is a very significant question.

In your experience, are these students also presented with quality perspectives that initiate more individual thinking and self-reflection?

Moreover, if we don't address future expenses.

They’re the ones that got the most money from them so why in hell is it our responsibility to pay them back? Can’t cancel student loans because some rich person might get help, but it’s fine to raise the gas tax and keep taxes on food and even pay per mile to get to your job 2 hours away because that’s the only way they can afford housing.

Student loan forgiveness is INCREDIBLY regressive. I know that a lot of people have gotten deep in debt and don't make much money. That sucks. But, by-and-large, a young person who's accrued a lot of debt went to an elite university and probably pulls down a decent salary. Student Debt forgiveness gives this person tens-of-thousands while giving hardly anything back to the Community College student pouring their coffee.

I don't think this is correct. I'm not an economist, but there is a leftist economist, Marshall Steinbaum, who has studied loan forgiveness a good deal and has argued that it is not in fact regressive. See here and here.

I'm also sorry Rojo but all I see in this essay is division. It's IDPol from a leftist perspective. IDPol is BS whether it's from the Clinton wing of the Dem party, fascist whackos, or from hard core leftists. It points to differences and tries to shift and/or assign blame for our troubles from ourselves to "them" solely from an arbitrary assumption of how people think and act based on a assumed membership in some nebulous group. For example, I have no freakin' idea who a Zoomer might be nor do I have any reason to believe that their being called a dick makes them one or not.

IDPol's purpose has always been to separate us not bring us together. Look around. How's that working out?

People are going to support what they think is in their best interests. Don't expect or try to demand they act differently. It never works telling others how they should think and act. The best we can ever hope is to find common ground on which to build an understanding, examine potential solutions, or persuade others to see an issue similarly to us. [Edit: I left out the most important one: or we might learn something we didn't know or understand.] It's a difficult and long term project, usually generational. Telling people they're dicks or telling others that those folks over there are dicks generally neither makes converts to ones position nor allies nor friends. And it is sort of a dick thing to do.

I find your position on student loan forgiveness disturbing. It smacks of a near universal malady found throughout Americans. Someone's getting something I'm not so that's not right, m'kay? Can't have that, can we?

Sorry if I just took a whizz in your Cheerios. Life is really hard for some of us and unusually so the past year. I live amongst people who have much, much harder lives than all but the poorest of my fellow Americans can so much as imagine but have a totally different outlooks on life. They don't complain or point fingers at those they perceive as the reason for their shitty lives. Most just keep working harder, are grateful for what little they do have, help each other, and somehow just get the shitty part of living done. Oh, and they really enjoy themselves doing it. It's made me very sensitive to finger pointing and stuff the serves to further divide us. I can't let it go when I see it from yet another corner of the American political scene.

Nothing personal, just another perspective. Now, off to bed. I'll deal with any aftermath tomorrow. Maybe.

I guess I won't get to hear his definition of a Zoomer.
Markos, is that you?