits which quickly arrive at a contravening viewpoints with little or no exploration or discussion. I keep looking.
What I am looking for is honest questioning, as opposed to the rhetorical sort which simply lead to a different sort of prepackaged TV Dinneropinion. Questions often lead to a better understanding while ‘answers’ often function as question killers, whether they are actually true or not.
and PET PEEVE: where can we get reliable and trustworthy information???????????????????? I commented on it earlier in this diary. The vaccines do NOT sterilize! They simply lessen the effects of the viruses. People have got to combine them with other precautionary measures.
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“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
The key that the information is being manipulated was what Google did when people started looking up mass psychosis. Here’s what they posted:
Hold on the information is changing rapidly….so we’re updating as quickly as possible.
Paraphrasing, but when has that EVER been done? Search results are well search results, but it’s what was the top results after they figured it out that told the tale. It was something some anti vax made up so you can discount it. Do one now and see what comes up.
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If the subject comes up on the top of a Google search, in multiple mainstream outlets using the same phrasing message, I assume it is designed to reinforce a particular point of view, and that it is not a place where an unbiased explorations will be found.
So I then look further down the search results (or use a different search engine) until I find hits that question the prevailing narrative. There will be a host of knee jerk contrarian hits which quickly arrive at a contravening viewpoints with little or no exploration or discussion. I keep looking.
What I am looking for is honest questioning, as opposed to the rhetorical sort which simply lead to a different sort of prepackaged TV Dinneropinion. Questions often lead to a better understanding while ‘answers’ often function as question killers, whether they are actually true or not.
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Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
exhaustion of the immune response as people age. Beta-coronavirus infection is also cumulative in a very negative way. Its nuts to keep on boosting vaccines forever. That seems almost guaranteed to lead to big problems. We have to change the way we live to adjust to the new normal of much of the workforce, millions perhaps even billions of people traveling all around the world in just a few hours perhaps multiple times a year. Thats the new corporate business model they are determined to implement, soon. We cant prevent our most essential workers (soon) from spending at least a few days of quality time each year with their families. The era of people working where they grew up and currently have roots is ending. Thats too expensive. Instead they must trade places to divest them of rights, for business to be "sustainable" Dig?
Look up ADE (antigen dependent enhancement) of coronavirus and also "Antigenic Original Sin" for some background.
Look up "information jerrymandering" on social networks for example.
Its been a very long time since Page Rank was the sole algorithm they used.
Disclosure, I have done extensive research professionally (in the distant past, when it was a lot smaller and quite different than it is today) on how various aspects of the Internet worked. Including on search engines and the theory behind them.
The usual rules dont apply when a country has made WTO commitments. For one thing, the people cant decide to break the agreement, for anyreason. The countries have already put it off the table. So its easy to see how they might want to conceal any information which would lead other than the desired outcomes.
This is most certainly whats going on. The government has already decided on a huge number of things and they arent things that politicians could do, so they hide them
Frankly the government has to only do things that increase corporate profits. Its literally prohibited from allowing anything that might reduce their profits. Its a deal between governments and investors to protect their property.
Look up the phrases "indirect expropriation" and "ISDS" to better understand what has changed and why.
A democracy is a government where representative government gives the people functional control over policies but as long as they have control over candidates and candidates swear to not change anything like that they can be fairly certain candidates wont do anything that will get the government sued for "indirect expropriation".
Please discuss this "indirect expropriation" so I can see that people have read this, and that it hasn't been ghosted. Thank you.
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Beginning Saturday in D.C.
You must show your papers lo leave your home.
Outrageous.
question everything
So, it’s house arrest for the unvaxed, whatever that means?
This edict is absurd on its face, unconstitutional, and medically unethical. It will accomplish no useful public health goal whatsoever.
Of course it will be embraced by the blindly obedient who will mistakenly believe it to be necessary to protect their own personal health and well being. Fact checkers will assure us that it is so. End of discussion.
Hopefully it is The Onion having a laugh on us?
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Perhaps the news I read this AM was a bit misleading
https://coronavirus.dc.gov/vaxdc
question everything
Still, "papers please" has a chilling ring to it;
can you get out of jury service by not having vax card? Subpoena?
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
How about going for your driver's license
test and photo? Or to a doctor's office? Insurance office? Bank? Grocery store? Pharmacy? Any court appearance, whether to fight a traffic ticket, or adopt a child? How in hell is this mandate supposed to work? Suppose I am compliant, and I am in the 2 weeks process of getting the first and second shot, and some court date intervenes? Does this apply to going to see your lawyer?
This will be an enormous interruption of lives, and normal systems and processes to take care of yourself, your family, and to comply with all law.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good afternoon otc.
Pretty much my thoughts Xackly. Reminds me of all of the necessary interactions with various bureaucracies and the judicial system that faced the mobility impaired back in the sixties and seventies (and, truth be told, still) causing them to suffer worse hassles due to their involuntary non-compliance with this, that, and the other.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
My late husband was a paraplegic.
This was back in the 80s before ramps and elevators were commonly installed. There were so many ordinary things he could not do easily, if at all.
This might stop deliveries to grocery stores, pharmacies...I could go on, but it just doesn't seem at all practical, even if it had a positive effect on stopping the spread of the virus. If a person can't drive, the store has no food, so somebody tell me, how does this raise a communities' general quality of life?
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Defeat the Mandates...
https://defeatthemandatesdc.com/
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 diverse people from across the globe will peacefully march in their capitals against COVID mandates, vaccine passports & division. These World Wide Rallies for Freedom occur every two months and we’ve scheduled our march to align with this growing international movement.
https://worldwidedemonstration.com/
Bet the new DC mandate is in response to the upcoming rally.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
That's a good bet.
They may need the Nat. Guard to enforce that one.
question everything
Either that or the end of the original vaccine EUA’s,
which expire on January 15. There are a lot of moving pieces on the game board, including multiple court challenges on mandates and a growing erosion of confidence in vaccine efficacy among the general population.
Something pivotal is brewing behind the scenes, and I have no idea exactly what that might be, but I’m pretty sure I’m not going to like it. At all.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Word is getting out...
that vaccine efficacy wanes, and omicron is manageable from home with D, Zn, Iodine, and so on. I don't see how TPTB can continue to push the mandates when almost everyone understands the vaxed can catch and spread COVID. The harder they push the more people are waking to the real goal...control. That's my hope anyway.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
How would the mandate affect the rally?
nt
Guess it wouldn't if it is only restrictive to
indoor venues?
question everything
I love the "free to pray" part.
Just when have people been barred from praying during Covid?
Would have liked it if these sponsoring groups had put their energy into rallying for women's reproductive freedom. Now THAT'S a true personal choice issue because it isn't a community health issue. Abd it is a freedom that is truly threatened.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
abd should be and... finger stumble!
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
It appears as if the "5 eyes", Commonwealth and EU
countries are pushing this totalitarian mandate regime some countries seem to be getting that maybe Omicron might be Covid's ending. Here are examples of Canada and Scotland going the globalist route while Spain seems to get that Covid might just be Flu like.
https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2022/01/debt-rattle-january-12-2022/
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/quebec-working-on-new-significant...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10388923/Scots-wear-facemasks-p...
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4442276/spain-debates-giving-covid-flu-status/
Adding, OH MY!
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Eh, quasi, as in some unknown quantity of uncertainty.
Sounds like direct application to "some" primate cells in petri dishes. Some cells of some kinds from some species of primates. Results in "strong" (undefined) effect.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
I don't know if Omicron
will turn out to be mild or not. But I see nothing wrong with a play-it-as-safe-as-possible approach. In healthcare that approach is called the precautionary principle and is embodied in the idea of 'universal precautions'. It is just the idea that you regard all of your patients as potentially contagious and take basic precautions to protect yourself (as the caregiver) as well as them.
I think that's a reasonable approach to take to Covid and all its variants. Our society is not even doing the easy basics. We are not ensuring a supply of the best masks, even though that would not be hard to do. We refuse to improve ventilation and act like it is such an expense. We send our kids into overcrowded classrooms instead of trying to implement better ways to provide their schooling. We could use a remote learning option, but school officials don't want to. It seems to me we are not even trying to respond to this crisis even with very basic adjustments .
We would rather risk the health of our people and future generations than use our brains to adjust to new circumstances. No, we can not go back to the old way of doing things. Yes, we have to make changes in order to protect ourselves. It really is that simple. Why don't we just do it already?
Some of the kids know we can and must do things differently. They are walking out of classes in NY.
Some teachers and parents know this as well.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/01/12/nyci-j12.html
The absurdity of carrying on as if nothing has changed and everything is O.K. is mind boggling to me.
I think kids should be in school...
Healthy children DO NOT get severe illness. No healthy children have died of COVID only those with comorbidities (which were the likely cause of death). There is a social cost to children who don't socialize and can't see faces to learn facial communication skills. A year ago I would have agreed to the closures, but with my current understanding, I would open schools.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/the-kids-were-safe-from-covid-th...
Additionally, I think vaccines are not a good idea for kids.
Masks probably aren't helpful either....
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/dishonesty-about-masking-kids-re...
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
We have wreaked havoc on our kids
I agree with your conclusions.
Children should be in school. The deprivation of normal human contacts and fear installation, instead of education, we have subjected this generation to, will reverberate throughout our country for generations to come----if there are generations to come.
NYCVG
I have to disagree
. I think the medical community is seeing large numbers of people becoming ill and that they are overwhelmed and have to triage care in ways that are more stringent than before. I do understand that part of this is because we have shuttered hospitals and reduced staff.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/01/hospitals-nationwide-are-bucklin...
All I know is if I had school-age children they would not be going to an overcrowded school with substandard ventilation and with other students with poorly fitted masks. Possibly covid doesn't hurt children, but I have read too much about long covid, asymptomatic infection and spread to send a kid into that environment. The refusal of those in positions of power to take basic steps to mitigate transmission is appalling. I just don't accept it.
You're OK with kids dying if they have comorbidities?
You just brush them off like that?
Your answer is in the fine print:
I was replying to her callous comment
about sending kids to school because only kids with comorbidities will die as if that's just no biggie to her. It's utterly monstrous.
Your reply to me has nothing to do with the topic.
How do you intend to protect
children with comorbidity? What are the specific remedial actions you would take to prevent such children getting infected by SARS-CoV-2? What are the demographics of these children? How many in an average school? What are their comorbidities?
Again, unresponsive comment.
I was pointing out her cavalier attitude about children DYING by sending them to school.
Your flurry of questions is not responding to that. I am not an epidemiologist or infectious disease specialist or public health official who is qualified to answer your questions, but there are countries who have managed the pandemic successfully (Viet Nam, China, others) so it is possible to do it without knowingly sending vulnerable children to their death. The US chose not to implement strong public health measures; while claiming to "believe the science," they failed to *act* on the science.
You cannot extrapolate China's
response to COVID-19. There are very few countries that will tolerate the complete and total lockdown of entire cities let alone just a school. China has done both as conditions have warranted. China also makes extensive use of a wide variety of medicines to treat the various aspects of the disease in every patient instead the US "one size fits all" - do nothing until you either recover or your lips turn blue.
As far as Vietnam goes, they are following the west - vaccination and masking - both of which are almost completely useless for preventing COVID-19 infection. Children with comorbidity need to be completely isolated from the regular children until the pandemic has ended UNLESS the US starts to allow prophylactics that have been proven to be efficacious in preventing the damaging effect of the disease if applied at the onset (or even before such as ensuring they are getting vitamin D, zinc and other prophylactics we have discussed here at The Dose). Now THAT would be a worthwhile thing to be doing for the school children in America. It would cost less than the pencils, crayons and paper they use daily.
The CDC only offers vaccination, masking, physical isolation and waiting until the disease either resolves itself or their lips turn blue and they are admitted to hospital to then be given "Run... death is near" - Remdesivir (yes, that is on their authorized list to treat children) along with ventilators.
But Viet Nam are protecting their children better than we are:
Vietnam is going to come in for a rude awakening once they learn the vaccinations are not the panacea they have been awaiting.
Sweden didn’t close down and kept schools open
and not one kid died. Weird how the media doesn’t talk about this success story.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
But I'm not talking about vaccinating kids
. I wouldn't do that either. I'm only talking about using all the mitigation measures that are feasible and that many teachers have been asking for for at least a year now.
I would quibble with this blanket statement:
it can't be disproved
it contains two undefinad and likely undefinable terms "helthy" and "severe"
a lot of seemingly quite healthy kids caught polio and the so-called "asian flu", also scarlet fever and rubella. Probably the Spanish Flu too, but that was before my time.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Each of the diseases you mention
affect different age groups. Ordinary influenza affects more children as does polio. The 1918 pandemic mainly affected the 30 to 40 age group while leaving children relatively unscathed. COVID-19 hits the elderly most of all as well as does pneumonia.
You can view the CDC stats here: (take note that the CDC started to group ALL deaths by pneumonia, influenza and COVID-19 as PIC deaths - and use that value when discussing COVID-19 total deaths. I did a post on that slight-of-hand when I discovered it last summer. It only served to show more deaths and why there was the mysterious missing influenza deaths in the 2020/2021 winter.)
I was arguing that I am unsure
, if children are as immune to this contagious variant and as resilient from becoming seriously ill as people are saying. I know what many have said regarding the data that suggest that children recover from covid readily. I know that there are no pediatric deaths from covid without comorbidities. But what if they get covid once then again and possibly many more times? We really do not know what will happen. Nobody knows at this point. I don't think you can argue that we know.
My main point is that many teachers and support staff have been asking for the schools to use all the mitigation tools that we can to keep the schools as safe as possible. We have absolutely not done that. Now many of the kids and young people don't feel the schools are safe either. I think it is terrible that we don't listen to them.
What do you think we should do
for the kids going to school?
Here's some more up to date info for you
There are also a number of other studies with similar outcomes at the bottom of the following link. Keep in mind that the study of SARS-CoV-2 is only just beginning as this disease has only been around for less than two years so there are ongoing studies. But the results of persistence of anti-bodies looks promising.
I spent a bit of the morning reading this article
on the history of the development of mRNA over the many years it has been studied. It talks about Robert Malone's role in the early years and takes the story through all the players and science tech companies that have contributed over time. nRNA presented a lot of challenges to researchers and how they overcame them is pretty fascinating. With all the wrangling between companies with patent issues etc. it's a wonder it got to the point it did leading up to the arrival of coronavirus. I highly recommend it.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
It is too bad the first real time application
of the mRNA therapy was to use it in mass delivery of a protein into billions of humans that is proving to be harmful to their well-being and health. It will take a decade to research the damage that was done. This is the consequences of human greed and lust for control and power.
I'm thinking that if there will be a Noble Prize winner for the mRNA 'vaccine' in 2022 they may end up regretting that they were responsible for creating a nightmare scenario of a magnitude hitherto unimaginable to mankind.
The mRNA manufacturers say the S1 sub-unit containing the receptor binding domain (RBD) that attaches to the ACE2 receptors cannot fuse with the cell membrane due the (purposely designed) locked cleavage site connecting the S2 sub-unit. Unfortunately there were no long term studies showing possible dangers of the spike sub-units themselves. What we now know, contrary to the initial statements made by the manufacturers, is that these spikes do not remain attached to the outside of the cell where they have been manufactured but can move from the lymphatic system into your bloodstream. We also know that the 'vaccine' itself can leave the lymphatic system in the muscle and enter the bloodstream and be dispersed in your body to who knows where and inserting them themselves into unknown cells to make the antibodies who knows where. Studies have shown these spike proteins can be found in every organ in your body - even crossing the blood brain barrier. The troubling thing is that there has only been a half year of testing and the double blind placebo group has been dismantled leaving no way to determine the true safety of the product.
The vaccines use much the same genetic makeup as the actual COVID-19 spike protein so asserting blame to either is problematic because they can BOTH CAUSE THE SAME DAMAGE TO YOUR BODY. Then there are the problems of autoimmune disease and ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) that also require longer term studies with double blind placebo groups to truthfully understand the safety profile of the drug vis-a-vis the disease. Take note that the double blind study was discontinued at the 3-4 month time frame where they would have found out how fast the efficacy of the vaccines would wane.
I suggest that all the fore mentioned problems had reared their ugly heads and that is why they got rid of the placebo group so damn quickly. Take note that the manufacturing plants were all built in tandem with the development of the vaccine so it would have cost billions to scrap the technology at this time. So they made a decision to go ahead come hell or high water.
Israeli immunologist protest
Udi Qimron, head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University and a leading Israeli immunologist, has taken the opportunity posed by the collapsing narrative to release this open letter to the authorities (this is a mechanical translation from the original Hebrew):
Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure.
In the end, the truth will always be revealed, and the truth about the coronavirus policy is beginning to be revealed. When the destructive concepts collapse one by one, there is nothing left but to tell the experts who led the management of the pandemic – we told you so.
Two years late, you finally realize that a respiratory virus cannot be defeated and that any such attempt is doomed to fail. You do not admit it, because you have admitted almost no mistake in the last two years, but in retrospect it is clear that you have failed miserably in almost all of your actions, and even the media is already having a hard time covering your shame.
You refused to admit that the infection comes in waves that fade by themselves, despite years of observations and scientific knowledge. You insisted on attributing every decline of a wave solely to your actions, and so through false propaganda “you overcame the plague.” And again you defeated it, and again and again and again.
You refused to admit that mass testing is ineffective, despite your own contingency plans explicitly stating so (“Pandemic Influenza Health System Preparedness Plan, 2007,” p. 26).
You refused to admit that recovery is more protective than a vaccine, despite previous knowledge and observations showing that non-recovered vaccinated people are more likely to be infected than recovered people. You refused to admit that the vaccinated are contagious despite the observations. Based on this, you hoped to achieve herd immunity by vaccination — and you failed in that as well.
You insisted on ignoring the fact that the disease is dozens of times more dangerous for risk groups and older adults, than for young people who are not in risk groups, despite the knowledge that came from China as early as 2020.
You refused to adopt the “Great Barrington Declaration,” signed by more than 60,000 scientists and medical professionals, or other common-sense programs. You chose to ridicule, slander, distort and discredit them. Instead of the right programs and people, you have chosen professionals who lack relevant training for pandemic management (physicists as chief government advisers, veterinarians, security officers, media personnel, and so on).
You have not set up an effective system for reporting side effects from the vaccines and reports on side effects have even been deleted from your Facebook page. Doctors avoid linking side effects to the vaccine, lest you persecute them as you did to some of their colleagues. You have ignored many reports of changes in menstrual intensity and menstrual cycle times. You hid data that allows for objective and proper research (for example, you removed the data on passengers at Ben Gurion Airport). Instead, you chose to publish non-objective articles together with senior Pfizer executives on the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
Irreversible damage to trust
However, from the heights of your hubris, you have also ignored the fact that in the end the truth will be revealed. And it begins to be revealed. The truth is that you have brought the public’s trust in you to an unprecedented low, and you have eroded your status as a source of authority. The truth is that you have burned hundreds of billions of shekels to no avail – for publishing intimidation, for ineffective tests, for destructive lockdowns and for disrupting the routine of life in the last two years.
You have destroyed the education of our children and their future. You made children feel guilty, scared, smoke, drink, get addicted, drop out, and quarrel, as school principals around the country attest. You have harmed livelihoods, the economy, human rights, mental health and physical health.
You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarized the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.
When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries — you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployed you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed — are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only.
There is currently no medical emergency, but you have been cultivating such a condition for two years now because of lust for power, budgets and control. The only emergency now is that you still set policies and hold huge budgets for propaganda and consciousness engineering instead of directing them to strengthen the health care system.
This emergency must stop!
Anya
Excellent letter...
Thanks for posting.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Bingo
Professor Ehud Qimron: “Ministry of Health, it’s time to admit failure”
Even the media is turning up to call out the disinformation coming from Walensky. Bout time, Jake.
Wow when you have lost Brian Stelter you know that you screwed up. However I’m leery about them finally admitting the truth that we have known all along. First they admitted that the PCR tests aren’t worth a hill of beans and now finally admitting that there is a huge difference between WITH Covid and FROM it.
Even Newsweek has posted an article on how badly Fauci has screwed up by the doctors that he smeared for writing the Great Barrington Declaration. Just yesterday he admitted that we should be protecting the most vulnerable which is exactly what 60,000 doctors said right after the country was closed down. He needs to retire and if he won’t then Biden needs to fire him. And Walensky, but I think that’s a given. Somebody needs to get thrown under the bus.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
CNN's "brand" is fear
so if they back off "covid's gonna get you!!" then that's a major step.
Hey, I read that DARPA thing. It fits with my thinking on the origins. To me, it's common sense that it came from the lab. That one over there. The one with the sign that says "virology" that's next to this wet market. You know, the place where they tinker with viruses.
I'm thinking that China was set up to take the hit
Of the 15 million spent by the NIH in GOF research, only $600,000 went to the Wuhan lab which was doing legitimate studies on bats since the SARS-CoV outbreak in China 2002. The rest was kept by EcoHealth Alliance owner Peter Daszak who spent it at several of the labs he ran in the US.
For your information China did eventually develop several inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccines which have proven to be quite safe as compared to the mRNA ones.
For additional information about the genesis of SARS-CoV-2 see my diary here in C99% for a detailed breakdown by Dr. David Martin (includes video and pdf):
Nothing about the "novel" coronavirus is new:
I agree it’s a major step for the media to back off the
fear factor. It’s been nonstop fear mongering since it started and they focused on case numbers with a faulty PCR test that they still used for months after telling us that it couldn’t differentiate between the flu and Covid. I wonder how much attention that got when it came out?
It’s sure looking like it came out of Wuhan. And that Fauci and his friends were doing something they shouldn’t have been. I’m not decided on whether it was accidentally or intentionally leaked yet, but I read about how Obama said that he shut down gain of function here because of the dangers, but he was fully aware of it being continued in Wuhan and elsewhere. It might have been in the zero hedges article I posted yesterday I think. I’ll try to find it again and will post if I do.
I don’t know if you saw that I posted this yesterday on the original article on what happen over there. It got talked about for a few days and then people moved on. I’m going to read it again and see what I’ve forgotten.
https://theintercept.com/2021/09/23/coronavirus-research-grant-darpa/
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Found it
I think this got missed yesterday between the 2 essays, but it goes into detail on what happened with gain of function during Obama. Links to the snippets are posted in the main article.
Here’s the damning information on ivermectin and HCQ. HCQ was bad mouthed because Trump talked about it but he couldn’t explain what it did. Then democrats and the media further made it seem like something bad just cuz he did.
If this gets verified then I think and hope some heads will roll because they deliberately let people die from no early treatments, no treatments once admitted and used only remdisiver and ventilators which had a very low chance of working.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Bravo!
Comprehensive and truthful indictement of the Evil that has overtaken us.
NYCVG
So they never told us that if we got jabbed
we wouldn’t get the Rona eh? Nope. Anyone who is spouting that they were always to prevent hospitalization and lesser symptoms has drunk their kool-aid. They said it before they saw the vaccines collapsing on them.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Well, you know Kory claimed that Ivermectin would totally
prevent infection and was a "miracle drug". Then he and others who took it, and got "the Rona". Why does everyone ignore that and just go after the vaccine industry?
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Groan
Did he take it before he got it or after? There is a difference which should be obvious. Do you take antibiotics before you get an infection or after? Hundreds of doctors have been treating thousands of their patients with it and they have not only kept them from being hospitalized, but have saved their lives. You should look at what was discovered yesterday from the department of defense. It’s been known since April 2020 that ivermectin is very effective in treatment. CB and I posted about it yesterday, but here you go.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/hidden-military-documents-reveal-nih-...
If we didn’t have a Pfizer captured media it would have been all they talked about yesterday. You can ignore the truth all you want, but it doesn’t make it not true. I hope you have some good recipes and I hope you aren’t expecting me to suddenly wake up one day and see that by golly Malone was a fraud all along. It ain’t going to happen no matter how many hit jobs you post on him.
If you want to criticize the source go for it. It actually came from project veritas.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Groan right back at you...
You talk about Kory and company all the time, and yet you don't know about his incident with Ivermectin and Covid?
If he is such an expert on Ivermectin and pushes it every chance he gets, don't you think he would know when and how to take it???
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Many peer reviewed studies show that ivermectin
reduces and ameliorates complications from COVID-19. The FLCCC protocols have been modified since Kory was infected. Kory and his daughter recovered quickly.
Compare to doing nothing but stay home, isolate and go to the hospital if breathing becomes difficult. That's what the CDC advises.
The FLCCC protocol has a fantastic PROVEN record of reducing the disease. The following is real time/real world verification of the efficacy of ivermectin:
USA Deaths/million 2,596 Population 333,971,837 Total deaths 867,064 (ivermectin banned)
India Deaths/million 346 Population 1,400,754,116 Total deaths 484,746 (ivermectin used in 75% of provinces)
(Note: The numbers for India would even be lower if some of the provincial governments controlled by Modi's political party had not banned the use of ivermectin. These provinces are now taking the responsible parties to court. Some are demanding that the death penalty be imposed.)
If India had the same death rate as the United States their death toll would now be 3,636,996 instead of 484,746 - that's a saving of 3,152,250 lives AND untold millions of permanently COVID damaged people.
I've got about 80 of these reports about your "horse dewormer". Do you want me to post all of them?
No I don’t
But just make stuff up. Since you made the claim you can show me ALL the times I’ve mentioned him. But I’m very sure that he knows how and when to take it since it was he and his group of doctors that came up with the protocol. You just deny that it works. Over and over unless you’re doing ANOTHER hit job on Malone.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
But the "miracle drug" that Kory told Congress was the
solution to treating Covid didn't work for him. He and his daughter got Covid while taking Ivermectin. This is the kind of stuff that puts a hole in much of the narratives around here. If one can't admit in the face of facts that people like Kory have made some rather untrue statements, then other information shared by the anti covid vax crowd loses its validity. It's like RFK Jr. and his denial of the proofs that childhood vaccines do not cause autism. His insistence on ignoring that proof has put him in a position of being viewed as un-credible when it comes to science.... except of course for his followers who see him as almost god-like.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Because they have failed
People who have been double jabbed and boosted are home sick and it’s wreaking havoc everywhere. How do you not know that? And yes the jabbed have a higher chance of infection than the unjabbed. It’s been reported all week.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Just not true... what is being reported is the both groups
are having more infections, but the unvaccinated still have much higher numbers...If you look at hospitalizations the picture is clear. It is impossible to tell what the numbers are in the general population who are getting covid and just not reporting it or getting tested.
From this article dated January 11th 2022....https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/11/briefing/omicron-deaths-vaccinated-vs...
There are graphs illustrating the points. This data is from New York and Seattle, but the article also includes links to data from Boston and Chicago.
"Some of the timeliest data on Covid-19 outcomes by vaccination status comes from New York City and the Seattle area, and the two are telling a consistent story.
Cases for vaccinated and unvaccinated residents alike are rising:
They’re rising because vaccination often does not prevent infection from the Omicron variant. It reduces the chances substantially — as you can see above — but vaccinated people still face a meaningful chance of infection. What vaccination does is radically reduce the chance of severe Covid illness. Look how different these charts on hospitalizations looks from the previous charts on cases:"
"The death gap
The data on deaths from New York and Seattle underscores the relatively low risks for vaccinated people. These numbers show a starker gap between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated than the hospitalization data....."
"But the early data raises the possibility that the increase in deaths among the vaccinated will remain relatively modest. The gap in the mortality charts above can’t merely be a reflection of the lag between the cases and deaths. After all, deaths among unvaccinated New Yorkers and Seattleites had already begun to surge in December. Deaths among the vaccinated had not."
"The bottom line
Vaccination remains highly effective at preventing severe Covid illnesses. And Omicron is milder than earlier versions of the virus. The combination means that most Americans — including children and vaccinated adults — face little personal risk from Omicron.
The risk is not zero, to be clear, even among people who are generally healthy. But it is very small. Every day, people live with small risks, be they from the seasonal flu and other illnesses or from riding in a vehicle, playing sports or other activities.
For the unvaccinated, the situation is very different. Omicron is still severe enough that it will lead to debilitating illness and death for many unvaccinated people. In much of the U.S., a large number of adults — including older adults — remain unvaccinated:"
If you dismiss this because it's from the NYTimes, then you are certainly welcome to check on their sources or find other sources for the stats. However, it has been established that vaccinated people do much better overall than unvaccinated with all of the variants that have come to fruition.
Here is January 11th in Canada...https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/inside-an-icu-where-70-per-cen...
Here is Kentucky from yesterday....https://www.wkyt.com/2022/01/12/lfchd-reports-majority-people-hospitaliz...
"LEXINGTON, Ky. (WKYT) - Lexington-Fayette County Health Department reported 894 new COVID-19 cases yesterday with a 7-day rolling average of at least 700 new cases per day.
The COVID-19 vaccine continues to be effective in keeping people from serious illness, including hospitalizations.
There are currently 126 Fayette County residents hospitalized, with 84% of them unvaccinated. More than half of the hospitalizations (67) are ages 18-64, with 94% unvaccinated.
Of the 24 Fayette County residents in Intensive Care Units, 92% are unvaccinated. There are 16 people who are currently on a ventilator, with 94% unvaccinated."
https://www.fox19.com/2022/01/10/icu-beds-maxed-out-northern-kentucky-am...
Also here are the stats that counter the claims made on the Sceptic website about the situation in the UK...
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/04/facebook-posts/omicron...
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Look at what is happening in Israel and elsewhere
It’s the complete opposite where more vaxxed people are in hospital and seriously more ill. You can’t ignore facts that go against what you believe, but apparently it’s easy for you to do.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Show me where Dr Kory actually said:
"Ivermectin would totally prevent infection". If you can't then you have to retract your statement.
Please take that poster down
As a male of advanced age I find the central figure quite threatening.
I am old and immuno-compromised.
I have been following serious Covid precautions since word started leaking out at the end of 2019. I won't speak for anyone else but what I've been doing works for me. Plus, I live in Floridumb.
**I have gotten the vaccines and booster (Moderna). Was shocked when the only side effect was 48 hours of slight tenderness around the point of injection.
** I wear a Covid mask inside unless windows and doors are wide open allowing constant fresh air.
**I do not go inside social areas like the grocery store, pharmacy, etc. without being fully masked.
**On the second item, I am referring to eating establishments, 7-11s, etc. I rarely go to them.
**I take vitamin D3, C, B-12 and Zinc for preventive maintenance, health-wise. These boost and strengthen the immune system. More and experts are advising folks to take them.
These precautions have worked. I also keep myself fully updated on the viruses. This is not an easy task due to all of the deliberate misinformation, and politicizing which is insane and wrong. These are highly contagious diseases which can kill. Enough said and Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Closing schools
Although I live in Florida, I'm near the Alabama line so I watch local news from Dothan. They had to close down their schools because of Covid. Not just teachers and students, but they don't have enough bus drivers or nurses. The Omnicron is so easily transmitted that everyone is testing positive. That is why they keep changing the quarantine time because if everyone was tested, the entire country would shut down.
I believe that I already had it around New Year's. But there was no place to get tested at that time. Have no idea anymore what you are supposed to do. The TV keeps telling me that I am 17 times more likely to get it and 20 times more likely to be hospitalized.
This is a big part of the problem
There are studies out that state if you have recovered from some variant of the Covid, your immune system is better able to defend against re-infection than those who have been vaxxed. Also, the new strain of Omicron is more like the common cold, as were the other SARS variants more like the endemic flu. Medical science seems to have found a way to identify normal colds and flu strains as
a scary covidis, therefore pushing vaccines, distancing, lockdowns, mandates and passports. It sounds very fishy to me. This is a politicized medical / governmental overreach. A new way to gain control over social behavior, IMO.
question everything
Just got a SMS text message
from the Colorado Department of Public Health offering me the ability to anonymously share my Covid test results, presumably from my Monday retest:
Got one of those messages last week as well, about 12 hours before the testing company sent me the first email officially confirming that I was positive. Thanks, but no thanks: I don't click on unsolicited links, ever. They clearly already have the results in any case- otherwise, why text me?
So I'll treat this, once again, as foreshadowing. I suspect that I'll get the official confirmation from the testing company later today. So it would appear that I was/am still positive on the order of 10 days in, still coughing, and still dealing with a sore throat (although less coughing and less sore every day). And still not dead.
Meanwhile, bubbling on the stove: a dutch oven full of fresh potsticker soup. This uses bagged, frozen grocery store potstickers as dumplings, but the green's the thing: ginger, green onions, ginger, brussels sprouts, ginger, celery, ginger, garlic, ginger... It's even better without the potstickers, frankly- pick good ones to honor the greenery.
1/2 pound chinese or napa cabbage (or brussels sprouts, in a pinch, as today), thinly sliced
2 celery ribs, thinly sliced
2 medium carrots , cut into matchsticks
1/3 cup thinly sliced green onions
2 to 3 tablespoons soy sauce
2 tablespoons rice vinegar (we triple it)
3 garlic cloves , minced (we triple it)
2 teaspoons minced fresh ginger root (fresh only, we at least double it: grab a big chunk and wail on it)
1/2 teaspoon sesame oil
6 cups chicken stock
More ginger, garlic, vinegar, pepper and/or hot oil to taste. Keep dumping good stuff of your choice in until the pot threatens to overflow.
In a 4-qt. slow cooker, combine the first nine ingredients. Stir in stock. Cook, covered, on low until vegetables are tender, 5-6 hours. Add potstickers; cook, covered, on high until heated through, 15-20 minutes. If desired, sprinkle with chow mein noodles before serving.
This recipe ought to be one of those classic "nail soups" that every beginning cook should learn. It is asian-inspired, originally, but can be steered cajun without a second thought (as an excuse to use up some green peppers to complete the trinity, and maybe some serranos, on top of a bacon roux aw jeez don't get me started...). Can also be drunk warm as a toddy for medicinal purposes, with the addition of a good solid shot or three of your spirit of choice. Not that I'm saying I've ever done such a thing, of course.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
I can't see how you could possibly be ill
after quaffing that witches brew
Have you tried the diluted iodine tincture gargle?
I swear by it!
question everything
I suggest even more ginger and garlic
er mer Gewrd, the
last spoonful of the dregs from the bottom of the bowl (with the bigger chunks of ginger and the coarser chunks of pepper that settled out) is *heaven*... We'll be eating that for a few days here!
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
reposted as reply it should've been
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
NIH Hides Emails of Moderna
Well this isn't good for those that are boosted
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Oh, Oh
cat is out of the bag
it's about time
takes a panel of otherwise
uninfluenced docs to lay out
the truth .. sorry kids - the vax
is not quite what was advertised
let's see how they squirm out of this one ..
question everything
Cat came out the bad yesterday by yours truly
and i posted about VAIDS a week ago. I wonder how well people are reading what’s posted in these essays? It’s easy to miss stuff but it seems like a lot is being missed. I’m just as bad at it too. Ima just saying.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
yup, eyes glaze over with too much info
sorry, but I wish my attention span was longer than the heartbeat of a cicada
might actually draw a conclusion or two
question everything
I’m just letting us know that lots of information might
be getting missed not to shame anyone just more of a heads up because it gets posted numerous days. I reread the day befores dose each day because I have found that things get posted at the same time and doesn’t show up new to me and I’ve missed seeing something that I got something out of. There’s a ton of info posted here every day so it’s easy to miss or like me..forget.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
This VAIDS story is terrifying, and its real.
PubMed has stuff on the possible introduction of AIDS into humans via a botched polio vaccine.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=aids+polio+vaccine&sort=date.
It may be quite unwise to keep boosting vaccines.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32529703/
The Great Barrington Declaration proves
to be the correct approach to the COVID-13 plandemic:
Episode 3 now available
Episode 3: Vaccine Pushers: Driving False Narratives
Did you watch yesterday’s video?
Yowzer that was packed with good information. I especially liked the woman doctor with the short hair describing what she is seeing. Scary stuff.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
This is my major BITCH
and PET PEEVE: where can we get reliable and trustworthy information???????????????????? I commented on it earlier in this diary. The vaccines do NOT sterilize! They simply lessen the effects of the viruses. People have got to combine them with other precautionary measures.
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
I use a simple formula to whittle down the volume
If the subject comes up on the top of a Google search, in multiple mainstream outlets using the same phrasing message, I assume it is designed to reinforce a particular point of view, and that it is not a place where an unbiased explorations will be found.
So I then look further down the search results (or use a different search engine) until I find hits that question the prevailing narrative. There will be a host of knee jerk contrarian hits which quickly arrive at a contravening viewpoints with little or no exploration or discussion. I keep looking.
What I am looking for is honest questioning, as opposed to the rhetorical sort which simply lead to a different sort of prepackaged TV Dinner opinion. Questions often lead to a better understanding while ‘answers’ often function as question killers, whether they are actually true or not.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
That’s a good strategy
The key that the information is being manipulated was what Google did when people started looking up mass psychosis. Here’s what they posted:
Paraphrasing, but when has that EVER been done? Search results are well search results, but it’s what was the top results after they figured it out that told the tale. It was something some anti vax made up so you can discount it. Do one now and see what comes up.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.
Also they use up the pathogen namespece and create a sort of
exhaustion of the immune response as people age. Beta-coronavirus infection is also cumulative in a very negative way. Its nuts to keep on boosting vaccines forever. That seems almost guaranteed to lead to big problems. We have to change the way we live to adjust to the new normal of much of the workforce, millions perhaps even billions of people traveling all around the world in just a few hours perhaps multiple times a year. Thats the new corporate business model they are determined to implement, soon. We cant prevent our most essential workers (soon) from spending at least a few days of quality time each year with their families. The era of people working where they grew up and currently have roots is ending. Thats too expensive. Instead they must trade places to divest them of rights, for business to be "sustainable" Dig?
Look up ADE (antigen dependent enhancement) of coronavirus and also "Antigenic Original Sin" for some background.
Got my official word from
Mako Medical at 5:14am this morning. Still positive, no surprise. Guess I'll go get swabbed again on Monday...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
My sister (fully vaxxed) still tested positive
at the 10 day mark. Only had cold like symptoms the whole time.
Hang in there!
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
They manipulate search results in all sorts of ways.
In order to hide things from people.
Look up "information jerrymandering" on social networks for example.
Its been a very long time since Page Rank was the sole algorithm they used.
Disclosure, I have done extensive research professionally (in the distant past, when it was a lot smaller and quite different than it is today) on how various aspects of the Internet worked. Including on search engines and the theory behind them.
Its different when countries have agreed not to change things.
The usual rules dont apply when a country has made WTO commitments. For one thing, the people cant decide to break the agreement, for anyreason. The countries have already put it off the table. So its easy to see how they might want to conceal any information which would lead other than the desired outcomes.
This is most certainly whats going on. The government has already decided on a huge number of things and they arent things that politicians could do, so they hide them
Frankly the government has to only do things that increase corporate profits. Its literally prohibited from allowing anything that might reduce their profits. Its a deal between governments and investors to protect their property.
Look up the phrases "indirect expropriation" and "ISDS" to better understand what has changed and why.
A democracy is a government where representative government gives the people functional control over policies but as long as they have control over candidates and candidates swear to not change anything like that they can be fairly certain candidates wont do anything that will get the government sued for "indirect expropriation".
Please discuss this "indirect expropriation" so I can see that people have read this, and that it hasn't been ghosted. Thank you.
Eric Schmidt and alleged HRC "comeback" for 2024
Schmidt was a big Hillary Clinton fan.
It seems like she may be again a candidate for POTUS.
Wonder if they will revive Bernie to help her win again.
It’d help if I knew who you were replying to
If the reply button is missing you can post the username so we could follow you more easily. It’s been asked before.
Putin isn’t going to make you homeless or kill you or deny you health care.
Your government will allow it to happen though.