News Dump Friday: Poor, White-Guys Edition

Still not recovered from 2008

By some measures, though, people in their prime working years have a long way to go to recoup the losses of the 2007-09 recession -- and white men are further behind than most. On average over the three months through March, a nonseasonally adjusted 86 percent of white men between the ages of 25 and 54 were employed, 2.3 percentage points (or about 1.1 million jobs) short of the average level in the 10 years before the recession. That's a larger shortfall than any other group -- including black men, whose employment-to-population ratio stood 2.1 percentage points, or 156,000 jobs, short of its pre-recession level (though their baseline was much higher).

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To be sure, the extra 1.1 million out-of-work white guys aren't necessarily the same people showing up at Trump rallies. That said, middle-aged white males' progress toward economic recovery has been protracted enough to generate a good deal of frustration.
The malaise goes far beyond the political. Most of the prime-age jobless don’t show up in the unemployment numbers because they aren’t actively looking for work -- and in many cases are already on disability. If they don’t get back into the labor force, their absence could permanently impair the economy's capacity to grow.
Whatever happens, middle-aged white men are a demographic group to be reckoned with, numbering about 48 million (not including those in the military or in prison). The more they feel left behind, the stranger U.S. politics may become.

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Pre-2008: We were on borrowed money/time

Americans lost so much in 2008 — jobs and homes, incomes and wealth — that the recession still dominates the public mood three elections later.
They lost something else too, something less talked-about on the campaign trail: a credit lifeline. For households before the crash, borrowing made good times better and hard times bearable....
Between 2000 and 2007, borrowed money was adding about $330 billion a year to Americans’ purchasing power, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. By 2009, households were diverting $150 billion to pay back debt — a swing of almost half a trillion dollars, even without counting the impact of lost jobs.
Enter Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.

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That macro picture doesn’t tell the whole story, though.
Debt —and the ability to repay it — aren’t distributed equally. Especially after the subprime lending boom, the lower-income groups have the heaviest debt burden, according to New America’s study. That’s one reason deleveraging is weighing so much on the recovery. It takes cash away from the people most likely to spend it.
For many Americans, the end of the credit cycle was jarring. Lifestyles had been built around that extra cash, and people just hadn’t realized it could disappear, according to Diane Gray, a vice president at Navicore Solutions, a nonprofit financial counseling service in New Jersey....
She’s noticed another trend that may be more troubling, though. Before the crisis, customers would take out unsecured loans — typically more expensive than mortgages or auto financing — for perks such as vacations. Now, they’re often being used to cover basic living expenses.

Trump is damaging the GOP brand

A recent CNN poll, for example, showed a steady decline in the public's estimation of Republicans over the last year. Last August, 54 percent the poll's respondents rated Republicans unfavorably. By this March, that number had risen 7 percentage points to 61 percent -- as negative ratings of Democrats were falling by 3 percentage points.
In contrast to the Republicans, Democrats are looked at quite favorably by the public. In the Bloomberg poll, 51 percent gave Democrats a favorable rating against 43 percent unfavorable, the party's best numbers in seven years.
And the Republican brand is in trouble across the board. Independents, by a margin of 63 percent to 28 percent, regard Republicans less favorably than the public at large. Geographically, there is a negative majority even in the strongest Republican region, the South. In the Midwest, unfavorable ratings outnumber favorable ones by more than two to one.
Bad feelings toward Republicans have intensified among women, which many polling experts attribute to Trump. By two-to-one margins, women, including married women, where Republicans usually do better, give the party unfavorable marks.

Basic Income is better than minimum wage

Sweden, along with some other countries with big social safety nets -- Denmark, Norway, Switzerland -- doesn't have a legally mandated minimum wage. Instead, the minimum salary is collectively bargained. The country's strong unions and socially responsible employers make sure that, at 20,000 kronor ($2,468) per month, it reaches about 64 percent of the average wage -- more than twice the U.S. rate....
The immigrant problem is just one illustration of why it may not be a good idea for governments to try to regulate the labor market instead of pursuing their ultimate goal -- that of making sure people aren't "dying on the street," as Donald Trump likes to put it. It's dawning on politicians in some countries that tying basic subsistence to work through the minimum wage is not the most logical way to achieve social justice.
These countries are experimenting with a universal basic income that will be paid to all, whether they work or not. A Finnish government working group tasked with trying out the scheme proposed parameters for a pilot project on Wednesday: Up to 10,000 people are to start receiving 550 euros ($627) per month next year. Finland's economy is struggling -- it's still smaller than it was in 2008 -- but the government calculates it can provide a basic, secure income to its entire population by cutting up the current benefit system.
Other countries looking at the scheme include Canada, where the province of Ontario is starting a pilot project this year, New Zealand, where the second biggest party in parliament is interested in adopting the idea as part of its platform, and the Netherlands, where four cities are piloting basic income programs. In June, Switzerland will hold a referendum on universal basic income, but the chances of success there are rather slim.
The idea is radical and it sounds like money for nothing to many people, but it has more of a libertarian flavor than a Communist one. By guaranteeing basic survival, a government provides a service as necessary as, say, policing the streets or fighting off foreign enemies. At the same time, once this service is provided, the government can get out of trying to regulate the labor market: Its goal of keeping people fed and clothed is already achieved. The Finnish government believes the basic income scheme will encourage the currently unemployed to take part-time jobs, which they avoided for fear of losing their benefits.
Many people may agree to work for less than the current minimum wage, and on more flexible terms, if they're supplementing a guaranteed income, not scrambling to avoid having to beg for food...
It's not the government's business to tell private companies how much they should pay their workers. It is the government's business, however, to help citizens feel less precarious and more secure. Businesses and wealthy individuals may well be prepared to trade the end of wage regulation and other rigid labor market rules for the higher taxes that may be necessary to make basic income work.
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detroitmechworks's picture

and spent over 1000 dollars to pay the expenses for the month. (Bills I HAD to pay this month because last month I had emergencies with my kids and a broken foot.) Doesn't leave me with much left considering I'm only 70% disabled.

On the plus side, looks like I MAY be able to afford a decent computer in the next couple of months. A local business has one in stock with ALMOST everything I want. Even Windows 7... Only 600, and fully upgradeable. Whoot. Guy promised to put it on layaway for me if he still has it next month, so fingers crossed. (Will need about 2-300 worth of upgrades, but it's the INITIAL investment that's the big thing...)

Now to fill out the paperwork to STAY on Food Stamps, because I have had 3 months and need to prove that I haven't suddenly got rich...

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

progdog's picture

What kind of processor are you looking at? How much RAM? What type of storage? Wink

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prog - weirdo | dog - woof

detroitmechworks's picture

500 Watt Power supply, Radeon graphics card but the owner promises to install any aftermarket I want for free up to 6 months after I buy it...
Quad Core Processor (AMD, I forget the exact speed)
And a Terabyte Hard Drive.

Overall, pretty decent mid-range system, that will let me run most stuff. Right Now my 8 year old HP Pavilion takes ten minutes to boot in the morning, and that's AFTER a thorough virus and malware check.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

The "real" unemployment rate is close to Depression-era levels (23 percent, versus 25 percent during the Great Depression). America has not recovered from Bush's Great Recession. Probably most of us here are aware that the so-called "recovery" replaced many middle-class jobs with low-wage jobs. Economists have pointed out that lost productivity due to unemployment can never be recovered. The same can be said for lost productivity due to under-employment.

I can't quite shake the feeling that Donald Trump is epically trolling the Tea-GOP. He takes their carefully-crafted dog-whistle talking points, translates them into crude racist/sexist diatribes and shouts it all into a bullhorn. His latest gaffe got him in trouble with both sides of the long-running abortion debate.

The L.A. Times, today: Donald Trump is now the least popular American politician in three decades

The share of Americans with an unfavorable view of Trump is extraordinary: 68% in the most recent Bloomberg poll, 67% in the CNN/ORC survey, 67% in the ABC/Washington Post poll, 65% from Gallup...

George W. Bush and Dick Cheney never broke 60% unfavorable. Trump has done the seemingly impossible.

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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."

Can we fire them?

“Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else,” Brooks wrote March 18th.

“Moreover,” continued the man who thought invading Iraq would be a cakewalk, “many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation. We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough. For me, it’s a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country.”
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On March 28th fellow Timesman Nicholas Kristof, famous for taking young men and women to Third World nations devastated by U.S. foreign policy (though I doubt he tells them why those dumps look so dumpy), went even further, in a piece titled “My Shared Shame: The Media Helped Make Trump.”

“We were largely oblivious to the pain among working-class Americans and thus didn’t appreciate how much his message resonated,” Kristof wrote.

Most Americans are working-class. In other words, Kristof and his colleagues admit they don’t cover the problems that affect most Americans. Again: why does he still have a job?

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Just over 100% of recovery jobs

That’s a key implication of new research that indicates the proportion of American workers who don’t have traditional jobs — who instead work as independent contractors, through temporary services or on-call — has soared in the last decade. They account for vastly more American workers than the likes of Uber alone.

Most remarkably, the number of Americans using these alternate work arrangements rose 9.4 million from 2005 to 2015. That was greater than the rise in overall employment, meaning there was a small net decline in the number of workers with conventional jobs.
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The labor economists Lawrence F. Katz of Harvard and Alan B. Krueger of Princeton found that the percentage of workers in “alternative work arrangements” — including working for temporary help agencies, as independent contractors, for contract firms or on-call — was 15.8 percent in the fall of 2015, up from 10.1 percent a decade earlier. (Only 0.5 percent of all workers did so through “online intermediaries,” and most of those appear to have been Uber drivers.)

And the shift away from conventional jobs and into these more distant employer-employee relationships accelerated in the last decade. By contrast, from 1995 to 2005, the proportion had edged up only slightly, to 10.1 percent from 9.3 percent. (The data are based on a person’s main job, so someone with a full-time position who does freelance work on the side would count as a conventional employee.)

This change in behavior has profound implications on social insurance. More so than in many advanced countries, employers in the United States carry a lot of the burden of protecting their workers from the things that can go wrong in life. They frequently provide health insurance, and paid medical leave for employees who become ill.

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RantingRooster's picture

incarceration rate that is untenable. I wonder, if there was a basic income, if crime would drop any?

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C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote

thanatokephaloides's picture

We have a huge incarceration rate that is untenable. I wonder, if there was a basic income, if crime would drop any?

Not without also legalizing/decriminalizing drugs. Marijuana needs to enjoy the exact same status as tobacco or alcohol, nationwide. Most other "street" drugs need to be decriminalized. Opioids need to be decriminalized and the government needs to get and stay the fuck out of medical decisions to provide them to pain sufferers -- even if that means an increase in abuse of those same drugs.

The incarceration rates caused by our current drug laws do more harm than the drugs can do. And this is also responsible for far more harm than poverty is -- and I realize that's saying quite a bit!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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“Trump voters are a coalition of the dispossessed. They have suffered lost jobs, lost wages, lost dreams. The American system is not working for them, so naturally they are looking for something else,” Brooks wrote March 18th.

“Moreover,” continued the man who thought invading Iraq would be a cakewalk, “many in the media, especially me, did not understand how they would express their alienation. We expected Trump to fizzle because we were not socially intermingled with his supporters and did not listen carefully enough. For me, it’s a lesson that I have to change the way I do my job if I’m going to report accurately on this country.”

David Brooks to visit America for the first time.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.