Viva la Revolucion!


Mexico Revolution Day
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Amilliano Zapata
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Today marks the historical beginning of the the Mexican Revolution which began in 1910 and lasted about 10 years. An example of the people rising up against a dictatorial ruler, with many twists and turns, eventually bringing a better form of social justice thru a new constitution... the constitution of 1917, which conferred dictatorial powers on the president but gave the government the right to confiscate land from wealthy landowners, guaranteed workers’ rights, and limited the rights of the Roman Catholic Church. But then, the revolution committed the resulting political regime with "social justice", until Mexico underwent a neoliberal reform process that started in the 1980s (US and UK also). Let's hope AMLO continues the fight.

(Re) written history varies. One consequence of this peoples revolution, was a concurrent uprising in countries to the south of Mexico during that decade. Paraguay, Ecuador, Honduras, Argentina and Chile all saw peoples upheavals. To say nothing about Russia. Odd the CIA has taken such an interest in their civil affairs?

The practice of having a national parade for this occasion has recently changed. Too many demonstrations have forced the authorities to alter the schedule. It is left to the various states now with a dispersed resistance as consequence.

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The revolutionary leaders of 1910 including Pancho Villa (#10), Francisco Madero (#5) & José Venustiano Carranza Garza (#3)

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Which brings to mind more folks demonstrating against the imperial boot. Tianamin Square, Arab Spring, BLM, DAPL and Occupy have similar roots.

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If anyone has a Mexican Revolution song to post or a quotable, that would be great. Take a Tequila and hide a cactus under your sombrero. Viva La Revolution!

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Credits...
http://www.bajainsider.com/article/revolution-day-mexico-november-20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_Day_(Mexico)
https://www.britannica.com/place/Latin-America/New-order-emerging-1910-4...
https://www.inside-mexico.com/november-20/

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https://www.france24.com/en/20181116-france-yellow-vest-diesel-tax-prote...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/17/thousands-gather-to-...

People who don’t want higher gas prices versus people who want to catalyze radical societal response to climate change. Class conflict. Civil war?

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It’s been almost 30 years since East Germany’s peaceful revolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_Revolution

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The Last Resort — The Eagles

In light of recent events, the song’s reference to Malibu and “paradise” give me a bit of an eerie tingle.

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a powerful vid set to a prescient song.

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My diagnosis of Trump is extreme narcissism. Narcissism often comes from narcissistic parents who didn't get unconditional love when they were kids. When these parents have kids they can suddenly demand the attention that was never given to them as kids and the kids, needing unconditional love of their own have to cater to their parent's needs. This means they never feel good about themselves and are always looking for reassurance that they are ok people. When they have kids the cycle repeats. Trump's dad was an asshole narcissist as are Trump's kids. Therapy would be of great help to Trump.

That has nothing to do with my science background. It comes from what I learned from looking for answers about myself. Maybe it's full of crap.

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My favorite Mexican restaurant was a dive in Detroit across from Belle Isle. It had a picture of Pancho Villa displayed prominently. The owner was a Mexican who had a wife and family in Mexico, and a wife and family in the US. We drove 70 miles round trip to eat there because we loved the place. We were so very sorry to see it close. Eventually, Armando retired in Mexico. Not sure how he worked out his families.

Off shopping for Thanksgiving in a few. I'm making the lasagna, my husband has the turkey and gravy, my daughter and her husband have the desert and everything else. Grandson from Sweden is in. Looking forward to seeing him and his brothers.

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@dkmich Once you've had the real thing, all else is imitation. Spent many moons in old Mexico. Simple fare served up right. Cheers!

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We used to go to playa del Carmen when it was a small fishing village. Loved it so much we thought about buying a condo. We looked at a beautiful condo on the beach that was selling for 120K at the time. We didn't buy it because of all the issues with non-Mexicans buying land in Mexico. Froman investment pov, it was a big mistake. playa del Carmen has turned into a booming beach town and everything is worth 10x as much. Still, we have many fond memories of the place that used to be.

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@dkmich
Was based in Tampico and spent time-off around and down -- Veracruz, Merida, Cancun and places south down to Belize. That was before the 'Mexican Riviera' was developed. Tulum was a favorite. The Mayan people are great. Yeah, if I had a dime for every dream, I wouldn't be as poor!

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The Caribbean side is our favorite too. Tulum yes definitely, could just see the virgins being forced over the cliff into the ocean. Did not like Cozumel & Sian Kaan is literally for the birds. Costa Rica ain't half bad either she says as she sits in Michigan in the middle of ice and snow.

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Thank you for the OT and the brief history lesson. I wonder how we bring real history alive and make it as popular as shopping on black friday or attending a megachurch.

There is a beautiful song based on a Mexican or Central American myth called La Llorona. It has a variety of interpretations but in seems to be based on a female deity or ghost. According to Wikipedia, the singer Lila Downs interprets the song as being about the demise of indigenous culture after the Spanish invasion. There are however, a whole variety of interpretations.

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because of the amazing Chavela Vargas and the added dimension of Frida Kahlo's art.

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@randtntx
Especially enjoy the Tish Hinojosa version. Sorrowful and smooth.

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@randtntx
thoughts of her affair with Trotsky, establishing something of a revolutionary continuum.

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@enhydra lutris you could say they ran with the progressive crowd. Diego Rivera and his murals, his membership in the Mexican communist party, and his atheism all point to that.

Kahlo I think married Rivera, but both, it seems, had other affairs.

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and...I just noticed you led off with him. Clearly I haven't had enough coffee to be reading politics or history yet.

But two salutes to Zapata are better than one, I guess.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
From Zapata. Many thanks! It succinctly evokes the spirit of the revolucion. Viva!

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal  
I seem to recall a time when I was inspired by a movement of people calling themselves Zapatistas and a figure calling himself Subcomandante Marcos.

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@lotlizard
Continuing his legacy in Chiapas

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/feb/17/mexico-zapati...

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@lotlizard They are still there. One of the few bright spots humanity has left. They and the Bolivians.

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--Q

Keep pushing the door open. Light the corners till the melt.
--Magiamma

Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

. . . but it was so long ago that my memory is a bit hazy. But I remember that it had several distinct phases, like the French Revolution.

The first phase, that overthrew the dictator Porfirio Diaz, was a mild, largely middle-class thing. There was no attempt to change the social order, other than giving middle and upper-middle class people some measure of participation in the existing governmental system. But it made people see that change was possible, so it led to the subsequent phases.

Pancho Villa and Emiliano Zapata came during a later phase, in different parts of Mexico -- Villa in the northwest, and Zapata in the southeast. I don't think Villa was ideological in any significant way, but Zapata was very much intent on changing the social order. When Mexicans today talk about the ideals of the Revolution, most importantly land reform, the breaking up and redistributing of large estates to the people, they're talking about Zapata's ideas.

And I'm sure nobody here will be shocked to hear that the Hollywood Zapata movie (with Marlon Brando and Anthony Quinn) was a shameful, distorted and slanderous POS.

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on cafe' numero uno and need something to get the blood moving, so, ask and you shall recieve:

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A 30-30 carbine is a helluva gun amigo. An early version of a hand held cannon!

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@QMS
and the weapon of choice for hunting wild boar in the Anderson Valley area way back when.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

In some photos from the Mexican Revolution, you can see banners with the hammer and sickle. This symbol represents the uniting of industrial and agricultural labor. Now generally associated (at least in the American mind) with Bolsheviks in the Russian Revolution, it actually predates the RR by many, many years.

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This is an important continuation of the story. During that time, there were many socialist movements based on workers rights which were crushed by capitalists world wide. How socialistic ideals morphed into the communist boogie man indicates the depth of the threats felt by the hegemony. The misinformation tactics still in use came from the same playbook, it seems. Now we have the Capitalists Intervention Association (CIA) doing the dirty work.

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One of my favorite all time quotes I have repeated thousands of times, some aloud to others, and at other times silently to myself, is typically cited as being from Zapata. Which I thought was Emilliano? The quote is often seen in hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurants on a picture of Zapata. Often in Spanish. "It is better to die on my feet than to live on my knees." It has been one of the mantras of my life choices. He is a hero to me.

I did a few birding trips in western Mexico when a kid. Loved it, the people, the places, it was absolutely wonderful and fantastic. Still addicted to the food...

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@dystopian
Great quote, thanks. Sorry about the spelling. What I get now is:
Emiliano Zapata Salazar

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@magiamma
Gracias amiga. This penetrating question is still pertinent...

What will constitute acceptable solutions for peoples throughout the world made refugees through similar violence perpetrated by governments reportedly representing them?

Long live la revolucion

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@magiamma Wow. Talk about not giving up.

Guatemala got butchered in the 1980s.

Saying I'm impressed is inadequate...

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--Jose Marti

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I used to work for a woman whose mom was kidnapped and taken to Mexico by Pancho Villa back in the day. She was a funny woman, but don't work for her!

Have a beautiful day, everyone! Pleasantry

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"If there is not justice for the people, let there be no peace for the government." Emiliano Zapata

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@Raggedy Ann
Love your tagline!

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@QMS
I love those words and they need to be seen, read, and heard far and wide!
Enjoy!

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mantene vivente

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@QMS
Gracias por el OT y disfruta de las vacaciones!

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@Raggedy Ann
my song association reflex, sorry Wink

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Lol

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"If there is not justice for the people, let there be no peace for the government." Emiliano Zapata

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singing his song "Farewell Francisco Madero" (5 min)

Valladolid was "La Crispa" the spark of the revolution in 1910 when the people had it and rose up against their overlords.
http://yucatantoday.com/first-spark-mexican-revolution/?lang=en
It is also a great place to visit near Chichen Itza and other maya ruins, with impressive art and beautiful cenotes.

Might take a revolution here to move things forward too. Thanks for the OT and have a good one everybody.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout
Great song by your friend. Thank him for keeping the spirit alive.

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Left to feel like a Russian peasant belatedly finding out that, out of sight of the masses in the pre-Internet age, Lenin and Trotsky were actually socializing and back-slapping at group photo ops with the Romanovs.

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@lotlizard
if I've ever seen one. Yuch. Why are they smiling?

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@lotlizard Ugh. My whole body just winced.

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Morire de cara sol.
--Jose Marti

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If today I stand here as a revolutionary, it is as a revolutionary against the Revolution. - Adolf Hitler

“Sometimes you have to pick the gun up to put the Gun down.”
― Malcom X

hmm, sigh, I am such a misfit lately. I think it might have been the bed bugs who bit me. Wink

I have revolutionary dreams all the times and capitulate as soon as I wake up. Sad

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@mimi  
And then, driving back to Dresden late at night, we got lost and the car got stuck in a snowdrift and a stranger with a shovel had to come and dig us out.

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@lotlizard
revolutionary anti-revolutionary. Hi, lotlizard, we had the first zero degree centigrades last night here near Hamburg. All my dreams will be about lush jungle humid warm weather... I think I drop my revolutionary dreams for a while...it's so frustrating dreaming about something that never becomes reality.

No more driving a car in winter, take the train, I love taking trains in Germany. One of the nicer things ...

Take care and stay warm.
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