How Can Socialism Be Built in the United States?

Let me first begin with a hint: You can't do it by voting for Bernie Sanders or Tulsi Gabbard. The only thing they have any vested interest in is the preservation of capitalism and imperialism. No amount of "debates", interviews with rich asshole media personalities or excuses from their supporters (Including and especially here) will prove otherwise.

So how do we go about building socialism then? It is a long and difficult process. There is also resistance from capitalists to worry about because as has been shown time and time again, they'll die and take the rest of life on earth with them before giving up even ONE RED CENT to help anything or anyone not part of their clique. In their eyes, if they can't have it, no one will. It will be difficult, but it can be done and there is a historical precedent on how we can proceed.

So, here are a few ideas based on the video below:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7VXtQ6vtpE]

1. The abolition of the current government from top to bottom. The court system, congress, the presidency, local government, all of it.

The government of the United States was set up for the purpose of protecting the capitalists from those they enslaved and indentured. Local governments were set up in a similar fashion. Either way, they have operated in this manner since the founding to no benefit of workers here or abroad.

A government of, for and by workers would ensure that the needs of workers are met and that workers decide how the resources and products they produce are used, with the profits going back to the workers.

The goal is to form local, state and national workers' councils to decide what to do with resources at every level.

2. A New Constitution Drafted by a Workers' Congress

To say that the current constitution doesn't recognize the rights of workers would be the understatement of the millennium. The congress shall work to make sure the rights of all workers, including workers of color, women and LGBTQ+ workers, are respected to the fullest extent possible. This workers' constitution shall be updated as material conditions change for the continued benefit of all workers.

3. A Complete Economic Overhaul, Beginning with the Abolition of Wall Street

Wall Street, along with all forms of capitalism, do nothing to help with the betterment of society. Wall Street shall be one of the first items abolished under the new Workers' Congress. The Federal Reserve shall become a national public cooperative bank under the control of this congress.

Large corporations will be given a 'Corporate Death Penalty' with the assets used to improve the lives of workers. Smaller businesses and self-employed workers will be given assistance in transitioning to local cooperative communities that allow all workers to have a stake in the workplace.

There shall be no unnecessary credentialism as is pushed in the current capitalist, imperialist paradigm. All workers who are able shall be given the opportunity to do the work they wish in their community with whatever paid training or education is appropriate for said work.

The work week shall not exceed 40 hours. Overworked workers are not productive workers. To that end, there shall also be mandated vacation time.

4. A Long-Overdue Overhaul of the Justice System

The court system as we know it will be completely abolished. It serves no purpose other than the defense of capital at worker expense.

To begin with, bribery of public officials will not be tolerated. Bribery shall be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible.

There shall be no religious or politically motivated laws to restrict the rights of workers.

Policing shall be handled with compassion in mind. There shall be no profiling based on race, gender or religion. Any peace officer that uses excessive force in dealing with suspects shall be immediately removed from their position and prosecuted severely.

The current for-profit prison system shall be replaced with a public re-education system focused on rehabilitation to allow offenders to re-enter society and prevent recidivism. When released, a job, home and other needs as necessary shall be met.

5. Education Overhaul

To start with, all student loan debt shall be forgiven. No worker should have to go into debt peonage just to make a living. A job shall be guaranteed once education or training is completed with a worker placement program.

A worker-based education system shall do the following:

a. teach skills necessary to empower workers for the betterment of local communities based on community needs (as Mao did with education in rural areas) and what students wish to learn to some degree

b. develop and strengthen consciousness for continuation of the class struggle

c. treat educators with respect, as they are workers as much as all of us, with their role being among the most important

6. Healthcare

The for-profit system for delivering medical care shall be abolished. In its place, the Congress of Workers shall implement a National Health Service.

The pharmaceutical and insurance industries shall be abolished. Opioids shall be abolished save for in the most extreme cases where they may be medically necessary.

Women shall not, under any circumstances, be obstructed from seeking information regarding, or obtaining, a termination of pregnancy. Any discussion shall be left between doctor and patient.

7. Prosecution of Capitalists and War Criminals

Current and former presidents still living shall be tried and prosecuted for war crimes with regards to military adventurism in the Middle East and North Africa that has destroyed millions of lives. A war-crimes tribunal shall be convened to facilitate trials and sentencing.

Capitalists who push for said adventurism shall also be tried not only for war crimes, but for deliberately crashing the world economy as was done in 1981 and 2008 for the gain of the capitalists at worker expense.

8. Firearms and Training

No worker shall be without the right to defend themselves. A worker may possess and receive training with a personal handgun. Unarmed combat training shall also be offered.

For community defense, there shall be an armory for automatic weapons that can be quickly accessed whenever necessary. Training for use and safety shall be provided.

9. Infrastructure, Climate Change and Disaster Relief

It can be thoroughly demonstrated that an infrastructure overhaul is absolutely necessary. Renewable energy must be developed quickly, not gradually as some pro-capitalists suggest.

Infrastructure and other measures to combat climate change will also be addressed immediately.

Disaster relief will be as fast as possible, and no situation like Puerto Rico after Maria or New Orleans after Katrina will be allowed to happen ever again (Especially with "President" Trump using PR's debt as an excuse to deny them relief).

The nation's water system shall also be modernized to prevent disasters such as those in Flint, Michigan from ever happen again. Governor Snyder and his accomplices shall also be jailed immediately for their actions regarding Flint.

10. National Defense and Foreign Policy

The United States shall no longer engage in imperialist action. All overseas bases shall be shut down and troops brought back home immediately.

US foreign policy will be based on international empowerment of workers, with no imperialist action taken under such pretenses.

National defense shall include:

Assisting with construction of infrastructure, restoration of ecosystems, rebuilding efforts for disaster relief and assisting with efforts to combat climate change mentioned above

Defense against invasion from hostile forces

Yes, this is a short list, but it's a start. Feel free to add more in the comments.

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Pricknick's picture

when the world carries one tenth of the current human population and is on it's way to extinction.
Then, and only then, will this happen.
Your first highlight is but a pipe dream.

1. The abolition of the current government from top to bottom. The court system, congress, the presidency, local government, all of it.

I wont waste my time dreaming. I may not be happy with the current system we have, yet I know the limits of human degradation. There are none.
I call mad max before utopia.
Try your best to enjoy the ride. It wont be pretty but it will be entertaining in a sick sort of way.
Peace.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

Shahryar's picture

there's no sense in holding on to the dollar in a true socialist state. Money equals hoarding.

In a true socialist state there isn't any color, there isn't any LGBTQ+. There would only be the people.

Your #10 is a big one.

Pricknick is right about the impossibility of it, at least in our lifetimes. It'll probably take a catastrophe, financial or climate, before it falls.

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Daenerys's picture

@Shahryar when they don't want to pay you.

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This shit is bananas.

Azazello's picture

has it occurred to you that maybe the people who will vote for Bernie Sanders or Tulsi Gabbard aren't actually trying to "build socialism"?

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

Pricknick's picture

@Azazello
am not trying to "build" it.
It will only happen naturally. A wolves laying with sheep sort of thing.
It's just not in the human nature to get along with everything and everyone.
Socialism by humans will never happen.
Just ask the wolves.
Smile

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The Aspie Corner's picture

@Azazello They'd rather 'build' Suck Demockery (Social Democracy) which the fascists will roll back later, just like they did starting in 1969. Just goes to show nothing at all has been learned since the last presidential "election".

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

Azazello's picture

@The Aspie Corner
who remind me of these guys.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

thanatokephaloides's picture

@Azazello

There is little to be learned from Bolshevik loons, who remind me of these guys. [SCA]

What did the SCAdians ever do to you, Azazello? Smile

They're no more harmful than any other historical battle re-enactors.

Modern people (i.e., Internet age) who don't recognize, accept, and embrace the fact that Leninism is permanently dead are far more of a danger to humanity than the SCAdians will ever be.

The closest parallel I could imagine would be Civil War re-enactors of the Confederate (Traitor) side who actually kept blacks as slaves. Bad

Fortunately for humanity, the latter don't exist. (At least as far as I can tell.) Unfortunately for humanity, there are still true beLIEvers in Leninism out there.

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides
when I was looking for an analogy and, like latter-day Bolsheviks, I regard them as basically harmless. The irritating thing is, these Bolsheviks presume to lecture the rest of us, as though they have it all figured out and we're just some dumb-asses. Jimmy Dore has a term for this: smugnorance. I've been reading Bolshevik history for years. I wish some folks would spend some time doing the same instead of watching YouTube vids and then telling us how misguided we are. It's funny, really, but sad at the same time.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

thanatokephaloides's picture

@Azazello

The irritating thing is, these Bolsheviks presume to lecture the rest of us, as though they have it all figured out and we're just some dumb-asses. Jimmy Dore has a term for this: smugnorance. I've been reading Bolshevik history for years. I wish some folks would spend some time doing the same instead of watching YouTube vids and then telling us how misguided we are. It's funny, really, but sad at the same time.

And unfortunate. Those efforts would be better spent almost everywhere else rather than trying to restore life to something that cannot and should not be.

Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

The Aspie Corner's picture

@thanatokephaloides The capitalists rolled that shit back before my generation (millennial, you know, those kids the boomers like to harp on as lazy and stupid) was ever born. And even at its best it left us with winners and losers.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

thanatokephaloides's picture

@The Aspie Corner

So is Social Democracy.

False. From Iceland to Sweden to Bolivia, the most successful governments and economies in the world are Social Democracies. Venezuela's only not among them because their only major export commodity is petroleum, which is a cluster-fuck no matter how you slice it.

The capitalists rolled that shit back before my generation (millennial, you know, those kids the boomers like to harp on as lazy and stupid) was ever born. And even at its best it left us with winners and losers.

All systems of human beings have winners and losers. All of them. This fact is about as escapable as gravity or electromagnetism. Every human being has to live with that unfortunate fact.

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

The Aspie Corner's picture

@thanatokephaloides Social Democracy is being rolled back. Hell, the only reason Social Democracy was even allowed in the first place was 1. They had to placate workers to undermine the labor movement and 2. The capitalists were left with little choice but to offer something in light of the fact that the very existence of the Soviet Union emboldened labor movements elsewhere scared the shit out of the capitalists.

Was it perfect? Hell no. But virtually all accusations made to it, Maoist China and other socialist countries are outright bullshit. And considering the fact that every imperialist power tried to take them down, they still did well all things considered.

I will agree that we shouldn't revive dead leaders, but trying to keep a dying ideology such as Social Democracy alive is equally foolish, especially considering the fact that the capitalists will just roll it back all over again.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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one of the things that has always bothered me about marxist ideology/rhetoric is its emphasis on people as workers.

i have a couple of reasons. one, capitalists value people as commodities rather than recognizing their intrinsic value as human beings. by almost exclusively pitching their rhetoric to/about workers, marxists appear to buy into the commodification of humans and the values that extend from that. i have often wondered if this not-too-subtle bias in rhetoric was the reason that communist experiments (particularly in russia and china) seem to have amounted to a form of state capitalism (where the power of a small group of capitalists to order the economy and the society was transferred to a small group of men at the head of the state).

two. when i dream, i dream big. i would like to abolish work to the greatest extent possible, especially industrial work, which i feel would be better performed by machines.

most work these days is bullshit work. tedious, soul-killing, servility-imposing make-work. there is no real reason for it, except that we have been condtioned (with existential threats) to believe that we must have a job because work (any work) is double plus good and signals our value to society. the powers-that-be have conditioned us to serve and accept that our value comes from service rather than from being human.

there is no need for most of us to work. the opportunity cost of so many humans wasting their time making pet rocks and shining shoes is enormous.

if work is largely abolished and marxist society values and is for workers, what happens?

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@joe shikspack Didn't you know? Doesn't matter if it's shit work, or real shit work, or double real double shit work. Just work. But do it collectively, with peace, harmony, and understanding.

I think you just threw Marx a curve.

Maybe the socialists could organize AI while humans sit on their asses?

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@joe shikspack

most work these days is bullshit work. tedious, soul-killing, servility-imposing make-work. there is no real reason for it, except that we have been condtioned (with existential threats) to believe that we must have a job because work (any work) is double plus good and signals our value to society. the powers-that-be have conditioned us to serve and accept that our value comes from service rather than from being human.

there is no need for most of us to work. the opportunity cost of so many humans wasting their time making pet rocks and shining shoes is enormous.

if work is largely abolished and marxist society values and is for workers, what happens?

The mind can develop and be full used, it can be used to create instead of being used to destroy and then we can actually become human beings.

That's my guess

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@joe shikspack

two. when i dream, i dream big. i would like to abolish work to the greatest extent possible, especially industrial work, which i feel would be better performed by machines.

most work these days is bullshit work. tedious, soul-killing, servility-imposing make-work. there is no real reason for it, except that we have been condtioned (with existential threats) to believe that we must have a job because work (any work) is double plus good and signals our value to society. the powers-that-be have conditioned us to serve and accept that our value comes from service rather than from being human.

there is no need for most of us to work. the opportunity cost of so many humans wasting their time making pet rocks and shining shoes is enormous.

That is where Marxism's problems definitely lie these days. Many seem to think that material conditions are still the same as the post-WW2 period.

You're also correct about most work being complete bullshit (especially in the world of IT). That also means that most education is bullshit. Look no further than Computer Science degrees, with no chance in hell of finding work once completed because employers want pointless certifications to go along with the years of education we went into debt to get. It's also why I'm back to languishing in a classroom setting for another three years. It'll never be enough for them.

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Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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a monarchy to a capitalist oligarchy. Best book ending I ever read was by Tom Clancy. Almost every person involved in the government was at the capital like at the state of the union address and a Japanese pilot flew a plane into it. The new VP was waiting in the tunnel and survived and he rebuilt the government with normal people and also rewrote the tax code.

This is a nice pipe dream and I'd love to see it happen. But I disagree with this..

The pharmaceutical industry shall be abolished. Opioids shall be abolished save for in the most extreme cases where they may be medically necessary.

This should be nationalized and should have been long ago because we helped pay for their research and development. But opioids do have a place in this world unless you can do away with pain from all sources.

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“When out of fear you twist the lesser evil into the lie that it is something good, you eventually rob people of the capacity to distinguish between good and evil.”
~ Hannah Arendt

any "ism" that isn't susceptible to the human propensity towards greed, power and corruption at the top? Until we humans figure out how to keep sociopaths and psychopaths from the reins of power there will be no relief.

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@JtC
Greed, power and corruption is what makes humans human.

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@Pricknick
benevolent rulers and just societies that eventually succumb to the weight of power and corruption given enough time.

Has there ever been an example that disproves that?

And to keep on topic, what would cause socialism to be immune from that same fate?

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@JtC

benevolent rulers and just societies that eventually succumb to the weight of power and corruption given enough time.

It is human nature after all and no form of true socialism can exist.
Wolves are always going to eat lamb.

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@Pricknick
that it's a paradigm shift in the human mind that's needed.

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@JtC

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Centaurea's picture

@JtC to keep sociopaths from taking power. I believe that we've (collective "we") reached the point where that paradigm shift has to happen, and soon, in order for the human race to survive.

As Caity Johnstone says, "evolve or die".

Interestingly, our having reached that point is what gives me hope. I personally believe that the human species, at the collective level, has made the decision to survive. The fun part is, we have absolutely no idea what human life will be like once we're on the other side of that paradigm shift. Seen in this light, our speculations about the roles of capitalism, Marxism, etc. become potentially meaningless in any event.

(If this sounds too "woo" for anyone reading it, just pass right on by. Give rose )

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

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@Centaurea

…The hollow horn plays wasted words
Proves to warn that he not busy being born
Is busy dying …
https://www.bing.com/search?q=its%20all%20right%20ma%20lyrics&pc=cosp&pt...

[video:https://youtu.be/_CJHbfkROow]

Your Rumi quote always awakens me

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Centaurea's picture

@janis b so I can see it and keep it in mind.

Some days I feel very despairing and cynical, like I want to give up. Then I remind myself that's another form of going back to sleep.

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

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@Centaurea

and very comforting.

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@Centaurea

'I personally believe that the human species, at the collective level, has made the decision to survive.'

and

'Seen in this light, our speculations about the roles of capitalism, Marxism, etc. become potentially meaningless in any event.

may i ask survive what? nuclear war or climate chaos? quite different, imo.

i'll drop off another favorite rumi quote that to me equals capitalism. after all, capitalism exists to create more capital for the ruling class, and there's never enough.

Whatever possessions and objects of its desires the lower self may obtain, it hangs on to them, refusing to let them go out of greed for more, or out of fear of poverty and need.

so i'll wait to see which threat you imagine before i go on, okay? ; )

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@wendy davis

may i ask survive what? nuclear war or climate chaos? quite different, imo.

Either, or both, or something else (a global pandemic that arises and wipes us out, for instance). These events are - directly or indirectly - a product of the human collective consciousness, and of our actions and inactions.

This doesn't mean that we humans are in control of everything that happens in the universe that could affect us. If a huge meteor heads to the Earth, that's probably not something we caused. On the other hand, we could take action in an attempt to avert disaster, or mitigate the damage after it's happened. In our present state, I don't believe we're capable of working together to accomplish that sort of thing.

With climate chaos, no matter what the causes for it may be, we have so far failed to take appropriate measures to address it. Mostly, we remain in a state of collective denial. That's on us.

I think it's also important to note that the survival of the human species doesn't necessarily mean that all individual members of the species will survive.

Whatever possessions and objects of its desires the lower self may obtain, it hangs on to them, refusing to let them go out of greed for more, or out of fear of poverty and need.

Yes. It feels like an addiction. The system we've collectively put, or allowed to be put, into place literally cannot stop itself.

The Buddhists call this the "hungry ghost", and it's a part of the human psyche at our present state of evolution.

I believe that's what Rumi was talking about here when he referred to the "lower self". It's not just oligarchs like Jeff Bezos who are the addicts. It's a part of all of us.

It's therefore a part of the human collective consciousness that has created the world we're living in. Including Donald Trump as POTUS.

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"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi

"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone

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@Centaurea

notes that within every yin is a speck of yang. while i agree with mot of what you've written, i'm not able to buy 'we're in state of collective denial' as the underlying failure to address it; to me it's being enslaved by capitalism. by now, it's too late, but i'm not sure that the human species even deserves to be saved, myself. the planet may be be able to cleanse itself, although it will sure be tough for the oceans to.

take a peek if you might care to at the indigenous side meetings at rio 2012 i'd provided to aspie corner. they knew what was killing the planet long ago, as well as all of the 'false solutions' afoot.

sorry to be burned out enough that i'm unable to answer your considered comment better.

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@JtC

'paradigm shift' connotes, but certainly we need a global 'massive shift to higher consciousness'.

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@Pricknick

your statement. most humans are hard-wired for empathy and cooperation at birth (although the experiments that claim to prove it don't account for toddlers' mums in the room, etc.). but humans can and often DO learn to be bullies and sociopaths when raised by authoritarian bullies, and learn from kindergarten onward that it's a dog eat dog, zero-sum, social Darwinian nation. compete, win...or die world.

some exceptions are babies that failed to bond to a prime caregiver, those who were damaged in utero, and especially those who were physically and emotionally abused by their alleged caregivers.

socialism in its simplest definition means all are equal in a society, and the rules laid out come from the population upward, much like the zapatistas in chiapas. howie kleins's 'socialize these sectors' lists are good, but sadly he's predominantly running on his Green Party green new deal.

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@wendy davis of most human beings. It is the systems under which we have to function that damage each of us in subtle ways that many of us do not recognize. And certainly our capitalistic economic system which has been put on steroids by the neoliberals has done enormous harm to far too many human beings, animals, and the environment.

I do not have much to add to this discussion because there are far more people here who are better read and understand political systems and history than me. Still, I am finding the discussion on this essay very interesting and enlightening.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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@gulfgal98

globally, i reckon most humans are good, or good enough in most situations, depending on what that means to each of us.

amerikans? as i'd said, i believe most were born decent and empathetic, but that was trained out of them at early ages, including in school, or course. (i spent some time on the subject in a recent diary titled close to 'cooperation v. competition'. some of those 'subtle ways' you mention may be under the category: 'when the economic pie gets smaller and smaller' that changes people quickly: someone's to blame! but i haven't lived in a time where that wasn't true.

a far as neo-liberalism on steroids, and depending on what one's definition is (free market globalization and privatizing what was once public (or 'the commons'?), i suppose so. but it's capitalist corporatism that's torched the planetary ecosystems, and especially the US war machine, now busy in 70% on the nations of the world, tom dispatch wrote the other day.

so for me, it makes no sense that climate chaos will be mitigated by capital, although all sorts of new businesses are popping up to do just that, bill gates' wild geo-engineering is only the most recent that i've seen in the twittersphere. guess somebody's gotta make money while the planet burns, the oceans rise and boil, though.

given the ocasio/markey and the UK green new deals, it was inevitable. just hand the money over to the lords of capital directly; they'll fix it! me, i'd rather see the bucks spent on holding back the seas where it can help, and aiding the nations and islands hit by the epic hurricanes. the everyday hatians are still in mortal distress.

ach, i should STFU; the commander-in-chief's military day celebration is probably about over; i shouldn't have read about it at wsws. and of course the US and UK are both provoking iran again. my apologies for ranting, gulfgal. but on this 'independence day', i ask 'where's the independence from want of the most basic needs for ordinary amerikans? shelter, medical care, healthy food, clean drinking water, public transportation...well, you know the list.

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@wendy davis

but it's alright, ma: they're bein' careful! wot could possibly go wrong?

"This is precisely why the Harvard research team intends to spray tiny chalk (calcium carbonate) particles into the stratosphere in a controlled experiment. Computer models can only go so far in predicting the impacts this geoengineering technique, it is time for a real world test. With funding in part by Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates, the Harvard team will begin to answer the remaining questions as early as the spring of 2019.

While the potential negative effects are not fully characterized, the ability to control Earth's temperature by spraying small particles into the stratosphere is an attractive solution largely due to its cost. The recent Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report estimated that the continual release of particles into the stratosphere could offset 1.5 °C of warming for $1 billion to $10 billion per year."

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@wendy davis the Green New Deal. All they're going to do with it is more pyrrhic gradualism that allows the oil barons to continue to exist.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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@The Aspie Corner

that's what 'net-zero carbon' actually means: market solutions (carbon trading and offsets), carbon capture and storage, nuclear for now, not later, a wet dream for finance capital.

the indigenous of the planet called it over twenty years ago: the planet cannot survive capitalism, nor the Green Revolution (gmo food). the indigenous brought the bolivian cochabamba accords to the rio sustainabiity conference in 2012...again. and on other document i've forgotten. most the links to the full texts from my diaries during that time are no longer extant, sadly. i grabbed one link from twitter, but i'm not sure where (or if) i'd stored it.

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@The Aspie Corner

'ell of it, i grabbed two diaries from the 2012 rio sustainability conference. both have part of the accords brought by the indigenous to the 'side meetings' (they weren't allowed into the Big Deal Meetings).

Mexican peace group Teotihuacan and la via campesina

kari-oca II

awesome documents, magnificent activists. any number of videos and photos.

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@JtC

Is there... any "ism" that isn't susceptible to the human propensity towards greed, power and corruption at the top?

Yes. Anarchism. Eliminate "the top", and that problem goes away. Now how to implement that? No one knows.

Until we humans figure out how to keep sociopaths and psychopaths from the reins of power there will be no relief.

spelling corrected

Neither justice nor peace.

Ewww!

Bad

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides
corrected.

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@thanatokephaloides @thanatokephaloides Although in the case of AnCaps, all anyone who's 'tried' to start an AnCapistan like Galt's Gulch Chile has taken the money and ran. So, they do what the SuckDems do: Vote in capitalist controlled elections, but unlike SuckDems, AnCaps actually get some of what they want when their side wins because they're just fascists in Anarchist garb. And SuckDems? They just keep trying to be the moderate wing of fascism: Placating first world workers while continuing capitalism and imperialism abroad.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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this yesterday, but earlier i'd grabbed these links to possibly put up for discussion in a separate thread.

i'm not a big fan of this proyect fellah, although i've forgotten my earlier chich with him, but you'll no doubt enjoy the following:

June 28, 2019Socialism 2019: the Left at a Crossroads’, by Louis Proyect, counterpunch

“It hardly comes as any surprise that sponsorship of the ISO’s Socialism 2019 conference to be held in Chicago from July 4th through 7th has been relinquished to Haymarket, Jacobin, and the Democratic Socialists of America. Haymarket was the publishing arm of the ISO that will soldier on. Jacobin and the DSA, as the emcees put it, need no introduction. With the Jacobin/DSA imprimatur, this might be a larger than usual conference and should at least be devoid of the kind of pep rally atmosphere you’d expect at an ISO event although—who knows—maybe there will be a surprise appearance by Bernie Sanders, the DSA endorsed candidate who has never bothered to encourage his supporters to join the DSA.”

“Whatever else, the conference will allow me to take the pulse of the ex-ISOers and DSAers who will likely dominate the panel discussions and account for comments during Q&A. My main interest at this point is in trying to understand the thinking of the young left in 2019 that has accepted the idea that voting for Democrats is a tactic that can help lead to a revolution sometime down the road.”

the conference link
amy goodman and naomi 'this changes nothing' author? ah: let's fetter capitalism again!

but i got to remembering how scathing the SEP authors have been about the ISO, and dug up a ew titles:

Leaders of dissolved International Socialist Organization openly embrace Democratic Party politics’, By David Walsh, 24 June 2019

who funds the ISO?

“A review of the tax filings of the nonprofit umbrella organization of the ISO and Haymarket Books—the Center for Economic Research and Social Change (CERSC)—reveals that the ISO was, to a great extent, funded by Democratic Party-led think tanks and nonprofits.
The “Big Three” Democratic Party-linked foundations supporting the ISO

A full 37 percent of CERSC’s funding has been from grants by Democratic Party-aligned think tanks and nonprofits. Since 2007-08, CERSC has received $3,172,117 from foundations and think tanks. In large part through these grants, CERSC’s revenue flow increased four-fold, from $1,055,100 in 2007-08 to $4,245,626 in 2016-17. Its cash-on-hand has increased by 1,175.6 percent, and its total assets have increased from $420,700 to $2,956,775 (603.1 percent) over the same period.

An assembly of political bankrupts: Historical Materialism and Jacobin host “Socialism in Our Time” conference’, 16 April 2019

“There was no discussion of the rise of the far-right and fascistic movements internationally, the significance of the growth of the class struggle, or the danger of world war. No one provided any serious assessment of the Trump administration or the role of the Democratic Party in facilitating its right-wing policies.

While it was held just two days after the arrest of Julian Assange in London, this also went unmentioned. No one considered that the seizure of the WikiLeaks founder and his threatened rendition to the United States had any relationship to the building of a socialist movement.

As for history, an ostensible theme of the conference, the participants studiously avoided any reference to the historical record, which would only expose their own record of betrayal and treachery.

In January, the Socialist Equality Party submitted a panel proposal to the conference under the headline “The fight against fascism and the lessons of history.” The featured speaker was to be Christoph Vandreier, deputy national secretary of the Sozialistische Gleichheitspartei (Socialist Equality Party) in Germany and author of Why Are They Back?; Historical Falsification, Political Conspiracy and the Return of Fascism in Germany.

The SEP panel proposal was rejected by the conference organizers. Any expression of genuine socialist politics was to be excluded."

it all reminds me of the (sorta) Left Forum conferences, and which panel discussions have been deemed 'too fringe/conspiracy to be worthy of serious discussion'. one i remember was a discussion of the official 9/11 report.

on later edit: seriously?

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will become corrupt. So wiping the whole of what exists now in terms of political/governmental/labor systems off the map will only guarantee that whatever takes its place will spiral downward too. The impulse to create utopia, while interesting sometimes in theory, is one that can only bring more heartburn.

Nice try, but your emphasis on calling everyone "workers" gives me the creeps. It smacks of that old Russian Lenin/Marx stuff. I get a picture of some dictator looking down over the "masses of workers" who are on their way to the factories.

And just WHO runs the "worker placement programs"? Sounds like another bureaucracy just ready to become corrupt.

The phrase "shall be" .... h-m-m-m... again, dictatorial.

I feel like your suggestions for a socialist utopia come from a place of anger. I can't sign on to that.

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