DNC: You were warned that if you cheated again....

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 12:03am

If Trump Wins Again, Don’t Blame Progressives

The corporate conservatives who control the Democratic Party are suffering from cheaters’ remorse.

The DNC and their media allies (NPR, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Atlantic Monthly, Vox, etc.) subverted the will of primary voters, undermining initial frontrunner Bernie Sanders in order to install the worst candidate of the 20 centrists in the campaign.

Now the power brokers are worried that the befuddled Biden, whom they touted as the Most Electable Against Donald Trump, will lose to him. Rather than take responsibility for their idiocy and force Biden to pull out of a race for which he is obviously physically and mentally unprepared, the corporatist sellouts are preemptively blaming the progressives who warned them about this exact scenario.

Sorry, right wingers. Biden is on you. You made him the presumptive nominee. If Trump wins again, it’s your fault.

Just as it was last time.

Establishment panic over Biden is most palpable in the pages of the official party organ of the Democratic Party, the Times. “While [Biden] has held consistent leads in most national and swing-state polls, they have not been altogether comfortable one,” the paper noted on May 15th.

If Biden is to squeak by Trump in November, he requires a comfortable lead now. “A CNN poll released on Wednesday found Mr. Biden leading the president by five percentage points nationwide, but trailing by seven points among voters in crucial battleground states…for some Democrats, the results of the CNN poll again raised the specter that Mr. Biden could win the popular vote but lose the Electoral College, as Hillary Clinton and Al Gore both did.”

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Bloomberg. Jaimie Dimon. Larry Summers.

Bruni’s argument involves magical thinking too. “At the end of the day, Biden can be trusted to do what Trump didn’t and won’t: stock his administration with qualified professionals. He could compensate for any supposed cognitive deficit with a surplus of talent,” Bruni says. There is no evidence, none, zero, zip, that this is true. Biden could validate that argument by announcing his cabinet nominations now. But he’s not.

Actually he has as I noted above.

Let’s not forget how we got here.

When Bernie Sanders announced he was running again, Democratic-aligned media outlets said he was too old. “Mr. Sanders would be 79 when he assumed office, and after an October heart attack, his health is a serious concern,” the Times said in its absurd editorial joint endorsement of Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren.

Then, when Bernie emerged as frontrunner for the nomination, corporate media presented him as an existential threat. Head-to-head polls showed he was at least as electable as his rivals, yet “journalistic” organizations stated, without evidence, that a left-wing Democrat couldn’t beat Trump. Headlines proliferated:

“Can Bernie Be Stopped?”

“Bernie Sanders Can Still Be Stopped.”

“The Stop Sanders Movement Has Gone Public.”

CNN even compared Sanders to the coronavirus.

(Links in article)
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Bernie Sanders won the key Iowa caucus but Democratic vote-counting chicanery cheated him out of the PR for his win. Party insiders believe that Barack Obama personally arranged for Beto O’Rourke, Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg to endorse Joe Biden the day before Super Tuesday. Speaking of which, Sanders won California, the biggest state—but the vote count mysteriously took days, denying him a big headline and an accurately optimistic delegate count in media coverage.

A Times headline from February 20th proved prescient: “Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders.”

They got what they wanted.

This is more true than ever after we’ve seen Pelosi shoot down every bill that would keep people from living in abject squalor.

Congress gave $4 trillion to big corporations.

$4 trillion is enough to give every household in the country $33,000, so that people can at least pay for food & rent.

But they deliberately chose to give the money to corporations instead of people.

That’s it. That’s the tweet.

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) May 14, 2020

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 11:48am

Watch the whole thing

Behind the scenes of a Correct the Record/Shareblue recruitment center

[video:https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=yS7EQrMvmpk]

ETA: You guys remember Hillary's Correct the Record online trolls that were paid to go on to any social media thread where people were accurately criticizing her for her failed policies? We saw them flood into daily kos to Correct us when we were telling the truth about her and they told us how much we were wrong. Anyway this video is about that and the new recruits for Brock's new gig are in a boot camp scenario getting their talking points and at the end people blurt out the truth. Worth a watch.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by gulfgal98 on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 5:51am

It gets even better

Now the Sanders campaign is requiring all its delegates to sign a loyalty oath to Joe Biden and the Democratic party. This agreement extends down to personal social media accounts including Twitter.

I will not be a part of this charade. This is fascism. Censorship of speech is not at all welcome in my political world. I also give ZERO FUCKS about what the neoliberal piece NYT posts. This is no longer a progressive campaign. Anyone participating in this is perpetuating a lie. pic.twitter.com/5ETwBOHwPN

— Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020

Here’s the Washington Post article. @SenSanders this is disgusting. You need those to oppose and fight for our progressive legislation not those who will capitulate. Unacceptable. https://t.co/58HqMHNKL8

— Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020

From the article.

Key parts of the five-page orders appeared designed to prevent unflattering news reports about disagreements in the party. “Social media postings have the potential to generate media coverage,” the document warned, before instructing delegates how to address a press inquiry. “If a member of the media contacts you about a posting of any kind: do not respond,” it said. Instead, it continues, contact the Sanders press office.

“Before tweeting or posting from your personal social media accounts, ask yourself these questions: If this appeared on the front page of The New York Times, would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility, or reputation? Could it potentially risk your standing as a delegate? When re-tweeting or sharing information from others, are you applying necessary skepticism?” the social media policy said.
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The nondisclosure agreement banning delegates from divulging confidential information said they may not “author or create a book, article, academic study, video, movie, or other content” without written approval from the Sanders campaign.

Delegates said they were put off by the measures.

In less than two months, Bernie Sanders has betrayed all those people who scraped their hard earned dollars to support his campaign and has gutted his movement. This agreement adds insult to injury to all those people who worked so hard for him.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Submitted by Snode on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 6:56am

Well, we were warned

@gulfgal98 here at c99. At the beginning of the campaign I didn't want to believe this, and have some kind of hope. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I guess it's way past time to stop believing in Santa Claus and start believing in Dr. Evil.

Now the Sanders campaign is requiring all its delegates to sign a loyalty oath to Joe Biden and the Democratic party. This agreement extends down to personal social media accounts including Twitter. I will not be a part of this charade. This is fascism. Censorship of speech is not at all welcome in my political world. I also give ZERO FUCKS about what the neoliberal piece NYT posts. This is no longer a progressive campaign. Anyone participating in this is perpetuating a lie. pic.twitter.com/5ETwBOHwPN — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 Here’s the Washington Post article. @SenSanders this is disgusting. You need those to oppose and fight for our progressive legislation not those who will capitulate. Unacceptable. https://t.co/58HqMHNKL8 — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 From the article. Key parts of the five-page orders appeared designed to prevent unflattering news reports about disagreements in the party. “Social media postings have the potential to generate media coverage,” the document warned, before instructing delegates how to address a press inquiry. “If a member of the media contacts you about a posting of any kind: do not respond,” it said. Instead, it continues, contact the Sanders press office. “Before tweeting or posting from your personal social media accounts, ask yourself these questions: If this appeared on the front page of The New York Times, would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility, or reputation? Could it potentially risk your standing as a delegate? When re-tweeting or sharing information from others, are you applying necessary skepticism?” the social media policy said. AD The nondisclosure agreement banning delegates from divulging confidential information said they may not “author or create a book, article, academic study, video, movie, or other content” without written approval from the Sanders campaign. Delegates said they were put off by the measures. In less than two months, Bernie Sanders has betrayed all those people who scraped their hard earned dollars to support his campaign and has gutted his movement. This agreement adds insult to injury to all those people who worked so hard for him.

Submitted by entrepreneur on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 10:58am

"... would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility,

"... would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility, or reputation? "

Do they live in a bubble much? His credibility? His reputation? Just fucking wow!

@gulfgal98

Now the Sanders campaign is requiring all its delegates to sign a loyalty oath to Joe Biden and the Democratic party. This agreement extends down to personal social media accounts including Twitter. I will not be a part of this charade. This is fascism. Censorship of speech is not at all welcome in my political world. I also give ZERO FUCKS about what the neoliberal piece NYT posts. This is no longer a progressive campaign. Anyone participating in this is perpetuating a lie. pic.twitter.com/5ETwBOHwPN — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 Here’s the Washington Post article. @SenSanders this is disgusting. You need those to oppose and fight for our progressive legislation not those who will capitulate. Unacceptable. https://t.co/58HqMHNKL8 — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 From the article. Key parts of the five-page orders appeared designed to prevent unflattering news reports about disagreements in the party. “Social media postings have the potential to generate media coverage,” the document warned, before instructing delegates how to address a press inquiry. “If a member of the media contacts you about a posting of any kind: do not respond,” it said. Instead, it continues, contact the Sanders press office. “Before tweeting or posting from your personal social media accounts, ask yourself these questions: If this appeared on the front page of The New York Times, would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility, or reputation? Could it potentially risk your standing as a delegate? When re-tweeting or sharing information from others, are you applying necessary skepticism?” the social media policy said. AD The nondisclosure agreement banning delegates from divulging confidential information said they may not “author or create a book, article, academic study, video, movie, or other content” without written approval from the Sanders campaign. Delegates said they were put off by the measures. In less than two months, Bernie Sanders has betrayed all those people who scraped their hard earned dollars to support his campaign and has gutted his movement. This agreement adds insult to injury to all those people who worked so hard for him.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 11:41am

Yeah I saw that last night

@gulfgal98

and posted an excerpt from the Post. Joe responded that the coronation is progressing as planned. Paraphrasing. Isabel is spot on because it is censorship. And it is hypocrisy on Bernie's part because he still went after some of Hillary's policies after he conceded to her and when he was stumping for her which she said that he didn't leave enough of his blood, sweat and tears on the floor and that was why she lost.

Of course Rising talks about it this morning. Krystal points out that he is doing more for Biden's campaign they Biden is doing to bring progressives into his campaign. Absolutely correct. Yes Trump is doing some very shady shit right now with relaxing all regulations across all industries, but let's remember that Obama didn't do many things he could have until he had one foot out the door and since they didn't go into affect for months and years the GOP rolled most of them back during Trump's 1st 100 days. But boy didn't it make Obama look like he was finally stepping up? But again where are the democrats to oppose what he is doing?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTGvTjsCRj0&list=TLPQMjEwNTIwMjBy_jAKIg-...

I held my tongue during the primary this time, but I just saw Bernie phoning it in this time and his constantly calling Biden his friend when he knew damn well that the issues he was running against were put in place by his good friend in the first place. And yet he rarely mentioned that. The Iraq war got a lot of play, but what about his other policies and especially the bankruptcy bill. Bernie was strong on student loan cancellation, but why didn't he ever mention why people couldn't discharge them because of Biden's bankruptcy bill?

One last thing. I will literally LMAO if Warren gets selected as his VP. Full circle sell out because she said she got into politics because of the bankruptcy bill.

Oh Bernie. Biden has never been on the side of the working class. We have seen so much evidence of that through the 40 plus years Biden has been in government. Wake up.

Now the Sanders campaign is requiring all its delegates to sign a loyalty oath to Joe Biden and the Democratic party. This agreement extends down to personal social media accounts including Twitter. I will not be a part of this charade. This is fascism. Censorship of speech is not at all welcome in my political world. I also give ZERO FUCKS about what the neoliberal piece NYT posts. This is no longer a progressive campaign. Anyone participating in this is perpetuating a lie. pic.twitter.com/5ETwBOHwPN — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 Here’s the Washington Post article. @SenSanders this is disgusting. You need those to oppose and fight for our progressive legislation not those who will capitulate. Unacceptable. https://t.co/58HqMHNKL8 — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 From the article. Key parts of the five-page orders appeared designed to prevent unflattering news reports about disagreements in the party. “Social media postings have the potential to generate media coverage,” the document warned, before instructing delegates how to address a press inquiry. “If a member of the media contacts you about a posting of any kind: do not respond,” it said. Instead, it continues, contact the Sanders press office. “Before tweeting or posting from your personal social media accounts, ask yourself these questions: If this appeared on the front page of The New York Times, would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility, or reputation? Could it potentially risk your standing as a delegate? When re-tweeting or sharing information from others, are you applying necessary skepticism?” the social media policy said. AD The nondisclosure agreement banning delegates from divulging confidential information said they may not “author or create a book, article, academic study, video, movie, or other content” without written approval from the Sanders campaign. Delegates said they were put off by the measures. In less than two months, Bernie Sanders has betrayed all those people who scraped their hard earned dollars to support his campaign and has gutted his movement. This agreement adds insult to injury to all those people who worked so hard for him.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by Creosote. on Fri, 05/22/2020 - 1:08am

You're irrepaceable gg

@gulfgal98
in pointing to the crucial central matters

Now the Sanders campaign is requiring all its delegates to sign a loyalty oath to Joe Biden and the Democratic party. This agreement extends down to personal social media accounts including Twitter. I will not be a part of this charade. This is fascism. Censorship of speech is not at all welcome in my political world. I also give ZERO FUCKS about what the neoliberal piece NYT posts. This is no longer a progressive campaign. Anyone participating in this is perpetuating a lie. pic.twitter.com/5ETwBOHwPN — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 Here’s the Washington Post article. @SenSanders this is disgusting. You need those to oppose and fight for our progressive legislation not those who will capitulate. Unacceptable. https://t.co/58HqMHNKL8 — Fiorella Isabel (@Fiorella_im) May 21, 2020 From the article. Key parts of the five-page orders appeared designed to prevent unflattering news reports about disagreements in the party. “Social media postings have the potential to generate media coverage,” the document warned, before instructing delegates how to address a press inquiry. “If a member of the media contacts you about a posting of any kind: do not respond,” it said. Instead, it continues, contact the Sanders press office. “Before tweeting or posting from your personal social media accounts, ask yourself these questions: If this appeared on the front page of The New York Times, would it compromise Bernie Sanders’s message, credibility, or reputation? Could it potentially risk your standing as a delegate? When re-tweeting or sharing information from others, are you applying necessary skepticism?” the social media policy said. AD The nondisclosure agreement banning delegates from divulging confidential information said they may not “author or create a book, article, academic study, video, movie, or other content” without written approval from the Sanders campaign. Delegates said they were put off by the measures. In less than two months, Bernie Sanders has betrayed all those people who scraped their hard earned dollars to support his campaign and has gutted his movement. This agreement adds insult to injury to all those people who worked so hard for him.

Submitted by Marie on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 9:44am

Very doubtful:

The corporate conservatives who control the Democratic Party are suffering from cheaters’ remorse.

At all costs, the ConservaDemCons need to protect their franchise among 55% of Democratic primary voters. If they lose that, they will be hard pressed to get all those general election voters who still show up to cast their ballots for what they continue to believe is the New Deal party. That party was wobbly after 1976, but almost all the remaining dregs were cleared out in 1994.

Both parties are now about nothing more than the power to serve their high net worth masters. The various single issue factions (pro/anti environmentalism, pro/anti war, pro/anti civil liberties, pro/anti-slavery, pro/anti-equality for women and minorities, pro/anti-economic equity) are nothing more than bothersome gnats during election cycles. Gnats that return to their nests after elections so that "they" can get on with doing what their masters expect of them.

wrt coronavirus, not one of all those nationwide elected officials has demonstrated the leadership qualities required in such a situation. Xi did better than western leaders, but had two advantages, a structural system that allowed for the sledgehammer response and a population that honors their senior citizens and a collectivist mentality. Unlike other countries that had a few days to weeks of lead time, Moon Jae-in, South Korea, impressively managed the epidemic by first putting public health in the lead and refrained from politicizing it. The case study for excellent management may be Vietnam (limited infections and zero deaths to date) but information on how they've been managing it isn't being reported in the US.

Submitted by MrWebster on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 11:12am

The wrong countries doing it right

@Marie Looks like there is an effort by major US media to attack Russia for mishandling and lying about the virus. Actually the media is either ignoring or attacking official bad countries for their handling of the virus. When in fact the official bad countries doing better job.

This article from last year did not age very well.

These are the top 10 countries for pandemic preparedness

US and UK ranked 1 and 2.

Submitted by Marie on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 1:24pm

Did you mean China, not Russia?

@MrWebster Russia is doing better than Germany on limited COVID-19 deaths (assuming that both countries are accurately reporting their data), but Russia isn't doing that well on mitigating the infection incidence.

Submitted by tle on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 11:02am

That picture of Sanders with the betrayal text is perfect.

I dumped a lot of money (for me) into his campaign, but that's all in the rear view mirror now. Until there is actually a People's Party, I'm voting Green.

Submitted by MrWebster on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 11:24am

Sure but wasn't Bernie complicit in it this time around?

In hindsight it almost looks like Bernie was in on the ruse.

Submitted by gulfgal98 on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 12:05pm

Well

@MrWebster It now appears that Bernie was really never running to win. He seemed to be guarding his standing on committees or whatever. What is unconscionable to me is that Bernie was raking in millions of dollars up to the day he suspended his campaign. In fact that quarter was one of his biggest fund raising quarters.

And if he was running to sheepdog, it would explain a lot of things. He treated Tulsi Gabbard who had sacrificed everything politically to support him in 2016 as a pariah. It was so bad that even one of her brothers posted about it on Facebook. Meanwhile he called Joe Biden "his good friend" and refused to attack Biden even on policy grounds. He also sucked up to Warren even though her whole purpose was to deep six his campaign. Either Bernie was a sheepdog or a coward or perhaps both, but long term it has damaged his movement and possibly turned off lots of young people from politics forever. It has also hurt his legacy.

I had a saying when I worked in local government. "No matter what, I would do everything to protect my credibility. I am the only person who has to live with myself 24/7 and I want to be able to look into the mirror and know that my integrity is intact." And when I did stand up for what was right, I suffered retribution, but I could still look in the mirror.

When you say that you want to lead a "revolution," you have to be willing to be vilified and even hated for doing the right thing and taking the right stands. Apparently, Bernie was more worried about becoming hated like Ralph Nader than he was about his own credibility and doing the right thing.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 12:05pm

Here are some of the candidates to be in Bidens cabinet

We already knew of some of the names, but the New York Times did a poll to see who the people think should be in it. Anyone think that the Times wouldn't have gotten permission from his campaign before they did this?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG7dVwOfk_4&list=TLPQMjEwNTIwMjBy_jAKIg-...

Hey Bernie, are you going to muzzle your delegates so that they can't speak out about this? If You do then I have a name for what you are doing. Which is something I have thought all along. How very sad to see this from him.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by mimi on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 12:30pm

I would like to hear what Chris Hedges would

@snoopydawg
aay ot those lists.

Tough tobacco, again. Almost fainting.

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https://www.euronews.com/live

Submitted by longtalldrink on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 4:59pm

This is all so hard to see and watch

@snoopydawg "You do then I have a name for what you are doing. Which is something I have thought all along. How very sad to see this from him."

It's almost like that movie They Live where you need special glasses to see the monster/alien. Say it ain't so Bernie. AND btw, what are you doing with all that "unprecedented" fundraised money? It sure couldn't have been used for you campaign, as you were robotic and even listless at times. But to do this turning of your back to your most ardent supporters is the ultimate betrayal.

Never thought I would agree with Hildebeast, but she may have had a point when she informed us that "nobody" likes him. (Bernie) Nobody likes a back-stabber.

Anyway, that being said, I am still grateful to Bernie for making progressive policies mainstream.

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Well done is better than well said-Ben Franklin

Submitted by gulfgal98 on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 5:15pm

The Dream team is really

@snoopydawg more like a Nightmare for most Americans.

We are living in a very broken country.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Submitted by wokkamile on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 1:25pm

Warn't no stealing.

Maybe last time. Not in 2020. Bernie lost this one on his own doing.

And it was, uh, slightly misleading advertising by the Bernie camp about that "Revolution" copy. Because nothing quite says Revolution like bringing in as campaign manager someone from the Harry Reid camp. And revolutionary Bernie talking consistently on the phone during the campaign with revolutionary Barack Obama. And calling revolutionary Joe Biden "my good friend" and refusing to take it to him during the many debates.

I guess he meant Revolution in some polite D.C Beltway Miss Manners way, all cleaned up and suitable for younger viewers.

And if it never was a real Revolution, and he's now further sold out with this latest speech-muzzling effort, why the need to reach for scapegoats about his failed campaign? Isn't that what Hillary did after 2016 with the Rooskies?

Submitted by The Liberal Moonbat on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 3:49pm

I tried telling them this 3 years ago...

Sorry, right wingers. Biden is on you. You made him the presumptive nominee. If Trump wins again, it’s your fault.

Just as it was last time.

The following nightmare was what I got in response when I tried saying something very similar (and that's not even including how the primary responder here wound up chasing me around the site for the next 48 hours, also going after me when I posted on completely unrelated diaries) - I don't know why I've become so fragile (sometimes I wonder if there's actually a grain of truth to the conspiracy rumors about fluoridated water, it seems like emotional fragility is itself a pandemic among those of us under the age of 35), but I remain literally traumatized by this: https://www.dailykos.com/comments/1681024/67146985#comment_67146985

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 4:45pm

lol

@The Liberal Moonbat

Which one followed you? The doctor or the E person? Wow. Either way this type of crap is still being flung over there. It’s never the fault of the candidate or party. Oh noes it’s the fault of voters. This is tribalism at its finest. Even Warren said that there was some hinky with that primary.

Now anyone that with a tiny ounce of criticism of democrats are told to come here. Nancy bailed out her donors, but shhh don’t bring that up.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by The Liberal Moonbat on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 5:06pm

The latter

@snoopydawg "The E person". I'm still trying to recover from bad experiences I had in 2004 (back then, of course, it was at the hands of FOX-News Republicans); the last thing I needed was MORE of this. I feel like my life has been stolen from me, and by the least worthy people.

Can you share the bit where Warren acknowledges "hinky"?

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 5:23pm

After Donna Brazil told us about the deal that Hillary

@The Liberal Moonbat

made with the DNC without Bernie’s knowledge someone in the media asked Warren if she thought the primary hadn’t been run fairly and she said YES. But only for a day until she walked it back. Today I’m reading that she has abandoned MFA in its entirety just so she can get picked for Biden’s VP. But he’s looking hard at Klobuchar. The female Tim Kaine or Lieberman. Yeah there’s that bone again that Bernie keeps asking for.

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Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.

Submitted by Marie on Fri, 05/22/2020 - 1:44am

You argued well, but perservered far too long

@The Liberal Moonbat against that "E person" who has constructed his/her own reality despite the best available facts such as Clinton lost.

It's unknowable if Sanders could have won in 2016, but the odds were in his favor. Strangely enough his strength in that election cycle was what ClintonDems claimed was his biggest deficit: he isn't a Democrat. A third WH term for one party is a tough nut, particularly if that party has lost congressional seats in the prior midterm and more so if it flips the majority in the House or Senate. Thus, the macro-landscape for a Democratic party stalwart was poor in 2016. That doesn't compute for those that believe Obama was the bestest POTUS evah when in fact he wasn't good at all except for the banksters and MIC. The same macro-landscape existed in 2008 and 1988, but then it was advantage Democrat and why I've always viewed Dukakis as the worst Democratic nominee in the past few decades.

Submitted by The Liberal Moonbat on Fri, 05/22/2020 - 7:16am

One thing I'm kicking myself for...

@Marie ...was never pointing out that hey, given that (as "E" kept saying) Hillary won the popular vote by a few million, why the hell are you blaming ME and not just focusing on getting rid of the frigging Electoral College?!? My state went to Her anyway.

Did anyone else around here participate in the 'Hamilton Electors' Hail-Mary from that Winter? My father and I did.

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In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.

Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!

Submitted by Marie on Fri, 05/22/2020 - 1:19pm

We don't do constitutional amendments anymore --

@The Liberal Moonbat

But if we still did, the necessary political alignment to ditch the electoral college is difficult to imagine:

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

The electoral college isn't much more than an abstract of that last clause in Article V. And that's the one that operates continuously and not simply once every four years. It's the "equal suffrage in the Senate" that has become grossly unequal for a democracy. As that provision was only protected from an amendment until 1808, it didn't escape the framers that it was undemocratic.

Both political parties may actually prefer to keep the electoral college as it reduces the number of state, and therefore the money required, that are competitive. The trick is to correctly identify and focus on the one(s) that are winnable. Based on where the Clinton campaign put its time and money, it appeared that she wanted to replicate Obama's '08 win (with the exception of IN). Hence, the focus on FL and NC and to a lesser extent OH (gone long before election day) and PA.

Submitted by wendy davis on Thu, 05/21/2020 - 4:06pm

i know it's unwise to even add anything,

not having watched one of the videos, but:

Recording of calls between Joe Biden and ex-Ukraine President Poroshenko leaked | New York Post, •May 20, 2020

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lA3oOo1oZc]

So Joe Biden wants a female sexual assault survivor as his running mate. Why on Earth does he think that might be helpful?, RT.com, may 20

and ya gotta love this:

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez will be serving as Sen. Sanders' representative on the committee convened by Biden dealing with climate policy, her spokeswoman said. https://t.co/xo5jsfOONa

— NBC News (@NBCNews) May 13, 2020