Turkey about to invade Syria, fight against U.S. forces

It appears that the conflict in Syria is about to get even more FUBAR, if that was even possible.

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Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has renewed a pledge to carry out a cross-border military operation into northeastern Syria to dislodge Kurdish fighters close to its border.

In a speech on Sunday, Erdogan said Russia and the United States have been informed of the planned operation, but did not say when the offensive would begin.

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Some fighting has broken out on the border between the Turks and the SDF.

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One obvious problem is that we have hundreds of troops that will be in direct danger.

U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said on Tuesday any Turkish operation into northern Syria would be “unacceptable” and the United States would prevent unilateral incursions, as tensions between Washington and Ankara simmer.
...“Clearly we believe any unilateral action by them (Turkey) would be unacceptable,” Esper told reporters traveling with him to Japan.

“What we’re going to do is prevent unilateral incursions that would upset, again, these mutual interests... the United States, Turkey and the SDF share with regard to northern Syria,” Esper said.

Fighting between NATO allies is almost, but not totally, unprecedented.
The other issue with a Turkish invasion would that it would destabilize the U.S. plans for partitioning and embargoing Syria.

And Damascus knows this full well.

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Kurdish media quoted by Al-Watan newspaper reported on the sending of large reinforcements of the Syrian Army and its allies to the eastern Syrian province of Deir Ezzor.

'More forces from the Syrian Army and its allies travelled to Deir Ezzor as part of the preparations being carried out to expel the SDF militia from the controlled areas in eastern Euphrate River,' Kurdish agency Hawar reported.

If the SDF are fully occupied fighting a Turkish invasion, then Damascus will be able to take back the oil fields of Deir Ezzor. They could break the U.S./British oil embargo.

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Pricknick's picture

One wonders why the Turks wanted S-400's?
The F-35 is not long to be of consequence if it ever was.
Check against the largest criminal and terrorist organization the world has ever witnessed.
USA! USA!

Once again....Well done gjohn.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

k9disc's picture

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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@k9disc

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

k9disc's picture

I might even say messianic.

I would say compared to just about anyone on the world stage. Maybe that fascist in the Philippines and Modi are on his level, but I doubt it. In the 1st and 2nd world, he kind of takes the cake, IMO.

I've only seen a couple of his speeches, both scary, and his quotes and general demeanor in the media, as an "ally" is pretty nutty too.

He's my odds on favorite to start WWIII. Drumpf is getting closer though...

@Pricknick

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

@k9disc It's WW4: https://penspages.wordpress.com/2016/06/11/the-usual-suspects-agenda-pha...

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U.S. backs down

Turkey and the United States have agreed to set up a joint operation centre to coordinate a planned safe zone in northern Syria, the Turkish defence ministry has said.
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Wally's picture

@gjohnsit

Seems the losers are the PKK and the PYD/YPG.

I've been looking all over RT but it seems mums the word.

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k9disc's picture

support for regime change locally again. Seems like a straw that broke the camel's back, perhaps when it comes to our loyalty.

And I'm not surprised we backed down. Like I said, Erdogan is a madman. I think the world leaders know it too.

Interesting list of happenings that ggersh posted too... I think the worm may have turned.
@Wally

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

@k9disc
Turkey would lose economically and politically from a conflict with the U.S.

But in the short run, there is no way that we could stop Erdogan from achieving his goals.
We don't have nearly enough men at the point of attack, even when you include the sdf.
And Turkey has no shortage of air force too.

To many in the muslim world, inflicting a defeat on America would make Erdogan a hero. The 2nd coming of Nassar.

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ggersh's picture

but it does seem to be a concerted effort taken by some
allies/non allies to baffle clueless ameriKan leadership

Modi annexes Kashmir
Russia announces new planes/missiles
China responds strongly to tRumpolini tariffs
Kim shooting off missiles daily
Iran is grabbing tankers left and right
Turkey with this

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSpO2B6G4s]

EDIT: adding that I just saw Gold and Silver popping in price
GCZ19

Gold (Dec '19)

1,509.7

+25.5

320,702
08:31 CT

SIU19

Silver (Sep '19)

16.960

+0.515

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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Aren't they sympathetic to and supportive of the PKK and the PYD/YPG?

Last I noticed, too, the YPG were becoming much less antagonistic to Assad, even cooperating with him in some respects.

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detroitmechworks's picture

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs]

About the only good thing about a nuclear war is the morons who started it will absolutely regret it.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

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the morons who started it will absolutely regret it.

They are buying luxury bomb shelters in New Zealand, as if that will save them.
They should read "On the beach".

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Hawkfish's picture

@gjohnsit

Is “how do I maintain authority over my security forces?” Shock collars? Heart plugs? I mean what do these clowns think they have to offer a society where the ability to manipulate imaginary resource numbers has no value?

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