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British Police Find Putin's Passport at Scene of Salisbury Poison Attack

We've been wrong, Putin really did it

Salisbury (dpo) - Last doubts over Russia's guilt in poisoning former spy Sergei Skripal have been eliminated. As the British government announced today, the passport of Russian president Vladimir Putin was found at the scene in Salisbury.

According to Prime Minister Theresa May, the passport was only now found in another search of the scene, as it had been hidden under a fallen leaf.

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Russia has 24 hours to extradite Vladimir Putin for questioning in London”, according to a statement issued by the British government. “Refusal will be taken as admission of guilt.

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mimi's picture

snoopy the dog has may be a cold in his nose and can't sniff properly anymore. I mean the snark tag is all fake, just to confuse us even more. I am sure it was a passport mix-up, but do not believe I would tell you whose passport snoopy really found.

Not only passports survive the most amazing things, EB C99p readers too.

Sweet dreams, snoopydawg.

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And here I thought it was the Onion. Shok

Is the Onion still in business? Real life has proven to be far weirder than anything that Onion ever published. Sigh...the poor Onion. Lol

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@gulfgal98

still alive! but this was russia insider re-blogging from postillon. great parody site, imo.

der postillon: ‘Der Postillon is a German website, run by Stefan Sichermann featuring satirical articles reporting on international, national, and local news in newspaper and TV format. In October 2015, the Postillon had more than 14 million visitors.[1] Der Postillon also appears as an English version titled "The Postillon"; a parody news site

in english:
https://www.the-postillon.com/

well done, snoopy dawg!

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@gulfgal98 was the claim that Woodward's latest book revealed that one of the things that White House insiders feared most was that Trump would screw up the nation's descent into fascism.

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and then gets sick have been poisoned because of it. Or something.

Pussy Riot's Pyotr Verzilov in Berlin after alleged poisoning

Pyotr Verzilov, a prominent anti-Kremlin activist and member of the Pussy Riot protest band, has been flown to Berlin for treatment after falling sick with a mysterious illness.

The 30-year-old suddenly fell ill several days ago shortly after an interview with Al Jazeera and has since had trouble seeing, speaking, and moving. Those close to Verzilov suspect he has been poisoned.
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Verzilov garnered attention earlier this year when he and three female members of the protest group staged a brief pitch invasion during the FIFA World Cup final in Moscow in July.

The group served a 15-day sentence for running onto the pitch in front of President Vladimir Putin and other high-ranking officials wearing police uniforms. The stunt was meant to promote free speech, the group said.

Al Jazeera is the only site reporting that he interviewed with them so I don't know if this is important to the story.

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a media report that a Saudi passport had been found near the rubble of the Twin Towers. And it was not satire. Never heard it again, though. Point being, that satirical outlets would be hard-pressed to surpass fake news.

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that was found in the rubble. Whether this was true or not depends on who you read I guess. Yes it was - no it wasn't.

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@snoopydawg For the few days prior, there were reports that He had been seen, alive, in Europe, after the attacks, but then suddenly, in a megaton pile of pulverized rubble, his passport was found, proving he was on the plane. Speculators then switched to talking about the woman who was talking to her husband from Flight 93, noting that cellphones didn't work from airplanes (then), and that she probably wasn't even on the plane (I don't remember the logic of that). The next day, her driver's license appeared in the wreckage, ending that topic of conversation.

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that those phone calls
@Bisbonian
came from a plane hangar somewhere in the Boston-Albany-NYC triangle, those planes never near the Towers. Passengers gassed in their seats. CIA the perps.
It's one I like for the movie. "what's that smell... ?? Almonds??"

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@Wink , I don't think I ever heard about gassing. I didn't watch the movie. I saw enough the first time through.

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@Bisbonian

from that altitude back then. It has something to do with connecting to cell towers on the ground..

[video:https://youtube.com/watch?v=cvXtryXa7ss]

This is not the one that I watched last week during the media hype of the day, but it does show that part about the cell towers. But of course there are other videos that say of course they worked. I'm surprised that evidence that debunks the official story haven't been removed.... yet.

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@snoopydawg I believed in flight 93; it's always been my belief that those civilians were the only ones who actually acted in defense of this country on that day, leading to my belief that I can't expect help from anybody who makes more than a million a year--nor anybody who is connected to our security state.

Well, I guess the emergency workers arguably defended the nation too.

I did wonder how the cell calls were made, but I thought the problem with cells on a plane was not that they *couldn't* make calls, but that they *shouldn't*, because they could interfere with the operation of the plane. Once the plane is hijacked, I imagine that concern would diminish considerably.

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And their love child

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SSDD = Same Shit Different Day.

Good thing that Novicok expert was there!

Salisbury police cordon off roads after two people fall ill with 'novichok-like symptoms' at Italian restaurant

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A witness claimed the pair affected were showing the same symptoms as the Skripals.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/salisbury-medical-incide...

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@Amanda Matthews

In the tweet above there is mention of that church that the Russian tourists visited.

In your article there are photos of them just in case people have forgotten that they were in the area where the Skripals got sick. How would that witness know how the Skripals reacted? Either Britain needs to work on their cleanup skills or this is just more Russian nonsense. Of course people are believing that Russia did the deed again. Just mind boggling how people won't use their critical thinking skills that seem to have gone on vacation after Her lost to Trump!

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@snoopydawg

This is a top notch UK analysis blog with very entertaining readers comments with great links debunking the UK’s latest accusations against the gay spies of Russia. In all the major UK newspaper comment pages today, editors are removing any dissenting or debunking comments about the Skripal affair. So lots of action there, including Craig Murray.

https://www.theblogmire.com/petrov-boshirov-and-the-burden-of-proof/

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Bottom line

Accusations are not convictions. Suspects are not culprits. And if we are going to pretend that the extraordinarily flimsy evidence against the two men — at least that presented in public — is enough to claim “case closed; culprits caught”, then we have basically torn up 1,000 years or so of legal history, and are pretty well lost as a nation.

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Firstly, how on earth would the two men have left traces of it there and not in other places they visited?
Secondly, how did they themselves manage to avoid contamination?
Thirdly, why wasn’t the hotel immediately cordoned off when the discovery was made?
Fourthly, why were the guests who stayed in the hotel between the 4th March and 4th May not contacted and checked over?
Fifthly, why was the OPCW not informed?
And sixthly, why was the hotel owner not informed about nerve agent being found in his hotel until 6th September, when TV crews turned up outside his hotel?

Whoever’s running this shit show is an idiot.

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@Amanda Matthews Especially IF there were traces of the poison left in the hotel room and no other guests nor the owner were notified? Stretching credibility much? Wow!

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It's satire of creating a tv show about the Skripals' movement that day and the two people who played them.

This makes as much sense as May's accusations do.

The biggest problem we had was whether to dress the actors playing the assassins in full chemical protective gear or not. On the one hand, since they are about to smear the most lethal military grade nerve agent known to man on the door handle, you’d naturally think they would need to wear some kind of HazMat gear to do that. But then again, since so far as we are aware, nobody in Christie Miller Road reported seeing anybody dressed in chemical warfare gear that morning, in the end we decided just to give them a pair of Marigolds each and hoped for the best.”

Smearing the gel on the door handle also caused a number of problems, with the crew having to film the scene five or six times, on account of the gel continually dripping off the door handle and leaving a sticky residue. Yet this was by no means the biggest challenge they encountered there. Filming Doug and Sarah arriving back home after the four hours at the cemetery, Hugh immediately saw a problem:

When they got out of the car and walked over to the house, Doug unlocked the front door and opened it using the handle, with Sarah following and closing the door from the inside. Of course, this meant that she didn’t actually touch the handle, and therefore didn’t get the Novichok on her hand. So when they came back out, we had to get Sarah to remember to shut the door with the outside handle, just to make sure she got her dose of Novichok. But of course the problem with this is that it was one of those outward opening uPVC doors, which means that you don’t actually need to use the door handle on the way out. You can simply slam it shut. Sarah, bless her, kept forgetting this, and so we had to film the scene a number of times before she remembered to shut it using the door handle.

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Another challenge was the scene at the Avon Playground in The Maltings, when the Skripals were feeding ducks with some local boys.

This was really tricky,” said Hugh. “To start with, we had Doug giving some bread to the boys, one of whom ate a piece, since this was what a number of reports stated. But of course we quickly realised that this would have meant the boys becoming contaminated with Novichok from his hands, which of course none of them were. So we tried a few other methods that Colonel Skripal might have used to give bread to the boys. For example, tipping the bread into the floor for them to pick up; putting the bag on the ground and inviting them to come and get the bread themselves; and even taking the bread out with a spoon — anything to avoid it coming directly from his hand. But to be honest, it all looked a bit ridiculous.

Smile

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taking the bread out with a spoon

has me thinking. Do you think the whole story of the poisoning could be, dare I say it, false?

Not just the attribution to Putin and his pals, but altogether false, like, didn't happen.

I think so.

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@Linda Wood

God knows, you never see those people again.

ChlorineGate (Syria) is looking more and more like it never happened. (Not with nerve gas, anyway.)

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@Linda Wood

Found this article in the comments. It's about a US and U.K. Plot to demonise Vlad from 2014. During the accusations that blame Russia for the Skripals poisoning we have heard about another ex Russian spy named Litvinenko who was also apparently murdered by Russia by using polonium to do the deed.

Operation Beluga

You would have to have been in a coma or otherwise unconscious to not have heard the one about the two poisoned Russians on an English park bench and how those evil Russians did it, the news media has talked of little else in the past week.

Despite giving this story immense amounts of air time, the media have completely failed to apply even the most rudimentary standards of journalism, they have done a shockingly bad job of reporting on this case.

They have utterly failed to do their job and ask the relevant questions such as: Who was this Russian? Why was he poisoned? Who was he associated with? Who might want him dead? Who has he upset? etc; the sort of basic questions that should be asked right at the beginning, the moment the story broke.

Instead, all we have been given, in lieu of actual journalistic reporting, is a bunch of talking heads, many of them members of the UK government, all of them bleating about how reckless and downright murderous the Russians are to have brazenly attacked someone on English soil.

Where is the evidence? Where is the investigative reporting? The media has simply accepted whole and unquestioning the ‘Russia did it’ claim of Theresa May, obediently following the government’s narrative, not once allowing a dissenting voice to be heard lest it asks even the simplest question or expresses even a glimmer of doubt.

Well, wonder no more for there is clear evidence that such a plot exists in the form of a long-running operation by the intelligence services of the West, primarily the US and Britain, but no doubt aided by the Mossad and others.

In 2014, a highly credible source – a high ranking French security expert by the name of Paul Barril exposed the existence of a plot to demonise Putin and thus destabilise and weaken Russia; it is called Operation Beluga.

Here's the article about that.

Barril exposed Operation Beluga in a recent interview with Swiss businessman Pascal Najadi on the 2006 Alexander Litvinenko death case. Litvinenko was a reputed former spy who many believe was murdered with radioactive polonium on orders of Vladimir Putin.

Najadi says the interview drew out the converse revelation that Litvinenko was actually killed by “an Italian who administered the deadly polonium 210.” What’s more, he astonishingly says, the operation was carried out under the auspices of the US and UK.

“According to Paul Barril, Litvinenko was himself working for the late Boris Berezovsky [a Russian fugitive oligarch that made London his home] who, according to Barril, was in turn working for and with the British intelligence service MI6. Barril said, ‘Litvinenko has betrayed his employers, Berezovsky and the MI6, and has pocketed large sums of money, millions of US dollars, that were destined for agent provocateurs within the Berezovsky clan. The sole goal was to globally discredit Putin and the Russian Federation. This Western intelligence operation was directed from Washington DC and London. Its code name is Beluga.'”

Litvinenko’s death has been a hot topic for officials within British officialdom. A UK coroner’s inquest failed to reach a verdict on the manner and cause of Litvinenko’s death, even after the passage of almost ten years. Then a politically-motivated official inquiry was authorized by Prime Minister David Cameron. Its final report hypothesized that Putin was behind the death, but it failed to produce any credible evidence. (See “Six Reasons You Can’t Take the Litvinenko Report Seriously”)

Britain had accused two Russians of poisoning Litvinenko. But the UK prosecutor failed to make his case against them, claiming that he had only “grave suspicions” about who’s to blame.

It would be best to read the first article which has two more articles included in it. But it shows why Russia and especially Vlad are being blamed for the murders of ex Russian spies even though it doesn't make any sense for him to do it. Sergio especially because he was let out of a Russian prison almost 10 years before he was 'poisoned.' And let's not forget his ties to the Steele dossier and the people involved in writing it. It seems that Hillary was the one who was colluding with the ex Russian and British spies during the election not Trump.

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@snoopydawg Does this mean that all roads lead back to Hillary Clinton? Shok

And let's not forget his ties to the Steele dossier and the people involved in writing it. It seems that Hillary was the one who was colluding with the ex Russian and British spies during the election not Trump.

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@Linda Wood

Duck feeding was left out of the timeline

“Sergei and Yulia arrive in Sainsbury’s upper level car park at the Maltings. At some time after this, they go to the Bishops Mill Pub in the town centre.”

After parking the car, at 1:40pm, the two of them were seen near the Avon Playground, in The Maltings, feeding ducks with some local boys. The Metropolitan Police apparently don’t think the duck feeding incident important enough to include in their timeline, and so after the parking of the car, we are treated to the vague statement that, “at some time after this, they go to the Bishops Mill Pub.”

But it is incredibly important, for the following reason: it totally, completely and comprehensively debunks the idea that Mr Skripal was poisoned at his home, after his hand came into contact with a deadly nerve agent on the handle of his front door. Why?


BECAUSE HE HANDED BREAD TO THE BOYS, AND NONE OF THEM BECAME CONTAMINATED, THAT’S WHY!

Pluto this is a great website! It totally debunks the preposterous story that the Skripals were poisoned by The Most Deadliest Nerve Agent But of course we already knew that..

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@snoopydawg from Assad's chemical weapons to Putin's chemical assassinations?

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percentage of the population, conveniently found passports are a no brainer. Yep, that proves it, by golly, there you go. It was Boris and Natasha all along.

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Did you see that whole spectacle about the UK finding the passports of the two Russian guys and thinking they found proof that they worked for GNU. It was debunked again within hours. No surprise there. They got the info from that disreputable amateur wannabe mouthpiece for NATO, Belingcat.

Meanwhile, It was Assad's birthday of Sept 12. He and the Misses spent the day together.

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Sadly those days are long gone. Ah youth.

No I missed the article. But there is so much false information floating around in regards to anything that has to do with Russia.

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several times, quite why two pedestrian 'tourists' wandered so far from a very small, obvious medieval/old centre is beyond me.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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there's no possible explanation for their whereabouts other than that they transported, handled, and applied an-in-a-class-by-itself NERVE agent.

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@Linda Wood

How was the poison put on the door? We are told that this is the most deadliest nerve agent ever and yet the Skripals didn't die immediately from it nor did the other couple who were exposed to it. In fact all 4 people were able to continue doing activities for hours after. The guys who supposedly did it were stupid enough to have opened the container in their hotel room and left traces of it in their room. Then a maid would have cleaned the room and neither she or anyone else who stayed in their room got exposed to it as Amanda stated. This is where the whole damn thing should fall apart and get people to start questioning the story. There are too many holes in this for it to be true.

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humanity I ever had. Can’t anyone cook up a decent, believable plot that doesn't Involve RUSSIANS! these days? Or non-deadly deadly poison?

After reading up on all this stuff I find it an absolute miracle anyone’s alive in that part of England if, as the police say, 1) the poison is/was as deadly as ‘they’ say; and, 2) because hundreds of people were in, out, and round about the crime scene before and after. And probably during at this rate.

Someone’s lying or someone bought some watered-down Novichok.

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@Amanda Matthews Now who else was known for selling watered down drugs?

Someone’s lying or someone bought some watered-down Novichok.

All roads lead back to ??? Shok

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the wonderful cathedral is, one of the few Henry VIII left standing. The cathedral which Constable, I think it was, painted.

I am getting a very bad feeling about this.

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@Nastarana My sister gave me a potboiler mystery novel some years ago involving Salisbury, the CIA, the another spy agency, MI6 (or MI5?) the Russians and something about Queen Elizabeth I was really a man. Had the same contact poisons. Can't remember the title or author.

I thought the plot was ridiculous. Still do.

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I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.

and decided to spend the afternoon walking around Chicago. You'd think that the fact that theere are no sidewalkss along the freeway would have been a cluee that this was a bad idea, but you'd be wrong. Niles, IL is alarge, and I wound up walking north.
The transcript of the interview smelled fishy, but the ridiculous is more believaable than a polished story.

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@doh1304 You're not only an Olympic class walker but surely a ghost.

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@The Voice In the Wilderness
and I was a fool. Fools are unkillable. I have a handfull of stories where I have no reason to still be alive. Doesn't everybody?

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that landed on the outside patio of a nearby apartment building, singed but remarkably unharmed. I seem to recall a second passport belonging to Jarrah, another hijacker was also inside. Doubly remarkable.

As for cell phone reception, during a 2003 flight, my cell phone rang on final approach to Washington National. I was 1000 feet over the Potomac River near the Pentagon.

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was a copy of Trump's Russian birth certificate, I'm told.

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I wasn't born dumb, so who made me feel like that?

How do you all earn your daily bread? What kind of folks watch all the blogs you can shake a stick at?

I recommend for further reading:

Grimm's fairy tales - All fairy tales of the Brothers Grimm
as a grim reminder how hard it is to get the moral of the story.

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