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I can't quit thinking about Julian's torture for revealing our war crimes. The only thing we might do is write him. They are asking us to flood him with letters.
https://writejulian.com/

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@Lookout for Tuesday, in case I need to do some last minute tasks in preparation for my little trip to Guatemala.
I think that would be the perfect day to write Julian.
Thanks for the vid, Snoop.

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@on the cusp

Will you visit lake Atitlan or Antigua? They are a couple of the coolest places I've visited.

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@Lookout Plus Chichicastenanga and the ruins at Iximche.
I love the country, have visited there twice, and it is a 3 hour flight from Houston. I love the Barceló Hotel in Guatemala City, will have tour guides and transportation the entire time.
Unfortunately, both day long excursions begin at 7 a.m., but I can sleep in on Day 3 before checkout.
My goal is to purchase some Che Guevara tee shirts in Antigua.
I have had my hands on them, didn't buy. What was I thinking? Several friends anxiously await!
I just knew if I stayed here, I would work, and cook. I need some time away from those obligations.
I will be with a tour company the entire time, and with a small group, so that is as safe as I could arrange.

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@on the cusp

Turn them inside out? Or would that belie your innocence?

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@Pluto's Republic The customs guys at Houston Intercontinental Airport usually seem bored. Hope this doesn't spring them to life!

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Doctors Petition UK Home Secretary Over Julian Assange

Open Letter to UK Home Secretary Priti Patel
and Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott

We write this open letter, as medical doctors, to express our serious concerns about the physical and mental health of Julian Assange. Our professional concerns follow publication recently of the harrowing eyewitness accounts of Craig Murray and John Pilger of the case management hearing on Monday 21 October 2019 at Westminster Magistrates Court. The hearing related to the upcoming February 2020 hearing of the request by the US government for Mr Assange’s extradition to the US in relation to his work as a publisher of information, including information about alleged crimes of the US government.

Our concerns were further heightened by the publication on 1 November 2019 of a further report of Nils Melzer, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, in which he stated: ‘Unless the UK urgently changes course and alleviates his inhumane situation, Mr Assange’s continued exposure to arbitrariness and abuse may soon end up costing his life.’

Having entered the Ecuadorian Embassy in London on 19 June 2012, Mr Assange sought and was granted political asylum by the Ecuadorian government. On 11 April 2019, he was removed from the Embassy and arrested by the Metropolitan Police. He was subsequently detained in Belmarsh maximum security prison, in what Mr Melzer described as ‘oppressive conditions of isolation and surveillance.’

During the seven years spent in the Embassy in confined living conditions, Mr Assange was visited and examined by a number of experts each of whom expressed alarm at the state of his health and requested that he be allowed access to a hospital. No such access was permitted. Mr Assange was unable to exercise his right to free and necessary expert medical assessment and treatment throughout the seven-year period.
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Medical doctors have a professional duty to report suspected torture of which they become aware, wherever it may be occurring. That professional duty is absolute and must be carried out regardless of risk to reporting doctors. We wish to put on record, as medical doctors, our collective serious concerns and to draw the attention of the public and the world to this grave situation.

The World Health Organisation Constitution of 1946 envisages ‘the highest attainable standard of health as a fundamental right of every human being.’20 We are indebted to those who have sought to uphold this right in the case of Mr Assange.

From a medical point of view, on the evidence currently available, we have serious concerns about Mr Assange’s fitness to stand trial in February 2020. Most importantly, it is our opinion that Mr Assange requires urgent expert medical assessment of both his physical and psychological state of health. Any medical treatment indicated should be administered in a properly equipped and expertly staffed university teaching hospital (tertiary care). Were such urgent assessment and treatment not to take place, we have real concerns, on the evidence currently available, that Mr Assange could die in prison. The medical situation is thereby urgent. There is no time to lose.
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Mr Melzer’s report was published on 31 May 2019:

‘It was obvious that Mr Assange’s health has been seriously affected by the extremely hostile and arbitrary environment he has been exposed to for many years,’ the expert said. ‘Most importantly, in addition to physical ailments, Mr Assange showed all symptoms typical for prolonged exposure to psychological torture, including extreme stress, chronic anxiety and intense psychological trauma.

‘The evidence is overwhelming and clear,’ the expert said. ‘Mr Assange has been deliberately exposed, for a period of several years, to progressively severe forms of cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, the cumulative effects of which can only be described as psychological torture.

‘In 20 years of work with victims of war, violence and political persecution I have never seen a group of democratic States ganging up to deliberately isolate, demonise and abuse a single individual for such a long time and with so little regard for human dignity and the rule of law,’ Mr Melzer said. ‘The collective persecution of Julian Assange must end here and now!’-----
‘One of Mr Assange’s colleagues commented that there had been many difficulties in finding medical practitioners who were willing to examine Mr Assange in the Embassy. The reasons given were uncertainty over whether medical insurance would cover the Embassy (a foreign jurisdiction); whether the association with Mr Assange could harm their livelihood or draw unwanted attention to them and their families; and discomfort regarding exposing this association when entering the Embassy. One medical practitioner expressed concern to one of the interviewees after the police taking notes of his name and the fact that he was visiting Mr Assange. One medical practitioner wrote that he agreed to produce a medical report only on condition that his name not be made available to the wider public, fearing repercussions.

It is likely that the aforementioned climate of fear and intimidation severely compromised the medical care available to Mr Assange, even within the Embassy, and given all the other concerns surrounding the extraordinary treatment of Mr Assange it is difficult to conclude other than that the creation of that climate of fear and intimidation was deliberate. If it was deliberate, we as medical doctors condemn such behaviour as reckless, dangerous and cruel. That all this has been played out in the heart of London for many years is a source of great sadness and shame to many of us.

Read the article to see why he needs treatment and how long he has been suffering without it. If Julian dies in prison then every damn person connected with keeping him there should be charged with depraved indifference homicide if not something more severe. And I never want to hear any government claim that another country is committing human rights abuses because they will be hypocrites. They already are I know, but still.

Imagine having severe tooth pain for 4 1/2 years as well as suffering from the other health issues that he needs treatment for.

I am appalled and ashamed of the British and American Government! The way Julian Assange has been treated is absolutely unjust and illegal.

Far too many people are okay with what is happening to Julian because they have believed all of the smears and lies told about him which is exactly why they were. Tying him to Russia interference was intentionally done for the purpose of people giving their consent to what he is going through. Damn and F them all!

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@snoopydawg

Far too many people are okay with what is happening to Julian because they have believed all of the smears and lies told about him which is exactly why they were.

Even if someone believed that everything they said about Julian was true, they'd have to be soulless ghouls to think what is being done to him is okay. Torture is immoral and anathema to any society that claims to be civilized, period.

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@ppnortney

deserves what is happening to him. I read comments like this quite frequently on many sites and on Twitter. The media constantly talks about Trump's war on the press, but I haven't seen one person from the main stream media say anything about what's happening to Julian. One site in particular is very guilty of that.

Torture is immoral and anathema to any society that claims to be civilized, period.

This ship has sailed long ago from our shores if it was ever parked here.

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@snoopydawg

I see the same thing. It really is tragic how easily led so many people are, trusting in the moral compass of people who have none, probably while patting themselves on the back in the belief that they think for themselves.

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i was just about post the wsws version of the letter signed by 60 docs, and thought i'd check here first. i can't find the referenced video, but also from wsws: ‘Assange’s lawyer Jennifer Robinson addresses public meetings in Australia’, Patrick O’Connor, 25 November 2019, wsws.org

in part:

"In her speech, Robinson detailed the extraordinary, politically motivated vendetta being waged by the US state against Assange. She then addressed questions issued by the events' chairs, former Australian Broadcasting Corporation journalists Quentin Dempster in Sydney and Barry Cassidy in Melbourne.
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Robinson began her address by explaining that she had last met with Assange on November 12, before flying to Sydney. The barrister detailed the punitive and degrading treatment she is forced to endure in order to have a discussion with her imprisoned client.

“I have to go into a room [at London’s Belmarsh prison], lock away my things, put away my phone and my laptop,” Robinson told the Melbourne meeting on October 19.

“I’m only allowed to take in papers. I go into a holding area where we have to take our fingerprints. They take our keys. We then go in, walk across a courtyard into the entrance way of the prison, more finger prints, body scanning, going through doors where you have to wait for the beep to go. You walk in, you go into a sealed area before you can enter the prison. Once I’m inside I have to go through a complete body scan. Prison guards rifle through my papers to make sure there’s no contraband.

“I then have to go through another gateway, I cross another cold courtyard on the inside of the prison gates, where they take my fingerprints again. Then I actually get to an area where there’s a cafe, and of course because of austerity measures it’s manned by volunteers who work for Good Samaritans, volunteering their time to serve us things from the cafe, where I might get him [Assange] a cup of coffee and a Kit-Kat. It takes me 45 minutes from the entrance of the prison to another security desk, where I have to allow the prison guards to search my papers again. I pass people accused of violent crimes, some of them terrorism, many of them standing up against the glass, watching me as I walk past, and I come into a consultation room, and there sits Julian Assange.”

Robinson added: “Having worked on this case since 2010 I have been constantly resisting the normalisation of his treatment.”

She described how Assange was currently being detained in solitary isolation—itself a form of torture—for 20-21 hours a day, adding that she did not expect the extradition legal fight to be resolved within the next 2-3 years, and that she feared for his health and wellbeing."
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“The events in Assange’s last court hearing on October 21 were being overtly controlled by the CIA, the prosecution was getting its instructions. Then there was the move to locate the full extradition hearing next February in an annex of Belmarsh prison where there are only a few seats. This is to shut out the public from what is going on. It’s an appalling attack on democracy.”

fuck trump, fuck priti pattel, fuck scott morrison...you murderers!

meanwhile: 'Advancing Propaganda For Evil Agendas Is The Same As Perpetrating Them Yourself, cailin johstone, Nov. 21, 2019

"The Guardian has published an editorial titled “The Guardian view on extraditing Julian Assange: don’t do it”, subtitled “The US case against the WikiLeaks founder is an assault on press freedom and the public’s right to know”. The publication’s editorial board argues that since the Swedish investigation has once again been dropped, the time is now to oppose US extradition for the WikiLeaks founder.

“Sweden’s decision to drop an investigation into a rape allegation against Julian Assange has both illuminated the situation of the WikiLeaks founder and made it more pressing,” the editorial board writes.

Oh okay, now the issue is illuminated and pressing. Not two months ago, when Assange’s ridiculous bail sentence ended and he was still kept in prison explicitly and exclusively because of the US extradition request. Not six months ago, when the US government slammed Assange with 17 charges under the Espionage Act for publishing the Chelsea Manning leaks.
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"Nope, no, any of those times would have been far too early for The Guardian to begin opposing US extradition for Assange with any degree of lucidity. They had to wait until Assange was already locked up in Belmarsh Prison and limping into extradition hearings supervised by looming US government officials. They had to wait until years and years of virulent mass media smear campaigns had killed off public support for Assange so he could be extradited with little or no grassroots backlash. And they had to wait until they themselves had finished participating in those smear campaigns.
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This is after all the same Guardian which published the transparently ridiculous and completely invalidated report that Trump lackey Paul Manafort had met secretly with Assange at the embassy, not once but multiple times. Not one shred of evidence has ever been produced to substantiate this claim despite the embassy being one of the most heavily surveilled buildings on the planet at the time, and the Robert Mueller investigation, whose expansive scope would obviously have included such meetings, reported absolutely nothing to corroborate it. It was a bogus story which all accused parties have forcefully denied.", and a hella lot more.

kinda makes you wonder if the fact that Wikileaks is suing the guardian for the manafort lies has anything to do with this bullshit, doesn't it?

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@snoopydawg
Try him or get off the pot!

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@The Voice In the Wilderness

Committing journalism? Or for exposing war crimes? Are you seriously advocating that it's okay to charge Assange under the espionage act for what he has done?

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I'm saying regardless of guilt or innocence, a person has a right to a speedy trial, not indefinite detention. How long has Assange been imprisoned? Not counting his voluntary detention in a friendly consulate?

I don't know if the charges are true or false, although I'm pretty skeptical. But they should release him or send him to the USA for trial, not hold him forever.

And he has a right to be tried in a public court, not a star chamber, before an unbiased jury, with competent counsel of his choosing.

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Not counting his voluntary detention in a friendly consulate?

Assange sought asylum there because he had no guarantee that Sweden wouldn't extradite him here. This was legal for him to do. The way you wrote it sounds just like everyone else who said that he was free to leave any time no matter the cost to his freedom. Years ago Sweden dropped any charges against him because he had committed no crimes and at least one of the women recanted her story. But Britain demanded that she keep the charges on him. Why? This info is in Wendy's link. And way back at the beginning of this sh*t show after Assange voluntarily went into the police department he was told that he was free to leave the country. Think they would have allowed that if the charges were serious?

You might want to read the articles Wendy and I posted here to get up to date on what has happened to him. Or read any of the essays posted here by way of the search option.

He also did not skip out on his bail which is what Britain's holding him in prison for. Again asylum seeking was legal for him to do because of his fear of being extradited here which looks pretty smart right now since we are actually trying to extradite him.

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And he will have a chance to clear his name. Again, he shouldn't be detained without trial for an unreasonable period. I guess in the UK you can't demand a writ of habeas corpus.
So, the USA is not the worse country in the world after all.
He tried to evade a trial. So would I. But I agree that what Britain is doing is wrong.
You feel he should be unconditionally released now. And maybe you are right. That's what courts of law are supposed to decide. You are sounding to me like, because he is popular, he shouldn't be subject to legal process. i.e. Some animals are more equal than others.
If it becomes judiciously apparent that he has been imprisoned without cause, well that's what lawsuits are for.
You say the system stinks. So do I. And I'm sure onthecusp would agree. But it's still better than mobocracy or "might makes right" or "divine right of kings" for that matter.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness

That's what courts of law are supposed to decide

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Assange is not being treated fairly by the U.K. court system. Again you should read Wendy's recent essays on this so you can see what is happening there. Or read the UN report. The process is being rigged by people in this country so it's kinda hard for him to even get out solitary confinement for 'skipping bail' even though he legally sought asylum. The judge in charge of his case has so many conflicts of interest she should have recused herself, but because this is just a show trial she won't.

You are sounding to me like, because he is popular, he shouldn't be subject to legal process. i.e. Some animals are more equal than others

This is insulting.

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I said that only because I don't think you mean what it sounds like!

Assange is not being treated fairly by the U.K. court system.

That's what I've been trying to say through this whole thread! Either release him or extradite him. Don't keep him locked up without trial!

We are on the same side. But I want the courts to follow the rules. not because I feel the rules are fair or the system is unbiased, but because it's the only system we have and that's better than anarchy. YMMV.

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popular: on edit:

he's had so many guns to his head over the years in the form of lies, smears, obfuscations, and propaganda, including by the fearless journalists at the intercept, guardian, daily beast, and others. few take the time to learn why and how to counter them, and realize what his captivity and slow-mo death means in terms of journalism, the first amendment, and the rule of law.

ii) his detention and extradition hearings are NOT about what he did, they are about his journalism and publishing 'inconvenient truths' about war, and eventually exposing the CIA's abilities to control...everything they require.

iii) his arbitrary detention for so many years now is simply punitive and has nothing to do with the rue of law in any of the nations involved, nor what 'they say he did', including and perhaps especially the 17 counts of espionage they're charging him with.

but aha! here is the defend wikileaks julian assange tab at their website; please consider reading it, as i hoped you would read the david stockman piece lot lizard had recommended. i'd even clipped some passages on that thread to entice you to read a (gasp) republican who'd worked for ronald reagan. srsly, that part of III was excellent in its depth, breath, and historical narrative.

headings:

In the Ecuadorian embassy in London

Restrictions and Isolation

Arbitrary Detention: The United Nations ruling

Political Asylum

Swedish allegations

Major Writings
(and i think he's an excellent writer)

but this might be a good way to educate yourself, rather than trying to discover the many years of diaries and essays that snoopy, i, and others have brought.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness All of it bad.
You are not allowed to put on a defense in an espionage act trial, iirc. It can result in a death penalty.
He does not have free access to his lawyers.
He is in solitary confinement.
His medical treatment is being withheld.
He served his bail jumping sentence and is still in jail.
His hearings are not public.
Your argument that everyone should be treated the same is the very argument being made that Julian's treatment is torture without precedent.
Speedy trials should be available to all, but it is always the call of defendants and their legal counsel to determine if that is wise. 99% of the time, it is better to let time pass to prepare a defense.

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@on the cusp
boils me blood

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Knowing that you are a practicing attorney.

As I told snoopydawg, we are on the same side.

Also, I'm aware that the UK does not offer as many rights as the US Bill of rights, which is why we have a Bill of rights and part of the reason that we are an independent country and not a Dominion offering (lip service) fealty to the English Queen.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness No other country in the world shifts the burden of proof of guilt to the government.
He is unable to speak coherently. That is not just out of the damn blue.

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@on the cusp
The government can make a prima facie case, with lying witnesses. Or just cite "classified sources"?

He must refute the charges or have his lawyer argue that the government has not proved his case. Stalemate is killing him. It's effectively a life sentence voluntarily made.
He has to fight back.

There is a time to fight and a time to run. he has been captued so the time to run is over. He seems to be stalling, hoping that the US/UK governments will get tired and quit.
That's not going to happen. It's time to fight. No matter how hopeless.

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as john steppling would say... how in your ninth circle of hell could any sane person begin to untangle this sort of hasbara nonsense?

don't you understand the verdict is already in, the show trial will be on feb.20, likely to last for a week the Magistrates say, and will be held in that tiny prison's court next to belmarsh gitmo that allows almost no one to watch, certainly not record.

of course the lying witness will be largely classified, and the US DoJ has already offered immunity to a few more (that we know about) to testify, such as Dumbsheit Borg who wrote a whole book on how he hates assange...and why. similarly they've offered Joshua Schulte (who'd allegedy leaked the CIA vaults to wikileaks) a deal for immunity.

gina 'torture' haspel will ccertainly appear, even if by skype.

holy mother of zeus!

"It's effectively a life sentence voluntarily made."

"He seems to be stalling, hoping that the US/UK governments will get tired and quit."

did you notice that he has no way to prepare his case? everything he owned in that sphere was ripped off when lenin moreno permitted the Asshole Police carried him out of the ecudorian embassy and was turned over to the US DoJ! did you read what ONE of his attorneys (jen robinson) said above went thru a week ago trying to talk with him in belmarsh? added to which he's constantly subjected to strip searched every time he crosses one threshhold or another.

do you not get that he's barely compus mentis by now as he's so physically and cognitively ill after being tortured for so long?

i almost feel embarrassed for being willing to try to respond to such dreck, myself. it seems you may just love to argue and stir pots of merde.

yep, he should have flown earlier: somebody shouldda smuggled in a jet-pack for the darlin' man. or taken the greek Unity4J supporter's advice to have 300 peeps dress like him, don assange masks, and smuggle out of (then) the ecuadorian embassy, put him in a car and take him to the airport.... sheeesh. what could possibly have gone wrong?

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@wendy davis

that there is such a thing as a "free country" with "individual rights" anywhere on this benighted and probably doomed globe.

Unfortunately for him, so was Julian Assange - only to find himself betrayed by every Western power he dealt with. And the cruelest - ongoing - betrayals of all have come from his own country, Australia.

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to think about the competition for nations that have betrayed him, from the UK, UK, lenin moreno's ecuador, sweden...and austrailia. i can't speak to what julian had imagined as per his native nation protecting him as a citizen, but i do remember writing about scott morrison laughing at his plight and the petitions on julian' behalf.

but of course the US military has bases in australia, two in 2012 and expanding, as well as joint military understanding with the Pentagon, yada, yada. because: China.
nice little client state IOW.

but yes, all in all: voice is delusional, but it also may be by way of a game to him, who can say? as in: he/she apparently never read all the material i gave him at 'defend julian assange' at wikileaks. may i utter an Hurrrumph! ; )

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@wendy davis One sure way to prevent a defendant from fighting back, strenuously defending themselves against the all powerful State is to systematically torture them, render them unable to state their name, date of birth, address, and so on.

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@on the cusp

away all his electronic devices containing what he needs to defend himself, sending to the US DoJ (i mean gina haspel, CIA), prevent access to Good medical care for years, and yes:

"...is to systematically torture them, render them unable to state their name, date of birth, address, and so on."

did any of us not weep at the images of him being carried out of the ecuadorian embassy (betraying rafael correa, as well), then struggling to even hear him speak coherently? those images will live in mind forever, as they will for all but the most callous barbaric observers.

and a good UnThankgiving/Day of Mourning to all of us.

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enough, i've been spending waaaaayyy too much time searching my archives for strife deivery's longer comment from which snoopy had extracted her signature line. i'd thunk (likely in error) it was on one of my julian assange diaries, and although i've checked 15 pages, i haven't found it.

but you were on many of them. what the UK has in terms of anything matters not a whit in julian's case. lenin moreno (post rafael correa) sold out to the western Imperium for ten pieces of silver and a memo of military understanding with Amerikkka. similarly, sweden is a vassal state for the UK, as i understand it, and wanted to do amerika's bidding re: assange as well.

and with the torture queen gina haspel heading the CIA...all.bets.are.off. just picture her salivating over getting julian in a Supermax prison in this shithole nation.

and to snoopy: by the by, you and others did some deep diggin' bringing more sources and analyses.

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Everyone who is ok with this, whether government official, or individual, needs the same treatment Julian is receiving, just for a dose of their own medicine.
Anybody who thinks this if fair and just is a monster.

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...some will be crushed beyond all repair. They were the best of us because they knew the rare singularity of boundless courage and selflessness.
...some will enter the long silence of bitter resolve. Their solid steady commitment to that which is righteous for all mankind will no longer walk beside us.
...some will be pulled under a flood of knowing and drowned in cynicism. They shall not seek the truth because they have been short-leashed.
...some will quietly detach and melt away. They will be inspired by their intelligence, or by their fears, or by a serendipitous lack of interest.

The truly fortunate in this world will notice nothing at all. They live in a state of grace, untroubled by things that they cannot change and blessedly unaware of looming catastrophes. They are the meek and they shall inherit the earth, as foretold.

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Strife delivery hit it out of the park with his comment. I wish I had his entire comment because it was really excellent.

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diaries about julian's deepening plight, and iirc, it was after my begging folks not to spout off about what any of the US political class had to say. i did check about 5 pages of my essays, and checked all the relevant ones, but he wasn't there. sorry; there were too many about julian, and i'd hoped i could surprise you w/ his whole quote.

but fuck the Great Orange One! his Dept. of Injustice could stop this NOW, save for the CIA pressure. julian had long said that he believed the 17 charges of espionage had come close on the heels of the publication of the CIA vaults, not that many have paid attention to what they truly meant in terms of what the CIA can accomplish.

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when you'd added strife delivery's sig(nature?) line? i live in a time warp...can't even remember sequential order.

i'd alo bingled for his screen name at c99%, as usually an author's name will pop up, but found nothing but your sig line quote. perhaps he'd never authored?

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I spent lots of time looking for it too, but alas no luck.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

wendy davis's picture

@snoopydawg

i sure hoped you might have, then i could check the dates on my assange exposé post. say, if you'd said: 'over a year ago' or some such. thanks for responding, but unsolved puzzles bug me.

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@Pluto's Republic

and eloquent, amiga, if disheartening.

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