Any Questions?

Bramhall’s World for Monday, Aug. 9, 2021.
Bill Bramhall | New York Daily News

https://misc.pagesuite.com/a309eb2e-715e-4bc9-8cba-c28ee4d1064e/images/9...

Potato potahto---let's call the whole thing off.

A mess from start to finish.

No clarity or intelligent guidelines any where in sight. The failure of both Administrations to guide our country through this storm is staggering to me.

Tags: 
Share
up
15 users have voted.

Comments

up
1 user has voted.

NYCVG

Cassiodorus's picture

which is why it really puzzles me when I hear people say they think COVID-19 is a government conspiracy.

I tend to agree with the theory put forth in Andreas Malm's Corona Climate Chronic Emergency. Global capitalist agriculture (especially in the manifestation of palm oil plantations) tends to encroach upon the habitats of bats, who are prolific carriers of disease. With enough habitat encroachment (and I suppose there were and are also those Chinese markets where live animals are sold), the diseases mutate into diseases of domestic animals or of people. One of those diseases happened to be COVID-19.

Malm's explanation repeats a fair amount of research, which has a source I can't remember just right now. I suppose COVID-19 could have happened another way. It's just that it really appears that the people who believe that COVID-19 was developed in a lab just can't bring themselves to believe that COVID-19 comes from bats. But even the bat origin hypothesis reveals capitalism as the culprit.

The vaccine appears as a half-measure because the capitalists were desperate to fund something that would end lockdowns, business closings, mask mandates, and hospital overcrowding as quickly as possible, because such things interfere with the day-to-day operation of the system. And they totally fumbled India, the origin of the Delta variant.

up
7 users have voted.

"The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening." -- Rosa Luxemburg

"The vaccine appears as a half-measure because the capitalists were desperate to fund something that would end lockdowns, business closings, mask mandates, and hospital overcrowding as quickly as possible, because such things interfere with the day-to-day operation of the system."

Totally agree.

And making believe that the vaccine was a trustworty shield seems to have been a serious mistake.

Where would we be now if they said that the vaccine cannot promise that you are entirely protected from the virus,
But combined with masks and social distancing, we will all have a better chance to stay free of the worst of Covid.

Or is our health so low down on the totem pole of what is important that nothing else could have happened but what has happened.

up
9 users have voted.

NYCVG

Cassiodorus's picture

@NYCVG @NYCVG "And making believe that the vaccine was a trustworty shield seems to have been a serious mistake."

The vaccine offers a certain amount of protection against infection, which you can see in the statistics of the Roger Seheult video.

But it only goes so far, which means that when only half the population in the most privileged countries is vaccinated and capitalist society is declaring premature victory (as it did at the end of June), you're going to get three things:

1) New variants will proliferate in the countries that have been stiffed by the predatory "First World"'s hoarding of vaccines (and, it must be added, of medical infrastructure -- India, where Delta supposedly comes from, doesn't have much of a medical infrastructure)

2) The unvaccinated in the "First World" will spread the new variants, to a relatively small extent infecting and implicating the vaccinated

3) The new variants will spread among those who are not vaccinated through no fault of their own. Just yesterday I had a student who requested an extension on an assignment deadline because the student's 4-year-old had contracted COVID. Remember back when they were telling us that COVID wasn't much of a problem among the very young? Well they still haven't approved a vaccine for those under the age of 12.

4) Skepticism toward the vaccines will persist in the US because, most prominently, lots of people in the US simply can't afford to see a doctor. Oh yeah, and hospitals in the US will leave the uninsured to die of COVID-19 because money is more important to them than the Hippocratic Oath.

228252633_10224244942538673_4747742377407641693_n.jpg

We could, you know, get rid of capitalism or at least suspend its rules for long enough to end the compound crisis (COVID-19 being one facet of said crisis among many). But capitalism uber alles, and so the crisis persists.

up
6 users have voted.

"The most revolutionary thing one can do is always to proclaim loudly what is happening." -- Rosa Luxemburg

CB's picture

@Cassiodorus
and there is data that vaccinated people are the ones driving new variants.

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, CDC chief says

Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."

That's why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.

Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected -- data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.

"If you're going home to somebody who has not been vaccinated, to somebody who can't get vaccinated, somebody who might be immunosuppressed or a little bit frail, somebody who has comorbidities that put them at high risk, I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings," Walensky said.
...

Coronavirus transmission among vaccinated people could raise the risk of an even more dangerous variant

The coronavirus could be "just a few mutations potentially away" from evolving into a variant that can evade existing COVID-19 vaccines, CDC director Rochelle Walensky said Tuesday.

According to research published Friday in the journal Scientific Reports, vaccinated people — counterintuitively — play a key role in that risk.

The best way to stop coronavirus deaths and severe illness is to roll out vaccines quickly. However, the researchers concluded that the chance a vaccine-resistant strain will emerge is highest in a scenario that combines three conditions: First, a large portion of a population is vaccinated, but not everyone. Second, there's a lot of virus circulating. And third, no measures are in place to curb potential viral transmission from vaccinated people. Sound familiar?

Before the rise of Delta, which is now responsible for more than 80% of US coronavirus cases, that situation wasn't a concern because research suggested vaccinated people weren't likely to transmit other versions of the virus. But according to a CDC study released Friday, vaccinated people may transmit the Delta variant just as easily as the unvaccinated.

up
8 users have voted.
CB's picture

@Cassiodorus
for anyone, let alone children. The first studies are to be completed in 2023.

BTW, I would only allow the mRNA vaccines to be given to my child OVER MY DEAD BODY!

FDA approval of the Covid-19 vaccine could mean more people will get vaccinated for an unexpected reason

Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine is currently only authorized for emergency use in the United States, but its full approval by the US Food and Drug Administration could happen within weeks.
...
What does approval mean for kids?
It remains unclear how having a fully licensed coronavirus vaccine may impact the timeline of authorizing or approving the coronavirus vaccines for children younger than 12 -- if at all, Offit said.

The Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-29 vaccine is currently authorized for ages 12 and older, whereas the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines are authorized only for adults 18 and older.

"Does getting full approval for an adult vaccine, does that matter in terms of speeding up the process for approval for the childhood vaccines? I think the answer to that question is probably no," Offit told CNN on Friday.
...

up
11 users have voted.
CB's picture

up
8 users have voted.
Dawn's Meta's picture

up
6 users have voted.

A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.

Consider helping by donating using the button in the upper left hand corner. Thank you.

@CB

"This is not stupidity, this is fraud"

Thanks CB

up
6 users have voted.
CB's picture

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53tHJkIQj8]

The PCR test, the greatest magician to have ever existed. If you think David Copperfield making the Statue of Liberty disappear was impressive, imagine making the liberty of 7 billion people disappear. Not only that, the PCR test made 37 million flu cases vanish in a single year, and like all good magic tricks, those flu cases are about to reappear. Now that's some top tier magic, isn’t it? Or maybe that's just what we call science these days.

up
9 users have voted.
Dawn's Meta's picture

@CB me hysterical, but this gal makes me really laugh. The from the belly kind.

Oh and where did she get her critical thinking chops? If they (whoever they are) made this kind of thinking the objective of a good education, we would have truly thinking, discerning people all over the place, asking, wondering wtf is going on?

Maybe that was rhetorical.

She is most refreshing.

up
5 users have voted.

A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.

Consider helping by donating using the button in the upper left hand corner. Thank you.

.

I was curious about the demise of the PCR Test. I had missed that snippet of news when it came out and upon watching that short video I had no idea whether she was making that shit up out of whole cloth. So I checked in with our friends at google to see what if anything was available on the topic.

There was plenty of confirmation that this has indeed happened. Plus there were more entries labeled "Fact Check" with titles like, "Viral Stories Distort CDC Decision." Of course, lots of critics and skeptics had snorted at the datum of Zero Flu Cases as implausible. I am sure that Team Rationalization will have an explanation for this. They always do.

They are the people who supported the public policies that got us to where we are, except when things have gone badly, in which case someone is to BLAME for deviation from the correct course of action as dictated by the single voice of Science.

How do you spin the admission that your primary tool for assessing the health of our citizens and the progress of the pandemic was great for 17 months, but now it isn't? I did not care to read it because I really do not care about this point. Bullshit runs everything now, so why lose one's cookies over yet another pile of it?

.

Joining in the fun game of Anectodal Evidence, just as several folks have gotten the jab and report no ill effects, I have not gotten the jab or the second jab and I have not had a day of illness since long before the pandemic. Obviously the pandemic cannot hurt anybody because it did not hurt me? Right?

I have already heard one answer to the argument about influenza disappearing -- nobody got the flu because everybody was locked down or wearing a mask! Great idea, guys. So how did 650,000 die from covid? And 35 plus million people become a case?

Uh, I am sure Science has a perfectly logical answer to this question.

.

Is this a great country or what?

up
3 users have voted.

I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

CB's picture

@fire with fire

I have already heard one answer to the argument about influenza disappearing -- nobody got the flu because everybody was locked down or wearing a mask! Great idea, guys. So how did 650,000 die from covid? And 35 plus million people become a case?

Uh, I am sure Science has a perfectly logical answer to this question.

Maybe the influenza virus is fatter/heavier so it can't pass though a cheap mask and also doesn't travel as far?

up
3 users have voted.