Joe Biden will never be president

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The video in the Gravel tweet isn't showing for me. I posted the one above just in case others can't see it either.. Weird though since it did the first time I posted it.

The transcript:

There is no way he will even be the nominee. This man is unwell and it's just plain cruel that he is still being made to go out in public and try to speak. During one debate his left eye was full and here it's drooping.

Democrats are just hoping that he will last long enough to make sure that Bernie is not the candidate going into the DNC convention. I don't think that is going to happen. We know darn well that if Bernie or anyone else had told someone that he is full of shit and then said he would slap him the media would go on about for weeks. Instead they want us to pretend that joe is just showing how strong a candidate he is. Bull Shi'ite.

Bernie won every country in California. Exit polls showed him beating Biden by more than 4 points. And yes, AOC, long lines to vote is a form of voter suppression. It doesn't matter that it has been happening in minority places for years. If you can't vote without standing in line up to 7 hours then they are being suppressed.

Here is more from the same speech.

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Shahryar's picture

If the election were this week I think Biden would win. If the republicans make it all about Biden's mental capability instead of issues and if Biden can hold it together until November he'll win.

Hillary was the worst candidate the Dems could have run. Anyone else would have beaten Trump. Biden qualifies as "anyone else".

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@Shahryar

but Hillary was at least coherent. Biden has not been since he jumped in the race. I posted the transcript (?) of what he said. Or tried to say. Still when does he start feeling embarrassed for giving the country this fodder?

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@snoopydawg to feel embarrassed at this point. This is just sad.
And yet, so many people on Tumblr seem to have bought it hook, line and sinker and gone all in for Joementia before the primary is even half over. Gotta be trolls. Has to be. NOBODY could look at this and go yep, that guy's totally fit and able to be the next president! Come on. Trolls is the only reasonable explanation; they're accusing people of saying 'if Joe is the nominee just stay home' which is simply not true. Nobody is saying that. Not that I've seen at least. I'm tired of being gaslighted. (Gaslit?)

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This shit is bananas.

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@Daenerys

Gaslit sounds good. Joe having dementia or trouble with speaking is considered right wing talking points on DK. Of course it is. But apparently they can't see the same things we do.

Oh yeah and AOC got thrown under the bus today for one going on Fox News to talk about the epidemic and for saying long lines are a form of voter suppression. Someone wrote a follow up diary on how the guy who threw her under the bus was a Russian troll. lol..the dawg pile was epic.

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@snoopydawg
thanks for adding it. Biden without a teleprompter sounds more like word-salad Palin. Or Trump with a larger vocabulary and minimally aware of far more issues.

Doubt this country could do worse using a lottery to select a POTUS and there's a reasonably good chance that we could do better.

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@Marie

lol..and there it is. I didn't think anyone could beat Sarah's word salad speeches until now. And that is what makes this so sad and yet disgusting that the DNC is this desperate to keep Bernie from winning.

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@snoopydawg
but Palin's perkiness would give her the decision.

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@snoopydawg The debate between Biden and Palin. It was entertaining at least. But now? Yeah, he makes even Caribou Barbie sound coherent. That is saying something.

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@snoopydawg

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Actually I'd love to see Trump pick Sarah as his veep just so we could hear her talking again. But how sad is it that she sounds more coherent than Biden does?

If I see Caitlin's tweet again I'll post it. She said something about what ByeDone said to the wall when he wandered off screen.

Seriously this just has to end soon. I'm hoping Sundays debate will show the world that he is not ready for prime time anymore. But I do find it very sad what is happening to him.

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@snoopydawg

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Yes we really do need to talk about this.

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@snoopydawg

and yes, it is with horrified pity. I don't know how I can feel so sorry for him when he's been using his position to hurt pretty much all of us for so many years. But I do.

His "friends" are using him ruthlessly.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal What a great damn idea! Give the person that thought of that sketch a raise!

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@on the cusp

Back when there was something worth watching on MSNBC.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Shahryar

Hillary was the worst candidate the Dems could have run. Anyone else would have beaten Trump.

False. Barring Tulsi and Bernie (and maybe Mike Gravel and Tom Steyer), all the other Dem candidates were Trump Lite, just like HerHeinous was. And Harry Truman will always be proven right: when given a choice between GOP and GOP-Lite "Democrats", the American people will elect the genuine GOPper every time.

And Biden is merely "to-the-right-of-Trump" suffering from dementia. He will never be President (please Cat!).

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides
if Hillary hadn't been in the race? He was the bozo she and her gang wanted in the general election. The one candidate that she couldn't possibly lose to.

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@Marie Of course she thinks she really did win the election except for the 59 reasons destroying her dream--like Bernie, the DNC, the Russians, the law suits, the body count, but most of all her sincerity and charming personality.

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@thanatokephaloides
pushing former AG Holder as an honest, highly accomplished head of a new PAC aimed at fixing gerrymandering -- for fixing elections. I thought, Is Holder now on the backroom list of candidates?

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@Shahryar

illness instead of issues...Biden will win? I don't see how that follows at all, at least not with such certainty.

Especially since they won't just make it about his mental illness but also about his corruption. That is, if Biden were even going to be the candidate, which he won't.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Shahryar

What are his issues? That he doesn't post bigoted things to Twitter?

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Make it about issues but try to win on his dementia he'll have a better chance of winning 'cause both are nuts.

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@Shahryar

But this is one of those rare occasions when I feel like the general run of American voters is not gonna see it in that kind of logical way. If they think both candidates are crap, they're not necessarily likely to do anything but drop out of the process (something that might be fairly likely anyway, if the virus is not corralled by November, though maybe people will do mail-in ballots).

Also, I'm guessing that the general election will be a contest of who can cheat the best. Last time it was Trump, but he got the jump on them. Who knows who it will be this time.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Lee Camp on Redacted Tonight

https://youtu.be/0b-zLOuc4tY?t=713

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"Oh shit!"
Then when the soldiers come for me, just let me take my stash of cigs, beer, just let me die before it runs out.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Oh, here's an explanation:
Technical trouble spoils Joe Biden's first 'virtual town hall'

How would the viewers know if the guy on stage was answering the questions himself or was reading off a big screen that's not in camera range? How would viewers know that the questioners and their questions weren't chosen in advance. Or even if the questioners are real people and not a bot?

It all made Joe look old (even with his alien style new face), befuddled, and perplexed by modern gizmos.

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@Marie

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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If his own wife won't end this game, I have to wonder what kind of person she is.
It's all about the benjamins.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

@Pricknick
is often like the proverbial frog in the pot of water. The changes are so slow and over such a long period of time that they can't see it. Possibly more so in this case because Jill has every reason to want to help Joe fulfill his lifelong ambition.

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@Pricknick If anyone would be aware of his steady decline it would be her. However I think that she liked being the 2nd lady (if that is what you call it) during Obama's presidency and she is looking to be the 1st lady with all its perks. Pure ambition is why she remains silent.

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@humphrey
because that's not something people in such positions ever reveal to the public. Like Reagan was only diagnosed with Alzheimer's years after leaving office -- yeah right.

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@Pricknick just like Nancy Reagan.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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If they can keep Joe under wraps until the convention they may be just able to pull it off. I just don't think they can. It could all be over as soon as Sunday.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned: Joe's strength is among older voters. How many of them have cared for a parent with dementia? They'll recognize the signs and know what they mean.
But there is zero chance that Biden faces Trump. Even if he's the nominee, a week after the convention he'll hold a press conference and say that his doctors have "just" diagnosed him with dementia and he's stepping down.

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@WoodsDweller

But then that's only if they get to see his losing it. The media won't show any video of his talking like we see and many people don't do Twitter.

The only hope we have is if he loses it Sunday. But then that was why they moved the debate up to the afternoon. I called it last week. I literally said "watch the DNC move it to the afternoon so he sounds more coherent."

But he will never debate Trump.

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@snoopydawg Where did you see that?

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"If I sit silently, I have sinned." - Mossadegh

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I just finished walking through 7 years of my mother's dementia. He is not in the early stages. It is possible it wasn't noticeable before but the rigors of the campaign trail have accelerated it. In the early stages people can easily hide it.

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@pswaterspirit
from the campaign trail. Likely has gotten a couple days downtime before each of the debates. Suspect you're correct that he's learned ways to cover it up for a while now. One a couple of occasions in the past few months I've noticed a somewhat quick recovery time for him.

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@Marie There is none at the moment, as we are in full C19 mode, panicky and otherwise.

Biden has shut down his campaign headqtrs in Philly; remote work only by staffers. I assume he's also shut down his satellite offices. Bernie probably has done similarly. Neither is out there campaigning with the large gathering thing being discouraged. Even Trump has none scheduled.

Campaign? It barely exists right now. LA has already cancelled its Dem primary. Some big states are coming up Tues -- AZ, FL, IL, OH. But I haven't heard a thing about them.

This Sun debate will likely be a friendly. I don't expect Bernie at all to go on attack, and he's not the attack type anyway. It could be newsworthy if Biden absolutely shows signs of such mental decline that even the MSM can no longer avoid mentioning it. There's a chance of that happening, but I'm not sure the mental issue will be much beyond Joe's usual 10-15% of obvious deterioration.

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@wokkamile
from the beginning of this election cycle in 2019 through the primaries last Tuesday. Joe doesn't have a day job, but was barely present anywhere throughout 2019. He stepped it up in IA and then NH, barely filling some classrooms. Probably at most three short stops per day, and we know how well being seen in person by voters worked out for him in IA and NH.

All the current shutdowns definitely favor Joe. With public attention now exclusively on Sanders and Biden, voters won't see the difference in stamina and ability to speak coherently for an extended period of time. Being the coddled and protected candidate with highly selected and limited appearances won't be as visible as it was in 2016 in both the primary and general election, and was a factor in Hillary's primary struggle and general election loss. The MSM can cover for Joe, and they did for Hillary during the primary and general, but it will be far more difficult for them in the general election because the twitter thumb in chief will highlight it on a continuing basis.

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@Marie turns out to have been a resounding success, judging by the current outcome. Probably a one-off for this unusual election cycle, with defeating Trump on the ballot, and now C19 making campaigning an unwise move. But maybe there's something to be said for less is more in campaigning. Or that organizing, campaign offices, canvassing and endless campaign appearances and stump speeches are a bit overrated. Perhaps a little of all these things.

Liz, for instance, might have been better off taking more time away from the stump to recharge and rethink strategy with her aides, always considering different approaches. Look at what all the money, organization and selfies got her -- a ticket to the sidelines fairly early. Somewhat similar for the South Bend youngster, although he did better than expected, for a brief period.

With Biden, it couldn't have been a difficult decision to advise him to go easy on the stump stops, with his current condition added to his history of foot in the mouth. At this late stage, he is far better off reading from brief prepared scripts off the teleprompter. Short and sweet, no ad libbing, no questions taken, no brief exchanges with those ornery voters. He needs to be more scripted and controlled than even Dick Nixon in 1968, the Roger Ailes campaign. We'll see if he can hold it together until the convention.

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@wokkamile
for Biden. Whereas, being out and about did work for Pete.

Matt Taibbi gave the Dem elites a road map as to how to defeat Sanders. The map the GOP didn't have in 2016, but they also didn't have a Trump opponent with high name recognition who entered the race and held onto a primary polling lead among those not paying much attention. Trump led the pack within a month of entering the race and never relinquished it. Nationally and generally in most state polls through 2019, Sanders rarely led Biden and Sanders mostly languished in the 20% range while Biden was in the 30% range.

I'd put Pete in the same category as Rubio. Intellectually smarter but riding on youth and physical attractiveness with no agenda other than "I wanna be president." Beats me why some voters fall for candidates like that in every election cycle. And don't get me started on Yang; more than five minutes consideration of him would have been too much.

The playing field in each presidential election cycle (Warren did say it's just a game) is tilled in advance by the mood of the public. Very roughly, "more of the same" or "something different." Reading that correctly and exploiting it, particularly when a candidate easily embodies it, is the difference between winners and losers. 1988 was a "something different" cycle, the one Democrats blew with what I consider the worst recent nominee. (Had Hillary been the '08 nominee and lost, that would have made her worse than Dukakis.) What make this trickier is that more often than not public awareness lags what a president has done in office because much legislation take years to mature. That was less true in 1980 and 1992 and Reagan/GOP exploited that to the max in 1980 and WJC/DNC and Perot exploited that in 1992. A Democratic potted plant could have won in 2008. "More of the same" opponent to "more of the same" incumbent always loses (Dole, Kerry, and Romney) even as "more of the same" isn't favored as in 2004.

What Trump has done, and which is quite clever, he's continued to exploit and embody "something different" as he maintained "more of the same" from his five predecessors. So, he's attempting to neuter a natural favor for "something different." Russia/Putin along with Hillary have been rejected and are now within the "more of the same" box as is the Democratic House going along with whatever Trump threw their way. Sanders did blow it by going along with Russia/Putin and after the disappointment with Mr. Hope and Change compounded by DC Democrats not stopping Trump on policy, it too difficult to believe that Sanders would even try to buck the whole system. Both parties are hollow shells at this point; only capable of raising money and using it to smear intra and interparty opponents to maintain the status quo that keeps them in the game.

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@Marie this cycle is much more about plain brute electability. "something different" doesn't really get at it. Dem voters are strongly reacting to Trump, and are voting on who they think best will do the job of getting him out.

There might also be a sense of impatience too as this cycle had too many participants and the campaign has gone on forever. Voters seem to want to get it over.

Frankly I'm burnt out too.

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@wokkamile Electability is the drumbeat the MSM has been pounding about Biden for over a year. And apparently the constant repetition has worked. That has been the essence of his campaign -- unpaid free cushy media coverage, sorta like what Trump got from the MSM in 2016. The media covered Donald's campaign stump appearances endlessly, while Biden didn't get his few covered but got endless favorable talking head commentary.

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@wokkamile

Electability is the drumbeat the MSM has been pounding about Biden for over a year. And apparently the constant repetition has worked.

No TV and therefore, didn't know where this "electability" chant was coming from. As if every candidate has an inherent EQ (electability quotient) and pushed on to voters with a zero iQ (imagination quotient). It was probably always an element in the considerations when party cabals selected the nominee, but can't recall that it gained any traction among voters when we moved to primary election selections. The first time I saw it was in 2003 with many people using "electability" as the argument for this or that candidate. (ie - Edwards b/c Democrats can only win the WH with a southerner, and Clark b/c a General always wins. Kerry ended up the nominee b/c he was the most electable.) It was pushed heavily by the Clinton campaign (and Rachel Maddow) in '08 b/c an AA man isn't electable. '16 b/c HRC is electable and Trump won't even be the nominee b/c he isn't electable.

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@wokkamile
but it may have more to do with the sense that nothing much seemed to happen from the June '19 debate through January. Recall that the '08 Democratic went on for a longer period of time -- candidates filing in 2006 and January 2007, first debate April 27, 2007 (a total of 26 were held).

My same v. new dynamic is more pronounced in the general election than primaries. Primary voters that fall for the electibliity trap mostly end up with a ge loser. Republican voters reject that more often than Democrats do and they more easily blow off a loss. They got their man in '64 and weren't about to act like whipped dogs in '68 when they also got their man. GHW Bush was never their guy; but junior was as is Trump. Their guy only lost in '64 and the GOP guy lost five times.

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The media can make or break a candidate. It feels as if they are trying their best to protect Biden. I don't see how they can succeed. If he goes one on one in a debate against Trump? Pffft.
Let's see how he does in the upcoming debate with Bernie.
Truth will out.

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There is an essay on the wreck list about how Russia/Putin is arming Nazis here and it's because an American is married to a Russian woman.

Russia is now sponsoring Nazis
Stalin must be rolling over inside the Kremlin wall...I can feel the spinning!

I seriously want to know how anyone who knows anything about history can believe this? How is it that they don't know that Putin lost family to Nazis during WWII? This would be the same as Bernie supporting them after they killed his family.

But you know who is actually arming neo Nazis in Ukraine? Bibi NuttenYaHoo and others in Israel.

Oops.

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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg Just like the Dems have now become flagrantly the War Party, grabbing the reins held so long by the RW, so the Israelis have now emulated the Nazis they once detested.

Reaction formation

In psychoanalytic theory, reaction formation (German: Reaktionsbildung) is a defense mechanism in which emotions and impulses which are anxiety-producing or perceived to be unacceptable are mastered by exaggeration of the directly opposing tendency.[1][2] The reaction formations belong to Level 3 of neurotic defense mechanisms, which also include dissociation, displacement, intellectualization, and repression....

Even more counter-intuitively, according to this model

"[a] phobia is an example of a reaction formation. The person wants what he fears. He is not afraid of the object; he is afraid of the wish for the object. The reactive fear prevents the dreaded wish from being fulfilled.[3]

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@Alligator Ed
just my mind is so full, I don't know when I could get to it. Thanks.

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@mimi defense mechanism. It is very poor. Indeed, reaction formation from which the DNC suffers mightily, is like a psychological autoimmune over response. It prevents the sufferer from accurately assessing the true origins of the current psychological distress. Without adequate identification of the causes of emotional distress, the resolution of the problem is prevented.

I believe that psychological counseling combined with focus introspection is likely the only way to overcome this self-defeating defense strategy.

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@Cassiodorus And a vote for Bernie is a vote for Biden.

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to go up against Trump. They both babble fantasy as truth, mangle the English language and have tremendous egos. Nobody knows what the hell they're talking about. It'll go 10 rounds and end in a draw. Some lady in Teaneck, NJ will cast the deciding vote.

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@Snode Joe has proven he can't last more than 15 minutes. Commander Cheeto will win any debate by a TKO by the end of round three.

Now JoJo could try to last a bit longer but he hasn't got legs for it--even though he has long blond hair on his frail pegs.

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you sure want to see Joe Dementia's finger on the 'nuclear football' (briefcase) button.

crap; the petition at change.org i put up on a recent thread of mine...still only has 90 signatures: Biden Must Prove He is Mentally Fit to be President

we can hope that his campaign is right, and sanders is about to 'take the gloves off'. OTOH, biden may not survive tonight's debate.

on edit: i'd forgotten that i'd gone to rt.com and grabbed this fom george galloway:

Never reconciled to her 2016 defeat Hillary Clinton could try to make it to White House using Joe Biden’s ‘cognitive decline’, rt.com, march 13

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None of us would put such a move past H Rodent Clinton.

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@TheOtherMaven

although i'd put my money on michelle obomba, myself: identity politics. but his great chronicle of biden's dementia is fantastic, if you read it.

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He claimed to have sponsored the Endangered Species Act.

I don't know how much longer we can tolerate this man or the puppet masters who are holding him up and providing cover for him.

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@Fishtroller 02 But not THAT long. JFC *cringe*

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@Fishtroller 02 Yeah, I know, the Russians did.

Beee

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@Fishtroller 02 Out of curiosity, I did some fact-checking and turns out the Endangered Species Act, which was actually a proposal by the Nixon Administration to strengthen existing law, was sponsored in the US Senate by Harrison Williams (D-NJ). (It did pass 92-0 in the Senate, so I guess Joe can say he helped pass the bill, and the other 91 senators are probably not around these days since it was 47 years ago.) Well, Joe was a freshman Senator from DC so maybe he got confused with a neighboring state, just like the time he happened to accidentally plagiarize five pages of an published article in law school, thought he had a masters degree that he didn't have when putting together a resume, or claimed a degree he didn't have and forgot that those words he used in his 1987 campaign speech were Neil Kinnock's and not his.

Cite: https://ballotpedia.org/History_of_the_Endangered_Species_Act

Earlier versions of the Act pre-dated Biden's service in the US Senate, but maybe Joe wants to take credit for legislation before he even got there, cause most of the major pieces of legislation he backed (Iraq War, crime bill, bank bailout, etc) haven't turned out that well.

And then the DK staff posts pro-Biden fluff like "Joe Biden addresses a nation in crisis and reminds America what leadership really looks like" while those posting two anti-Biden diaries get hit with the dreaded "Bojo" which I of course wear as a badge of honor these days.

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And then the DK staff posts pro-Biden fluff like "Joe Biden addresses a nation in crisis and reminds America what leadership really looks like" while those posting two anti-Biden diaries get hit with the dreaded "Bojo" which I of course wear as a badge of honor these days.

Subir is on time out because he posted some informative diaries on the bills that Biden got passed while others can post one hit diary after another on Bernie and then the anti Bernies get free rein to jump in and say all kinds of horrid things about him and his supporter. Kerry Elved had one yesterday and I shook my head through the whole damn thing.
Biden bros is flaggable, Bernie bros are not. This my dear friends is the definition of hypocrisy and hypocrites. And yet they make fun of us? Lmao!

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One person wrote a good diary on both candidates in the race, but that wasn't what people took from it.

Flagged for “visible cognitive decline.” There’s no place for that CT here.

Oh of course it is. Why? It's right wing talking point and besides Joe just has a stutter that he has worked on his whole life.

It’s absolutely disgusting that Bernie Bros are trying to suggest that Biden randomly wandered off camera during a livestream event yesterday. It’s just a stutter, people!

Oh how I would love to post the transcript there. Someone did post the video but the comment got hidden. SO much for the reality based community. They need to remove that from the site. It's just based on fantasy.

But the diary on how he was once a Bernie supporter until they became mean misogynists. Speaking of you should see what they say about Tulsi. F'ck her and the Russian horse she rode in on. Bernie and his supporters are awful was met with lots of kudos even though it quotes Bernie saying he does not want people to do what they're being accused of.

Chapo house and Krystal on Rising are apparently totally in Bernie's control to dictate what they say. And when Jaypal (?) booed HerHeinous after saying no one like Bernie she should have been told to..... fill in the blanks.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

They didn't have to release the video of his ludicrous/terrifying "town hall" speech which is, quite simply, irrefutable evidence of his absolute inability to assume the position of president. It's the nail in his presidential coffin. The evil geniuses of the DNC are fully aware of this. They want a reaction to it. They want to get Democrats sufficiently alarmed that we demand the party run some other **centrist** rather than the actual (and unthinkable) runner-up, Bernie Sanders.

It's obvious that they aren't even trying to fool us. They are doing what they do: manipulating the public to get a reaction.

* CENTRIST: "Someone who rejects the extremes of Bernie’s far left and Trump’s far right and instead espouses sensible, middle-of-the-road values like endless war and military expansionism, rapacious ecocide, corrupt plutocracy, crushing domestic austerity measures, new cold war nuclear escalations, continued deregulation of sociopathic financial and commercial institutions, police militarization, unprecedented levels of imprisonment, Orwellian surveillance programs, internet censorship, and ever-mounting authoritarianism." - Caitlin Johnstone https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/02/17/op-ed-dems-should-do-the-sensibl...

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

@laurel

falling flakes by the way side
like this makes one want to
throw up
yee gads

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@QMS

They DO, knowingly and maliciously, intend harm to everyone who isn't in their golden 1% circle. "Mistakes" like recommending cuts in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc during a pandemic are not made innocently, or ignorantly.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

what they do to us, @TheOtherMaven . At best, we're cheap labor, useful foot soldiers, and consumers of products. At worst, we're useless eaters, deplorables, and annoying obstacles to the neocon globalist agenda. And then there's the hardcore who cotton to the notion of "depopulation." We should bear these realities in mind when dealing with them. They'll never play fair with us.

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

@laurel

At best, we're cheap labor, useful foot soldiers, and consumers of products.

Until we demand a living wage, until we return scarred and maimed for live, and until we run out of money and credit. At that point, we're supposed to do right by them and die.

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@Marie

Sometimes I stand way, way back to get a glimpse of the much-bigger picture, and what I see is a planet with lots of humans on it loosely organized into shifting socioeconomic tribes, city-states, kingdoms, empires, feudal hierarchies, dictatorships and republics, just muddling along making progress and messes along the way. And then, when technology had advanced to the point that world domination could become conceivable, a collection of wealthy folks and evil geniuses decided to go for it. They assumed they were smarter, better, and more deserving than the rest of their fellow human beings and devised a plan to, essentially, subjugate the rest of the world. The Powell memo fits in here, but there was more going on. In my little life, I began noticing the shift into structural elitism and a gradual swindling of the middle classes during the Reagan era but instead of getting better after the election of a Democrat (Clinton), it solidified and went global. Then, helped along by 9/11 (PNAC) and a plethora of new technological tools, it became possible to surveil, gaslight, and brainwash the populace to the point of near-complete subjugation. I hoped Obama would undo it, but he was part of it. Trump is an anomaly; he doesn't quite fit in with them but he is unable to fight or even resist them. Somehow, he is still in their way and they want to get rid of him, although he's useful as a bogeyman.

Then comes Bernie Sanders, who has been aware of and opposed to this shit since his youth and is bold enough to put it into words that reach and motivate a significant slice of the population, and they really need to stop him in his tracks. They're probably less afraid of Bernie than of the movement that has grown around him. They've planted a few controlled opposition actors and gate-keepers to dilute and mislead the movement until they figure out how to deal with us. They are fully prepared for any kind of violent revolution. Whatever we do is going to have to be sneakier and less direct than that. I've even wondered if it might come to purposeful destruction of certain technologies.

But I keep hoping something good will occur to change the ugly course we're on. Maybe some genius could come up with an antidote to psychopathy. That would at least level the playing field, some.

I've said a lot more here than I intended to say, but I think I'll leave it as is for the time-being. Give rose

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

@QMS . Could you unwrap your cryptic comment so that I can understand it? Sorry to be so slow. Smile

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

@laurel

sometimes the brain explodes with ideas
spreading out before explicable themes unwind

probably could have spoken finer by saying
it is sad the biden is being forced down the
collective throats of the masses not inclined
to think things thru as to the consequence

visceral reaction

would rather these spouts made more sense

thanks

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@QMS -- intuitive sense. Intuition is a way of knowing. This site would be boring if it were wall to wall logic and reasoned explication. We need our artists and poets.

Stay beautiful.

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Lurking in the wings is Hillary, like some terrifying bat hanging by her feet in a cavern below the DNC. A bat with theropod instincts. -- Fred Reed https://tinyurl.com/vgvuhcl

… but, due to recent events (namely the C19 virus), I have to say that Biden's chances of becoming President -- assume he makes it through the General Election -- are enhanced, as the existence of the C19 makes it much less likely Trump will win re-election, due to either or both of these two likely/possible outcomes:

1. Massively high death totals, and Trump, as the incumbent President, is blamed
and/or
2. Massive disruption causing economic panic and possible recession, and once again, the incumbent President is blamed.

Of course, this would benefit any Dem nominee, including Bernie, but it looks like the DNC establishment and their media allies are locked in on supporting Biden at this point. But, there's still six months to go until Nov., and plenty of time for things to change and, of course, for Biden to stumble.

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@JCWeb

But I really feel that Biden will never be allowed to continue with the election even if he wins the primary. Hi just isn't there anymore and people in power will not let him be president.

Hillary is waiting in the wings to take up the mantle. The odds keep going up every time Joe speaks.

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@snoopydawg … becomes even more important. If Biden is nominated and has to step aside for any reason, then I believe the DNC gets to name his replacement but, in that case, I would think it would hard not to go with the VP nominee and then name a replacement VP pick.

Historical note: This kind of thing has only happened twice before, where a major party nominee is withdrawn or dies before the fall election. Both were VP picks, never the top of the ticket, and neither ticket prevailed: 1912, Rep. VP Sherman (Taft's running mate) died a week before the election, replaced by Butler (Columbia University President) and, more recently, in my lifetime, in 1972, Tom Eagleton was forced off the ticket by McGovern (due to issues related to certain medical treatment) and replaced by Sargent Shriver. Ironically, both of these losing tickets ended up winning the electoral votes of just 1 or 2 states, so not a good track record, in any event.

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