This will not turn out well
It's complicated.
A few hours later, the president seemingly called for the Iraqi people to overthrow the Iranians, writing in a separate tweet, “To those many millions of people in Iraq who want freedom and who don’t want to be dominated and controlled by Iran, this is your time!”
We simply aren't appreciated.
We've learned the wrong lessons
A U.S. official later told Fox News that "Iraqi security forces did participate" in protecting the embassy — and Trump made clear he expects Iraq to secure U.S. personnel.
“[W]e expect Iraq to use its forces to protect the Embassy, and so notified!” Trump said in his tweet blaming Iran. He also spoke with Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi, stressing again the need to protect U.S. facilities in Iraq.
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Yet as news of the embassy clashes spread, the Iraqi National Security Council put out a statement instead condemning the U.S. airstrikes that preceded them.“The Iraqi Government condemns this act and considers it a violation of Iraq’s sovereignty,” the statement said. “This is a serious violation of the rules of engagement of the Coalition forces, including the US forces, in carrying out operations without the approval of the Iraqi Government.”
The statement went on to say that the U.S. “relied on their own conclusions and political priorities, not the priorities as assessed by the government and people of Iraq.”
Obviously the Iraqis don't realize that American lives matter and Iraqi lives don't.
Empire is a bipartisan affair.
To our Iraqi allies:
This is your moment to convince the American people the US-Iraq relationship is meaningful to you and worth protecting.
Protect our American personnel. You will not regret it.
(4/4)
— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) December 31, 2019
The storming of our embassy in Baghdad by protestors and Iran-backed militias is deeply disturbing.
The first priority is the safety of our personnel. Iraq has an obligation to protect them.
Once secure, we need to be clear-eyed about reducing tensions and the path forward. https://t.co/xKfNwdl0CQ
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) December 31, 2019
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the last two Republican presidents
Declared war on the Iraqi government.
Third time's the charm
Didn't Bill Clinton also declare de facto war on Iraq?
No-fly zones, bombing Iraqi bases, etc.
Continuing GHW Bush's lead
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
yeah
Bill Clinton bombed Iraq with regularity while maintaining an embargo responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children. His idea for replacing Saddam Hussein depended upon conversations with Iraqi exiles which led nowhere.
"A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy." -- Luigi Mangione
Title Correction
With Trump as "head of state" we will do it all wrong.
The song always remains the same
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
"there's the culprit!"
Sept. 11, 2001, Saudis and Egyptians pilot planes into buildings. The US, preferring to fight Afghanis, invade there, then, also disliking Saddam Hussein, proclaim "He did it!".
Same here. There's no logic to it which means the NY Times and others will write it up as if it were true.
Saudis and Pakistani's
Afghanistan did refuse to extradite Osama bin Laden, the alleged perpetrator. Other Muslim states supposedly hated the Afghans also. (shrug) They are seem to hate each other anyway.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Not quite true
The Taliban said they would let Bush have him if he would provide proof that Osama did the deed. Remember that the CIA never put him on their most wanted list.
Then there's the rumors that special forces had him trapped in Bora Bora, but they were called off the search.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Suspicious Mind Here
I have suspected that since bin Laden had a few months to figure out things between 9/11 and Bora Bora, I suspect that he made sure to get to that safe place in Pakistan. He was the son of friends and business partners of the Bush family that his life and the continued cooperation of the House of Saud that bin Laden not be killed. We know that the history of al Qaeda stretches back to the Muslim Brotherhood and the Mujahadeen fighting the Soviets in the 80s. The Safari Club was a cooperative designed to use radical Sunnis to help the West secure oil while the Saudis sought to make all of Islam Sunni.
The other thing is that there were reports from the start that Osama needed to get dialysis on a regular basis, which leads to the possibility that he was never in Bora Bora. It wouldn't be the first time that our national security shits lied to us.
Therefore, it's quite possible that bin Laden wasn't involved at all and that he was dead from kidney failure long before the SEALs dropped into his hideout.
Or not.
Good points
I am bad with names, but I remember the woman leader who said that OBL died in 2001 from kidney failure. But if he did need dialysis then there was no way he was hanging out in the caves of Pakistan and having it done there. Remember all those videos that we were shown just as the government needed a distraction from something along with the color code rising to orange and they would show a new OBL video with someone new each time? Yeah... and that was before Obama made it legal for the gov to lie to us.
I have an article somewhere of Bush, Cheney and Bandar 'Bush' bin Laden laughing on the Truman balcony. I think Bandar was from the BL family? Maybe the house of Saud?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Never let the truth...
Get in the way of a good story.
Here’s an idea:
Close the embassy and get the f**k out of the country.
It's stunning what a low caliber of people
attain high office in the United States. It's actually breathtaking.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
look to your city & county government
That's where they come from. Crawl up from I should say.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Disagreement here
Respectfully. Local folks getting into politics are charged with positive motives.
So are many young cops. 'Making a difference' 'we can do better' type stuff.
Problem seems to be the lifers. Get jaded and bought.
Still, some short termer's make a temporary difference.
Struggling with state-wide politics here.
Ain't pretty, but change is coming.
May as well influence it.
question everything
My hometown Mayor is a Trump wannabee,
, and a dirty ex-cop.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
A couple of years ago, a deputy blew the whistle
on some crooked evidence handling, and he announced he was going to run against the sheriff.
Within days, he was arrested, charged with multiple felonies, given an enormously high bond.
Two years later, he announced he was running for sheriff, despite those charges hanging over his head.
This morning, the special prosecutor recommended that all charges against him be dismissed for want of evidence. I sent his defense attorney an email to congratulate him.
In my life, local politics is the spring board for bigger and better political graft and corruption down the road.
Young people do not participate in it at all.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
getting kids involved
with local politics is not within the states' or localities education plan.
Wish it were so
Good luck
question everything
Same here in Cook County
Sometimes called Crook County
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
That's a fact.
They rarely come from nowhere.
Watch who you vote for and follow them.
They will betray themselves with their ambition. I've seen it happen many times and have been somewhat instrumental in their downfall.
Power breeds corruption.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
wow...who the #$^& wrote this??? AP
Associated Press...
that's not an op-ed. That's a news story. "Excuse me while I just repeat what I was told without questioning it."
Such logic
"Iran-supported" means "Iran ordered them to attack". Should have flunked Logic. Do newsmen have to study logic? Or only professions that use mathematics?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Trump sending 4000 troops to Kuwait?
Thread
There are already 14,000 plus in Saudi Arabia after Iran got blamed for the ship explosions and if more are going I don't like the way it's looking. But maybe if he does start a war with Iran his supporters will not vote for him again. They are running out of patience for him to fulfill his promises to bring them home.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Is that what we hope for now?
I know you didn't mean that but the thought could be easily implied.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Yeah it does seem like that
I don't want him reelected, but I also don't want war with Iran. Neither are something I can do anything about, but if he is dumb to start it then I'm hoping his supporters ditch him.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
His supporters
are much narrower than you or I.
His is a following of die hards. They will support regardless of our worse intentions.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
lol.. this sums up our adventure in Iraq
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Nancy tells Trump "no war on Iran!"
Oh who am I kidding? Of course she would have no problem if he does it.
#retirealreadynancy
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Caitlin Johnstone tweets
I want to know exactly WHY in the world are we in Iraq in the first place? It is way past time to get the F... out of there and every other country where we are bombing.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Iraq was planning to go off the petrodollar
and suddenly, we found yellowcake this, blah blah that…
We are given reasons for invading, just not the truth.
And Happy New Year, my friend.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Oh well
We've seen this before. Next comes the babies getting dumped out of incubators, the media talking seriously about the grave situation, with Yellowcake and nerve gas, clouds that look like mushrooms, broken Dixie Chicks cd's and bipartisanship out the kazoo. The media reports on crazy old commie socialist ultra leftists Bernie Sanders opposition and Pete Bootyjudge rallies the true American democrats to stand behind the president. Bibi stands with the US as a stalwart ally, and sends in an unauthorized first strike dragging us all to hell. Somewhere the ghost of John McCain is smiling.
Dixie Chickes
I love this video telling those that criticized them to shove it.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
mad as hell
still waiting
cheers snoop
question everything
Cheers back atcha
I thought of this when I read your comment in the OT..
Happy New Years
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Ro Khana speaks out against the increase troops
From what I have read the NDAA was not done the way it has been done in the past. It was snuck through without much discussion from the full body of both houses. Damn the Resistance has been working hard lately huh? Yeah Nancy this just further proves that the impeachment is just a farce. #retirealreadynancy
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.