Bernie's LA Rally Attracts 20K(?), Attendees Have Appropriate Answer To Inquirers Of Crowd Size: "99%." Supporters Will Have Hands Full Both Getting Accurate Coverage and Responding To Guaranteed Collusion by MSM/DNC - Again.
Exactly how many people attended isn’t yet known, but the numbers are significant since the park can hold from 25,000 to 50,000 people, depending on the setup. On top of that, 22,000 RSVP’d on Facebook for Sanders’ event in LA, and crowd size photos show a significant turnout. In fact, so many people showed up that an overflow crowd formed on the steps of City Hall across the street.
Los Angeles right now. Not everyone has arrived.
We're just getting started. #BernieInLA pic.twitter.com/qKuAt4CdnN
— #BernieSanders for President 2020 (@WeLoveBernie20) March 23, 2019
The crowd right now waiting for @BernieSanders to speak #BernieInLA pic.twitter.com/OBG2zRwV9q
— Andrew Kimmel (@andrewkimmel) March 23, 2019
Look at this movement RT @People4Bernie: WE will not accept a handful of billionaires controlling our economy! #BernieInLA pic.twitter.com/4Ws7HV5LXZ
— John Cusack (@johncusack) March 23, 2019
How did Bernie & Kamala spend the weekend in LA?
Bernie joined UCLA’s striking workers, visited the Islamic Center of SoCal, & held a free rally that drew 15K+supporters.
Kamala went on Jimmy Kimmel & to a $2,800-$10K per person fundraiser. #BernieInLA https://t.co/S5i2L2uA6D
— OurRev305 #ElectTheBern (@OurRev305) March 24, 2019
Bernie is now taking the stage to John Lennon's "Power To The People"
.@BernieSanders comes out in Los Angeles. We are the many. #BernieInLA pic.twitter.com/lZEiwQvFh1
— People for Bernie (@People4Bernie) March 23, 2019
The @BernieSanders crowds keep getting bigger. This is a significant political development. He is generating the sort of enthusiasm—in a key state: California—that is usually seen on the eve of a major primary. If Sanders sustains this energy, it changes every 2020 calculation. pic.twitter.com/XmxHWMBd0a
— John Nichols (@NicholsUprising) March 24, 2019
Watch now. #BernieinLA #Bernie2020
https://t.co/nLurAZmwCB— RoseAnn DeMoro (@RoseAnnDeMoro) March 23, 2019
The reasons for posting this essay are varied.
Mainly though, I think for anybody who's committed to seeing victory for this campaign there has to be in place sooner than later an emergency rapid-response press team for times like these, which presumably went under-reported in the MSM (given its size and the earliness in the campaign of it). Most pressingly will be the strength of such a unit's response when the inevitable hit-pieces, misinformation and outright lies begin to be flung by the MSM.
How the MSM covers such a rally, and this early out, may not be of that much concern. But it probably should. It's a clear example and reminder that the MSM will do its best to minimize Bernie, when he's at his best, and ridicule and denigrate Bernie, when he's just going about his campaigning business.
As for the sizes of these campaign rallies, in 2016 one of the many typically condescending pontifications handed down by the snobby, elitist Neoliberals at TOP, which were the same as in the corporate media, was the reflexive dismissal of Bernie's awe-inspiring and fear-inducing (to his opponents) rally sizes. The notion of whether crowd sizes mean anything concretely to election results was laughed about. They were the professionals who knew what they're talking about, which if you listen to cable news all day is the basic bullshit presumption underlying their whole existence.
“That doesn’t mean they’ll all vote,” they’d say like bratty, jealous schoolchildren taunting on a playground.
These kinds of responses are designed by their adherents to divert the conversation to a place where their narrative remains in control. And these quick comebacks seem readily available and repeated by the media - because they're pre-packaged by DC "think-tanks" who pay marginally bright but highly manipulative people to come up with them and get the stick them, like on a lyric call and response sheet somewhere, which is exactly what the $hills in the Democratic Party did at the DNC convention in Philly in an attempt to drown out more-impassioned Bernie supporters.
But upon thinking about it for even a half moment further it's apparent, like most of their bullshit, that that didn't make sense whatsoever. Not only do most people who attend rallies wind up voting for sure, but they're much more inclined to want to do some of their own canvassing or at least some convincing of their inner circles to vote too. What's more is they'll also probably be more inclined to either donate, volunteer or canvass for the candidate. Attending a rally, I think, is exponentially more likely to not only secure the vote but expand it to others.
It's just one in a slew of examples of how propaganda is spread about so hard and fast to get you to doubt both a sensible and rational truth and your own intuition.
The more we talk about things like this the less power these malicious vipers will have.
As Amy Goodman observed about the 2016 campaign season,
The media played a critical role in creating President-elect Donald Trump. The Tyndall Report, which tracks how much airtime different issues and candidates receive on the major news networks, summarized media coverage of the candidates in 2015. Donald Trump received 327 minutes, or close to one-third of all the campaign coverage, at a time when he had 16 Republican challengers. "ABC World News Tonight" aired 81 minutes of reports on Donald Trump, compared with just 20 seconds for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, according to Tyndall. On March 15, 2016, after the primary day dubbed "Super Tuesday 3," the networks played all the candidates' speeches, except for the speech by Sanders. The networks actually spent more time showing Trump's empty podium, filling the time until he spoke, than playing any words of Sanders', who addressed the largest crowd that night.
Earlier this year, CBS CEO Les Moonves told a Morgan Stanley-hosted media-industry conference, speaking about the volume of political advertising that the "circus" of Trump's campaign was attracting: "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS. ... The money's rolling in." As world-renowned linguist and political dissident Noam Chomsky says, "The media manufacture consent."
(emphasis mine)
From the podium Bernie said,
"We are going to bring a little austerity to the 1%."
One of the best things about Bernie's previous campaign was a reigniting of the Language of Occupy Wall St. And I love that.
The single best line I've ever heard in a presidential campaign was his in 2016 when he said,
"The business model of Wall St is fraud."
Crowd sizes are arbiters. Obama consistently had massive turnouts - and won. Bernie had massive turnouts - and lost. Hillary had miserable, embarrassing turnouts - and won? No, of course she didn't. Which was made evident to the rest of the world what we had been screaming for the two years leading up to the 2016 election - when she fucking lost, again.
Guess this is a just friendly reminder to you Bernie folks: there's already plenty of evidence that the MSM intends to collude, with the DNC and Democratic Party, against a Bernie nomination. Better start warming up that rapid response team together ASAP for when you'll really need it.
"I think all our society is run by insane people for insane objectives… I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal means. If anybody can put on paper what our government and the American government and the Russian… Chinese… what they are actually trying to do, and what they think they’re doing, I’d be very pleased to know what they think they’re doing. I think they’re all insane. But I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it."
John Lennon, from a 1968 interview
Comments
The guy's barnstorming through Cali...but the media's MIA?
I have to confess I haven't had cable tv in years for a very good reason. But in all that I've been perusing this doesn't seem to be getting much notice.
And it should be news (though the fact the campaigns are now starting so early this time makes me nauseous). Because he's getting way bigger crowds than Drumpf does, and probably always will.
The strength of a candidate to pull a crowd is a bellwether.
It's obvious even now that the MSM is so transparent in its intentions.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
If the media dosesn't cover a candidate
does that candidate exist?
That's what their strategy was last time and it will also be this time.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
I don't see the problem.
As Bernie showed us last time: the less the mainstream media outlets like you, the more popular you become.
And that will be especially true now after Russiagate.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
A political opportunity not seen in our lifetimes
that is the subtitle of an article
Bernie Is Not a Wind Sock The Sanders campaign is a political opportunity unlike any we’ve seen in our lifetimes
most politicians are wind socks filled with hot air, or filled with the wind blowing from money
Bernie has had the same message for more than 30 years and the fact that he is already getting record crowds makes it more likely that he will win the nomination and the election
that doesn't mean that we can sit on our hands as noted in this article
I am going to get active with the local Our Revolution effort here in Columbus OH. Since Nina Turner lives here.
Here is a good article showing his powerful staff. This group has a lot more background and like AOC, many of them were energized by the 2016 run for the nomination.
Bernie Sanders Dynamite 2020 Presidential Campaign Staf
As someone asked today in a tweet, now that the Muller report is out, will the democratic party go back and figure out why they lost?
In the mean time, DCCC harming those who challenge incumbents
And Glenn Greenwald retweeted today
https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1110308724474855426
i gotta ask ...
... is that link showing bernie's powerful staff safe for work?
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
My partner, and her granddaughter, made it to three Bernie
rallies in the 2016 season. My work schedule let me make it to one, in Tucson. To think that we would drive hundreds of miles, stand around waiting in line for hours in the desert sun, multiple times, and then go home and not bother to vote is just ludicrous. We not only voted, we registered others to vote, we had the campaign reps at our hours, Taylor ran for a delegate position, didn't get it, but went to Philadelphia, anyway. We were poll volunteers, and I drove people to the polling place. I'd guess that people that went to those rallies were far more likely to do as we did, rather than just go home and not vote at all. I'll bet that everyone there in LA will encourage a few others to vote, on average.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
The media will never acknowledge him. All they will
do is smear him. Bernie will have to win this without the Democrats and the media. If they let people vote and count them, he might have a chance.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
yes, but...
how about that
Kamala?Biden?more about that Iowa poll with Biden slightly ahead of Bernie with Mayor Pete in 3rd. Bernie had 44% of what are described as "millennials", Buttigieg 22%. Naturally that was described (in the article I read) as "trouble for Sanders".
remember when everything was good news for mccain?
this is kinda the anti-matter version of that.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Biden isn't even running
this is what should give us a heads up that the polls are being rigged. Who da hella is even voting for Joe? Maybe people who don't know his history?
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
The Dems keep throwing candidates against the wall to
see who sticks. I saw in WaPo that America is ready for a gay president. They keep looking for the “winning” gimmick, unaware that too many of us are over gimmicks. Obama did that for us.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
I Don't Think You Understand What Voting Means...
Voting isn't some ethically pure endeavor. You don't get to vote for whom you want. It doesn't work that way. You vote the way you're told by the people who tell you these things.
The very idea of people voting for and canvassing for a candidate that actually represents them and works for their interests... I bet you don't even know how hard it is to run a campaign for someone whom people do not want to vote for.
You go to the ballot box with the candidate you're given, not the candidate you want. Grow up and check your privilege.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
Go kiss Hillary's ass
and take your "privilege" with you. I'm sure you will be much happier at TOP.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Did I miss something?
Pretty sure k9 misses the snark tag but what?
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I think you're right
Right about what?
I'm so confused by the happier at top comment.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
right about the bitter snark
Fuck that.
I want an answer.
Saying somebody belongs at top deserves an acknowledgment.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I didn't take it as snark but as trolling
As I just commented below.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Hey, slow down dude...
I've seen enough of k9disc's comments to know that he wouldn't go near Hillary's ass let alone kiss it, nor would he be happier at TOP. Check yourself.
I didn't take it as snark but as trolling
If it was snark I apologize. A little tag at the end would help.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
The others tell me this post was snark
So I'm apologizing for my response. I still don't read it that way, but I don't know you, I have to take their word.
I'm sorry. You pushed a lot of buttons.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Pushing Buttons... Didn't Think I Could Get Much More Snarky
than that and a snark tag would have ruined it. Like acknowledging a pun.
Interesting how fight or flight buttons are so accessible to words. It's almost like magic.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
It’s déjà vu all over again.
What has changed since the 2016 Democratic primary that will prevent a repeat? Has Bernie refused to sign an agreement to support the named nominee, regardless of whether or not his delegates and money are misappropriated? I have seen nothing to suggest that any of the many obstacles put in his way during the 2016 primaries will be any less significant this time around.
I long for the excitement of Obama’s 2008 campaign Hope & Change, but now all that remains is the bitter taste of his Nope & Same governance.
Bernie arrives, a Democratic Socialist with a long history to back it up ends up mugged and robbed, muttering in the gutter “Vote for Her”. Is it a case of the Stockholm Syndrome, or was he a willing participant in an inept bait and switch that resulted in Trump in the White House? I really don’t know.
So please, if there is some reason to believe that things will be different with Bernie 2.0 in 2020, please direct me to it, because at the moment I can not see one at all.
“ …and when we destroy nature, we diminish our capacity to sense the divine,and understand who God is, and what our own potential is and duties are as human beings.- RFK jr. 8/26/2024
Nope
He signed the agreement with the people who stole it from him last time so if he gets robbed again he'll fly around the country again and give a spiel for the candidate who has been installed.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Well done.
You've put in the proper context of a sheep dog.
Trained.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
That's the trouble. As usual. Fraud
and voter suppression.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Just you wait ...
... until Biden enters the race. He'll draw the biggest crowds you ever saw! With a message that includes "cut Social Security", "billionaires are great people", "I've got no empathy for Millennials", and "I can work with our friends the Republicans" he'll draw crowds of MILLIONS.
This is shaping up to be another media blackout for Sanders. My joke in 2016 was that if he won they still wouldn't say his name. "Tonight we bring you a press conference by President ... uh ... what was his name again? We need to get an intern to track down the President's name. In the meantime let's not waste time listening to him and go straight to our panel of corporate lobbyists for their reaction."
The narrative will be set. Everyone will be on board. And then the votes will come in and everyone will be astonished. Gotta be Russia.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
millions
Of dollars, perhaps. People, not so much.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Actually, most folks don't realize it yet, but Biden...
...has consistently had campaign money-raising problems, throughout his career. I'm pretty sure he'll do better this time, assuming he actually enters the race. See: HERE and HERE and HERE.
"Freedom is something that dies unless it's used." --Hunter S. Thompson
And Beto is not helping...
... as many Obama donors have decided to go with the fresh face.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Lennon's quote works for me
Here's my thoughts on what is happening not only here, but worldwide.
Just finished reading this article about how Trump is now part of the team. I don't know why democrats would want him removed from office since he's put corruption on steroids here. From signing the tax bill, increased the military budget and is asking for even more and wanting to gut what pennies that are being thrown our way to his deregulations so that corporate profits can get even bigger..... Seriously what's not to like? Democrats are putting up poor candidates that probably don't have a chance of beating Trump again. They just spent two years on Russia Gate instead of offering people something to vote for. Most of us see what they are and I wish I knew how to wake others up to their game. But looking at ToP and seeing how they keep thinking that democrats will save them is just sad. After so many betrayals you would think they would see through the farce of the democrats being the fake party of opposition, but seeing how they still worship Obama... yeah it's not going to happen.
If they steal the nomination from Bernie again and he doesn't challenge it then that is going to tell us where he really stands on trying to help us wee people.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Why worry, the revolution will not be televised
Hi Mark from Queens, Bernie is not "barnstorming" California he stopped in Los Angeles and San Francisco to raise cash and awareness from our big bigly donors, the ones who gave it up for Her last time.
Bernie's mainstream media is rallies, that's what I think. He goes direct to the audience, with close-up appearances, more like social events except for the boring speeches. Looks like v2.0 is a little different but not much. Voting is still a year away, much time for building NGP's shitty software database. Bay Area sewer hole exists because of them and their sick lobbyists. The Democrats, fuck those guys. I can't contribute to another D-asshole ever again but go on. good luck
have fun
The guy's too modest. Remember the brouhaha confirming the pic
of him chained to the black woman in Chicago at a housing discrimination protest in the early 60's?
To any other candidate (especially considering how politics works, and specifically in this instance the Dems
covetingexpecting the Black vote) such photographic evidence of a presidential candidate's commitment - at such a young age - would have been seen as political gold and shouted from the rooftops relentlessly in myriad ways. Can you imagine if Hillary had done something like that when she was younger?Bernie at first said he couldn't confirm if that was him or not. That's how honest the guy is.
Says something deep about his character. He knows who he is, where he comes from and loathes personal grandstanding. He just works.
Seems the campaign has learned and overruled his modesty by now having him regularly mention his lifelong commitment to Civil Rights more than they did. In a properly functioning media it would have done that work for him, and he would been properly lauded as genuine in that regard by an impartial messenger. But of course we know the MSM is the furthest thing from impartiality.
Back to his barnstorming, apparently while in LA he was also invited to speak at a mosque. He also had a rally of thousands in San Diego. I believe he also stood with striking union workers, though I can't find that at the moment. I'd err on the side of him doing that also, as he's done countless times in the past (what other candidate has done so, not merely speak to an assemblage but stand out in the rain on a picket line?). Oh, here's a clip:
And, can anybody remember any candidate EVER taking it upon himself to use his national platform to host such a genuine event because the media refuses to dignify poor people with allowing them to tell their own stories:
This isn't all to say I am trying to convince anybody to believe in the electoral process, the DNC or the Dems, because I don't.
I'm simply saying (I hope) that this guy is a rare bird. And they're conspiring already to destroy him already, because of his message/these types of events. His message is largely the right one.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
"Can you imagine if Hillary had done something like that,
, when she was younger?"
Well, she was a little busy right then, being a Goldwater Girl.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
Nice story about the LA rally
I've just discovered this young youtuber. He calls his channel "the new left".
The first clip is almost 30 min on the rally...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-MWC0sJooE]
I loved their take on Tulsi too.
He isn't naive about voting either...(15 min)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdG6oyjV2Qk]
I had hoped someone would cover Bernie's big crowds. Thanks, Mark.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Great videos, Lookout!
A young "Jimmy Dore!", lol! I love the show. I love the millennials - they are going for it and should! They were spot on with Tulsi. I'd love a Bernie/Tulsi ticket. Quien Sabe?
Have a good one!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
I think they may catch on like Jimmy
They have a good perspective. The young folks are the hope. Glad you liked them.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Bernie/Tulsi
sounds good, domestic issues guy with progressive foreign policy woman. Tulsi might be on his VP list.
But I think it would be Liz Warren. Possibly Kamala. He's already indicated it will be a woman. Tulsi or Kamala would bring him some youth. But as for personal and political comfort level, Liz has the edge.
It's more than a year off ...
... but it's fun to speculate. Bernie comes up short of 2026 delegates on the first ballot. The super delegates swoop in on the second ballot, but deadlock between Harris and O'Rourke. On the third ballot Sanders forms an alliance with ... someone who has enough delegates ... and nominates him/her as VP.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone