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For those of us who have long opposed the hold of the two major parties over our government, the Clinton attack is right on schedule. Every election, the establishment tells voters they have no alternative but to choose the lesser of two evils offered by this duopoly. A vote for a third-party candidate is portrayed as supporting the other party.

No one owes someone their vote. You want it? Earn it, but don't just spout some hopey changy crap and think you're done. Actions are what I'm looking at.

#1

It's going to take people waking the f'ck up and see how they have been manipulated into supporting McCarthyism.

Clinton fuels new 'red scare' with political attacks against Gabbard

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." Journalist Edward Murrow said those words 65 years ago, responding to Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy and his accusations of Americans being "Russian stooges" and "fellow travelers." Murrow declared that, despite the best efforts of political opportunists, "We will not walk in fear, one of another."

Those words came to mind after former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton accused current Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard of being a "Russian asset" in the 2020 election. It seems there is a communist stooge behind every poll, as people such as Clinton make support for the establishment a loyalty test.

Long ago, I wrote about how the Russia investigation was spurring a new type of "red scare" as critics denounced Donald Trump, Republican members of Congress and commentators as Russian apologists or Kremlin assets. It was not enough that most of us agreed that Russian intervention in the 2016 election was worthy of investigation. It did not matter that special counsel Robert Mueller determined that no one in the Trump campaign knowingly worked with Russian agents.

It does not matter that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democratic leaders reportedly have said they do not want to impeach Trump on Russian conspiracy claims, a curious thing, given their years of claiming clear proof of such crimes. It also does not matter that the United States has a long history of intervening in foreign elections or that we have regularly hacked the emails of foreign foes as well as close allies such as German Chancellor Angela Merkel. To even utter such facts is to find oneself on the feared "fellow travelers" list.

....
These comments by Clinton seem right out of the infamous Republican National Convention speech by McCarthy in 1952, in which he painted a widening group of Americans as Russian assets. He declared, "Our job as Americans and as Republicans is to dislodge the traitors from every place where they have been sent to do their traitorous work." It is an irresistible temptation to portray opponents as Russian cutouts or conspirators, so perhaps it was only a matter of time before accusations of Russian conspiracy moved from Republican to Democratic rivals.

The Clinton aversion to Russia appears to be an acquired distaste. Her campaign spent a massive amount of money seeking dirt on Trump from foreign sources, including Russian intelligence assets, in 2016. The Clinton campaign denied any involvement in the creation of the Christopher Steele dossier that the Obama administration used to secure a secret surveillance warrant against Trump associates. The campaign hid its payments to the opposition research firm Fusion GPS as "legal fees" among the millions of dollars paid to its law firm.

Clinton lawyer Marc Elias vigorously denied to The New York Times that the campaign funded the dossier. Reporters proved that was false, with journalist Maggie Haberman noting, "Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year." Even when Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta was questioned by Congress, he denied any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS as Elias sat beside him.

The question is whether voters again will be duped, not by the Russians but by our own American politicians here at home. Much has changed since 1954, when attorney Joseph Welch exposed McCarthy with his famous inquiry, "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" One thing is abundantly clear in government today. There is no room for decency in our duopoly of power.

I left a lot out cuz of fair use so read this at the source. It's ridiculous how so many people who are mainly Hillary supporters jumped on the red scare wagon after growing up hearing about the original red scare. Boy I'm sure they have made their parents proud.

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:34pm

BINGO

The measure of a candidate, or really anyone, is how and where they show up.
Is Hillary Clinton in Flint or Standing Rock or Harlan County, KY or anywhere organizing and advocating? Fuck no! Is she seeking out attention when she or her family are selling something? You betcha!

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:46pm

Were I still on Twitter

I'd say that it isn't the first time an American politician accused serving military of being Russian assets.

It was disgusting then, and it's disgusting now.

#1

It's going to take people waking the f'ck up and see how they have been manipulated into supporting McCarthyism.

Clinton fuels new 'red scare' with political attacks against Gabbard

"We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." Journalist Edward Murrow said those words 65 years ago, responding to Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy and his accusations of Americans being "Russian stooges" and "fellow travelers." Murrow declared that, despite the best efforts of political opportunists, "We will not walk in fear, one of another."

Those words came to mind after former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton accused current Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard of being a "Russian asset" in the 2020 election. It seems there is a communist stooge behind every poll, as people such as Clinton make support for the establishment a loyalty test.

Long ago, I wrote about how the Russia investigation was spurring a new type of "red scare" as critics denounced Donald Trump, Republican members of Congress and commentators as Russian apologists or Kremlin assets. It was not enough that most of us agreed that Russian intervention in the 2016 election was worthy of investigation. It did not matter that special counsel Robert Mueller determined that no one in the Trump campaign knowingly worked with Russian agents.

It does not matter that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Democratic leaders reportedly have said they do not want to impeach Trump on Russian conspiracy claims, a curious thing, given their years of claiming clear proof of such crimes. It also does not matter that the United States has a long history of intervening in foreign elections or that we have regularly hacked the emails of foreign foes as well as close allies such as German Chancellor Angela Merkel. To even utter such facts is to find oneself on the feared "fellow travelers" list.

....
These comments by Clinton seem right out of the infamous Republican National Convention speech by McCarthy in 1952, in which he painted a widening group of Americans as Russian assets. He declared, "Our job as Americans and as Republicans is to dislodge the traitors from every place where they have been sent to do their traitorous work." It is an irresistible temptation to portray opponents as Russian cutouts or conspirators, so perhaps it was only a matter of time before accusations of Russian conspiracy moved from Republican to Democratic rivals.

The Clinton aversion to Russia appears to be an acquired distaste. Her campaign spent a massive amount of money seeking dirt on Trump from foreign sources, including Russian intelligence assets, in 2016. The Clinton campaign denied any involvement in the creation of the Christopher Steele dossier that the Obama administration used to secure a secret surveillance warrant against Trump associates. The campaign hid its payments to the opposition research firm Fusion GPS as "legal fees" among the millions of dollars paid to its law firm.

Clinton lawyer Marc Elias vigorously denied to The New York Times that the campaign funded the dossier. Reporters proved that was false, with journalist Maggie Haberman noting, "Folks involved in funding this lied about it, and with sanctimony, for a year." Even when Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta was questioned by Congress, he denied any contractual agreement with Fusion GPS as Elias sat beside him.

The question is whether voters again will be duped, not by the Russians but by our own American politicians here at home. Much has changed since 1954, when attorney Joseph Welch exposed McCarthy with his famous inquiry, "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" One thing is abundantly clear in government today. There is no room for decency in our duopoly of power.

I left a lot out cuz of fair use so read this at the source. It's ridiculous how so many people who are mainly Hillary supporters jumped on the red scare wagon after growing up hearing about the original red scare. Boy I'm sure they have made their parents proud.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by Wally on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 8:12pm

The People spoke Today

@gjohnsit

Critical Mass. Can any other Socialist candidate generate this level of support and enthusiasm? I won't even ask if any centrist candidate can. . . Can Tulsi?

Edward Snowden tweeted that "This crowd looks bigger than some inaugurations."

Submitted by dystopian on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 8:17pm

not soon enough

@gjohnsit not soon enough will Clinton and their proxies be the death of the party. It is a zombie already, the walking dead party. Only a thing because some inertia remains.

—

We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

Submitted by Wally on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 8:47pm

And Warren is a Clinton proxy who consults with ->Her

@gjohnsit

. . . and wanted to be HerHeinous's VP.

Maddie Albright is her FP mentor. I'm sure HerHeinous will hook Warren up with Henry Kissinger before he croaks.

Done for the night. I haven't had a high like today since the Michigan primary in 2016.

Submitted by lizzyh7 on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 3:56pm

Are there t-shirts

yet with "Russian Asset" on them? I really, really feel I need one right about now.

—

Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:13pm

Hillary makes me want some of THIS Russian Asset:

@lizzyh7

source

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:12pm

I would like this tshirt also

@lizzyh7

And two very small ones for my cats.

Kamala Harris' reaction was my favourite. I could almost see her brain calculating which was the safest but non-agreeing response to the question. I bet she could kick through a wall right now. Hillary Clinton's support and coattails were supposed to deliver her to the White House.

Submitted by Anja Geitz on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 7:28pm

Lol

If the cats get t-shirts, I want pictures

—

There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 7:41pm

Here you go lizzy

@lizzyh7

Submitted by GreatLakeSailor on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 8:15am

I snatched-up this gem...

@lizzyh7
...from the local charity resale shop a couple of weeks back. $3.99 well spent.

I'm An Asset T-Shirt

—

Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:02pm

What was that about women supporting women

and voting for Hillary Clinton in 2015/2016 cuz FEMINISM... curious how these types of principles never apply to Hillary.

Does she have a book recently published or a speaking series that isn't selling well?

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:19pm

Why yes she does have a book out

and she and her spawn are making the rounds on every site that will have them.

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:38pm

I would give up bread, chocolate and alcohol for a year

@snoopydawg to never again see another Clinton anywhere in or even adjacent to the public spotlight (including social media. I'm talking falling off the face of the earth silent).

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:48pm

OMG yes.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by irishking on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:08pm

Did I miss Bernie's defense of TG ?

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:21pm

I have seen one from Bernie yet

He just got done with his big rally so maybe something is coming soon. Marianne Wilson also spoke in favor of Tulsi but I couldn't find it again for this.

The CNN one takes the cake. "She doesn't deny that she is a Russian asset."

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:49pm

Heh...

If she floats then she is a witch.

Submitted by edg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:58pm

also

If she sinks, she's a witch that refused to use her evil powers to confirm she's a witch.

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 5:06pm

Has Hillary Clinton ever said she herself was not a Russian

@snoopydawg @snoopydawg asset? Warrants an investigation! I haven't heard her say "I am Hillary Clinton and I am not a Russian asset!" so I'm thinking she must be! /s

Can't believe that MSNBC panel. Insanity.

Submitted by OzoneTom on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 8:34pm

Bernie shouldn't have to wade into every Clintonite sh*tshow

@irishking
He has plenty on his plate. This BS is a Trumpian distraction, don't play into it.

Doesn't anyone understand that "Not me, us." is not just something for a button or tee-shirt? This is a big job and expecting Senator Sanders to do it all is just unrealistic.

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:28pm

These reactions are overall very disappointing

I get that the candidates are hesitant to say anything; I'm not saying I support their lack of backing Tulsi, just that I understand not wanting to risk the attention. It should be the press knocking down Clinton's doors, demanding an explanation, calling her out for this ridiculous rumour-mongering (particularly inappropriate from a former SoS), and going to bat for Tulsi. That said, I believe any response from the other candidates should include "I invite Hillary Clinton to substantiate her claim and offer proof."

As for Omnishambles Clinton, can this plague SIT DOWN and shut. The. Fuck. Up. Remember when she couldn't stop tooting her own unity horn, and is now accusing people of this?! This ghoul of politics past never ceases to enrage me with her attention-seeking stunts.

Submitted by Wally on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 7:23pm

Absolutely on point, Le Frog

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zvUKgSJKw]

BTW, wasn't Tad Devine, who was a top Bernie spokesman in 2016 (not sure of his position now) related to Andy Devine?

Submitted by wokkamile on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 12:47pm

Heh, disappointing ...

@Le Frog @Le Frog yeah, just a wee bit.

Rather cowardly of many of them, imo, the ones hiding from making comment so far. This one doesn't take hours and days of deep thinking and consultation with staff. 15 minutes to compose an official response strongly condemning Hillary's McCarthyite charges; 5 minutes if using Twitter.

So far only Marianne, Yang and Beto have passed the moral leadership test. One candidate, the favorite of 93% of the posters here, is notably silent. Biden, Bootajudge and Liz also.

It will be interesting to see how some of the cheerleaders for Bernie in the media spin his silence. I'm thinking Jimmy Dore, Jordan Chariton and Krystal Ball in particular, all of whom aren't shy about loudly calling out the deficiencies in other candidates. For the moment I'm sure they are hoping everyone will focus on his big rally yesterday and the AOC endorsement and not bother them to comment about that other thing as it works its way through the news cycle and eventually fades away.

Edit: Pete this morning has now spoken out generally condemning or disagreeing with Hillary's charges as not being backed by evidence. So that makes 4 candidates who've stepped up, though Pete just barely.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:51pm

I'm willing to give him a little more time--

@wokkamile

but if I don't see something from him in the next couple of days, I'll mount a serious critique of him on this site.

I like Bernie; I think he's a good man doing a good thing. That doesn't mean he's immune to criticism.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:55pm

If he thinks that having Nina Turner speak for him

is good enough, I'd say it means something, but not nearly enough. Leaving it only to surrogates would be a campaign mistake as well as an inferior moral response.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by irishking on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 2:51pm

Let's not forget

that Gabbard quit the DNC to back Bernie at great cost to herself.

She was finished as a mainstream Dem after that.

Could be that HRC hostility to her has root there.

His silence is "deplorable."

imo

Submitted by Wally on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 3:40pm

I think JTC elsewhere spoke to this kind of poking Bernie

. . . but that's my take.

Submitted by irishking on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 4:51pm

I would hope

@Wally

that my (rather mild) criticism is within bounds.
If that's not so, then JTC might want to let me know.

fwiw,

1. I gave a lot (for me)of money to Bernie in 2016.
2. Bought and wore his t-shirt, made phone calls, and canvassed door-to-door.
3. Went to his first rally in our state.
4. Got "timeouts" on Kos for refusing to shut up about him. That's why I came here.
5. Voted for Bernie in our primary.

Simply put, I was a huge Bernie fan in 2016 and would vote for him in 2020.
But when he falls short, I will speak up. (if permitted)

Don't think it is wrong to point out that TG has been the one to talk about the way the Clinton machine cheated Bernie. Stuck her neck way out for him in 2016 when it counted.

Where I come from, you stick up for your friends. Still hope Bernie will manage a word in her defense. More for his sake than hers at this point- she seems to be doing fine without his help.

thx. no problem here.

Submitted by Wally on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 7:46pm

Not deplorable

Tulsi Gabbard has put her life on the line to defend this country. People can disagree on issues, but it is outrageous for anyone to suggest that Tulsi is a foreign asset.

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) October 21, 2019

Submitted by irishking on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 8:46pm

Of course the word "deplorable"

@Wally

was used famously by HRC to describe Trump supporters.

I put it in quotes in my original comment- this was meant to inject a bit of humor which seems to have escaped you.

As to Bernie's tweet of Monday afternoon- I say "better late than never" and "beats a blank".

Since you went to the trouble of finding JtC quote-

I sincerely hope that Bernie supporters...
here at c99 don't start finger wagging the Tulsi supporters, and vice versa.

It seems to me that he is talking about supporters attacking one another and does not say that it is wrong to criticize a candidate like TG or HRC or even Bernie.

Just my take.
Now let us rock.

Submitted by JtC on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 5:11pm

I don't remember...

@Wally
saying anything like that.

I think JTC elsewhere spoke to this kind of poking Bernie

If I did please show me where.

Submitted by Wally on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 8:03pm

I won't drone on about it but .. .

@JtC

. . . to me at least, using the term "deplorable" towarda Bernie or Tulsi is tantamout to finger wagging, and it even smacks of Clintonism, but whatever. I ain't da boss. Don't wanna be, either.

I sincerely hope that Bernie supporters...
here at c99 don't start finger wagging the Tulsi supporters, and vice versa.

I sincerely hope that nobody here feels the need anymore to suggest Tulsi or Bernie is "deplorable" or somesuch epithet especially given that Bernie has now tweeted (and I'm sure he'll even be more forthcoming in coming days) in defense of Tulsi.

Take it for what y'all will:

[video:https://youtu.be/GBE9J-Tw5xE]

Submitted by irishking on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 9:02pm

I said that his

@Wally

silence was "deplorable" which is not a personal attack.

fwiw.

Now let us rock.

Submitted by Wally on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 9:13pm

Tulsi has been silent about and hasn't defended Kshama Sawant

I wouldn't suggest that her silence and inaction is deplorable. But that's me. Rock on.

So should we complain and criticize Tulsi and others for not defending Kshama Sawant from Amazon? Christ people, not everyone can be everything all the time. https://t.co/QFu1oNA9Mo

— dkmich (@dkmich) October 21, 2019

Submitted by JtC on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 10:49pm

You misunderstood...

@Wally
that comment. It was about how we treat each other here at c99, not how we treat politicians.

Submitted by Wally on Tue, 10/22/2019 - 7:15am

I can accept that as a community guideline

@JtC

. . . and will abide by it but I don't feel comfortable with it. Then again, I'm not interested in instituting what some folks call a safe space.

For my two cents, it's not a good idea to be casting biting aspersions on any kind of lefty since we are so few and far in between. Disagreements, sure. But I think there should be a line. And I realize that line is different for different people. And I realize that different people have different ideas of what's left. I'm glad I'm not a moderator. So it goes. Hang in there.

Submitted by JtC on Tue, 10/22/2019 - 8:21am

Obviously...

@Wally
you don't understand the premise of this site.

Submitted by Wally on Tue, 10/22/2019 - 8:34am

Doin' my best to Grok it.

@JtC

I yam, I yam.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:53pm

Putty Judge probably waited till he saw

@wokkamile

which way the wind was gonna blow before stepping up--sorta.

That guy just screams untrustworthy to me. Every bit of his body language yells it.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:32pm

Jimmy's

Independent congressman from state Hillary lost.

Only Hillary could hand pick her opponent, a political novice/game show host, & then be so repulsive to American voters that she lost to him.

This tweet reveals she has, once again, lost another hand-picked fight. https://t.co/QhxNNU5TM4

— Jimmy Dore (@jimmy_dore) October 19, 2019

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:40pm

Mr. Amash deserves a fruit basket

@snoopydawg that comment was excellent!

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:54pm

Wow, Justin Amash.

Well done indeed given that he's a Republican and pretty far to the right.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by Centaurea on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 5:36am

Amash seems to be a political maverick

@Battle of Blair Mountain

A real one, not the John McCain kind.

—

"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 8:19am

He was on Aaron Swartz's side.

@Centaurea

That's a major indicator for me.

The fascists really, really wanted to shut down Swartz.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by Battle of Blair... on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:38pm

Next time they cry foul

Over party infighting, demand party unity or insist vote blue no matter who...

Tell 'em to fuck off.

It's war. Gladiator v gladiator. To the death.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:48pm

Right on cue

CNN commentator: “If you have a problem with the way that Donald Trump smears people, well you need to take at look at Hillary Clinton because what she just did to Tulsi is no better than what Donald Trump does to people all the time.” pic.twitter.com/cdGTtIeaZB

— Ibrahim (@ibrahimpols) October 19, 2019

This Hillary crap should put a nail in the blue no matter who crowd. Click on any tweet posted and see how horrible people are in supporting Herheinous saying what she did. The link to stupid people is a good place to start. But once the democrats pick their candidate people are going to say that this election is theeee most important because we have to get Trump out of the WH. Please refer back to the second tweet here. Hillary had pushed even more people away from the DP. Great job Hills!

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 4:58pm

I'm seeing a mix of reactions on Twitter

@snoopydawg there are a surprising number of McResistance fools out there #StillWithHer and they are going hard about how "right" Omnishambles Clinton was about Trump and Russia, so she must be telling the truth. My reaction has been ? because I don't understand what she was right about. Like... how the fuck does someone so uninspiring generate such a loyal fandom?

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 5:13pm

Yeah I'm seeing lots of tweets like that

It's just amazing how people could change as much as they have since she lost. Neera is tweeting about how Hillary created CHIP. Sure that was good, but she also destroyed welfare as it once was. Now after your unemployment runs out you're on your own money wise. No safety net at all for millions.

Submitted by Dr. John Carpenter on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 6:51pm

Team politics, party before policy, projection,

@snoopydawg doubling down because people can’t face how wrong they were about HER...

These are just a few of the reasons I think people are #stillwithHER. Mostly it’s ego. To admit Russiagate is BS and HER lost because HER was a terrible candidate would mean having to admit they were wrong. It seems no one in the duopoly can do that anymore so everyone just yells louder.

My two cents anyway.

—

Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

Submitted by Reverend Jane I... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 7:58am

I've always liked frogs

But never as much as today! Thanks so much for your comments about Omnishambles, I've been laughing like I took one of the fun drugs for the past half an hour.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:58pm

Remember that Hillary is the one politician

that we know for sure employs propagandists to influence the internet with both human influencers and bots.

I'd be surprised if she doesn't still have David Brock, or someone like him, doing work for her--or for the DNC, which is basically the same thing.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 4:54pm

I just read a long winded tweet about bots

The guy analyzed a series of tweets about Tulsi and the warmonger tweet and came to the conclusion that there were many Russian bots that promoted it. I replied that it was Hillary's campaign team that sent out its correct the record bots during the last primary. Brock spent $1 million on getting people to go on websites to tell people that they were wrong about their opinions on Hillary. BTW. I read that this was borderline election fraud. But laundering $84 million through the DNC was definitely election fraud and so far she has skated. But we will always know that she had to cheat to beat Bernie and she used her party's intelligence to spy on Trump and dig up dirt and she still lost. Now that is some legacy don't you think?

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 4:56pm

Then of course most of her election team is working

for Liz and Kambama so yeah, she is still using her dirty tricks to sway the election.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 5:56pm

Yep.

—

"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by Unabashed Liberal on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 5:58pm

I'm glad FSC did as you said, below,

Hillary had pushed even more people away from the DP. Great job Hills!

Exposing the true nature of the folks who actually run the joint (behind the scenes) is a good thing.

IMO, the C's have diminished influence, today, but, they definitely aren't powerless. Unfortunately. So, anything that they do to diminish that power, is an absolute relief (to me).

Have a good one.

Mollie

I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive.
~~Gilda Radner, Comedienne

Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all others.
~~Cicero

The obstacle is the path.
~~Zen Proverb

—

Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 5:52pm

It looks like the “Queen of Warmongers” blinked

Heh...

A face-to-face confrontation between Hillary Clinton and Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard set for next Friday was averted when Clinton backed out of the Fortune Most Powerful Women Summit in Washington, DC.

Clinton aides cited a scheduling conflict when she announced her withdrawal from a speaking slot at the annual event. One insider told Slate that Clinton dropped out to protest the inclusion of former Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielson on the schedule.

But Gabbard is on the bill, too — and Clinton’s pull-out came just hours after the former Secretary of State on Friday accused the Hawaii Democrat of being the “favorite of the Russians” on a podcast.

Submitted by Le Frog on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 6:10pm

Maybe Saudi Arabian asset Neera Tanden

@snoopydawg can go in her place?

Submitted by Bollox Ref on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 7:22pm

Fortunately,

I'm just a low level Albanian asset.

Few complain. An easy life, with strong coffee.

As always,
Gëzuar!!

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Submitted by UntimelyRippd on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 7:38pm

I think I might be a Canadian asset.

@Bollox Ref
eh?

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

Submitted by Bollox Ref on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 7:44pm

Accept your asset nature

@UntimelyRippd

That's all we can do.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Submitted by UntimelyRippd on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 8:49pm

and as for the asset, manhasset.

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Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 3:00pm

Kiss my asset.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by GreatLakeSailor on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 8:48am

All this talk of assets reminds me of the Benny Hill joke:

"What's an 'Asset'?"

"A baby donkey!"

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Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:59pm

And I, of course,

“Russian Asset” Is A Meaningless Noise War Pigs Make With Their Face Holes

am a Macedonian asset.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by MrWebster on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 9:35pm

That Hillary smear is so stupid politically. Utter arrogance.

The Hillary crowd has argued that the Russians were able to move just enough votes to make her lose. And what does she do? Michael Tracey who follows Tulsi said that the majority of her supporters are democrats as he has attended her rallies, talked to people, consulted contributors list, etc. Clinton alienated supporters of a candidate who is polling 2%-6% of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY base.

Hillary is trying to insert herself into the primaries. I believe this attack is just a setup to go after Bernie, and open up the corporate media to ask if Bernie is a Russian asset.

It will be Hillary and her coherts who will finally destroy the democratic party.

Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 9:42pm

No doubt, Bernie is going to get a full throttle

@MrWebster surge of Russia Russia.
We can't have no lefties.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

Submitted by Creosote. on Mon, 10/21/2019 - 1:19am

Yes, like clockwork Her image appeared at the Guardian

@MrWebster
a week to ten days ago.
Timing must have been set up in her scheduler book; start publicity.
Now, as with current Resident, I can expect to see a lot more of Her.
If Steve Bell makes the connection I'll post a link.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 10/19/2019 - 9:54pm

Beto speaks about Tulsi

Every candidate should be asked about Hillary’s poisonous McCarthyite smear. I doubt one will endorse it when asked directly. But it will be interesting to see who avoids condemning it this clearly. https://t.co/L4czTPhrqd

— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) October 20, 2019

Remember when people were going to hell if they didn't vote for Herheinous? And every criticism against her was considered off limits? Didn't Herheinous herself say that sexism was one of the reasons why she lost the election? And didn't the inmates call every critical comment on her right wing talking points? Why yes they did. But apparently it's okay now for that candidate that got all of that sexism crap....it's okay for her now to attack a woman candidate. I sure wish I knew how this works.

Submitted by bondibox on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 9:09am

Caitlin hits a home run

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“He may not have gotten the words out but the thoughts were great.”

Submitted by Lookout on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 11:47am

Max Blumenthal comments...

with Aaron Mate'

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/20/max-blumenthal-on-why-hillary-clinton...

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 5:02pm

Thanks, LO

@Lookout

This is a great video. Love following Max. He and Aaron make a good team.

Submitted by wokkamile on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 12:43pm

Bootajudge

weighs in on the Hillary comments, in his moderately moderate way. Could have been a time to go less moderate, but it's moderate Pete, and it's better obviously than Kamala's cowardly evasive non-response. It barely makes it over my bar for acceptably adequate responses in the current situation.

I was actually surprised at Jake Tapper's negative view of Hillary's remarks -- it's an evidence-free smear, and why don't Democrats go after the accuser the way they go after Donald for smearing Dems.

Apparently Jake is not on the Clinton payroll. Nor Van Jones.

Submitted by Mark from Queens on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 2:21pm

Pure "poetry"; also Tim Black thinks Tulsi can now win it all

#Tulsi2020 #ClintonCrime #TulsiGabbard’s lines on HRC are poetry #BerniesBack #TulsiGabbard #DemocratsAreCorrupt
Tulsi knocked you out! Now hang your head in shame, woman! #HillaryIsAWarMonger #HillaryIsAWarMonger #FreeJulianAssange #NoExtradition #NoMoreClintons https://t.co/8gg2xzYSe0

— Cynthia Cirile (@CynthiaCirile) October 20, 2019

Watch Tim Black become so effusive of this moment, saying every time he's been ready to walk Tulsi pulls him back in. Going so far to see that she can win it all, that he's never seen a candidate (paraphrasing) so clear-headed, cool and un-intimidated.

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 3:04pm

Jake Tapper coming out on the right side of this issue

makes me extremely suspicious.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 5:01pm

So far the media is hit and miss

Don Lemon from CNN had some ex CIA analysts on and one of them pulled out the "lots of experts" are seeing some nefarious.....about Tulsi so yeah she could be getting some help from Russians who would like to see her win. It's so obvious that people are just making crap up, but sadly many people believe them. I like to post that this country's IQ levels went down after Her lost. That so many people bought into this new McCarthyism is just mind boggling.

Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Sun, 10/20/2019 - 5:59pm

Jake Tapper is a ClintonCorp operative