Open Thread WE 6 JAN 21

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:00am

The timeless art of joinery - mortise and tenon, pegged - no nails or screws. Structures standing for thousands of years. A patient understanding of the wood element. Tree of Life.

“The sawdust flew. A slightly sweet fragrance floated in the immediate area. It was a sweet but subtle aroma, neither the scent of pine nor willow, but one from the past that had been forgotten, only to reappear now after all these years, fresher than ever. The workmen occasionally scooped up a handful of sawdust, which they put into their mouths and swallowed. Before that they had chewed on pieces of green bark that they had stripped from the cut wood. It had the same fragrance and it freshened their mouths, so at first that was what they had used. Now even though they were no longer chewing the bark with which they felt such a bond, the stack of corded wood was a very appealing sight. From time to time they gave the logs a friendly slap or kick. Each time they sawed off a section, which rolled to the ground from the sawhorse, they would say:\
'Off with you - go over there and lie down where you belong.'
What they were thinking was that big pieces of lumber like this should be used to make tables or chairs or to repair a house or make window frames; wood like this was hard to find.
But now they were cutting it into kindling to be burned in stoves, a sad ending for good wood like this. They could see a comparison with their own lives, and this was a saddening thought. ("North China")”

― Xiao Hong, Selected Stories Of Xiao Hong

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KqIIOyuo1Q&feature=emb_logo]

“Age, that brings a dwindling to most forms of life, is at its most majestic in the trees. I have seen living olives that were planted when Caesar was in Gaul. I remember, in Illinois woods, a burr oak which was bent over as a sapling a hundred years ago, to mark an Indian portage trail, and the thews in that flexed bough were still in the prime of life. Compared to that, the strongest human sinew is feeble and quick to decay. Yet structure in both cases is cellular; life in both is protoplasmic. A tree drinks water as I do, and breathes oxygen. There is the difference that it exhales more oxygen than it consumes, so that it sweetens the air where it grows. It lays the dust and tempers the wind. Even when it is felled, it but enters on a new kind of life. Sawn and seasoned and finished, it lays bare the hidden beauty of its heart, in figures and grains more lovely than the most premeditated design. It is stronger, now, than it was in the living tree, and may bear great strains and take many shapes.”

― Donald Culross Peattie, American Heartwood

[video:https://youtu.be/hRZqlsYg9SY]

“This fusion of wood and water is an entrancing thing. Without the wood the stream would be nothing: a mere thin watercourse winding through its flat meadows. Without the water the wood, on its slope and with its air of quietness and mystery and of being a world within itself, could not help being a constantly delightful thing. But water and wood, together, shading and watering and bounding each other, each give to the other something which the other does not possess, the wood giving to the stream something solid and shadowy and immemorial, the stream giving to the wood all the incomparable movement and twinkling transcience of moving water, the tree shadows standing deep in the stream, the reflection of sunlight flickering a kind of waterlight up into the shadowy branches of pine and alder. The wood and the water are here, in fact, one, for each other and with each other. It is a fusion that is almost perfect.”

― H.E. Bates, Through the Woods

Images: Todaiji Temple Nara, Japan 東大寺, 728 CE
Peach Blossom Store, Lee Me Kyeoung, South Korea

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Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:06am

We three Kings of Orient are… ’tis Epiphany in Christendom…

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=epiphany+hymn+three+kings&iar=videos&iax=video...

And maybe it’s easier to understand “the Squad” if we apprehend the clear distinction, in politics as in STEM fields, between “theoretical” and “applied”:

https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fire

Aside from anti-Trump revenge fantasies, actually changing anything would be applied firefighting.

And:
The Tolkien letters that changed C.S. Lewis’s life

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 8:35am

Theoretically

@lotlizard

voters apply their democratic power to shape their government. Ha!

Thanks for the Tolkien letters.

You look at trees and label them just so,
(for trees are ‘trees’, and growing is ‘to grow’);
you walk the earth and tread with solemn pace
one of the many minor globes of Space:

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Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 6:29am

Hey there. Well it's the last day of the twelve days of

Christmas; the feast of the Epiphany; the visit of the three kings; in France the Gallette des Rois (cake of kings - where everybody wears a paper crown, takes a piece of cake and looks for the little baby baked into the cake.)

So here is one of my favorite songs of all time. This key is hard for my voice range, but mr. meta and I have sung this for a UCC service years ago.

I have access to many versions of this, but younger Steve was so strung out that it is too hard to watch. This has back up vocals with Mariah McKee. I really like the Dobro. Emmy Lou has done this with Steve too.

It was written for a Christmas album by the Oakridge Boys but not used. So he released it on 'Copperhead Road'.

This one of the best songs written and sung by Steve Earle. I like the long 'A' sound in this which others have imitated like the Trail Band from Oregon when they had their Texas guitar player.

Sorry in advance for the religious nature of the visuals, but it was nicely put together by a contributor. Lots of famous western European painters in this plus cheesy art.
[video:https://youtu.be/f0CAIx1cmUg]

The lyrics:
Once upon a time, in a far off land
Wise men saw a sign and set out across the sand
Songs of praise to sing, they travelled day and night
Precious gifts to bring, guided by the light
They chased a brand new star, ever towards the west
Across the mountains far, but when it came to rest
They scarce believed their eyes, they'd come so many miles
And this miracle they prized was nothing but a child
Nothing but a child could wash those tears away
Or guide a weary world into the light of day
And nothing but a child could help erase those miles
So once again we all can be children for awhile
Now all around the world, in every little town
Everyday is heard a precious little sound
And every mother kind and every father proud
Looks down in awe to find another chance allowed
Nothing but a child could wash those tears away
Or guide a weary world into the light of day
And nothing but a child could help erase those miles
So once again we all can be children for awhile
Nothing but a child

Older Steve explaining the history and singing live:
[video:https://youtu.be/14QBZNq7d6A]

Original recording group: Sam Bush (we saw in Charlotte, NC), Edgar Meyer (Bass) (we saw many times at the Chamber Music NW summer series), Mark O'Connor (Ashville, NC), Jerry Douglas (Champeogh Park, Oregon), Mariah McKee. Released on Copperhead Road.
[video:https://youtu.be/NvCGMN1s2es]

Happy New Year Caucus 99!

Edited to fix video links.

Edit to thank you QMS for the lovely open thread. Here in France a lot of the second story of stone houses has 'charpente apparente' or open carpentry. Large A-frame style branches, or hewn trunks, pinned or pegged with no nails. Visible in an open beam fashion. They are fabulous to see and as far as we have seen, throughout the country.

charpente apparente

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 8:43am

Wow, Steve Earle

@Dawn's Meta

New to me, where have I been? Good stuff.

Your 'charpente apparente' reminds me of the old barn
where I grew up in Michigan. Post and beam, white oak.

hope you find a baby in your cake

Christmas; the feast of the Epiphany; the visit of the three kings; in France the Gallette des Rois (cake of kings - where everybody wears a paper crown, takes a piece of cake and looks for the little baby baked into the cake.) So here is one of my favorite songs of all time. This key is hard for my voice range, but mr. meta and I have sung this for a UCC service years ago. I have access to many versions of this, but younger Steve was so strung out that it is too hard to watch. This has back up vocals with Mariah McKee. I really like the Dobro. Emmy Lou has done this with Steve too. It was written for a Christmas album by the Oakridge Boys but not used. So he released it on 'Copperhead Road'. This one of the best songs written and sung by Steve Earle. I like the long 'A' sound in this which others have imitated like the Trail Band from Oregon when they had their Texas guitar player. Sorry in advance for the religious nature of the visuals, but it was nicely put together by a contributor. Lots of famous western European painters in this plus cheesy art. [video:https://youtu.be/f0CAIx1cmUg] The lyrics: Once upon a time, in a far off land Wise men saw a sign and set out across the sand Songs of praise to sing, they travelled day and night Precious gifts to bring, guided by the light They chased a brand new star, ever towards the west Across the mountains far, but when it came to rest They scarce believed their eyes, they'd come so many miles And this miracle they prized was nothing but a child Nothing but a child could wash those tears away Or guide a weary world into the light of day And nothing but a child could help erase those miles So once again we all can be children for awhile Now all around the world, in every little town Everyday is heard a precious little sound And every mother kind and every father proud Looks down in awe to find another chance allowed Nothing but a child could wash those tears away Or guide a weary world into the light of day And nothing but a child could help erase those miles So once again we all can be children for awhile Nothing but a child Older Steve explaining the history and singing live: [video:https://youtu.be/14QBZNq7d6A] Original recording group: Sam Bush (we saw in Charlotte, NC), Edgar Meyer (Bass) (we saw many times at the Chamber Music NW summer series), Mark O'Connor (Ashville, NC), Jerry Douglas (Champeogh Park, Oregon), Mariah McKee. Released on Copperhead Road. [video:https://youtu.be/NvCGMN1s2es] Happy New Year Caucus 99! Edited to fix video links. Edit to thank you QMS for the lovely open thread. Here in France a lot of the second story of stone houses has 'charpente apparente' or open carpentry. Large A-frame style branches, or hewn trunks, pinned or pegged with no nails. Visible in an open beam fashion. They are fabulous to see and as far as we have seen, throughout the country. charpente apparente

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Submitted by Dawn's Meta on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 9:08am

Until mr. meta came along, I was all classical and a bit of

@QMS Paul Whiteman Gershwin, oh and Lawrence Welk. Oops left out the college rock n' roll awakening. But had never known singer/songwriter style as something specific. Then, Steve Earle, John Hiatt, and many others like Dylan of course covered by many. Just didn't get the specific genre.

Steve was one of those musicians who was going to leave early due to drug abuse or get past it. Sadly, he just lost his son.

I now love the singer/songwriter stuff for lyrics and music.

When we were able to sing with our French community choir, this week would be all the Sopranos and Altos providing Gallettes, and after Friday practice handing out pieces of cake. Then the lucky few who found the figure were clapped for. Simple pleasures.

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 7:34am

Ode to trees and wood working

...two of my favorite things. The Easterners have had several more centuries to learn than us. I love the Eric Sloane books on early American woodworking. Here's some of his drawings.

I'm more a wood butcher...make it work approach. A finish carpenter I am not. My skill is in design and ease of construction.

I hate to cut down trees, but I need to do some thinning. The forests grows quicker than you think over 30 years. I've got some large pines shading my winter garden I would like to harvest. I'm playing with the idea of building a caretaker house with our trees. I recognize the day is coming (sooner rather than later) when getting on the roof and other such tasks need to be done by younger folks.

Looking likely the GA senate races were won by the dims. They ain't no great guns, but I'm glad to see the two rethug billionaires get it handed to them. None the less, still betting on gridlock myself.

Thanks for the OT and the Epiphany provided by loti and D. Meta too. Have a good day y'all!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 9:04am

Love the old drawings

@Lookout

by Eric Sloan, especially the old tools and their applications.
Kind of a wood butcher myself, but have delved into hand joinery
in the past. A very satisfying medium to work in.

The powerful winds around here are thinning out the older trees,
a steady supply of firewood. Hate to see them fall, but growing more
maples to replenish the canopy. Have some bamboo too.

So the dems got a leg up in GA? Wonder if the pubs will fight that as well.

Cheers!

Path to Zen by Jamie Pham

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 9:02am

Good morning, QMS ~

Thanks for the OT. Asian culture is so very interesting - they've had thousands of years to get it right. American culture, on the other hand, is a toddler. It seems we are now having terrible two tantrums. I thought we were way past that, but we've been shown that we are in the middle of it.

Enjoy the day!

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 9:28am

So once again we all can be children for awhile

@Raggedy Ann

The concept of epiphany is an attractive one.
So few realized during a lifetime.

Good luck!

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 2:31pm

I think we are "still" in it.

So once again we all can be children for awhile

@QMS ~ we've actually never come out of it in the 200+ years of the American experiment.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 10:51am

Good morning QMS. Looks like a ton of wonderful

heree today, but I've got to get fetting, so will return for a deep dive later. Just dropped by now to say good joinery, like good music, poetry and other art is great and thank you very much

be well and have a good one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by randtntx on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 11:57am

The materials of the earth

yield astonishing things. Wood can be so beautiful, just the visible grain, the feel of the wood, and the inherent variation in color is a work of art.

I love the respect the Japanese woodworkers in your essay have for the wood. They convey a sense of gratitude and a realization of the enormous value of the trees.

Thanks for a beautiful OT.

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 12:25pm

wood grain, life rings

@randtntx

there is a sensual pleasure in polishing the grains to make a fair surface

"piano finish"

showing grain

and the rough stuff

cheers

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:28pm

do you remember the wood works of Knucklehead?

@QMS
It is so sad that one doesn't know what has become of the many who were favorites of mine on TOP.

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Submitted by magiamma on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 11:57am

morning q

hmmm...

Overcast and cool. DC Kabuki continues.

This is way south of here but, just wow.

New precautions urged for L.A. County residents because COVID-19 is ‘everywhere’

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-05/la-county-residents-...

The risk of getting coronavirus in Los Angeles County has never been greater.
About one in every five people getting tested for the coronavirus are positive — a quintupling since Nov. 1.
And conditions are expected to worsen in the coming weeks as people who got infected during the winter holidays get sick.
...
New guidance
Los Angeles County and the rest of Southern California remain under a stay-at-home order, which was extended last week. But officials are also offering more specific suggestions:
• If you’re going to work or to buy groceries, try never to remove your face covering when near others.
• Avoid eating or drinking with anyone not in your household.
• Wash or sanitize your hands every hour if you’re around others.
• Take a break from shopping.
• Don’t go to any gatherings with people outside your household.
• Exercise by yourself or only with others from your household.
“The anticipated surge from the winter holiday gatherings is done,” Ferrer said. “And tens upon tens of thousands of people are paying the price with new COVID-19 infections. The increases in cases are likely to continue for weeks to come, as a result of holiday and New Year’s Eve parties and returning travelers.”
...
Who is getting sick?
Coronavirus daily case rate by race and ethnicity:
Latino: 1,696 coronavirus cases per 100,000 Latino residents
Black: 752 coronavirus cases per 100,000 Black residents
White: 636 coronavirus cases per 100,000 white residents
Asian American: 519 coronavirus cases per 100,000 Asian American residents
COVID-19 weekly rate of hospitalizations:
Latino: 80 hospitalizations per 100,000 Latino residents
Black: 58 hospitalizations per 100,000 Black residents
White: 26 hospitalizations per 100,000 white residents
Asian American: 26 hospitalizations per 100,000 Asian American residents
...
In Los Angeles County on Monday, an additional 79 coronavirus-related deaths and 10,851 new infections were reported. The county is now averaging 184 deaths a day over the last week — the equivalent of someone dying of COVID-19 every eight minutes — and about 13,500 cases a day, a count expected to grow because many testing sites were closed for the New Year’s holiday.

Take good care and be safe everyone...

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 12:10pm

Hey magi

sounds scary.
--the equivalent of someone dying of COVID-19 every eight minutes
just in one county. How is the ~~best~~ most expensive
health care in the world working out now?

good luck

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 12:20pm

Can someone explain to me what Kamala Harris is up to?

I fear that lady's power. No trust in her. I have heard some remarks 'en passant', which I didn"t quite understand, but they left me scared. I don't want to be impolite, but I have something non-flattering in my head. Can someone summarize what she could do in what kind of scenario?

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 12:30pm

Good question mimi

@mimi @mimi

Best guess she is up to anything the PTB wants of her.
Replace slow Joe, institute martial law, name it.
A political prosecutor in power is potentially a pissy affair.

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 12:35pm

She will take over Pence's job

@mimi

Which has a little more meaning than usual because she will be the deciding vote in the 50-50 senate.

I have no faith in 'wave in the wind' Kopmala.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:25pm

yes, thank you, that was what made me scared.

@Lookout

holes in the cheese of my brain ... thanks for helping me out.

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Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 2:56pm

♫ You say you want a revolution, we-e-ell, you know…

Live stream of protestors storming the Capitol, a woman has reportedly been shot in the head…

https://entropystream.live/app/leofong

There was a clip of protestors in the House chambers. Storming of the Winter Palace, like a Sergei Eisenshtein film but for real, ten days that shook the world?

Does anyone have access to a non-partisan, objective view of what’s happening at this moment on the ground?

UPDATE: Whoops, looks like the Big Switch was thrown and on-the-spot Internet feeds from Washington DC have been cut off…?

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigElectricSwitchk

UPDATE: Found another live stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzslt4HxT0

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 2:50pm

Try this

@lotlizard

https://www.fox5dc.com/live

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Submitted by Dr. John Carpenter on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 2:58pm

I'd like this also

@lotlizard

Does anyone have access to a non-partisan, objective view of what’s happening at this moment on the ground?

The coverage I'm watching on NBC is vomitous.

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Submitted by WoodsDweller on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:51pm

Someone will make a documentary about this

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1346911179042484230

Ted Cruz (still think you picked the right side, Ted?):

Those storming the Capitol need to stop NOW.
The Constitution protects peaceful protest, but violence—from Left or Right— is ALWAYS wrong.
And those engaged in violence are hurting the cause they say they support.

https://www.rawstory.com/wheres-the-national-guard/

Pelosi requests National Guard protection -- but awaits Trump's DOD approval

DC Mayor Muriel Bowser had already asked for the National Guard to help with security for the protests. ... CNN reported that an officer radioed in reporting "officer in distress" and begging for back up. ... House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) also sent a distress call asking for the National Guard be deployed to the U.S. Capitol. ... Washington Post reporter Aaron Davis reported that a source said "the Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol."

https://www.rawstory.com/guns-drawn-inside-house-chamber-theres-an-armed...

Guns drawn inside House chamber as Trump mob provokes an armed standoff

Capitol Police drew guns on the floor of the House chamber after supporters of Donald Trump stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
...
Members now evacuating the House chamber.
...
They’re barricading the doors.
...
They’re shooting into the chamber.

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346906369232920576

Police officers are holding them steps away from the Senate chamber, which is locked. Senators are inside. I see a few confederate flags.
...
ome sort of gas has been set off. I’m not sure by whom. Police seem to be trying to deescalate and talk to them.
...
Protesters are on the third floor of the Senate, walking door to door, shouting “Where the fuck are they?”
...
They’re in the chamber. One is up on the dais yelling “Trump won that election!” This is insane

This is the DAWNing of the Age of Aquarius...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suLz6HUOqiM]

How can you have a successful revolution if everyone is busy taking selfies?

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2649770497/

Pence evacuated from Senate floor as angry Trump mob breaks into the Capitol building

According to @MSNBC, @VP has been ushered by @SecretService out of the Capitol through underground tunnels after br… https://t.co/7uUI1ReMMZ
— Steve Herman

Someone will have to piece together the time line, but this seems like the flash point...

Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
— Donald J. Trump

Boom.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9nZT6vqqp0]

https://www.rawstory.com/joe-biden-tells-trump-stop-siege/

Joe Biden calls on Trump to end 'siege' on Capitol 'under unprecedented assault'

"At this hour, our democracy's under unprecedented assault. Unlike anything, we've seen in modern times. An assault on the citadel of liberty, the capitol itself. An assault on the people's representatives and the Capitol Hill police, sworn to protect them.

"And the public servants who work at the heart of our republic. An assault on the rule of law like few times we've ever seen it. An assault on the most sacred of American undertakings. The doing of the people's business. Let me be very clear: the scenes of chaos at the Capitol do not reflect a true America. Do not represent who we are. What we're seeing are a small number of extremists dedicated to lawlessness. This is not dissent. It's disorder. It's chaos. It borders on sedition. And it must end now.

"I call on this mob to pull back and allow the work of democracy to go forward," Biden said. "You heard me say before in different contexts, the words of a president matter. No matter how good or bad that president is. At their best, the words of a president can inspire. At their worst, they can incite. Therefore, I call on President Trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the Constitution and demand an end to this siege."

Yeah, good luck with that one, Joe.

John Iadarola @johniadarola 1h
Thinking about how many times those who feared this fascist movement were smeared as being hysterical.

https://twitter.com/nytmike

BREAKING: Explosive device found at RNC -- DNC has been evacuated.

This has gone well beyond a political story. We don’t know where the vice president and speaker of the House have taken refuge. It’s unclear who controls the Capitol and there’s no clear plan for how the government will be able to wrest back control of it.

But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8AmU6D3my0]

Not sure that's really going to help...

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"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone

Submitted by usefewersyllables on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 2:55pm

What a time for my

@WoodsDweller

goddamned popcorn popper to pack it in.

It's amazing: if this had been an OWS or BLM action, they'd long since be stacking bodies up out on the lawn and bringing out the bulldozers to dig the mass grave.

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1346911179042484230

Ted Cruz (still think you picked the right side, Ted?):

Those storming the Capitol need to stop NOW.
The Constitution protects peaceful protest, but violence—from Left or Right— is ALWAYS wrong.
And those engaged in violence are hurting the cause they say they support.

https://www.rawstory.com/wheres-the-national-guard/

Pelosi requests National Guard protection -- but awaits Trump's DOD approval

DC Mayor Muriel Bowser had already asked for the National Guard to help with security for the protests. ... CNN reported that an officer radioed in reporting "officer in distress" and begging for back up. ... House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) also sent a distress call asking for the National Guard be deployed to the U.S. Capitol. ... Washington Post reporter Aaron Davis reported that a source said "the Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol."

https://www.rawstory.com/guns-drawn-inside-house-chamber-theres-an-armed...

Guns drawn inside House chamber as Trump mob provokes an armed standoff

Capitol Police drew guns on the floor of the House chamber after supporters of Donald Trump stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
...
Members now evacuating the House chamber.
...
They’re barricading the doors.
...
They’re shooting into the chamber.

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346906369232920576

Police officers are holding them steps away from the Senate chamber, which is locked. Senators are inside. I see a few confederate flags.
...
ome sort of gas has been set off. I’m not sure by whom. Police seem to be trying to deescalate and talk to them.
...
Protesters are on the third floor of the Senate, walking door to door, shouting “Where the fuck are they?”
...
They’re in the chamber. One is up on the dais yelling “Trump won that election!” This is insane

This is the DAWNing of the Age of Aquarius...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suLz6HUOqiM]

How can you have a successful revolution if everyone is busy taking selfies?

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2649770497/

Pence evacuated from Senate floor as angry Trump mob breaks into the Capitol building

According to @MSNBC, @VP has been ushered by @SecretService out of the Capitol through underground tunnels after br… https://t.co/7uUI1ReMMZ
— Steve Herman

Someone will have to piece together the time line, but this seems like the flash point...

Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
— Donald J. Trump

Boom.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9nZT6vqqp0]

https://www.rawstory.com/joe-biden-tells-trump-stop-siege/

Joe Biden calls on Trump to end 'siege' on Capitol 'under unprecedented assault'

"At this hour, our democracy's under unprecedented assault. Unlike anything, we've seen in modern times. An assault on the citadel of liberty, the capitol itself. An assault on the people's representatives and the Capitol Hill police, sworn to protect them.

"And the public servants who work at the heart of our republic. An assault on the rule of law like few times we've ever seen it. An assault on the most sacred of American undertakings. The doing of the people's business. Let me be very clear: the scenes of chaos at the Capitol do not reflect a true America. Do not represent who we are. What we're seeing are a small number of extremists dedicated to lawlessness. This is not dissent. It's disorder. It's chaos. It borders on sedition. And it must end now.

"I call on this mob to pull back and allow the work of democracy to go forward," Biden said. "You heard me say before in different contexts, the words of a president matter. No matter how good or bad that president is. At their best, the words of a president can inspire. At their worst, they can incite. Therefore, I call on President Trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the Constitution and demand an end to this siege."

Yeah, good luck with that one, Joe.

John Iadarola @johniadarola 1h
Thinking about how many times those who feared this fascist movement were smeared as being hysterical.

https://twitter.com/nytmike

BREAKING: Explosive device found at RNC -- DNC has been evacuated.

This has gone well beyond a political story. We don’t know where the vice president and speaker of the House have taken refuge. It’s unclear who controls the Capitol and there’s no clear plan for how the government will be able to wrest back control of it.

But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8AmU6D3my0]

Not sure that's really going to help...

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:04pm

the cops are moving in

@usefewersyllables @usefewersyllables
from Maryland
plus the fibbeis
plus the mayor has called in the national guard
plus secret service.
trying to clear the capital by dark
fox sucks, but it is live

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Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:10pm

I’m watching this random MAGA guy’s feed—he seems to be just

@QMS
outside one of the Capitol building’s doors, part of a big crowd milling around.

There are Epoch Times live news feeds too, but I’m avoiding them — AFAIK, that’s a Falun Gong setup = CIA front.

Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:44pm

@QMS I watch AlJazeera TV

@QMS I watch AlJazeera TV and CNN right now. The protestors have continuous fist fights inside the Capitol. Police does not seem to be aggressive. One woman has been shot and is in critical conditions.

Oh, well, all the reactions from Biden, Axelrod and Trump are 'polite'. I came to this late. The National Guard is inside the building.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by ggersh on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:29pm

how many trillions are spent on "homeland security" again?

@usefewersyllables Yet they couldn't stop a few thousand Trump supporters from storming the castle

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:05pm

Lenin said Germans were too compliant to have a revolution

@WoodsDweller
He said they were the kind of people who would buy a platform access ticket.before storming a train station.

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1346911179042484230

Ted Cruz (still think you picked the right side, Ted?):

Those storming the Capitol need to stop NOW.
The Constitution protects peaceful protest, but violence—from Left or Right— is ALWAYS wrong.
And those engaged in violence are hurting the cause they say they support.

https://www.rawstory.com/wheres-the-national-guard/

Pelosi requests National Guard protection -- but awaits Trump's DOD approval

DC Mayor Muriel Bowser had already asked for the National Guard to help with security for the protests. ... CNN reported that an officer radioed in reporting "officer in distress" and begging for back up. ... House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) also sent a distress call asking for the National Guard be deployed to the U.S. Capitol. ... Washington Post reporter Aaron Davis reported that a source said "the Defense Department has just denied a request by DC officials to deploy the National Guard to the US Capitol."

https://www.rawstory.com/guns-drawn-inside-house-chamber-theres-an-armed...

Guns drawn inside House chamber as Trump mob provokes an armed standoff

Capitol Police drew guns on the floor of the House chamber after supporters of Donald Trump stormed the Capitol building in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
...
Members now evacuating the House chamber.
...
They’re barricading the doors.
...
They’re shooting into the chamber.

https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1346906369232920576

Police officers are holding them steps away from the Senate chamber, which is locked. Senators are inside. I see a few confederate flags.
...
ome sort of gas has been set off. I’m not sure by whom. Police seem to be trying to deescalate and talk to them.
...
Protesters are on the third floor of the Senate, walking door to door, shouting “Where the fuck are they?”
...
They’re in the chamber. One is up on the dais yelling “Trump won that election!” This is insane

This is the DAWNing of the Age of Aquarius...

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suLz6HUOqiM]

How can you have a successful revolution if everyone is busy taking selfies?

https://www.rawstory.com/mike-pence-2649770497/

Pence evacuated from Senate floor as angry Trump mob breaks into the Capitol building

According to @MSNBC, @VP has been ushered by @SecretService out of the Capitol through underground tunnels after br… https://t.co/7uUI1ReMMZ
— Steve Herman

Someone will have to piece together the time line, but this seems like the flash point...

Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!
— Donald J. Trump

Boom.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9nZT6vqqp0]

https://www.rawstory.com/joe-biden-tells-trump-stop-siege/

Joe Biden calls on Trump to end 'siege' on Capitol 'under unprecedented assault'

"At this hour, our democracy's under unprecedented assault. Unlike anything, we've seen in modern times. An assault on the citadel of liberty, the capitol itself. An assault on the people's representatives and the Capitol Hill police, sworn to protect them.

"And the public servants who work at the heart of our republic. An assault on the rule of law like few times we've ever seen it. An assault on the most sacred of American undertakings. The doing of the people's business. Let me be very clear: the scenes of chaos at the Capitol do not reflect a true America. Do not represent who we are. What we're seeing are a small number of extremists dedicated to lawlessness. This is not dissent. It's disorder. It's chaos. It borders on sedition. And it must end now.

"I call on this mob to pull back and allow the work of democracy to go forward," Biden said. "You heard me say before in different contexts, the words of a president matter. No matter how good or bad that president is. At their best, the words of a president can inspire. At their worst, they can incite. Therefore, I call on President Trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the Constitution and demand an end to this siege."

Yeah, good luck with that one, Joe.

John Iadarola @johniadarola 1h
Thinking about how many times those who feared this fascist movement were smeared as being hysterical.

https://twitter.com/nytmike

BREAKING: Explosive device found at RNC -- DNC has been evacuated.

This has gone well beyond a political story. We don’t know where the vice president and speaker of the House have taken refuge. It’s unclear who controls the Capitol and there’s no clear plan for how the government will be able to wrest back control of it.

But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8AmU6D3my0]

Not sure that's really going to help...

Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:07pm

My asst. has it livestreaming, CBS channel.

No arrests, police are talking to them to calm them down.
Police are showing which side they are on.
One source says a woman got shot in the chest, is in critical condition.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 6:11pm

she is dead by now /nt

@on the cusp

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 6:33pm

Yep. I just heard

@mimi she died.
Man, who is responsible for indoctrinating that young woman to die for some idiotic cause?

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:11pm

seeing the tear gas fly

and Biden is jabbering

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question everything

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:13pm

confrontations are getting escalated

starting to swing batons and grabbing people

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question everything

Submitted by UntimelyRippd on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:20pm

There will be FUD.

Don't believe every tweet in the moment.
Don't pass on every tweet you read.
Value truth and accuracy.

What you are watching at the US Capitol is the result of pure FUD poured out into the memespace for years, and more recently sprayed wildly with high-pressure FUD pumps. Every one of those idiots has chosen to believe something (in most cases, many things) stupid and false that happened to suit their emotional outlook on reality.

The wages of FUD are hatred, chaos, violence, injury, and maybe death.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:22pm

Guy with bullhorn demanding Pence, Pelosi, McConnell resign…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzslt4HxT0

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:31pm

seems the senate

failed in their attempt
to ratify the votes of electoral college
got stopped at AZ (alphabetical listing)

once the shooting started
several cops are bloodied

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question everything

Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:37pm

Here’s a different random citizen feed with multiple cameras

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMCoxdTRCag

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:41pm

hear about a hundred protester have gotten inside

the capital building
trouble for the authorities
no doubt

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question everything

Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:49pm

yes, a lot of fist fights between the police and the protestors

@QMS
inside the building. Wow. That's beyond FUBAR.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:57pm

It has been calmed down in the last hours, AlJazeera says,

@mimi
the capitol police has been pretty calm, I guess some might sympathisize with the protestors.
Trump supporters attacking the media and destroying their equipment right now. Live AJ TV.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:42pm

confrontations are escalating

@mimi

tear gas and rubber bullets
authorities are trying to remove the mob
before dark
6 pm curfew then the stoic get smashed

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 5:57pm

It was a German TV's equipment (ZDF) that was

@mimi
lustfully destroyed. I follow real TV channels and not You Tube videos. Whatever it was dangerous to report live from the Capitol shuffle.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by ggersh on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 5:17pm

I wonder, did they have to remove their shoes first?

@QMS @QMS How many trillions was it that saved the Capital?

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:47pm

step softly on old shoes

@ggersh

the government beast would rather you be barefoot
and pregnant too!

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question everything

Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 3:54pm

Back to this “JeffMAC” guy’s feed — people at the Capitol are

expressing doubt about a supposed Trump message to “go home” — speculating that it’s a deepfake or a pre-recorded thing and that Trump isn’t really behind the decision to send it out, not voluntarily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzslt4HxT0

It’s actually kind of a glorious moment when everyone briefly appears to be in control of their own personal narrative, with no one in control of “the” narrative anymore, much as the system would like to re-impose its desired, exclusively “correct” framing on everyone.

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:50pm

Yah, loved the f*ck CNN segment

@lotlizard
where they burned up all of the 'news' cameras and stuff
people are angry about fake broadcasting
with good reason
can't trust the media any more
except for live cams

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 6:09pm

no, German ZDF is not a fake news reporting TV channel,

@QMS
this was live streaming equipment of the German ZDF TV channel. It was destroyed because it streamed live. It had nothing to do with CNN TV equipment and their reporting. The sister German TV channel ARD reported about it in detail and that was nothing but factually correct reporting.

I am grateful for my Tech Guy, who helped me to be able all the German and international TV chnnels, around 50. So, I have the fortunate situation that I can compare their coverage.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by lotlizard on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:16pm

A pro-Trump Tiananmen Square type mass protest — so weird.

UPDATE: Now the cops have started firing tear gas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzslt4HxT0

Chant: “Traitors, traitors.”

Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:09pm

Inside the Capitol Building smoke and flashes come out of

the building.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:18pm

flash bangs, rubber bullets

and pepper spray

DC cops are getting serious

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 4:55pm

this is still working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzslt4HxT0
thanks loti
sounds like the congress is pretending they certified the
electoral college vote
oops

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Submitted by studentofearth on Wed, 01/06/2021 - 10:25pm

Resilient design in old cultures to violent force using wood

absorb and disperse the violence, Do not take it head on and try to match strength with strength.

Resilient design in old cultures to violent force include both buildings and cultural traditions. There must be some lessons we can learn and use.

China Forbidden City
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w78Yb_aotH0]

Japan Pagoda
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-3lHX-2fG0]

It could be sometime before we know the full truth of today's events, the puppet masters involved and pre-planned tactics. At the moment all sides to a conflict have been aggressively agitated.

Is it Karma from the COVID relief bill passed just last month at the capital or were funds also included for the USA?

In just a few hours, it passed through the House of Representatives by 359-53, and through the Senate by 92-6.

While the US public was forced to grovel for months for a $600 direct payment, the same piece of legislation pumps billions of dollars into “democracy programs” — US government code for regime-change operations via civil society NGOs — and foreign military assistance. The measly $600 survival checks pale in comparison to the massive foreign spending on regime change and titanic allocations to prop up US-friendly authoritarian militaries.

On so-called “Democracy Programs” alone, the legislation appropriates $2.417 billion, and $6.175 billion on the “Foreign Military Financing Program.” Another $112.9 million is appropriated for “International Military Education and Training.”

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Still yourself, deep water can absorb many disturbances with minimal reaction.
--When the opening appears release yourself.