Team Kentucky: Beshear Happy Hour

This takes me back to when I co-hosted a Drinking Liberally chapter in Ridley Park, Pennsylvania.

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Welcome to our Happy Hour! 5pm every day
We will drink together, but apart, and get our daily calming from Papa Beshear.
Mostly keeping it all warm and fuzzy because is our happy place.
But, sharing important information, cause we are here to help each other.
Drinking games, memes, and all related content welcome!

Be nice to each other.
Don’t be a dick.
Be a good neighbor.
Do your civic duty.
Don’t disappoint Andy.
We will get through this.
We will get through it together.
We are adding zoom events daily for a safe community from the comfort of your home.

But there are citizens of Kentucky who disagree.

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A federal lawsuit has been filed against Governor Andy Beshear claiming that orders aimed at stopping the spread of COVID-19 violate religious freedom.

Prosecutors say the plaintiffs found this notice on their vehicle windshields after attending an in-person Easter service.

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The plaintiffs are among a group of people who attended an in-person church service in Bullitt County on Easter Sunday. The suit was filed on Tuesday after the plaintiffs say they received quarantine orders after attending the service.

Boone County attorney Robert Neace and active Health and Family Services Secretary Eric Friedlander are also named as defendants in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit claims the plaintiffs had ‘sincerely held religious beliefs,’ and that they considered ‘in-person attendance... central to their faith,’

The lawsuit details how the governor has made restrictions and shut down several businesses across Kentucky, but claims that this is one of the only states where in-person services have been banned.

According to the lawsuit, the plaintiffs attended services at Maryville Baptist Church on April 12 and afterward found a “Quarantine and Prosecution Notice” on their windshields from state police.

”The bottom line is they are not quarantining they are not experiencing those symptoms whatsoever," attorney Chris Wiest said. "We don’t think they’ve got it or have gotten it from that service. I mean, anyone at a supermarket could’ve gotten it and they appropriately with that notice fear criminal prosecution.”

The lawyers say it’s not right that one Kentuckian can walk into a gas station and buy a scratch-off while another can’t practice their faith in the church.

The plaintiffs have refused to quarantine, and say neither they nor anyone else at the service displayed symptoms of COVID-19.

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IN THE ABSENCE of federal leadership, governors have become the public face of the effort to combat the coronavirus pandemic. Some of them, like New York’s Andrew Cuomo and California’s Gavin Newsom, have risen to the media status of national hero, certainly in comparison to the deadly, daily clown show on display at the White House. Others have exposed themselves as unfit for office — such as Georgia’s Brian Kemp, who this week expressed shock after learning a basic fact about the disease, namely that asymptomatic carriers can spread it.

Lost between the coasts, meanwhile, is the remarkable story of Kentucky’s Andy Beshear, whose handling of the coronavirus crisis looks especially strong next to neighboring Tennessee. The two states are like a life-and-death experiment, showing the difference between governing and not governing in the face of a pandemic.

The 42-year-old son of former Gov. Steve Beshear, he won a contested Democratic primary against a more progressive opponent, and then went on to face the extraordinarily unpopular Matt Bevin in the general election in the fall. The Libertarian Party, which Bevin had tussled with, decided to field a candidate simply to undermine him. The libertarian pulled 28,000 votes, enough to swing the election; Beshear beat Bevin by just 5,000 votes.

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Granma's picture

I think Trump's idiocy is believed by too many people. Leaders of the protests seem to be small business owners. And since they are closed down, apparently spend all their time spreading toxic misinformation and stirring up trouble.

I have a lot of sympathy for their predicament and desperation, but they are aiming at the wrong targets. And lifting the lockdowns won't help them. There is a recession going on.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@Granma @Granma The morbidity and mortality rates are largely confined to the over 70 group with one comorbidity and to those

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@Alligator Ed 17-20% of cases are health care professionals, many in their 20s-30s. That those people are getting severe cases and some of them are dying. There are young, healthy people dying. The Dr's treating them and studying this virus are puzzled.

And did you do any research on who is actually protesting? I did.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@Granma You only provide a question in response. Not an answer.

The figure of 17% of deaths being due to health professionals succumbing from SARS2 seems extremely high. I have not seen any data consistent with what you are saying. Once again, provide your sources, which until then must be considered anecdotal at best.

Even though health professionals provide a fair number of deaths, one must expect that they are exposed to much higher viral loads than the average person.

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Alligator Ed's picture

@Granma You wrote that 16 - 17% of [US] healthcare workers have or have had SARS2. But your estimate is widely exaggerated according to a report of 4/14/20:

CDC: Nearly 10,000 Health Care Workers Had Coronavirus — But There’s Probably More

As of April 9, at least 9,282 health care workers in the U.S. had COVID-19 and at least 27 had died, according to the new report. However, that number is almost certainly an undercount because researchers only knew whether a patient was a health care worker in 16% of all U.S. coronavirus cases – which had reached nearly 460,000 by April 9 – leaving 84% of cases unaccounted for in this report.

You may have misread the data. This citation indicates that occupation of health care worker or not
was known in 16% of cases. This means the information about worker status was present in only 16% of cases. This does NOT mean that 16% were healthcare workers.

There are 300,000 MDs and DOs in the US. Let's say that all 10,000 cases were among MDs, which is patently untrue and the total number of healthcare workers in direct patient contact must be at least 1 million, including nurses, respiratory therapists, imaging technicians, physical therapists, phlebotomists et. al. But using your worst case scenario, if only 10,000 out of 300,000 physicians were affected, then in that population total incidence would be 10,000 / 300,000 = 3.33%

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Okay, so what?

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