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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 1:09am

'What a racket! Burn down the house, then swoop in with fire engines using “emergency authorizations,” and when the hurriedly built fire engines fall apart, save the day with a new “patented” fire suppressant after trying to destroy all other efforts to put out the fire.'

- skyprince

Who didn’t see this coming? But there have been numerous studies done on ivermectin that shows that it has some benefit when taken appropriately. Many have been peer reviewed, but they have been censored so…

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 3:41am
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....again, perhaps the people will be permitted to work with real treatments and cures that have been suppressed by the medical monopolies.

Now that they got their permanent vaccine program with nine billion hostages, perhaps the people can find a better solution. I've seen a half dozen aspirin studies that were ignored by the journals since the pandemic began. Unfunded studies like this one have been trying to get noticed and help people fight the virus. Add it to your survival kit.

Aspirin Use is Associated with Decreased Mortality in Patients with COVID-19:

A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis

This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

ABSTRACT

Background Novel Corona Virus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) has resulted in more than three and half million deaths worldwide as of June 6, 2021. The role of aspirin in prevention of COVID-19 mortality has not been much studied. We aimed to study the relationship between aspirin use and covid-19 mortality.

Methods

We searched PubMed, MEDLINE, EMBASE, and Cochrane database for studies from January 2019 till June 6, 2021 with inclusion criteria of RCT, Cohort study, studies reporting mortality, and comparison studies on aspirin versus non-aspirin. Statistical analysis was done with Review Manager 5.4 statistical software using the inverse variance method. We assessed the pooled hazard ratio (HR), and 95% confidence interval using the random effect model and I-squared test was used to determine statistical heterogeneity.

Results

We included five retrospective cohort studies which met our inclusion criteria with total of 14065 participants in both groups. There were 6797 participants in the aspirin group and 7268 participants in the non-aspirin group. Our results show that the use of aspirin was associated with 53% decrease in mortality compared to non-aspirin in patients with COVID-19. In the analysis restricted to patients hospitalized for COVID-19, the use of aspirin was associated with a 49% reduction in the risk for in-hospital mortality.

Conclusions

Our results show that aspirin is associated with decrease in both overall mortality and in-hospital mortality in patients with COVID-19.

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Submitted by Marie on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 2:09pm

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of COVID-19 there were many anecdotal reports that acetaminophen (tylenol) was contraindicated. iow, people that took it got much worse.

In defiance of the medical advice and marketing, I've stuck with aspirin. (Tylenol not only didn't work for me on a headache, it made the headache much worse.)

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Submitted by ovals49 on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 5:10am

Need I say more?

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Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 10:16am
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minutes really shows the cognitive dissonance running rampant. I have spent over an hour looking for the interview which is no more than ten days old, but alas have been unsuccessful so far. It was on a main-stream-media outlet, with visual, I believe CNN. I can however remember the substance because the contradictions were so striking.

Fauci stated that mask-wearing is more important now with the DELTA variant moving through the populations.

In terms of mask-wearing and breakthrough cases (I paraphrase) he said:

- in a very explicit statement that the DELTA variant is essentially a new virus. It is different than the virus the 'vaccine's were developed against.

- that response does diminish over some time (unspecified), but that the reports out of Israel indicate there will be a need for boosters (unspecified intervals) and no comment on whether boosters would be the same 'vaccines' or modified.

- the 'vaccines' do not stop the transmission. They diminish the severity, hospitalization and deaths.

- the DELTA variant is much more transmissible. No mention of the increase or decrease of lethality.

- Everyone should go out and get the 'vaccine' shots. No repeat of the DELTA variant is a new virus.

I have so many questions which I know will not be answered.

- How many breakthrough cases are there these days? I saw a report on NPR that Pelosi's staff were completely vaccinated but were in lockdown because they are/were getting COVID. Which variant? Also Peace-Health Medical Center in SW Washington state had COVID patients who were already vaccinated. Israel's report is showing declines in prevention (anti-body response?) by the number of months from the completion of injection regimen. How about other countries?

- How are death rates of those with COVID DELTA compared to other viruses we see such as yearly flu?

- And why oh why are not preventatives and prophylactics not explored?

- Why oh why are re-purposed medicines not explored and promoted? Especially in populations that have to wait for 'vaccines'?

- Why aren't the immunocompromised (often people with allergies) ever mentioned as a population which needs protection? Why are they continued if not increasingly lumped with the anti-vaxxers?

A link to the FrontLine COVID Critical Care Alliance:
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A fact and science-based organization.

Thank you for your spirit of generosity and graciousness in allowing me to voice my concerns.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 11:25am

but Pfizer patented IVM by processing it differently. It is the same IVM, but made via the patented process, so it will be expensive, or course. Perhaps it is information associated with this featured tweet.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 12:04pm
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Here’s why they don’t make sense:

The law effectively creates a two-tier society that defines citizens by a specific medical act. The precedent is jarring. Until now, a person’s medical history was considered taboo and part of their private life.

There’s a sense among the protesters that the government's efforts are far more political than sanitary. For example, although the unvaccinated are expected to take a Covid test prior to entering venues controlled by the health pass, the vaccinated aren’t. Yet it has now been established that vaccination doesn’t prevent transmission. So health pass venues could very well become breeding grounds for the untested vaccinated carriers of the virus to infect the unvaccinated Covid-free. On Monday, the Department of Veterans Affairs became the first government department to require its employees – albeit only those who work in a medical capacity – to get vaccinated. The White House previously avoided recommending mandatory inoculation in the workplace, but the Justice Department concluded earlier this week that federal law does not prohibit vaccine mandates by either public or private employers.

Though mandatory vaccination appears to be imminent, its effect on the spread of the coronavirus remains to be seen. CDC Director Rochelle Walensky defended the new mask guidance on Tuesday by stating that officials believe vaccinated people infected with the delta variant of the coronavirus can still spread it to others, and may carry higher levels of the virus than the unvaccinated.

The CDC has said that it’s not testing people who have received the vaccines so they can’t actually make a determination about how effective they are at this time. When corners are cut so is safety and important information gets missed. A half assed job doesn’t instill confidence that they know what the true information is.

Another story that I think needs more exploration is that people who were in the vaccine trials were unmasked and given the vaccines before the trials were finished which makes them useless. In other words the long term trials have been corrupted and the safety of them cannot be determined at this time.

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Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 3:42pm
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@snoopydawg Health Passports Protests

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Submitted by CB on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 12:50pm
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after having contracted and recovered from SARS-CoV-2 despite danger of antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)? Studies have shown that recovered COVID-19 patients "mount broad, durable immunity after infection" that is far superior to the mRNA vaccines.

Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells
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Summary

Ending the COVID-19 pandemic will require long-lived immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Here, we evaluate 254 COVID-19 patients longitudinally up to 8 months and find durable broad-based immune responses. SARS-CoV-2 spike binding and neutralizing antibodies exhibit a bi-phasic decay with an extended half-life of >200 days suggesting the generation of longer-lived plasma cells. SARS-CoV-2 infection also boosts antibody titers to SARS-CoV-1 and common betacoronaviruses. In addition, spike-specific IgG+ memory B cells persist, which bodes well for a rapid antibody response upon virus re-exposure or vaccination. Virus-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T cells are polyfunctional and maintained with an estimated half-life of 200 days. Interestingly, CD4+ T cell responses equally target several SARS-CoV-2 proteins, whereas the CD8+ T cell responses preferentially target the nucleoprotein, highlighting the potential importance of including the nucleoprotein in future vaccines. Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients.
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A perspective on potential antibody-dependent enhancement of SARS-CoV-2

Abstract

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of disease is a general concern for the development of vaccines and antibody therapies because the mechanisms that underlie antibody protection against any virus have a theoretical potential to amplify the infection or trigger harmful immunopathology. This possibility requires careful consideration at this critical point in the pandemic of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). Here we review observations relevant to the risks of ADE of disease, and their potential implications for SARS-CoV-2 infection. At present, there are no known clinical findings, immunological assays or biomarkers that can differentiate any severe viral infection from immune-enhanced disease, whether by measuring antibodies, T cells or intrinsic host responses. In vitro systems and animal models do not predict the risk of ADE of disease, in part because protective and potentially detrimental antibody-mediated mechanisms are the same and designing animal models depends on understanding how antiviral host responses may become harmful in humans. The implications of our lack of knowledge are twofold. First, comprehensive studies are urgently needed to define clinical correlates of protective immunity against SARS-CoV-2. Second, because ADE of disease cannot be reliably predicted after either vaccination or treatment with antibodies-regardless of what virus is the causative agent-it will be essential to depend on careful analysis of safety in humans as immune interventions for COVID-19 move forward.
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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 12:51pm
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may be different. So far, I have personally known 13 people who contracted COVID 19 and all have survived. Some had a very difficult go and were sick for over a month with lingering symptoms while others including one young family member in his 20's had very mild symptoms.

While the mortality rate is less than two percent nationwide, that has added up to over 600,000 deaths officially attributed to COVID 19 in the US. This number is expected to reach near 700,000 deaths by the end of this year. A new report by the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation has estimated that the US death toll may be as much as 50% higher. While a goodly number of those deaths may be elderly or those with underlying or pre-existing health conditions, the death toll from COVID 19 far exceeds the normal rates of mortality each year and are far greater than the rate of mortality from other forms of influenza previously.

While I personally believe in the right of the individual to determine what should or should not be injected into their bodies, I also believe in people exercising personal responsibility during this pandemic. Unfortunately, it seems as though who are most against being vaccinated (which is their right IMO) also seem to be the very same people who refuse to exercise even the most modest degree of personal responsibility toward other people in that they refuse to wear a face covering which can help prevent the spread of pathogens such as those that cause colds, flu, or even the corona virus. This is my greatest concern from a personal perspective because even though I am in good health personally, I am also in a very vulnerable age group and have always been susceptible to upper respiratory infections. Since the CDC removed their masking guidelines, I now see very few people who wear masks in public even though I am very sure a significant number of them are not vaccinated.

Like many here, I had questions about the vaccines, but had no choice other than to become vaccinated myself because it was the only way I was allowed to visit with my nearly 99 year old mother who lives in an independent living facility. Still, I see those who are anti vaccines criticizing those of us who chose to become vaccinated. Everyone has his or her reasons one way or another. And I will never tell someone that they must accept a foreign substance to be injected into their bodies.

However, local mandates are coming. Just today, I read that my home county (Leon County Florida) has mandated that all its employees must be vaccinated or must wear a mask full time at work. this is in defiance of Florida Governor Ron DeSantis executive order that no local government can mandate masks or vaccinations. The impetus for local governments taking action against the executive order of the Governor is the fact that the Delta variant of the corona virus is running rampant in Florida. Do we know for sure if the vaccine will protect people from contracting COVID 19 or its Delta variant? No. But what we do know is that any illness resulting from the virus has been far milder among those who were vaccinated compared to those who did not get the vaccine.

In the week of July 16 to July 22, the State of Florida reported 73,199 new cases for that one week period. That number represents a jump of 3 times the number of cases reported for the week ending two weeks earlier.

So yes, it pisses me off to no end that individuals and big pharma are profiting from COVID 19. Is it a reason for me to think that COVID 19 is not a critical issue in this country and elsewhere in the world? No. No matter how you slice it, the pandemic, including its cause, the dispute over vaccines, and the phony politicization of mask wearing is not something anyone here should dismiss lightly. It is real, it is killing people, and it has changed our way of doing things forever.

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Submitted by CB on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 1:47pm
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is actually the case fatality rate. It is the number of confirmed deaths divided by the number of confirmed cases. What we want is the infection fatality rate. That is a much more difficult number to determine. A great number of people contract the disease and are asymptomatic or have minimal effects. The other factor is comorbidity. A person might be on the edge of death and would expire in a week or month and COVID pushes them over the "edge" - just like a common cold would.

What do we know about the risk of dying from COVID-19?

There is a straightforward question that most people would like answered. If someone is infected with COVID-19, how likely is that person to die?

This question is simple, but surprisingly hard to answer.

Here we explain why that is. We’ll discuss the “case fatality rate”, the “crude mortality rate”, and the “infection fatality rate”, and why they’re all different.
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What we want to know isn’t the case fatality rate: it’s the infection fatality rate

Before we look at what the CFR does tell us about the mortality risk, it is helpful to see what it doesn’t.

Remember the question we asked at the beginning: if someone is infected with COVID-19, how likely is it that they will die? The answer to that question is captured by the infection fatality rate, or IFR.
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To work out the IFR, we need two numbers: the total number of cases and the total number of deaths.

However, as we explain here, the total number of cases of COVID-19 is not known. That’s partly because not everyone with COVID-19 is tested.8,9

We may be able to estimate the total number of cases and use it to calculate the IFR – and researchers do this. But the total number of cases is not known, so the IFR cannot be accurately calculated. And, despite what some media reports imply, the CFR is not the same as – or, probably, even similar to – the IFR. Next, we’ll discuss why.
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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 9:19am
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@CB Like any statistical data,the numbers can be massaged and interpreted in multiple ways. What we can say is that since the advent of the COVID pandemic, Americans are dying at a higher rate than would normally be expected.

In 2019, the most recent year with official death estimates, 2,854,838 Americans died, and 3,747,540 were born. That means that 8.7 people died per 1,000 that year — up from a low of 7.9 deaths per 1,000 people in 2009.
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Using the estimate of the 2020 population from the Census Bureau, the death rate in 2020 was 10.4 deaths per 1,000, the highest death rate since 1943.

One can argue that the significantly higher death rate in 2020 versus the death rates for recent years does not necessarily mean that the precipitating factor for the increased death rate is COVID 19. However, the advent of the COViD 19 pandemic in 2020 cannot be discounted when no other major factor appears to have influenced the sharp rise in the death rate for Americans in 2020.

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 12:46pm
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ie how dangerous it is. You have stated "the mortality rate is less than two percent nationwide". But, if the actual case rates were 2 or 6 times higher, the actual mortality would be 1% or 0.3% respectively.

The excess deaths estimate you have given for 2020 shows 0.17% increase (10.4-8.7)/1000*100 in deaths so that would give a mortality rate 0.17% if all those excess deaths were attributed to COVID. This rate will probably go down next year as we have substantially "culled the herd" of the more vulnerable - aged, comorbidity.

How epidemiological models of COVID-19 help us estimate the true number of infections

A key limitation in our understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic is that we do not know the true number of infections. Instead, we only know of infections that have been confirmed by a test – the confirmed cases. But because many infected people never get tested,2 we know that confirmed cases are only a fraction of true infections. How small a fraction though?

To answer this question, several research groups have developed epidemiological models of COVID-19. These models use the data we have – confirmed cases and deaths, testing rates, and more – plus a range of assumptions and epidemiological knowledge to estimate true infections and other important metrics.

The chart here shows the mean estimates of the true number of daily new infections in the United States from four of the most prominent models.3 For comparison, the number of confirmed cases is also shown.

  • Imperial College London (ICL)
  • The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME)
  • Youyang Gu (YYG)
  • The London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine (LSHTM)

Two things are clear from this chart: All four models agree that true infections far outnumber confirmed cases. But the models disagree by how much, and how infections have changed over time.

When the number of confirmed cases in the US reached a peak in late July 2020, the IHME and LSHTM models estimated that the true number of infections was about twice as high as confirmed cases, the ICL model estimated it was nearly three times as high, and Youyang Gu’s model estimated it was more than six times as high. Back in March the estimated discrepancy between confirmed cases and true infections was even many times higher.

In this post we examine these four models and how they differ by unpacking their essential elements: what they are used for, how they work, the data they are based on, and the assumptions they make.
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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 5:25pm
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@CB what the death rate from COVID is, which was my point in the post above. I am not an expert on any of this, but I have tried to learn some things due to personal reasons. The only thing we can be sure of is that Americans died at a higher rate in 2020 than would normally be expected.

Also IMHO, the death rate is only one factor from this pandemic. There are many people who are long haulers or who have never fully recovered from this disease. This is why preventative measures such as social distancing and masks should have not been dropped from the CDC guidelines. Our f*cking elected officials and top health officials from Fauci on down have been playing politics and lying to us about this pandemic.

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Submitted by ovals49 on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 2:14pm

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for both vaccinated and unvaccinated. The prevailing assumption had been that along with personal protection from serious disease vaccinated individuals also did not not pose the risk of infecting others. That is now understood to not be the case. Although the vaccinated still enjoy substantial protection from hospitalization and death recent studies in Israel have demonstrated that the vaccinated can become infected, particularly with the more virulent variants, and spread their infection to others.

This seriously affects the risk-benefit ratio of the entire vaccine enterprise. Vaccinated good - unvaccinated - bad is now very much an equivocal notion. Both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated can spread the variants and any mitigation strategies need to be applied to both groups. This is reflected in the new CDC guidance for masking indoors, irrespective of vaccine status.

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Submitted by ovals49 on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 2:27pm

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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the president's chief medical adviser, had disclosed over the weekend that walking back the mask guidance for fully vaccinated Americans was "under active consideration,"

Mr. Biden on Thursday is also expected to announce new guidance for federal employees. A memo distributed to federal workers on Tuesday said all federal employees, contractors and visitors in "areas of substantial or high community transmission" will be required to wear masks regardless of vaccination status.

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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 8:14pm
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@ovals49 @ovals49 The CDC KNEW that the Delta variant was sweeping across Europe when they dropped the mask guidelines. This was a political decision, not a science based decision.

They dropped the mask guidelines in an effort to influence people to become vaccinated. What a crock. Those who were against vaccinations were fully wedded to that position for several reasons but mainly because they did not trust the information coming from the US government about the safety of the vaccines. And I do not blame them. I was very skeptical and only became vaccinated because of my mother.

By dropping the mask guidelines, the CDC, in effect, unnecessarily exposed everyone more than what was necessary to contracting the virus in public locations, such as a grocery store. For those of us living in states or locations where the virus has come back with a vengeance, it is scary.

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 1:03pm
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Breakthrough Infections of SARS-CoV-2 Gamma Variant in Fully Vaccinated Gold Miners, French Guiana, 2021
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An outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 caused by the Gamma variant of concern infected 24/44 (55%) employees of a gold mine in French Guiana (87% symptomatic, no severe forms). The attack rate was 60% (15/25) among fully vaccinated miners and 75% (3/4) among unvaccinated miners without a history of infection.
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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 5:17pm
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@CB to think that this plague will never go away but will continue to mutate over and over, and there will be no such thing as herd immunity either.

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 8:19pm
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With such a leaky vaccine there's no way in hell we will ever reach herd immunity. But look on the bright side - it will make a number of people who market the vaccines multi-billionaires.

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Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 3:03pm
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@ovals49 Newest from CNN:

CNN - France

Washington (CNN)The Delta coronavirus variant surging across the United States appears to cause more severe illness and spread as easily as chickenpox, according to an internal document from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The document -- a slide presentation -- outlines unpublished data that shows fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people.
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky confirmed the authenticity of the document, which was first reported by The Washington Post.

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CDC releases study showing 3/4 Delta cases are among the vaccinated, says masks are the answer
30 Jul, 2021

The CDC has released a study backing up its decision to recommend indoor masking for both vaccinated and unvaccinated Americans. The study examined one outbreak and found three-quarters of people testing positive were vaccinated.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) revised its masking guidelines on Tuesday, urging all Americans in areas with high Covid-19 transmission to mask up when indoors, regardless of vaccination status. Mask mandates in companies, government departments, and certain local jurisdictions followed, as CDC Director Rochelle Walensky insisted the decision was made on the back of fresh scientific evidence.
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Submitted by CB on Fri, 07/30/2021 - 1:17pm
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FDA Made ‘Dangerous Error’ by Advising Against COVID Antibody Testing
07/29/21

Antibody testing is critical for determining COVID vaccine efficacy and necessity, but FDA continues to recommend against the testing for anyone, including people who already had COVID and those who have been vaccinated against the virus.

On May 19 the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) released a dangerous and totally inappropriate guidance advising against COVID-19 antibody testing pre- or post-vaccination.

This FDA guidance is dangerous because it discourages and blocks most American physicians from using a gold standard assay for immunity to COVID-19.

But, it is of paramount importance for every American citizen and resident and his/her physician to be able to assess the status of one’s immunity to COVID-19 during this pandemic for two reasons.

First, if a person is found to have no COVID-19 antibodies prior to vaccination, that person will know that he/she is at high risk of developing an infection. In other words, antibody testing would allow determination of medical necessity of COVID-19 vaccination — and being that most persons act rationally given correct information, it is anticipated that most non-immune Americans will seek vaccination when confronted with a negative test.
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Second, the mRNA vaccine is a highly unstable preparation. Thus, it is very likely that a significant number of mRNA vaccine doses entering individual American arms are either partially or completely spoiled — and, thus, ineffective. The fact that FDA’s May 19 guidance is placing a barrier in the way of post-vaccination antibody testing, effectively blocks determination of vaccine efficacy in individual Americans.
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The incorrect May 19 FDA guidance blocking antibody testing was a shocking pronouncement from a medical perspective. Specifically because antibody testing is the gold standard medical test for immunity against EVERY viral and bacterial pathogen known to humankind — SARS-CoV-2 is no exception. The fact that the medical community has not unanimously objected to this dangerous guidance is a testament to the “group-think” governing our medical establishment and compromising American lives every day in many corners of the healthcare sector. “Group-think” kills!
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Here, I am publicly calling on the FDA commissioner and FDA to urgently cease and desist in stoking vaccine hesitancy or leaving some susceptible to infection, by continuing to insist that individual Americans NOT be tested for the status of their antibody immunity to COVID-19, pre- or post-vaccination, respectively.

It is the right of every American to be informed about the status of their own body’s immunity to a potentially deadly pandemic virus. The May 19 FDA advisory has created a major challenge to Americans making an informed decision — both to establish the medical necessity of vaccination AND to ensure that the vaccine doses they have received effectively have induced the expected protective antibody response.
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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 10:13am

President Biden tweet on July 16th, 2021.

"The vaccine was developed and authorized under a Republican Administration and it's been distributed and administered under a Democratic one.
The vaccines are safe and highly effective, and there's nothing political about them."

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/31/2021 - 8:32pm
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But highly effective in creating variants due to the high rate of "breakthrough" cases. The protection they give has a half life of about 180 days. Great for 2 shots per year on a permanent basis.

In 10 years when the patent runs out, the virus will have evolved enough to take out new patents for a further 10 years. By this time they will have turned the tide on the over population problem. I understand they want to get the population under 1 billion by 2050.

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 10:15am

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Biden is claiming that there's no politics attached to the vaccines. This after Kamala said last fall that she wouldn't trust a vaccine that was made during the Trump administration, AND after the Biden White House ranted for the first two months about how the Trump Operation Warp Speed was a mess that the Dems had to clean up (which turned out to be a big exaggeration).

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 10:17am

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vaccines that is not backed up by evidence.

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Submitted by CB on Sun, 08/01/2021 - 1:19pm
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Here's what I based my conjecture on waning vaccine efficacy. Right from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Pfizer Vaccine Protection Wanes After 6 Months Study Finds
July 28, 2021 – Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine continues to show strong protection against serious illness and hospitalization after 6 months, but overall protection against the virus appears to wane after a half a year, according to a new study.

The July 28, 2021, pre-print report of the study, which has not been peer-reviewed, suggests a gradual "declining trend in vaccine efficacy" over 6 months after two doses of the Pfizer vaccine in more than 45,000 people worldwide.

The study finds overall effectiveness falls from 96% to 84%.

At the same time, a third booster dose of the Pfizer vaccine increases neutralizing antibody levels against the Delta variant by more than 5 times, compared to levels after just a second dose in people ages 18 to 55 years old, new data from Pfizer shows.

The third-dose immune response appears even more robust -- more than 11 times higher than the second shot -- among people 65 to 85 years old.

The company noted this could mean an estimated 100-fold increase in Delta variant protection after a third dose. These new findings are outlined in a Pfizer second-quarter 2021 earnings report, which notes that the data is submitted for publication in a medical journal.
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So Pfizer is now looking to add a booster shot which increases $$sales$$ by 50%. There is no way the drug companies can get the world immunized - especially if they have to do booster shots every year.

It appears that Canada is gearing up to make the COVID jab permanent. The following is on top of the 65 million shots they bought for this year for a population of approximately 38 million. It even appears they are thinking about doing 2 shots in 2024 to cover reformulation for the Lambda, Sigma, Upsilon or whatever variants that will be current by then.

Trudeau announces major deal with Pfizer to provide COVID-19 booster shots

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Friday announced that Canada has signed a deal with Pfizer for 35 million booster shots for next year and 30 million for the year after. The deal with Pfizer includes options to add 30 million shots for 2022 and 2023 and an option for 60 million shots in 2024.

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Mon, 08/02/2021 - 10:18am

@CB

In 10 years when the patent runs out, the virus will have evolved enough to take out new patents for a further 10 years. By this time they will have turned the tide on the over population problem. I understand they want to get the population under 1 billion by 2050.

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Submitted by CB on Mon, 08/02/2021 - 2:54pm
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@Fishtroller 02 @Fishtroller 02
But there is an element of truth to them.

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Submitted by Fishtroller 02 on Tue, 08/03/2021 - 11:06am

Can't stand that man!

Lowering our population would be a good thing. Of course if we had universal birth control and abortion available, we wouldn't have to resort to viruses or vaccines.

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