Our regime change record

The neocons are back in charge in Washington, and Iran is in the cross-hairs.

In July, in a late-night tweet from the White House, President Trump threatened Iran, in all caps, with "CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED."

Since that rant, Trump's National Security Advisor John Bolton and his Secretary of State Mike Pompeo seem to be taking pages from the Iraq War playbook. They are cherry-picking intelligence and inflating threats. They're making specious connections between Iran and terrorists, including al-Qaeda and the Islamic State. And they're ratcheting up their rhetoric.

Trump himself used his speech before the United Nations on September 25 to, as Mitchell Plitnick noted on this site, "build the case for aggression against Iran and even to add more obstacles to a peaceful resolution of tensions between the United States and the Islamic Republic."

I thought it would be a good time to see how our 17 years of doing regime changes in the Muslim world was working out.

Afghanistan: 17 years
2,412 Americans killed
At least 31,000 civilians killed
At least 120,000 U.S. allies and Taliban killed
Public Opinion

Seventeen years into the U.S. military mission in Afghanistan, Americans remain pessimistic about U.S. efforts in the country. About half of adults (49%) say the United States has mostly failed in achieving its goals there, while about a third (35%) say it has mostly succeeded, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. Another 16% say they do not know if the U.S. has succeeded or failed.

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Facts on the ground

Since the US-led invasion in 2001, Afghanistan has never been as insecure as it is now. The Taliban control more territory than at any point since the removal of their regime 17 years ago.

The Afghan war has already become the longest war in US history. With the passage of time, the conflict has not only become more intense - it has also become more complicated. The attacks are becoming bigger, more frequent, more widespread and much deadlier.
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Large parts of provinces like Helmand and Kandahar - where hundreds of US, UK and other foreign troops were killed - are now under Taliban control. Meanwhile, civilian casualties are at an unprecedented level. According to the UN, more than 10,000 civilians were killed or injured in 2017, and the number is expected to be even higher in 2018.

Iraq: 15 years
4,500 U.S. troops killed
Between 110,000 and 1,000,000 civilians killed
Around 150,000 U.S. allies and enemies killed
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Facts on the ground

The Americans must have been at a loss in Iraq or too absent such that Iran succeeded in breaking the Sunni bloc and placed Halbousi as speaker of the Iraqi parliament. This is a major achievement by Iran in Iraq. For the first time, there is a Sunni parliamentarian bloc loyal to Iran.

Let’s face it. Iran has beaten the Americans all over the place in Iraq. It has scored too many goals there.

The winners

Across the country, Iranian-sponsored militias are hard at work establishing a corridor to move men and guns to proxy forces in Syria and Lebanon. And in the halls of power in Baghdad, even the most senior Iraqi cabinet officials have been blessed, or bounced out, by Iran’s leadership.
From Day 1, Iran saw something else: a chance to make a client state of Iraq, a former enemy against which it fought a war in the 1980s so brutal, with chemical weapons and trench warfare, that historians look to World War I for analogies. If it succeeded, Iraq would never again pose a threat, and it could serve as a jumping-off point to spread Iranian influence around the region.

In that contest, Iran won, and the United States lost.

Why the war was fought

Before the 2003 invasion, Iraq's domestic oil industry was fully nationalized and closed to Western oil companies. A decade of war later, it is largely privatized and utterly dominated by foreign firms.
From ExxonMobil and Chevron to BP and Shell, the West's largest oil companies have set up shop in Iraq. So have a slew of American oil service companies, including Halliburton, the Texas-based firm Dick Cheney ran before becoming George W. Bush's running mate in 2000.

Libya: 7 years
0 Americans killed
10,000 to 20,000 civilians killed in civil war
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Facts on the ground

The rise of “super militias,” which last month triggered the worst spasm of violence in the Libyan capital Tripoli in four years, has exposed the weakness of Western efforts to stabilise Libya while creating an opening for Daesh to resurrect itself in North Africa...
Another cease-fire was declared on September 26. But few observers expect the violence to vanish while the militias’ long-standing rivalries and economic ambitions persist. Previous cease-fire agreements have repeatedly broken down.

The recent violence is the starkest evidence yet of how the strategy adopted by the United Nations and Western powers after the ouster and death of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi during the 2011 Arab Spring revolts has faltered.

Facts on the ground #2

Armed groups execute and torture civilians in Libya in almost complete impunity seven years after the revolution that toppled Muammar Gaddafi, the United Nations human rights office said on Wednesday.

Libyans and migrants are often held incommunicado in arbitrary detention in appalling conditions, and reports persist of captured migrants being bought and sold on “open slave markets”, it said in a report to the Human Rights Council.

What's not to love about a regime change record like that?
Bring on Iran!

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Somalia: 2006
Syria: 2011 or 2014
Yemen: 2015

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@gjohnsit
[video:https://youtu.be/rrTrK-b4k1g]
and all further regime change efforts will just go dandy.
здра́вица!
Sorry, your statistics are great, just make me want to get drunk and say Prost with a beer.
Good Night from Germany. I don't want the drummer, I don't want the drinker and I don't want the Rhum. I want peace.

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For example Libya. Slave traders were oppressed and had aspirations just like the Ukrainian Nazis. Aspirations according to His Resistance Holiness Obama. Let the markets rule!

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worse.

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chuck utzman

TULSI 2020

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My question is, when this statement is juxtaposed with our current reality, where the hell do we start?

Reading your essay could not help but remember:

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

like, "Has the US achieved its goals", without also asking them, "What were the goals of the US?"

if you believe, as certainly some around this site do, that the goal was to create chaos and opportunity, then you would likely agree that the US had achieved its goals -- but I don't think your answer would mean what everybody looking at this poll would think it meant.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd  
a question such as, “Do you think the actual goals of the U.S. in entering that war were more on the good side, or on the evil side?” (on a numeric scale)

Come on, professionals, you know how to do surveys so as to obtain meaningful correlations, don’t pretend you need someone on a blog to tell you this.

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America and most of the US people believe that the US acts in ethical ways. This is ridiculous as these wars were wars of choice with horrific consequences. So how are we the good guys? This needs to be studied along with Hitler's rise to power to see how evil can persuade the people that evil is something other than bad and that it is even responsible.

The rest of the world sees this for what it is. Western countries do nothing because they are part of Team West. But that's a tiny minority of the world, about 15%. The rest of the world understands, but as I have been told "The US is too powerful". Indeed if this is true then the US must oppose multipolarity at all cost, and that involves punishing use of force on a regular basis, both military and economic. I predict that this will get really bad over the next five years.

The only good news, if you can call it that, is that the US military is scared stiff of the Russian military. And it goes like this- Russia will protect her people and property and will allow no direct attacks. If the US tries a punitive attack, Russia will extract a price, probably by destroying US assets and killing US soldiers. Now the US military could then escalate, especially since the US has just a huge amount of physical assets, but the politics are frightening. Congressional Critters would be outraged if Russia sunk a US warship, even if in defense. They would demand a punishing response from the US military. That ends in nuclear conflict, which once again levels the playing field ... in Hell. So, I believe that the US military wants to avoid this scenario at all cost. I hope that I am right.

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Capitalism has always been the rule of the people by the oligarchs. You only have two choices, eliminate them or restrict their power.

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@The Wizard It's the job of John Bolton, and to a lesser extent Bibi, to persuade the military to wage war anyway, to overcome their fear, as it were.

If a demon from Hell were to walk among us, with the goal of sowing destruction, chaos and death, would it behave any differently than John Bolton?

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"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."

@The Wizard
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU]

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.