Tuesday Open Thread ~~ Read Your Mind
One solution to resolving the paradox that our minds are both our curse yet also our potential salvation is through conscious change.
"A credibility trap is when the regulatory, political and/or informational functions of a society have been so thoroughly compromised by a corrupting influence and a fraud that they cannot address the situation without implicating, at least incidentally, a broad swath of their own power structure."
Goodness is morning. Another chance to live a life worth fighting for. Screaming at the sky, shaking the fist at authority, even if it's only at a stop sign. Hell, who knows? There is so much out there. Maybe it will yield. Recommended action today: give support to anything appearing positive. Time will dissolve the rest.
On another note, tomorrow is the 175th anniversary of the Dominican Independence. ???
Where do we go from here? Self reflection. Opening a channel for y'all to express your passions. Gopher it.
Side note -- Zoebear has tentatively accepted the task of helping me on this thread every other week. Something to share. Yeah !! If anyone else wants to give it a shot, let us know. Mix it up!
Credits ~~~
Quote 1 An extrusion from Paul Ehrlich 'New World New Mind'
Brain pic from Caitlin -- How to Wake Up
Quote 2 From Jesse at Cafe American
Urban Buddha Linda Woods via fineartamerica.com--architecture
Comments
Morning all
off to the salt mines today, so y'all can pick up the ball and run with it. back later
cheers
"I don't want to live here no more"
Thanks for the catchy tunes.
Storm to hit Santa Rosa with up to 5 inches of rain
The first photo over there is of "Justin", our brother trying to stay dry in Healdsburg.
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Either some flu bug caught me, or the jawbone problem migrated, I don't know and there is not enough money to find out right now, maybe later. The tooth feels better, because other things feel worse. LOL This fell out of the lint trap, listening to the actual words makes a big WTF? sound in my head, but it's a snappy tune. The battery on my digital thermometer is dead. symbolism ftw It's okay I feel better now.
Peggy Lee - Fever
Have great days
namaste
PEACE
Feevah
You know something just ain't right when one must work beyond retirement age just to pay the medical bills. Hope the fever aches subside.
Mind over matter
fever yay I burn forsooth
...
chicks were born to give you fever
...
fever til you sizzle
what a lovely way to burn
Dang that ear worm won't stop. Why do I only ever get same two ads from youtube? One to quit smoking cigarettes and the other to drink gatorade, two products I haven't touched since before youtube even existed. dumb tv
What's the pay rate for salt mining nowadays? "The more you make, the more they take" for the future when salt mining is no longer an option.
good wages for all
keep dreaming
cheers
" We've run into a yuuuuge problem."
https://berniesanders.com/issues/medicare-for-all/
Is it on fb or twitter only, is that why I cannot find the plan he is running on? sry Disenfranchisement through social media, huh now that's a thought. never mind
peace
that's all there is beside the main page
donate and give your name
and 404 but also you can donate on this page... no idea. seriously, enough already. I get that they need money and an army of volunteers. but I put my name back on the list so I could get the emails but all I am getting is asks... donate, volunteer...
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I will certainly look forward to Tuesdays with you and zoebear!
Ditto to HAW's sentiment - we need
all the well-grounded and fact-based analysis we can get, considering what's at stake in 2020.
So, zoebear will be a great addition to the Tuesday OT lineup!
As things are shaking out, expect to become an early morning poster (soon), as opposed to a night owl (usually pulling the swing shift), so hope to join the C99 early birds.
Thank you for so capably holding down the fort on Tuesdays, OMS!
Blue Onyx
“I think dogs are the most amazing creatures; they give unconditional love. For me they are the role model for being alive.”
~~Gilda Radner, Comedienne
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Thanks to both of you
For your vote of confidence
I hope I will come up with some engaging material that will spark some interesting dialogue. I will probably write about non-political things in this open thread though.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Good morning, zoebear and welcome to the club. Good wishes
for your new role. The big thing is to enjoy it.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks EL
That's very kind of you. I'm hoping to both enjoy hosting an open thread as well as discipline myself in improving my writing. Fingers crossed on the latter!
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Whatever you write about, I'm sure I want to read it.
Each of our morning threads is different from the others and each is wonderful in its own way. I knows that yours will be wonderful in its own way as well.
Good mornng, QMS. Raining here, but warmer than of late.
The mind wanders as we creep toward another election season and the frightful noise and non-stop bullshit that such entail. Making lentil soup with kale today, so not too much time will be devoted to cooking, so how to spend yet another rainy day? Yesterday was a day off from scribbling, so maybe back to that, and the endless search for the perfect travel hat? It has occurred to me that I could easily fill the day by simply listing all the tasks and projects that I choose not to do or start today, heh. A morning full of promise is not to be wasted, so I'd better have more coffee.
Meanwhile, off to work you go. Do have a great day and thanks for the tunes.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Enjoyed your opening quote
And oddly enough it encapsulates a theme I'm working on for a possible topic. Thanks for the shout out
Have a great day everyone!
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Memes of the day
Isn't it weird that Bernie's M4A site is 404?
https://berniesanders.com/medicareforall
My browser goes to 404 every time, and the only two sites blocked here are facebook and twitter. That's why I poked the open thread today, the page says "we have a yuuuuuge problem" and the only option is to donate money? For what now? I hope the CNN town hall audience isn't finding the same search results. hello
How about
WE CAN: create and update a simple text page containing information with links.
WE CAN: propose a law to debate the merits in public. RIP HR 676
WE CAN: avoid billionaire rentier platforms that insist upon sign-up so they can track, aggregate, and sell all the citizen's PII (Personally Identifiable Information).
Probably it is just a fever dream, where functionally humane systems exist for people before profits. I guess it depends a lot which class you're in, which club. I already have Medicare, am selfishly wanting some cheap dental services, not more wealthy health insurance CEOs. I never worked enough and suicide is illegal, now what? oh well shrug wait for the next election? okie dokie
good luck
Good morning, eyo, wish I had some decent suggestions.
It used to be that there were some dental schools that would give customers a break on some treatments. Dunno if that is still the case or how far you'd have to go to find one. Dental insurance, from what I've heard is mostly overpriced and provides mediocre coverage. Some in the profession say that dealing with the insurance companies is such a PITA and time suck that their rates could go down if they simply refused to accept any, but too many of their existing clients have some. I'm 72 and have had excellent teeth almost my entire life, though I had a couple broken in accidents and such. Total lifetime I've spent a few grand on cash-and-carry dental work, and saved a small fortune because I could never find a dental plan that would even come up to 75% break-even on routine annual preventive care.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Not sure if this will work
Copied this last year on Sanders M4A policy statement
It's a bit long in the tooth....
OPTIONS TO FINANCE MEDICARE FOR ALL
Introduction
Today, the United States spends more than $3.2 trillion a year on health care. About sixty-five
percent of this funding, over $2 trillion, is spent on publicly financed health care programs such
as Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. At $10,000 per person, the United States spends far
more on health care per capita and as a percentage of GDP than any other country on earth in
both the public and private sectors while still leaving 28 million Americans uninsured and
millions more under-insured.
Today, health care spending in the U.S. accounts for nearly 18 percent of our Gross Domestic
Product (GDP) and is on track to total over 20 percent of GDP over the next decade. It is
projected that if we do nothing and maintain our current dysfunctional system that we will spend
$49 trillion over the next decade on health care. That would be an incredible burden on
businesses, working families, and the entire economy.
The most cost-effective and popular solution to this health care crisis is to guarantee health care
as a right through a Medicare-for-all single-payer health care system.
Today, the traditional Medicare program only spends two percent of its costs on
administration. That’s less than one-sixth the administrative costs of private health insurance
companies.
Studies have found that our federal government could save up to $500 billion per year on
administrative costs by moving to a Medicare for All, single-payer health care system.
Moreover, the United States pays, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs
because Congress has done nothing to regulate the price of medicine. If the U.S. joined the rest
of the industrialized world and negotiated with the pharmaceutical companies to lower prices,
our country could save up to $113 billion per year.
As the wealthiest country in the world, we have a variety of options available to support a
Medicare for All single-payer health care system that guarantees high quality, affordable health
care as a right, not a privilege, to every man, woman, and child in this country. This paper
explains just some of the policies that could provide revenue to finance Medicare for All. Under
every single one of these options the average American family will save thousands of dollars a
year because they will no longer be writing large checks to private health insurance companies.
If every major industrialized nation on Earth can make health care a right, provide universal
coverage to all, achieve far better health outcomes in terms of life expectancy and infant
mortality, while spending far less per capita than we do, it is absurd to suggest the United States
of America, the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, cannot do the same.
In my view, there needs to be vigorous debate as to the best way to finance our Medicare for All
legislation. Unlike the Republican leadership in Congress which held no hearings on their
disastrous bill which would have thrown 32 million off of health insurance and dealt with onesixth
of the American economy, it is our intention to get the best ideas we can from economists,
doctors, nurses, and ordinary Americans. Below are a number of options to begin that
discussion. Under each and every one of these options the average American family will end up
in a better financial position than they are under the current system.
Options to Save Families and Businesses on Health Care Expenses
7.5 percent income-based premium paid by employers
Revenue raised: $3.9 trillion over ten years.
Businesses would save over $9,000 in health care costs for the average employee under this
option
In 2016, employers paid an average of $12,865 in private health insurance premiums for a
worker with a family of four who makes $50,000 a year. Under this option, employers would
pay a 7.5 percent payroll tax to help finance Medicare for All – just $3,750 – a savings of more
than $9,000 a year for that employee.
During the four-year transition period to guarantee health care as a right, millions of workers will
have the option to transfer from their employer-provided health care to the new Medicare for All
system. As workers shift into the new system, employers will be required to pay either 75
percent of what they are currently paying for health care costs for each of their employees who
enroll in Medicare for All, or the 7.5 percent payroll tax, whichever is higher.
An employer’s first $2 million in payroll would be exempt from this premium protecting small
businesses throughout the country.
4 percent income-based premium paid by households
Revenue raised: $3.5 trillion over ten years.
The typical middle class family would save over $4,400 under this plan.
Last year the typical working family paid an average of $5,277 in premiums to private health
insurance companies. Under this option, a typical family of four earning $50,000, after taking
the standard deduction, would pay a 4 percent income-based premium to fund Medicare for All –
just $844 a year – saving that family over $4,400 a year. Because of the standard deduction,
families of four making less than $29,000 a year would not pay this premium.
Savings from Health Tax Expenditures
Revenue raised: $4.2 trillion over ten years.
Several tax breaks that subsidize health care would become obsolete and disappear under
Medicare for All. The biggest health expenditure is the preference that excludes employer-paid
premiums from payroll and income taxes. This is a significant tax break that would be
eliminated under this plan because all Americans would receive health care through the new
Medicare for All program instead of employer-based health care. The exclusion for
contributions to cafeteria plans and the medical expense deduction will also be eliminated.
Options to Make the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share
Make the Personal Income Tax More Progressive
Revenue raised: $1.8 trillion over ten years.
Another option is to reform the personal income tax system by strengthening progressive income
tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as work income, limiting deductions for the
wealthy, taxing carried interest as ordinary income, and requiring derivatives to be marked to
market.
o Progressive income tax rates.
Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:
§ 40 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
§ 45 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
§ 50 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2014, only 136,000
households, the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10
million.)
§ 52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2014, only 16,700 households, just 0.02
percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)
o Taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work.
Warren Buffett, the second-wealthiest American in the country, has said that he pays a
lower effective tax rate than his secretary. This is because he receives most of his income
from capital gains and dividends, which are taxed at a much lower rate than income from
work. This option would end the special tax break for capital gains and dividends on
household income above $250,000, treating this income the same as income earned from
working.
Taxing all income received by the rich at the same rates would simplify the tax code and
eliminate the opportunities to game the system by making other types of income appear
to be capital gains or dividends. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that 68
percent of the benefits of the special income tax rates for capital gains and dividends
went to the richest one percent of Americans in 2013.
o Limit tax deductions for the wealthy.
Wealthier households are able to take advantage of various itemized deductions that
generally do not provide any benefit to lower income workers. Under this proposal,
itemized deductions would be capped at 28 percent for households making over
$250,000. In other words, for every dollar in tax deduction a high-income household
could save at most 28 cents. This limit would replace more complicated and less
effective limits on tax breaks for the rich.
Make the Estate Tax More Progressive
Revenue raised: $249 billion over ten years.
Currently the estate tax only applies to the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans. In other words,
99.8 percent are not impacted by this tax. Under this option, the estate tax would return to the
exemptions that were in effect in 2009 and rates would be made more progressive. Specifically,
the plan would exempt the first $3.5 million of a single person’s estate and the first $7 million of
a married couple’s estate.
The existing flat 40 percent estate tax rate would be replaced with the following progressive
rates:
o 45 percent for the value of an estate between $3.5 million and $10 million.
o 50 percent for the value of an estate between $10 million and $50 million.
o 55 percent for the value of an estate in excess of $50 million.
o An additional 10 percent surtax would apply to estate value in excess of $500 million
($1 billion for married couples).
Further, the proposal:
o Closes loopholes for “grantor retained annuity trusts” (GRATs) and other types of
trusts and valuation techniques that have allowed the Walton family of Wal-Mart and
other billionaires to save over $100 billion in taxes since 2000; and
o Increases existing protections for farmland and conservation.
Establish a Wealth Tax on the Top 0.1 percent
Revenue raised: $1.3 trillion over ten years.
Over the past several decades America has experienced an explosion of wealth
concentration. Today the wealthiest 0.1 percent – just 160,000 households – own nearly the same
amount of wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Meanwhile, a report from the Institute on Policy
Studies concludes that America’s 20 richest individuals now own more wealth than the entire
bottom half of the American population.
This severe inequality threatens to warp our democracy by concentrating too much power in the
hands of a tiny elite. It also holds back our economy, funneling resources to a few families rather
than creating the broad base of middle-class consumers that can drive economic growth.
This option would establish an annual 1 percent federal wealth tax on the net worth of the
wealthiest 0.1 percent of U.S. households. The tax would apply to net worth exceeding $21
million for a household. That means a household with $21.5 million would pay 1 percent of
$500,000, or $5,000.
Close the Gingrich-Edwards Loophole and Create Parity for Wealthy Business Owners
Revenue raised: $247 billion over ten years.
This option closes the Gingrich-Edwards loophole which allows individuals who own and run an
S-Corporation to game the system and avoid paying payroll taxes by claiming some income as
business profits. Under current law, these business owners are required to report a “reasonable”
amount of salary income and pay the appropriate amount of payroll tax. However, many times
these individuals deliberately under-report a reasonable salary in order to avoid these taxes.
Additionally, this option would ensure that all business income of high-income people would be
subject to the existing 3.8 percent tax to fund Medicare, either through the net investment income
tax or the additional Medicare tax on earned income. These taxes were designed to ensure that
high-income people pay the 3.8 percent Medicare tax on all income, regardless of the
source. However, some business income slips through the crack and is not subject to either tax.
This proposal would close that loophole.
Options to Make Wall Street and Large, Profitable Corporation Pay Their Fair Share
Impose a one-time tax on currently held offshore profits
Revenue raised: $767 billion over ten years.
For years corporations have been avoiding paying their fair share of taxes by stashing their cash
in the Cayman Islands and other offshore tax havens where there is no corporate income tax
rate. This situation has become so absurd that one five-story office building in the Cayman
Islands is the “home” to close to 20,000 companies.
Today corporations hold a staggering $2.6 trillion offshore in order to avoid paying taxes in the
U.S. Under current law, a corporation does not pay corporate taxes on these profits until it
sends, or “repatriates”, the money back to the U.S. This option would require these companies to
pay a one-time tax now, based on what they owe under current law.
Impose a Fee on Large Financial Institutions
Revenue raised: $117 billion over ten years.
Today, the six major financial institutions in this country have over $10 trillion in assets,
equivalent to 56 percent of our entire GDP. The largest financial institution, JP Morgan Chase,
has received more than $22.2 billion in tax breaks since 2008. Meanwhile, during the financial
crisis, JP Morgan Chase received a $391 billion bailout from the Federal Reserve. It is time that
Wall Street start paying its fair share in taxes. One option would be to impose a fee of seven
basis points (.07 percent) on covered liabilities of financial institutions with $50 billion or more
in total assets, as proposed by President Obama.
Repeal Corporate Accounting Gimmicks
Revenue raised: $112 billion ten years.
This option would eliminate the “last-in, first-out” (LIFO) accounting method that allows
corporations to manipulate their inventory and make it appear like they have lower profits. They
do this by deducting the higher cost of newer inventory, rather than the lower cost of older
inventory, resulting in lower profits and lower taxes. Democrats and Republicans have both
supported repealing LIFO in various budget and tax reform proposals.
Bernie last night
What did folks think of Bernie's townhall on CNN (Corrupt News Network) last night? To me it seemed very staged and a stacked deck. One questioner was a lobbyist firm intern. Wonder where she got her question. It was as if all the questions were written by lobbyists, oppo research, Neera, Brockroach, Peter Douche, Hillary, etc... Bernie handled it mostly very well save a bit of fumbling on Russia and Venezuela. They threw grenades for an hour and he caught all of them for the most part. Lots of Chardonnay consumed by some mean old hag loser in N.Y. methinks.
I gotta fly, but will be back later to see what folks thought...
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Oh, I think she was hitting the Jagermeister
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Word from Goldwyn, who isn't a President, but
played one on TV, is that martinis are Hillary's choice of beverage. Goldwyn had accompanied Hillary on her campaign bus or plane for a time.
Apparently, Goldwyn had said something about Hillary's boozing to Andy cohen (Bravo TV) before Cohen's show started; and Cohen caught him off guard on air by insisting that Goldwyn tell the audience what he (Goldwyn) had told Cohen earlier about Hillary that had surprised Goldwyn.
Goldwyn, stammering a little, and probably rephrasing what he had told Cohen in private, said he had been surprised by how much Hillary enjoyed a martini at the the end of the day.
See? I've watched Bravo for years now; and I learned that after the 2016 election. So, the people who say you can't learn anything from watching Bravo are wrong. Not wrong by much, of course, but still..... (-;
A Martini?
THAT'S MY DRINK!!! NO!!
She shouldn't be drinking martinis. The martini, after all, is just too elegant for her. Let her stick with Boilermakers. It fits better.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
So, my teeth are a mess... have been a mess
And I'm finally going to the dentist today at noon. Already been out to my therapist, who picked TODAY to cancel sick... ugh. I know it'll be ugly.
Best case scenario, I leave with a painful mouth and a few teeth fixed. Worst case, I leave with a painful mouth and a few teeth missing. Either way, same result as NOW, just it will heal later.
I admit I have great fear of dentists, because I've had bad ones. This one's good, for what it's worth.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
afternoon q...
and all.
no rain here. we are at the south end of the storm. maybe soon. downgraded many times since yesterday. very windy. big waves.
windy.com
killary entering the race, imho, is to water the votes down more. politics at its best. as usual. in the meantime 'we' are planning to invade Venezuela, a sovereign country. if you have not already, check out Abby Martin's interview with the UN rapporteur (UN investigator for human rights) who wrote 13 reports on human rights in Venezuela. best analysis so far. mind boggling.
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ethics in science cartoon competition
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Thank you for this, ur
I like the power and simplicity of two, although most were quite effective. I would choose either ‘Discussing CRISPR’, or the ‘Gates Foundation’.
CRISPR, because it so clearly and simply reflects how unnatural and superficial our culture has become; and GF for how accurately it describes how things operate between corporations and our future.
'conscious change'
Well, that's a novel solution ; ).
Thank you QMS, for your consistent devotion to conscious change.
And looking forward to your contributions, zoe.
Thanks Janis
Not novel, but packed with potential. Being mindful presumes a certain presence of mind. Steering the future in your mind requires a conscious decision to see things better, in a more positive light. What was trying to be be described, there, then and now. You know...
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