America's Syrian war strategy goes "full spectrum stupid"
"It's very strange, and I cannot understand it."
- Ahmed Othman, commander of one U.S.-backed rebel group in Syria regarding U.S. policy
This wouldn't be the first time that America's foreign policy stopped making sense, but our current Syrian war strategy may have just hit a whole new level of stupid.
The fighting has intensified over the past two months, as CIA-armed units and Pentagon-armed ones have repeatedly shot at each other as they have maneuvered through contested territory on the northern outskirts of Aleppo, U.S. officials and rebel leaders have confirmed.
I'm sure that some apologist will manage some complicated mental gymnastics in order to rationalize this FUBAR, but I am incapable of imagining what it might be.
"It is an enormous challenge," said Rep. Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, who described the clashes between U.S.-supported groups as "a fairly new phenomenon."
"It is part of the three-dimensional chess that is the Syrian battlefield," he said.
I believe that representative Schiff is 8 dimensions short on that metaphor.
Now if that was the full extent of our F'd up situation then that would be one thing. But it isn't.
The U.S. State Department does not want the government of Syria to defeat or weaken ISIS, at least not if doing so means any sort of gain for the Syrian government. Watching a recent video of a State Department spokesperson speaking on that subject might confuse some U.S. war supporters.
The Pentagon wants to defeat ISIS. The CIA wants to defeat Assad. The Obama Administration wants both things.
Well, you can't have both things. At least not without stuff like this.
It's not just ironic; it's a symbol of how disastrous the last 15 years of US Iraq policy have been, how circuitous and self-perpetuating the violence, that we are now bombing our own guns. Welcome to American grand strategy in the Middle East.
Stupid enough for you yet? It gets worse. Much worse.
A crucial problem in news media coverage of the Syrian civil war has been how to characterize the relationship between the so-called “moderate” opposition forces armed by the CIA, on one hand, and the Al Qaeda franchise Al Nusra Front (and its close ally Ahrar al Sham), on the other. But it is a politically sensitive issue for US policy, which seeks to overthrow Syria’s government without seeming to make common cause with the movement responsible for 9/11, and the system of news production has worked effectively to prevent the news media from reporting it fully and accurately.
The Obama administration has long portrayed the opposition groups it has been arming with anti-tank weapons as independent of Nusra Front. In reality, the administration has been relying on the close cooperation of these “moderate” groups with Nusra Front to put pressure on the Syrian government....
For example, a dispatch from Aleppo last May in Al Araby Al-Jadeed (The New Arab), a daily newspaper financed by the Qatari royal family, revealed that every one of at least ten “moderate” factions in the province supported by the CIA had joined the Nusra-run province command Fateh Halab (Conquest of Aleppo).
So far the New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal have all cooperated in pushing out the patently false propaganda - that we aren't aiding the group responsible for the murder of thousands of Americans - and as long as the public doesn't pay attention, the government will get away with this deception.
Sometimes our Syrian policy has aided the 9/11 murderers in more direct ways.
For instance, when the Pentagon spent $41 million to train "four or five" Syrian fighters, but not before they handed over their weapons to al-Qaeda.
To be fair, this situation isn't so much "new" as just more obvious. The Assad government has had a lot of help from Iraqi Shia militias that travel to Syria to fight al-Nusra and ISIS.
In Iraq, these groups are our de facto allies, except when they threaten to kill us. In Syria they are our de facto enemies because they support Assad.
Which I'm sure totally makes sense in a way that I haven't grasped just yet.
Until I can grasp the 11th dimensional chess of this strategy, I'm sticking to something more basic.
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Russia has a much clearer vision in Syria
President Putin has been very clear. He backs Assad and the Syrian Arab Army. Yet Russia has agreed to open elections after the terrorists are driven out, and that includes Al Nusra, other offshoots of AQ and ISIS. Russia has brokered a cease fire with opposition groups within Syria and it seems to be holding. The opposition groups are working with the SAA to defeat ISIS and they are seeing significant gains in Palmyra. Russia has also pulled the bulk of their forces out of Syria, but continue to support the Syrian Arab Army with intel, advisers and air support.
As usual, the US doesn't know what the hell it's doing. Certainly part of it is that Obama is incapable of forming and implementing a single strategy. He seems afraid of the CIA and parts of the State Department, although SOS Kerry seems to be with the program to cooperate with Russia.
Russophobia is so great in this country that I have seen it impossible for the MSM to give credit or even mention the name Russia. The best thing that we could do is to let Russia lead and work with them. This could be a bitter pill as the West has been very busy demonizing Russia and calling President Putin a thug. As they say, reality bites.
Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.
Remember the Ukraine?
I'm still not clear why we were supporting neo-nazi types there, McCain even had his picture taken with some.
It was clear enough
The US backed a Ukrainian coup as a means of poking Russia in the eye, and keeping it off balance.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Time for our version of perestroika and glasnost?
Gorbachev knew that he couldn't implement restructuring without openness, because the soviet “structure” needed functioning state secrecy laws and censorship to maintain its internal corruption of political power.
Translation - we should recognize that it's madness to have covert black ops budgets and private mercenary contactors supporting the Pentagon's war strategies. Nor do we need military bases in logistical support of above in every corner of the world. latest outrage is the use of multiple players on the syrian front in opposition to each other, and yet financed by same usa.
Stop the killings, stop the military invasions. shut down Guantanamo. quit meddling overseas.
The idea is not to actually WIN the war...
Just keep it going. Forever.
Because who benefits from selling arms to both sides, FOREVER...
Give you Three guesses, and the first two don't count.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
But of course, mon cheri! A new constitution is being written
but without our input.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176120/tomgram%3A_engelhardt%2C_don't_blame_it_all_on_donald_trump/
Bloody well out of control this time 'led' by a Democrat.
Guess might as well just continue with 'There is no hope, fck it and let the good times roll' lifestyles.
You can see why come no longer to bother to even do the minimum, which is, vote.
Meh.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Go 'Full Retard'
Go home empty handed.
Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?
The days of neocon foreign policy
Thankfully have passed. Unless of course Hillary gets elected. We should stay out of the middle eastern conflicts and withdraw from NATO, an organization that has long passed it's reason for existence. The United States is not the global police and should refain from empire.
NATO
In the matter of defeating ISIS, Russia is on board with that goal while our alleged NATO ally Turkey has been supporting them underhandedly and bombing the Kurds. Turkey should certainly not get a pass on this behavior cause "NATO".
The CIA vs the Pentagon? Great!
And we arm the Kurds and the Turks who also fight each other.
And we support the Iraq/Iran coalition and cold war Iran.
And we love the Saudis who fight Iran supported Houthis in Yemen but not ISIS.
And then there is Libya.
Putin must be laughing his head off.
The political revolution continues
This is why the Constitution
specifies only one entity having the power to declare war.
Let the record show, though, that if the CIA and the Pentagon wanted to go to a remote place and fight each other, no proxies, I would probably support it.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
So they destroy a once beautiful country
where some of the oldest cities in the world were once established. It is turned to rubble and desert and its people are scattered all over the world. What then, fight over oil rights or something?
To thine own self be true.
A slightly different perspective
gjohnsit, I respect your writing and agree with much of what you've said here and elsewhere. Not to be sanctimonious or too "politically correct," but it is possible to frame this without using the words, movie clip, or quote, "full retard?"
I have kids with special needs. Every day, we and tens of thousands of families like us fight the casual and incredibly hurtful use of the 'r-word.' There are lots of ways to say that America's Syrian strategy is 100% completely off the rails without using slurs against people who are the most vulnerable among us.
Sorry if this is out of line because I'm still new to posting here, but just a humble suggestion.
Thanks!
"You know, I think many people have the mistaken impression that Congress regulates Wall Street. In truth, that's not the case. The real truth is that Wall Street regulates the Congress. - Bernie Sanders
I agree with the soldier
who does not understand it.
I do not, either. My eyes both cross and glaze over when trying to sort out the countries we are fighting in, which ones are our new besties, and exactly what the fuck went so wrong so quickly with Turkey?
It has to be Big Oil.
Let Exxon-Mobile fight their own fucking wars.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
By any reasonable definition of victory,
we have not won any war, except Grenada, since WW2.
In addition, many but not all, black ops have also failed.
Most of the reasons for these failures occurred at the front end, i.e. the political decision making end of the process. This involves whom to attack, where, when, why, and how.
While a dominant nation arguably needs a strong military, the effects of perpetual, losing efforts will inarguably destroy the nation.
We need to walk away immediately.
That couldn't destabilize the chaos any further. Screw the MIC and their backers. They can quit building weapons and start building new sources of sustainable energy instead.
ball and the cup
well, the endgame is not to win, but to keep playing How else can they justify the budget? Until we the people stop them , they will double down, and spend spend spend... bomb bomb bomb. rinse and repeat.
In the end, it is important to remember that we cannot become what we need to be, by remaining what we are...
The Obama Doctrine
Audacity of ignorance