Debate watchers thread 2-19-20

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And then Amy piled on

To think, I was worried about Bloomberg winning and Bernie, Liz & Amy all put him on the ropes already and now Biden is plling on

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trying to cut out the middle man.

Now even CIA Pete is jumping in.

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@Alphalop
I hope they crush him!

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@Raggedy Ann I as well. ScumBerg is a horrible candidate and an even worse human being

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keep the commentary coming!

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@Raggedy Ann Thanks! I'm trying, the typing fingers don't fly like they used to.

Damned nerve damage lol!

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@Alphalop

help reverse neuropathy.

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and his fake smile when they do isn't convincing at all.

Biden is standing around mostly with a deer in the headlights look he seems to have so often lately.

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Mr RA is driving - don’t worry!

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@Raggedy Ann LOL I was hoping!

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incredibly fake to me.

Am I the only one?

It's like the sounds are right but the look in her eyes doesn't seem to convey the same thing as her mouth noises.

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@Alphalop
Too bad!

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@aliasalias YES!

I was wondering why they seemed weird yet familar!

She just needs to cover the top of her head with her shirt and she's the Great Cornholelio

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Now Pete is trying to say, "Sanders supporters are meanies" basically and trying to blame a candidate for their supporters.

As if they have any control.

If that was a qualifier we'd have never had Hillary on the ballot at all in 16.

Amy sounds ok, but I really don't trust her and I don't like how her and Pete are trying to keep pitting those with insurance against those without it.

It's gross imo.

Everyone deserves quality care.

Bernie is making the case now.

He's hitting on the facts that this isn't an outside idea, brought up that this has been attempted for over 100 years now.

Bernie just told the Culinary union that he wont sign a bill that has less coverage than they do now.

I like that.

Bloomberg is still resting on the ropes. Hasn't said a word since his opening line.

Liz is now attacking Amy and her plan.

Now she's shifted to attacking Bernie's.

Not a smart move imo opinion as the support for bernies plan is higher than hers.

Pete is trying to make the case for his now.

But a multi payer plan won't lower costs so is unworkable I believe

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he's a liar

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@Shahryar

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@boriscleto

LOL I was trying to think of one too.

Meerkat?

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@boriscleto I think it's those teeth -- they never stop chattering. I suppose they have a niche in a reasonable ecosystem, but seriously.

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Thanks for your hosting and commentary, Alphalop

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@janis b NBC news on youtube.
Apparently NBC is an hour behind. The debates really started at 5pm Pacific Time. Here's some other links.
TYT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrveUcJhDSA

NBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjPhkrfOesc

MSDNC (not official)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_0WasGyf5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip2JIIZMKaU

David Pakman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJN4pS_ww5Q

Anthony Brian Logan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_CjM6Ipy5s

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@BORG_US_BORG

I've just tuned into the Warren and Bloomberg exchange. Good on Warren so far. So far Bloomberg sounds quite insecure if I go by the quality of his voice and his wordy nonsense.

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@janis b And this comment thread on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/f6kh8a/democratic_...

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@janis b I agree.

But I never could stand the guy anyway so there is that.

I think he could be even more of an issue than Trump.

He's a Sleeze with suave...

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@janis b

https://pluto.tv/live-tv/nbc-news-now

It's working well for me and thanks JnH for posting it.

The debate sucks because the moderators are pushing memes that aren't true.

Just what do people need to see in health records? Can people interpret lab results? Read an EKG? Other test results? No. physician letters should be enough.

Bloomberg's lying about his record on me too. He's losing.

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@snoopydawg

Pluto TV is not available here, but I am listening on NBC

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@janis b It's on NBC.

I'm in Cape Coral, FL Smile

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I am listening to her and giving it a chance but I did't find her argument convincing for the same reason as Petes.

Bernie is countering with, "What's wrong with our nation that every other industrialized nation can pull off what we can't"

Seems to have resonated with the audience.

Biden is getting more applause but I am not sure if it is because he keeps name dropping Obama.

They cycled back to liz who is now saying everyones is bad and said, "Amy, I went to your site, your plan is TWO PARAGRAPHS!"

Now Bloomberg is trying to claim he was for Obama care and Biden is saying its not. Biden tried to respond and Bloomberg slapped him down with, "LET ME FINISH!" and had an uncomfortable silence from the audience.

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@Alphalop
A hush comes over the audience. He shits in his pants but only the smell is evident.

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@Alphalop I have to admit, I’m not familiar with Bloomberg’s past debate performances but I’ve read he has a hard time keeping his cool. People have been wondering who was going to push him over the edge tonight.

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@Dr. John Carpenter Apparently everyone. Smile

I think he's not used to people speaking to him like this.

Poor guy.

LoL.

I wouldn't piss down his throat if his heart was on fire.

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@Alphalop He needs a raspier voice, too -- it would be more entertaining if he were in fact Montgomery Burns.

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@Cassiodorus

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This shit is bananas.

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@Daenerys hm. Would be fun to see the whole episode.

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@Cassiodorus Bart found that was going to destroy Springfield, but I might be misremembering; I haven't watched an episode in years, even old ones.

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This shit is bananas.

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said about not stopping ENOUGH minorities and he's diverting towards gun control as an excuse and just messed up, He contradicted himself right after also saying that it got out of control.

Does anyone that cant keep his police under control deserve to be in charge of the fucking military?

I hope someone points that out.

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Winner? who knows.
Losers? Us.
What a shitfest.

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@Pricknick I don't blame ya, lol!

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Apparently, Amy's Spanish name is Elena.

Who knew?

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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@Bollox Ref LOL I didnt even know she was spanish.

Now Amy is being grilled for her record over a case that she prosecuted maybe? I missed that part.

But it was about an 11 year old girl and she convicted a person who was only brought up for review because of an investigative journalist.

Now they are talking about her large numbers of shootings.

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And she is getting some applause for it.

Shes doing a pretty good job.

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I found this gem among the dregs at TOP

ruscle
Feb 20, 2020 at 02:36:02 PM

“I expect the moderators to be all giggly and sweet with Mike since he is spending billions on advertising. Everyone wants some of that sugar. “

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@janis b Yeah, they pitched him a softball on coal but all the other candidates are more than filling the void, lol!

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@Alphalop

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After the shit he said I don't see how they can possibly justify having him as a member of the panel.

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@Alphalop Jon Ralston, one of the lesser luminaries on the panel of MSM dolts, was the originator of the false story about Bernie supporters throwing chairs at the Nevada caucus in 2016.

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@Bob In Portland

So we are Chair throwing brown shirts according to that panel?

And they say Sanders supporters are toxic? LOL

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They are going on about releasing medical records, claimed Bernie didn't and Bernie checked him well.

Pete diverted the question by attacking the cost of Bernies health plan.

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If I remember right he only gave a summary?

Didn't touch a lot on medical records surprisingly. Smile

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and his excuse," thats the way I was brought up" wasn't good.

Now Bloomberg is saying he hires a lot of women so that is an excuse.

Liz said his excuse was basically, "I was nice to some women" and now she is asking for him to release the NDA's and he is hemming and hawing and is getting boo's from what sounds a lot of women.

Liz is doing good on this, she keeps holding his feet to the fire about releasing them and he is refusing.

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@Alphalop

They all take turns hauling each other down. Except Bernie.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

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@Alphalop she got a lot of cheers.

Now Biden is saying the exact same thing, "All you gotta say is they are released."

Biden is actually doing good on it too.

Bloomberg still is saying he's not ending them because they were made consensualy

And now Bernie is hammering him for contributing heavily to Bush.

Bloomberg lost that one BAD

That alone may have just tanked his candidacy if the MSM actually reports on it.

Now amy got asked about forgetting the mexican presidents name, she said, "I knew, I just forgot" lol

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@Alphalop "Binders full of women" moment.

I didn't watch the debate, but the internet commentary is glorious!

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This shit is bananas.

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and Bloomy is, I think, toast

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@Shahryar I am not either, but trying to relay the impression I get both from the audience and trying to also color it with my own thoughts while trying to stay neutral. (But its fucking HARD being neutral with CIA Pete and Bloomberg, lol!

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@Shahryar

I think Amy may indeed be a lizard person...

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@Shahryar when you have as much money as Bloomberg has.

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audience.

She went back harder and then Liz joined her after it turned into a free for all. the mod tried to ask another question and the candidates ignored her and went back to the old question lol

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Bloomy is not going to win.

Pete's a slimebucket.

Biden is alive, apparently. I think.

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@Shahryar I think Biden is still alive but mostly by keeping his head down.

Oh, Just the way Bernie says, "Chuck" you know he'd love to bitch smack his punk ass.

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@Alphalop Bernie's going to have to get in line if he wants to slap Chuck Todd. The line's been forming for awhile.

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@Shahryar "He's still alive."

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subjects. Policy does not seem to be part of the debate.

That said amy is not handling her answers very well. The sooner that she is off the stage the better.

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@humphrey
expect more from them. Remember - gray matter counts.

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@Raggedy Ann I am still pissed that they don't let the League of Women Voters host the debates anymore.

They always did an incredible job.

MSM talking heads are just ratings whores that are good at reading from a prompter quickly, not for critical thinking...

Such a shame.

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@humphrey Her only shining moments are when she's attacking her "colleagues"

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@humphrey But I didn't see the first part of the debate. She was, of course, down in the vacuous end of the spectrum, near Pete but not quite as bad.

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Thank you!

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@humphrey
make it to the convention if he just smiles broadly?

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@Raggedy Ann dementia.

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@Raggedy Ann Wasn't that Jimmy Carter's claim to fame?

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But he is too dense to know it.

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@humphrey
Details!

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@Raggedy Ann He thought he had a question with regards to fracking that he was going to stick it to Bernie. But bernie put him in his place.

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@humphrey
Give him the Bern!

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@Raggedy Ann Chuck Todd reminds me of a lyric by the Doors. "There's a killer on the road. His brain is squirmin' like a toad." Not so much the first part about the killer, but the part about the brain squirmin' like a toad.

Chuck Todd's brain is squirmin' like a toad. Chuck Toad.

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@humphrey One of the only redeeming things about having him there. LOL

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to those of you watching this event so that I don't have to. Keep the comments coming.

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@WoodsDweller You'll be owing a lot of us a beer for this torture.

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@WoodsDweller A circular firing squad with all the shots hitting Bernie just bouncing off, while blood flows everywhere else. There were sooo many moments that were priceless.

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at least so far.

Bernie at least has the right ideas but so far Bloomberg and Pete is trying to turn it into electability and called Sanders and Bloomberg the most polarizing people on the stage.

The fact that Sanders is the polar opposite of Trump, Bloomberg and Rat Boy is a plus in my book.

Warren is talking about factories being in poor neighborhoods of color.

Then Lift people up so they can live far away and not allow residential homes in those zones and just have a commuter rail line going in would be a better option than the feel good non answer she gave imo

Now biden is saying something similar and talking about redlining.

I didn't think that could happen anymore, even down here in Florida when I was practicing real estate they had a whole course on it and how badly they will fry his ass.

God, I can't even sum up pete because I can't get over how he overemphasizes an accent saying Latino

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He got called out for redlining tried to turn it into about how he was the only one that started a business, paused for an applause break.

Awkward silence.

He goes, "Ok"

That gets a laugh, lol!

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@Alphalop
I’m still loling!

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ByeDone, Warren and Amy. It's too bad that none of them tried getting them done when MyBoss was president. Lots of great ideas but they did jack when they had the chance. Why didn't Joe and MyBoss roll back tax breaks and subsidies on the oil companies when they were in office.

But again this format sucks. The moderators cut people off instead of listening to the questions they asked.

Bloomberg is lying about redling. Again. We've seen the tapes, Mike. Oh goody you started a business. Hard to not make it successful when you got $$$ to back it up.

Bernie is going after Bloomberg again on taxes. BTW..they quit paying into social security. Bloomberg knows damn well that rich people get the bills passed that work for them.

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Bernie hit Bloomberg hard and where it's going to do lots of damage.

Pack your bags, Mike.

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@snoopydawg

That's a slick and rapid campaign team promo ad. One of Bernie's best debate moments, but far better with the additions of Republican Mike in his own words.

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