The audacity of Iran

Submitted by snoopydawg on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 10:07pm

Hey, Gorka you are describing the USA you idiot. And for gawd's sake why should he support our troops and not other country's troops?

BTW..is Putin still next door in Syria? Asking for a friend. Interesting timing don't you think for him to visit with Assad? I don't think it's subtle.

Voices of reason.

[video:https://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=GVWmmVhS0uc]

From president bone spurs.

All is well? You dumb idiot. No it's not a good thing when two countries are sending missiles at each other. Trump was supposed to address the nation tonight, but I guess he went to bed.

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Submitted by Daenerys on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 10:41pm
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This shit is bananas.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 11:00pm
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US Sent Reinforcements To Northern Baghdad During Withdrawal Report

Under the cover of mass confusion over Monday's alleged US withdrawal letter, which was then denied by the Pentagon, the US military stealthily resupplied the Taiji Camp north of Baghdad with troops and equipment, said Al-Masdar News, citing security expert, Hisham Al-Hashemi, who is also an advisor to the Iraqi government on terrorism. Hashemi said that while "everyone was busy discussing the message of the American forces to the Iraqi joint command about their' withdrawal," he was one of the few that pointed out this was merely fake news (actually, so were we, as the report came just moments after our article about the deployment of another 2,500 marines).

"During that period, several American convoys entered the Taiji camp, north of Baghdad, and cargo planes landed with additional equipment," he said.

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Hashemi said the Pentagon launched an informational war on Iraqis, giving them the perception that increased helicopter and convoy traffic was part of a withdraw mission from the region. But really, it was a deceptive tactic that allowed reinforcements to arrive at the Taiji camp.

The confusion lasted several hours on Monday afternoon into evening, allowing the US military, at that time, to resupply the camp and prepare for an upcoming fight.

So I'm guessing that if Iraq ever does tell us to get the hell out of their country we will just tell them no. So much for spending so many lives to bring freedom and democracy to them.

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 11:10pm
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Check Zero Hedge.

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 11:20pm
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...the way you can put these stories together so fast in such an interesting way using Twitter.

It's a strangely gripping presentation. In a way, it is more powerful than broadcast news presentations.

Re topic:

I think this is a controlled response by all parties. Agreed upon in advance.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 11:52pm
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I'm following some great people on Twitter and they are posting such great news. Yes I have been to zero hedges. I found the above article there. Gotta keep an open mind over there though. Dylan posts a few nut jobs who think that all the world's problems are because of democrats. The country's problems are not just because of one party.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Tue, 01/07/2020 - 11:42pm

I will only believe it if I check other sources.
I am skeptical of everything.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:01am
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This was just a rumor earlier today, but apparently enough people know about it and it's being confirmed.

Iraqi Prime Minister Was Forced To Resign After Trump Threatened His Life

On January 5th, the Iraqi parliament voted on a resolution to expel US troops from the country. In attendance was, caretaker Prime Minister Adel Abdul-Mahdi, who, according to reports provided insight into why specifically Iraq was in this situation, and predominantly spoke about threats that came his way from US President Donald Trump and the US policy towards the country.

The following is the summary of reports regarding Abdul-Mehdi’s comments during the January 5 vote of the Iraqi Parliament. These reports have been nor officially confirmed nor denied by the Prime Minister office.

Abdul-Mehdi adressed the US hostile actions against the country. For example, the politician reportedly said that the US refused to complete the infrastructure and electricity grid projects unless it is promised 50% of oil revenues. The Prime Minister refused to make the concession.

Then, when the Prime Minister visited China and reached an important agreement to undertake construction of the projects instead of the US, President Donald Trump allegedly called him, telling him to rescind the agreement with China, otherwise there would be massive demonstrations against him, that would force him out of his seat.

HINT: A 50-person Iraqi delegation visited China in 2019 and that protests began on October 1st, observed a religious holiday, and then ramped up once again on October 25th. The flames of the protests were further fanned by mainstream media outlets.

Then, when massive demonstrations materialized against Adel Abdul-Mahdi, Trump once again allegedly called him. The US President allegedly threatened to position US marine snipers “atop the highest buildings,” who will target and kill protesters and security forces alike in an attempt to pressure the Prime Minister.

Instead of complying, Adel Abdul-Mahdi refused and handed in his resignation and the US still attempt to pressure him in cancelling the supposed deal with China.

Later on, when the Iraqi Minister of Defense publicly said that a third side was targeting both protesters and security forces alike, Abdul-Mahdi allegedly received a new call from Trump who threatened to kill both him and the Minister of Defense if they kept talking about this “third side”.

There is more...

Also this threadreader tweet on the same subject.

Assad said that he finds Trumps brutal honesty refreshing. Instead of hiding behind nicely worded threats Trump just comes out and tells people what he means.

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Submitted by wendy davis on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:06pm
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about the south from report on both his resignation, or if he's resigned, the reason for it. i realize that he's between a rock and hard place, as he was pretty much 'voted into office' by the USA, and corrupt as hell. elijan magnier pit it more delicately in his newest piece... but all sites that repeat it link back to southfront.

but this morning he's saying rather enigmatically (at least to me):

now later he seems to accept that fact as planned:

@ejmalrai
11h11 hours ago

#Iran #USA "The attacks appear to have been carefully calibrated to avoid US casualties. #US bases in #Iraq were already on high alert.

This is a first step Iran is initiating to give the go to further attacks by Iran and its allies to exhaust US forces in the Middle East."

and:

@ejmalrai
11h11 hours ago

Elijah J. Magnier Retweeted Redas "To hit the #US symbolically, in its pride, and tell the US: we are not afraid of you.

The image of the US is shaking and the image of #Iran is boosting by confronting a superpower with or without casualties.

Russia and China are laughing now."

meaning: i dunno. he'd also tweeted this news with a link to the sacramento bee, but as i couldn't get in, i found it at the L times. this may be the 'contractor' edg had been asking about:

U.S. contractor killed in Iraq, Nawres Hamid, which led to strike on Iranian general, buried in Sacramento, jan. 7, 2020

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:52pm
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this was a warning shot over the bow of the bad ship USS Confrontation
Very well could have made more damage if Iran was into killing
as much as the US has been forever.

There is no forgiving breaking the peace, as fragile as it may be now.
Trump's buddies are gleefully anticipating bombs and death.
Iran wants US out of the mideast.
As does Iraq.
And Afghanistan.
And Libya.
The Kurds, Turkey, and a bunch of small players would sigh relief.
If uncle sam would just get the fuck out of their affairs.

But nooo, we got national interests (read oil) at stake here.
Exxonmobil won't fund our re-election campaigns if we show weakness
so kill, kill, kill. Freedom and democracy. Red white and fright.
Sheesh

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Submitted by Situational Lefty on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:18am
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unless it's agreed upon with Russia.

The oil from Iran will flow through either the Russian oligarchs or the American Capitalists.

Both parties are staunchly against Democracy in Iran.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:27am
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I haven't read anything about that.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:26am
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Who are these Russian oligarchs? The ones in New York and London? They have a lot of money they made stealing from Russia until Putin put an end to it. Besides, they're mainly into wheeling and dealing real estate like the Trump family, not oil.

The world is not dependent on Iranian oil. But it is dependent on Gulf oil and gas. A few missiles fired into a Q-Max will cause a real problem - mainly in Europe. Without a steady supply of gas and oil from the Saudis and Emirates it will very quickly get cold and dark in Europe this winter and they'll soon regret allowing Uncle Sammmy to put a kink in Nord Stream 2 and TurkStream.

Speaking of TurkStream, Putin will be going to Turkey to attend the official launching with Erdogan right after his pleasant visit with Assad. I wonder what in the world Putin and Erdogan are going to do with those extra 31.5 billion cubic meters of natural gas?

Russia and China are relatively isolated. American actions in the last 2 decades have caused the two to elope and their love affair is going strong. Putin and Xi have already had 30 intimate dates discussing just this very scenario.

Of course, the extra transport costs to ship America's shoes, underwear and pots to piss in is going to be a bitch for the now burgeoning poor class.

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Submitted by Wally on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 7:14am
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I'm reminded of the big bad wolf here.

That said, we're all at the mercy of gangsters the world over if we don't get behind Bernie, the only candidate who can win the nomination and beat the warmongering madman Trump.

Edit/Add: And, oh yea, who was Trump's first secretary of state?

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 7:32am
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Perhaps Rex Tillerson
Hugely wise move/s

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Submitted by Wally on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 8:06am
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Maybe Trump will wind up doing what Hillary and the Kagans wanted to???? The ultimate Kabuki would be if they are all still actually in cahoots.

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Submitted by Bisbonian on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 9:32pm
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@Wally

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 10:47am
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business men in America - oligarchs in Russia.

You may want to research Gazprom to see how it is currently managed by their elected 'oligarchs'.

Gazprom is 50.25% Russian state owned. All profits generated when oil sells for over $40 bbl go into Russia's National Wealth Fund to be used for pensions, infrastructure improvements and other non-resource projects such as high-technology. The NWF has $124.46 billion as of Nov. 1, 2019. These funds can no longer be used to finance oil and gas projects.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrc80ia6lE]

Maybe Bernie will put nationalizing the oil companies on his ticket for 2020. We sure can use their fantastic profits (frackers excepted) for health care and badly needed infrastructure repairs instead of giving them tax breaks.

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Submitted by Wally on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 11:20am
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No other candidate is suggesting that.

Eyes on the prize. One step at a time.

I'm none too fond of oligarchs or authoritarian leaders anywhere.

Nationalization of energy industries sounds good to me.

Thanks, btw, for previously sharing notice of and linking the Seven Sisters doc which is indeed well done and very enlightening.

I've also noticed that Gazprom stock was going up last year but since the beginning of the year has gone down.

Seems they are now loosening up on witholding gas to Belarus and Ukraine, too.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:46pm
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gas from Belarus or Ukraine.

At the demise of the Soviet Union all the so-called transit countries were given ownership of the pipeline system within their respective countries. As such, they are responsible for the maintenance and upkeep of these pipelines - that is the purpose of the transit fees.

Many countries spent the transit fees for other purposes and let the pipelines decay. This was part of the Ukraine situation. The Ukraine also stole European gas passing through their country and refused to pay for it.

Belarus has a special relationship with Russia (which the US is currently trying to destroy as it did with Ukraine). Gazprom has always worked closely with and helped Belarus maintain the pipelines. They receive a special discount for the gas they purchase.

Belarus and Russia's regions

The cooperation between Belarus and Russia on the regional level is a foundation for stronger trade and economic, scientific and technical, and socio-cultural relations. In particular, the Belarus-Russia priorities include the development of direct cooperation with the Russian regions.

The legal framework of bilateral cooperation between Belarus and Russian regions includes nearly 200 treaties, agreements and protocols. Generally, the documents contribute to the further development of mutual multidirectional relations between the countries. The biggest part of the agreements is economy-related: promotion of mutual supplies, expansion of distribution networks, strengthening of industrial partnership, establishment of assembly productions.
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Thus regional cooperation is one of the most productive areas of the Belarusian-Russian interaction. The establishment of cooperation between our regions strengthens mutually beneficial economic ties and brings together civic, creative and intellectual potential to foster progress in both countries.

Ukraine has a history of using the transit fees for other purposes while also skimming European gas from the lines (the Gas Princess, Yulia Tymoshenko, amassed a fortune when she headed Unified Energy Systems). Naftogaz and the gas companies tasked with redistribution of gas in the country are a cesspit of graft and corruption of which Hunter Biden was a beneficiary of.

I doubt state owned Naftogaz and it's distributors will invest into upgrading their pipelines so the leaky system will eventually fall into such disrepair that it will become unreliable. This is one of the main reasons for constructing NordStream 2. Russia has no intention of repairing pipelines over which they have no control let alone ownership.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:00pm
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@Wally
Have a look at the 5 yr stock price chart. It is the highest ever in 2019.
If you would have bought stock in 2017, you would have more than doubled your money today.

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Submitted by Wally on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:00pm
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. . . if I was Gazprom:

No worries about diversity, I see.

Folks can do their own research on Gazprom and geopolitics.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 5:16pm
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@Wally @Wally
get a direct share of the nation's oil/gas resources. $124 billion is not too shabby for an average oil price of $65 and $55 in the last two years. The Russian National Wealth fund only gets funds when the price of oil exceeds $40.

Chevron paid zero federal taxes in 2018 despite gross profit of $66.894B.

In Russia, the country's resources belong to the people. Attempts by the US to privatize Russia's resources and state owned enterprises with neoliberal Laissez-Faire Capitalism in the 1990's was put to an end by Putin. This one of the major reasons he is demonized by the corporate controlled media in the west.

[edit year 2090 I don't think Putin will remain top dog THAT long]

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Submitted by Wally on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 7:41pm
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@CB @CB

Part III, The Dancing Bear, is especially interesting:

[video:https://youtu.be/N-Lub2ecXGM]

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Submitted by laurel on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 4:15pm

@snoopydawg on that remark https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1214775976141475842?ref_src=twsrc%...
and I'm glad they did. Aaron implied that somehow Hillary would have been better, but given her repeated recklessly aggressive verbal threats to Iran, Iraq, Syria and Russia, I believe that at this point in her presidency, we would have been engaged in full-on warfare with multiple countries, possibly amounting to WWIII.

A few hours ago, Niko House reported on his YT channel that #IVOTEDFORCLINTON was trending as No. 1 on Twitter during Trump's speech. Oh yeah, Trump is sooo much more militaristic than dear peaceful Hillary. Yeah, let's pretend. But this mess will definitely hurt Trump, as it should, and the warmongering corpoDems will figure out a way to use it against Bernie and of course Tulsi during the primary. In fact, maybe they'll take this opportune time to helicopter the Queen in to rescue the Party from the Socialist menace. Sure hope Aaron won't be encouraging them.

Jimmy Dore really likes and respects Aaron Mate, which is one of the reasons I like and respect him too. I wonder if Jimmy will mention this?

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 5:09pm
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Yeah I don't think Hillary would be a dove if she was president. She talked a lot about creating a no fly zone over Syria and that might have increased tensions with Russia. However I think Aaron's point in his tweet was what Obama had done and how he left Trump too much power.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:34am
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U.S transfers 6 B52s to Diego Garcia’s base

DIEGO GARCIA – FRN has been made aware of Chinese media reports that in connection with the worsening relations between the United States and Iran, the Pentagon has sent six B-52 bombers to their base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean to engage in military operations against Iran. Chinese military and mercantile vessels are regularly in the area.
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At the present time, the chances of situation escalating into a larger military conflict are high.
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The United States has several military bases in areas close to Iran, but this time they have chosen Diego Garcia because the distance exceeds the maximum distance that Iranian missiles can cover.
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But Israel and the entire gulf are not. The B52's will also not be out of range as they approach Iran's shores.

I wonder how a huge spike energy costs will affect the already weakening US economy? Trump always got greatly pleasure from bragging about his biggly economy. His bid for 2020 will go down in tatters if the already unstable market crashes this year.

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Submitted by wendy davis on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:51pm
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sputnik news had reported: ‘UK Nuclear Sub ‘in Position to Strike Iran’ Amid Tensions Over Soleimani’s Killing – Report’

"Earlier on Sunday, about 50 members of the UK’s Special Air Service (SAS) were sent to Iraq to help with the potential evacuation of Britons following Friday’s US drone strike which killed Qasem Soleimani, head of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)’s elite Quds Force.

A UK Royal Navy nuclear-powered attack submarine will be “in position to strike Iran” if the current tensions between Tehran and Washington over the killing of an Iranian general result in a full-fledged armed conflict, The Sun reports .

The newspaper cited unnamed senior UK defence sources as saying that an Astute-class hunter-killer sub armed with Tomahawk cruise nuclear missiles “was sat silently” in range of Iran.

The sources added that even though there won’t be a first strike, “every precaution is being made, depending on how Iran reacts to the death of Soleimani”."

and so on.

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Submitted by Situational Lefty on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:43am
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before 1952, when the United States decided to overthrow the government of Mohammad Mossadegh.

The United States then installed the government of the Shah, which lasted until the Iranians rebelled in 1979. Since 1979 the oil has flowed through the government of Russia.

Both super powers seem to be happy as long as Iran is not in charge of its own oil.

No Democracy in Iran seems to be the consensus.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:07am
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Since 1979 the oil has flowed through the government of Russia.

Iran nationalized it's oil production in 1979 and Russia had nothing to do with this.

The era of nationalized oil, 1979–present
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Following the Revolution, the NIOC took control of Iran's petroleum industry and canceled Iran's international oil agreements. In 1980 the exploration, production, sale, and export of oil were delegated to the Ministry of Petroleum. Initially Iran's post-revolutionary oil policy was based on foreign currency requirements and the long-term preservation of the natural resource. Following the Iran–Iraq War, however, this policy was replaced by a more aggressive approach: maximizing exports and accelerating economic growth. From 1979 until 1998, Iran did not sign any oil agreements with foreign oil companies.
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In the early 2000s, leading international oil firms from China, France, India, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Spain, and the United Kingdom had agreements to develop Iran's oil and gas fields. In 2004 China signed a major agreement to buy oil and gas from Iran, as well as to develop Iran's Yadavaran oil field. The value of this contract was estimated at US$150 billion to US$200 billion over 25 years.[5][30] In 2009, China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC) signed a deal with the National Iranian Oil Company whereby the former took ownership of a 70% stake upon promising to pay 90 percent of the development costs for the South Azadegan oil field, with the project needing investment of up to $2.5 billion. Earlier that year, CNPC also won a $2 billion deal to develop the first phase of the North Azadegan oilfield.[31]
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US sanctions have pushed Iran firmly into the welcoming arms of both Russia and China. It's another burgeoning love affair - a ménage à trois? The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

Russia And Iran Sign Flurry Of Energy Deals, What’s Next?
Nov 10, 2016

Russia & Iran sign oil-for-goods trade agreement
25 May, 2017

Despite U.S. sanctions, Iran sees oil lifeline from Russia, China and India
August 24, 2018

Iran did get a lot of help from Russia with arms sales and working on their nuclear reactors since 1979.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 11:40am
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The 1953 coup in Iran was because they were going to use their oil for their own people and Rockefeller's British Petroleum and the crown were upset about that. Hence we got our puppet dictator the Shah who reversed that decision. This was the CIA's second coup and it created a pattern for any country that wanted its oil to help their own people must be overthrown and puppet dictators installed that do our bidding.

China is helping Iran more with their oil problems from our sanctions than Russia is. As to who actually said what regarding Lavrov and Putin it doesn't matter because someone made that up in their own mind. Which happens frequently.

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:08pm
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Enjoy...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE0fucxLvKI]

They have been trying ever since.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:17am
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We need all his phone transcripts now. Lavrov and putin have been giving orders. This is beyond being a traitor. Make who great again?

This is just one of the many comments saying that Trump is doing Putin's bidding.

Again..take a bow folks!

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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:49am
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Probably just Vovan & Lexus Wink

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:21am
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Submitted by CB on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:22am
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will be a sight to behold.

Can you imagine 5.7 billion cu ft of natural going up in flames? Maybe Trump will see it from his bedroom in Mar-a-Lago?

[edited]

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:29pm
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Why?

According to Politico, top House Democrats are considering abandoning entirely the attempt to constrain Trump's ability to wage war on Iran following the Iranian missile strikes.

"Moderate Democrats had their own reservations about the whole exercise, and are unwilling to draft a resolution that would hamstring the military in its response to future attacks," Politico reported. "They're also hesitant to support any language that would directly repudiate Trump for the Soleimani killing."

Put it up for a vote Nancy so we can see which democrats are willing to go to war with Iran you useless roadblock for everything progressive!. If the centrists democrats can't see through her shtick by now then they are willing turn a blind eye to it.

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:59pm
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done and needs to go.

I hope they all will thrown out of their positions. It looks like the US needs a revolution. I remember people who said that often here. when that seemed to be outlandish and much like hot air rhetoric. But today it sounds like reasonable.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:30pm
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Pelosi is a Republican mole; she sabotages any efforts to reform our corrupt corporate dominated political system. Examples: pay to go, dissing the Green New Deal and Medicare for All, delayed impeachment efforts, minimized impeachment charges, delaying voting to restrict Trump’s ability to start a war with Iran.
If she was honest-definitely not-she would switch parties.
If you can’t move ahead Nancy, get out of the way.
She is a stellar example of the need for Congressional term limits and reform of the Congressional leadership system. The inordinate power and capriciousness of these individuals is exemplified by her and Mitch McConnell who stymie the will of majority rule.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 12:53pm
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"Biden would like you to believe that he has seen the light when it comes to the folly of imperialist adventures abroad, that he has found redemption post-Iraq. But his response to the assassination of Soleimani suggests that the old Biden is alive and well." —Meagan Day, Jacobin magazine
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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:23pm
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@snoopydawg @snoopydawg
I know Iraq war veterans who would spit on his prayers. The times for jokes are over. And the politicians can push their snark (if they are capable of verbalize such) into their own asses too.

Man, I am so done.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 1:13pm
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Starts at 20:40

Hey Trump get a f'cking mirror and look in it!

Surprise surprise he is lying his ass of about Qassem Soleimani.

I can't listen to his literal sniveling lies and if you don't want to either here is the rundown of his propaganda full speech:

Speaking from the White House, Trump backed away from threatening further strikes against Iran, describing Tehran’s stand-down as “a good thing for all parties concerned.”


Our missiles are big, powerful, accurate, lethal and fast...The fact that we have this great military and equipment, however, does not mean that we have to use it.

“Iran must abandon its nuclear ambitions and end its support for terrorism,” Trump continued. “Time has come for the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia and China to recognize this reality. They must now break away from the remnants of the JCPOA.”

“ISIS [Islamic State, IS, ISIL] is the natural enemy of Iran,” he said. “The destruction of ISIS is good for Iran. And we should work together on this and many other shared priorities.”

Anyone hear if any of the missles were shot down?

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:12pm
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bipolar gobbledygook.
[video:https://youtu.be/hh4To4PLo7M]

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:05pm
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@mimi
Ivana, Marla and Melania's third cousin Bashra
Turns out he is Indian
but good with words and cheap
Here is the interview

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Submitted by Wally on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:09pm
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@QMS

No words.

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:16pm
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@QMS

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:31pm
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@mimi
speech writers are otherwise inspired
Sleaze the Day!

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Submitted by mimi on Wed, 01/08/2020 - 2:55pm
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@QMS
for speaking out the truth ...
[video:https://youtu.be/r5nib0_kRYg]

Truely an exceptional speech writer. Two words repeated over and over again, it must be true.

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Submitted by Situational Lefty on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 1:22am
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The United States overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran in the 1950s and were fine with the way things were until now. What happened right now to change that?

Nothing, in my opinion.

The US and Iran and Russia seem to be working together to create a lot of drama.

They seem to be in cooperation.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 01/09/2020 - 10:02am
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@Situational Lefty

that started before Obama's tenure? Or the numerous nuclear scientists that have been killed over the decades to stop Iran from 'getting a nuclear weapon' even though they say they are not trying to make one? Or the many other things that have happened since Iran took their government back?

Russia went into Syria to stop our out of control terrorists from overthrowing Assad. Also do you think that Russia wanted us to over throw the Ukraine president who was friendly towards Russia and has seen tens of thousands of people killed? The withdrawals from one treaty to another in Iran and Russia?

Did you know that Russia and CHina just had war games with Iran before this mess all started? ANd there have been numerous other things we have done that Russia has not liked.

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Submitted by Situational Lefty on Fri, 01/10/2020 - 1:31am
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at this moment to be at political odds.

The Fat, Old, Bald Satan is in the White House and he's allied politically with Iran and Russia.

The United States has been consistent in it's policy towards Iran, opposing democracy in that country.

I think Russia is backing the current authoritarian regime in Iran which is antithetical to democracy in Iran.

I don't see enough differences between the imperialist countries in charge of the whole situation to cause a war.

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