Joe Biden's "give me a break." UPDATED

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https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-says-millennials-dont-have-it-tough-7...

Biden Doesn't Want to Hear Millennials Complain: 'Give Me a Break'

Arguably this statement says more about politics today than anything you'll ever read in Newsweek, or for that matter Time Magazine or the online newspapers. Does Joe Biden not know of the generational wealth gap or of abrupt climate change?

And this is the guy who will run for President and who would have run for President if he'd bothered to wake up about the Hillary Clinton disaster in the making. I expect Biden opponents to use this as cannon fodder.

UPDATED: also see Vice: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbpxx8/biden-trashes-millennials-in-h...

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Cassiodorus's picture

“There's an old expression my philosophy professor would always use from Plato,” said Biden. “‘The penalty people face for not being involved in politics is being governed by people worse than themselves.’

A compelling reason not to vote for him! At any rate, the main reason Biden didn't run in 2016 is because his son died. So 2020 might happen.

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

@Cassiodorus
Progressives prefer Biden to Sanders in hypothetical 2020 Trump matchup, new poll shows

Since Biden is not a progressive and doesn't claim to be one, this seems extremely unlikely.
But when I click on the links, none of them take me to a breakdown of who was polled and how were the questions worded.
"Just trust us".

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@gjohnsit they're making stuff up.

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

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@Cassiodorus [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwhAq3F8NCE]

Couldn't resist, Sorry.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

@Cassiodorus link

Word of Barack Obama’s mid-November meeting with Beto O’Rourke cheered the millions of O’Rourke fans who want the Texas congressman to run for president in 2020. And it delighted the political pundit-verse, which is always hungry for new gossip and intrigue. Joe Biden, however, is said to have been less than thrilled. Obamaworld insiders describe the former vice president as upset—not specifically by Obama’s conversation with O’Rourke, but by the former president’s willingness to talk to other plausible Democratic contenders while Biden is still deciding whether to run himself. “This is unequivocally false. Period,” Biden spokesman Bill Russo says. So just how does Biden feel about his ex-boss chatting with potential primary rivals? “I’m not going to comment further,” Russo replies.
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@gjohnsit

The early debates and primaries will separate the two.

A Democratic state lawmaker who asked to remain anonymous said that at this early stage in the 2020 race, “it's fine” to have an abundance of progressive contenders: “There will be a winnowing out process based on ideas and personalities and ability to convey a progressive message, and on progressive credentials.”

And in a warning to more moderate potential Democratic presidential contenders who may try to grab the progressive mantle, the lawmaker spotlighted that “these days everyone claims to be a progressive. And that’s simply not true. And people like me resent that re-packaging of people. It’s offensive.” Link

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A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

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@Cassiodorus
Well he sure as Hell oughta know.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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Poll: Biden, Sanders Ahead Of Winfrey In 2020 Dem Bid on the left sidebar.

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I don't think millennials want to be lectured by a rich, old, out of touch career politician who helped buoy up Wall St when they were crashing and burning.

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@Snode
and guarantee them a lifetime of debt slavery to overwhelming student loans and credit card debt.

Gropin' uncle Joe must be loopy in the head.

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by employer pigs. Why? Unless you have a drivers' license or passport, or every single piece of paper from the educrat* collaborators, you're fucked. Hell, you're fucked even if you do. I have several pieces of paper from the educrats and employer pigs still said it wasn't good enough.

*teachers are not educrats, in fact, teachers are in the same boat as the rest of us.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

k9disc's picture

difference:

“Here’s the deal, guys,” continued Biden. “We decided we were going to change the world, and we did.”

Asshole.

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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Back when you were millenials' age, political campaigns only cost a few thousand dollars.

You should totally be able to do your own knocking on doors and phone banking. I mean, that's what it's all about isn't it? Really you just need more people involved, at least that's what you keep telling us.

So no, You don't get to talk about how much money you need. No, you don't get to tell me that Trump is an existential threat. Back in the old days you had to actually have a POSITION, and from what I can tell, you could never move the world despite having the universe's largest lever. Because as far as positions go, you have NO FIRM PLACE TO STAND.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

Crapping all over anyone outside the bubble worked biggly for HER. Glad to see Creepy Uncle Joe took notes.

EDIT: This isn’t the first time he’s said something like this, is it? I seem to recall him shooting off some similar “millennials need to stop complaining, we had it so much worse” type of comment in the last year or so. I’m sure the true believers will say it’s just another of those charming Biden gaffes but I’m not a fan of calling someone saying what they feel a “gaffe” just because it’s tone deaf and wrong.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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Future.

Seriously. They're working to lose. Why?

Article V answers it.

Either that or they're working to become Republicans for a new political realignment. And they'll take all the New Reagan Democrats that Max Boot and Bill Kristol created with them.

Insanity!

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“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020

Asshole.
To paraphrase a 60's slogan: "He's the parent who warned everyone against us".
He's the person who Creedence wrote Fortunate Son about.
He's another member of the bone-spur class.

I still say the Donorcrats just want to make enough of a showing to keep the money rolling in. Fuck the people.

The Power learned its lessons in the 60s, one of which is to keep the people stressed and desperate and insecure. In the 60s, (to overgeneralize) homelessness was an option, work was abundant, and economic fear was low. At least for whites. They ain't gonna let THAT happen again!

But NEVER UNDERESTIMATE the terror of the draft. Think of it: at the discretion of your local Selective Service board (who could select any man they wanted, like antiwar guys they didn't like), men could be dragged from their home, ritually disfigured and humiliated, brainwashed, and sent into combat across the world. There's a backdoor draft now, where economic pressure leads people to choose the King's shilling, and where the National Guard was in Iraq instead of Katrina-ed New Orleans, but it's not the same as being subject to the state terrorism of the "peacetime" draft. The draft led to blowing up buildings, blocking trains and highways, mass demos everywhere, generational rage. They're much subtler now. Don't draft 'em, squeeze 'em.

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@pindar's revenge for the forthcoming movie on Vietnam-era draft resistance to come out. Then they can really drive people into the clutches of the Republican Party.

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

@Cassiodorus
"Draft resistance was classified a felony that could result in up to five years in prison, and over 3,000 men were jailed as a result. "
Burning your draft card was a felony. I got stopped by a cop one night who threatened to arrest me for not carrying my draft card. "Papers, dammit!"

I gave 'em hell when I registered, argued for hours about stupid questions on the form, while carving the number of the American Friends Service Committee onto the table. A guy in the neighborhood told them if he were drafted he wouldn't fight, he'd surrender to the first enemy he saw, and tell them everything he knew. Sometimes opposition worked, sometimes it got you selected.
And then there were those like that old acidhead rockstar "Journey-to-the-center-of-your-mind" Nugent who shit his pants to get out, who now lives in wingnut machine-gun fantasies. And the bone-spur class who had connections, like Bush II, to get them out.

We faced a lot of hell then, but it seemed like there was a dawn coming, there was a lot of optimism. I feel awful for what millenials have to face now on all fronts, economic, environmental, political - a grim future, without the rose-tinted glasses.

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@Cassiodorus about all the elite that just couldn't pass the physical, who had connected parents or had better things to do.

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