U.S. foreign policy reaches a new level of hypocrisy
The media and political establishment have been waiting far too long for this moment to arrive.
The U.S. will finally stand on the moral high ground and denounce Assad.
With bipartisan and bicameral agreement, Congress added to it the Caesar Syria Civilian Protection Act of 2019, which authorizes sanctions on top Syrian government officials, military leaders and anyone else responsible for more than eight years of Assad’s mass atrocities, war crimes against innocent civilians and crimes against humanity.The bill also would extend sanctions to several major sectors of Syria’s state-driven economy and to any government or private entity that aids Syria’s military or contributes to the reconstruction of Syria — until there’s accountability and justice for Assad’s victims.
Don't get me wrong. Assad is a brutal dictator, and he did commit war crimes. That almost always happens in a civil war, so denying it would be naive.
That being said, it still looks like the pot calling the kettle black.
The coalition's Al-Jazeera Storm operation resulted in a high number of civilian casualties, including in a series of attacks on January 3 in Sha'fah, south of Hajin, that killed 16 civilians including 12 children, the UN report said.
"Launching indiscriminate attacks that result in death or injury to civilians amounts to a war crime in cases in which such attacks are conducted recklessly," it said.
That was from just a few months ago. Something tells me that Congress won't wait until there’s accountability and justice for our victims.
Speaking of Congress, they were recently outraged - outraged I say - by war crimes from Turkish forces.
A bipartisan group of lawmakers is demanding answers about Turkey’s role in the reported use of munitions loaded with white phosphorus—a chemical that can maim and kill when it comes in contact with human flesh—against civilians in northeastern Syria.Four U.S. senators are pressing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to address reports that Turkish-backed forces have used white phosphorus-loaded munitions in the Turkish offensive into northeastern Syria. The allegations were first reported by Foreign Policy and substantiated by multiple other outlets.
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The use of white phosphorus in military applications is not banned, but its use as an incendiary weapon in civilian areas is prohibited by international law.
White phosphorus on civilians! What kind of monsters would do such a thing?
The U.S.-led coalition in Iraq and Syria appears to have used white phosphorus-loaded munitions on at least two occasions in densely populated areas of Mosul and in the Islamic State’s de facto capital of Raqqa, according to videos posted online and human rights groups.
The often-controversial munitions are common in western militaries and are used primarily to create smoke screens, though they can also be dropped as an incendiary weapon.
When Turkey used white phosphorus on civilians it was a war crime.
When we used white phosphorus on civilians it was "often-controversial munitions" that are "common in western militaries".
And note that these events were entirely separate from the war crimes we committed in the recent U.N. report.
Speaking of Turkey, Congress is about to smack them down and good.
Turkey could shut down its Incirlik airbase that hosts US nuclear warheads in response to threats of US sanctions, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned."If it is necessary for us to take such a step, of course, we have the authority... We will close down Incirlik if necessary," Erdogan said on A Haber TV on Sunday.
We certainly showed them...by forcing them to kick us out of the country.
Interestingly, another "ally", the UAE, is cheering us on.
Lastly, let's not forget Iraq, where this headline should bring back fond memories for those McResistance Democrats.
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I'm waiting for the day we are held to account for
our decades of war crimes. The hypocrisy of calling for others to be when it's the NATO allies that are the most guilty.
How many countries have we invaded on false pretenses and then committed atrocities that we've never had to answer for? Bombing the hell out of Dresden, Japan, North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya and Syria and so many others, but then getting people to believe that we are the greatest force for good in the world.
White phosphorus you say? How about depleted uranium that we used in Fallujah and elsewhere in Iraq, Libya and Syria.
Hey...we just bombed another hospital in Afghanistan. Hurray. Why? Because we had to get the Taliban of course. But the only time we hear about hospital bombings is when Russia bombs the 20th hospital in Syria for the 3rd, 4th or 10th time. Pretty cool that hospital keeps getting up each time we bomb it don't you think?
But watch out. Iran is planning on doing something mischievous to our troops soon. This way Bibi will be able to get his war against Iran that rumors are he is planning on. Very soon. Good thing Trump sent the troops into Saudi Arabia so that they can respond quickly. Gag me!
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
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Assad doean't hold a candle to US brutality.
Why get into Assad being a 'brutal dictator'? How do you know this? Is not every rat bastard leader the US supports not a 'brutal dictator' of worse proportions then Assad? Or is not every really nasty brutal dictator we support globally not considered a 'democratic' leader?
This obscene, illegal war seems to me to be backed up by blatantly cooked up propaganda. Kinda like the brutal insane war against Libya. Civil war my ass. Read today about a wikileak's release that seems to me to shed light on the cooked up narrative that this insanity is based on. So crazy to try to make a cohesive narrative out of any of the US's unleashed attack dogs across the world.
Deluge Of New Leaks Further Shreds The Establishment Syria Narrative
"The new publications by WikiLeaks add new detail to this still-unfolding scandal, providing more evidence to further invalidate attempts by establishment Syria narrative managers to spin it all as an empty conspiracy theory. The OPCW has no business hiding any information from the public which casts doubt on the official narrative about an incident"
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/deluge-of-new-leaks-further-shreds-th...
Well said
I'd like to know just what Assad did that got him his reputation as a brutal dictator? It wasn't his gassing his own citizens. Oh no we did that as a pretense to overthrow him. We can thank Obama and Hillary and Israel and et all for this current shit show. But of course we had planned on overthrowing him for decades. Obama just got to be the one who notched his belt with completing the plan.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
What did Assad do?
As James Potter said when asked why he hates Severus Snape: "It's more the fact that he exists if you know what I mean."
He tortured thousands of people to death
(see my comment below)
Although a simple Google search for "Assad torture" is what I would suggest.
So?
Other dictators, many of them Friends of America, tortured thousands of people to death. I suggest a simple Google search of "Pinochet torture" or "King Abdullah torture". What makes Assad any worse than the dozens of murderous despots the US has empowered and coddled and funded?
Answer
Nothing. Nothing at all.
Which was the point of my essay.
I was only responding to people who claim that Assad isn't a war criminal.
It doesn't change the fact that 60% of Syrian refugees fled to Assad-controlled territory and away from our "moderate rebels". Proving that no matter how bad Assad is, the people we supported are worse.
This might have happened as the two reports state
First off both sources have been captured by the intelligence agencies. HRW has been known to cook the details. No I don't have links to support this. Just something I have read more than once. But it's interesting how that many photos were taken that backs up the reports that Assad is a butcher. SO did this happen? I don't know, but I am leery because of all the propaganda that we are subjected to non stop. But as you say we have done much worse. As have our Saudi allies and the dictators that we have propped up after one of our 50 plus coups.
But the point of your essay is the pot calling the kettle black. I agree. And shake my head of the absurdity.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
I just did a quick search
https://thegrayzone.com/2018/09/15/presenting-the-syria-deception-al-qae...
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Well isn't that surprising?
Meanwhile ignoring the head chopper in SA and the many other countries where we have installed dictators. Yep, it's the effing hypocrisy that makes me dubious on their many claims. Boy I do hate being this cynical. You?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Where did HRW get the 'information'
for their report on torture by the Assad government?
They got it from
local armed opposition groupsjihadis in Raqqa when the town was overrun and taken over.Here's what HRW advised at the time:
So who were these Human Rights Watch researchers? If you check the HRW reports they were individuals on the ground. All of the HRW "evidence" came from jihadis.
As you know, this town was eventually bombed into the dark ages by US forces. Maybe HRW should investigate why the US bombed the shit out of the "local armed opposition groups"?
Here's Raqqa Dec 10, 2019
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmRzsSKdOC0]
Here's Aleppo Sep 28, 2016
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf6Z-vsSsRQ]
Here's Latakia Oct 1, 2015
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rNc82fgvz4]
What is this insane war about.
https://foia.state.gov/search/results.aspx?searchText=C05794498&beginDat...
Comprehensive article by the late Robert Perry.
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Is there any sane argument
as to why we should have military bases there to begin with?
If some army set up camp in your back yard
expect the neighbors to react
even if you don't
reframe
"Assad is a brutal dictator"????????
Where did you get that from?
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkWgm9QZPU]
Let's not kid urselves
there is vast evidence
And there are victims that survived.
Let's not be foolish. Much of what is said about Assad is true.
What those facts don't do:
1) make this war any less illegal
2) change our war crimes
3) make the guys we've been backing any less head-chopping terrorists
You're using HRW and CNN as sources for this?????
A fucking globalist propaganda machine and a fucking globalist mouthpiece to catapult the bullshit!
I wrote dozens of posts in DKos debunking HRW in my 10 years at DKos. I hoped to not have to do that here. It's deja vu all over again. Sorry, I'm pissed off....
I'm not going to play that game
On TOP I was denounced for sometimes using Fox, RT, and al-Jazeera as sources.
Here it seems HRW and CNN (plus, I assume MSNBC, CBS, HuffPo, etc.) are verbotten.
I don't care, and you aren't going to make me care.
Assad is a war criminal. It's true.
What is also true is that we are war criminals as well, and we are making things much worse.
HRW watch is a propaganda machine
To use it is a disservice to everyone on this site. I'll take Vanessa Beeley factual reporting over yours any day. She's been in Syria and has spoken to the people in person.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp9V429llsY]
You won't even consider that you have been lied to?
Or won't read the articles that have debunked the official story? This seems like what you accused the members of DK of doing. They won't read any websites that debunk what they think either. Lots of them stated that used to read consortium news, but they won't now because it didn't fall down the Russia Gate rabbit hole. And of course they think RT and Fox News are state TV and won't listen to a thing they say. Some sites occasionally tell us the truth. Just look at WaPoo and it's Afghanistan report. This seems like something unlikely, but there it is.
This article that debunks the Syrian torture story seems like a good place to start just to see if you have been hoodwinked. I'm not saying that Assad is a saint or anything, but that I question the reporting.
Not in my book, but I do read them with a mind open to the possibility that they are lying.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
I always suspect that I'm being lied to
However, you are referring to consortiumnews to "debunk" what dozens of eyewitnesses have testified to, and which there is documented evidence, of a regime known to slaughter its own people going all the way back to the early 80's.
So, simply, no. This is not a hill you should choose to die on.
You are making a mistake.
It's your right to make that mistake, but I'm giving you good advice not to do it.
Rick Sterling is the person who did the report on HRW
and I respect his reporting. Consortium News is just the messenger. Do you think the MIC controlled MSM would ever allow people like him to publish their reports? In order to get at the truth we have to depend on these sources. If one followed CNN, NYT and WaPo your brain would turn to mush.
Here's Rick Sterling at MintPress News (some very interesting articles):
https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/rick-sterling/
You can also find his reports on Syria here:
https://www.syriasolidaritymovement.org/resources/important-articles/
World leaders in Saudi Arabia to pay tribute to brutal dictator
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30962740
Getting the West to destroy all the Arab republics and preserve all the absolute monarchies: everything’s going according to plan.
Sorry Dude,
but Bullshit.
Your country is being ripped apart by foreign backed headchoppers trying to overthrow it you do what you Have to to survive, whatEver the cost.
Point a gun at me and pull the trigger and miss? Or even wound me?
I’ll do anything I Have to to survive.
Including ripping Your throat out, if I can. Just not debatable to me.
No ‘whataboutism’, no hypocrisy, no BullShit.
A little vignette from my ‘yute’: watching the ‘news’ with my Pops backin the day when the airline hijackings were a ‘thing’. My Da looks at me and says ‘take my means to support my family, take my home, take my Family away from me and I’ll be the worst terrorist you never want to meet.’
That one statement of his has, and will remain, the single most important lesson for me in this life.
Brutal? No doubt.
But true? Absomotherfuckinglutely!
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
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If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
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Who remembers Fallujah,
and all of the Willie Pete we dumped on those poor folks? The pictures were atrocious and graphic, which is why the MSM never printed them.
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I do
Fallujah: The Hidden Massacre
2005, Military and War - 27 min
[video:https://www.nsfwyoutube.com/watch?time_continue=84&v=yalyCk4kK-8&feature...