Manafort. Just askin?

So, Paul is now attempting to save whatever is left of his life. He's 69 and already going to jail for 10 years.

Now this:

Paul Manafort strikes deal with Mueller team, pleads guilty to two felony charges

The plea agreement makes Manafort the latest member of Trump's inner circle to cooperate with the investigation that has loomed over his presidency. And it suggests that investigators, who have brought charges against four Trump aides and two groups of Russian operatives, still have other targets in their sights.

I admit Drumpf sucks. Yet Manafort, who was brought into the campaign to manage the convention votes as he had done multiple times before is going to jail cause he was too stupid to register as a "foreign agent" for the Ukraine more than a decade ago?

The question I have is what is the crime Drumpf committed? Supposedly a Special Counsel is activated to investigate a specific criminal accusation. Rodboy didn't specify such in the order . And why skewering Manafort helps the purpose of a Special Counsel to get Drumpf for something Manafort did a decade before Drumpf ran for POTUS?

This is all very strange...

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Manafort pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy against the US and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice due to attempts to tamper with witnesses, according to a court filing Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/paul-manafort-guilty-plea/index....

Other charges are being dropped.

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While on bail, he got caught corresponding regarding witnesses. Which is why they put him into solitary confinement isolated from the court and his lawyers prior to trial.

That still has nothing to do with his original prosecution nor Russian Collusion not Dumpf imho.

They are trying to play us...

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@EdMass played. Mueller is a reliable and unprincipled servant of the security establishment and always has been. From framing the two Libyans for the Pan Am flight 103 bombing, to misleading Congress ahead of the invasion of Iraq, to the timing of the indictments concerning the "Russia" investigation. His job is to undermine Trump and stir up animosity against Russia in any way possible. Trump is a con man and a crook and many of his friends and allies are crooks as well. It is obvious, however, that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and "Russia" which seems to portrayed as a large amorphous mass of evil. It is also obvious to anyone that bothers to think, that Russia had minimal influence in the election and that the hacking, tampering, etc. ascribed to Russia is either non-existent or nothing to do with Russia. Sooo.... Mueller has to get convictions so that the MSM don't have to admit that the investigation has turned up nothing and if Mueller can threaten an old man with dying in prison, that old man might be willing to save his ass by going along with a made up story.

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who tried to tamper with the Jonathan Pollard spy case in some fashion, you’d be rich.

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What witnesses? If you listen to MSNBC, which I do, and CNN less so, then all you heard was it was entirely a documents case[s]. So what witnesses? I assume they have forensic accountants as expert witnesses so they can enter exhibits into the record and explain the evidence, but they are generic.

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that the special prosecutor is required to ignore other crimes he discovers while investigating. So there's nothing suspicious about prosecuting Manafort for actual crimes he actually committed, regardless of when he did them.
The more interesting question is why Mueller is offering a deal. Manafort obviously wants one, that doesn't take much explanation. This tells us that Manafort has something to offer Mueller, so he knows something incriminating about Trump.
As soon as Manafort was convicted, Trump went on a Twitter-rampage about pardoning him. Why? Because he doesn't want Manafort to talk.

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What?

The more interesting question is why Mueller is offering a deal. Manafort obviously wants one, that doesn't take much explanation. This tells us that Manafort has something to offer Mueller, so he knows something incriminating about Trump.

With respect, I disagree. Mueller could be offering a deal for false information, or for information about Trump that has nothing to do with Russia or Russiagate. Mueller could be offering a light sentence, or no sentence, in exchange for false information.

Is that too outlandish, unthinkable, unheard of? So many of our political and agency leaders are connected, one way or another, to crime, money laundering, and terrorism financing, including Robert Mueller.

https://fighting15th.com/2017/08/03/robert-mueller-dirty-cop/

ROBERT MUELLER: DIRTY COP
by Jeffrey Marty
Published August 3, 2017

HSBC Bank Money Laundering Scandal:

Although it received little coverage in the mainstream media, the HSBC money laundering case reveals the complete and total corruption of federal law enforcement toward the end of Mueller’s term as FBI Director. No case demonstrates how the swamp works better than this one.

For nearly the entire duration of Mueller’s term, UK-based HSBC, an international bank with divisions and depositors worldwide, was doing billions of dollars in business with drug cartels, rouge nations, and even banks associated with terrorism, taking massive deposits made in foreign nations and funneling them into its US banks. The overall amounts were staggering, totaling hundreds of billions of dollars, which likely gave HSBC a comparative advantage over its rivals and greater market share, while providing international criminals with the ability to “launder” money into the US banking system with little-to-no oversight. In 2012, a whistleblower, who collected information and recorded conversations with HSBC employees, provided strong proof to the public that the bank was operating as a “criminal enterprise.”

Terrorists and Rogue Nations: The bank’s practices also allowed terrorist groups and rogue nations to have access to our financial markets in a similar manner, facilitating financing of their activities inside this country, as well as providing greater international investment possibilities for sanctioned regimes—including $19 billion deposited from Iran into HSBC’s foreign affiliate banks. There were also lax rules for setting up relationships with affiliate banks in other countries, which included a Saudi Arabian bank with ties to funding terrorism.

… While a US citizen sending money to terrorists can result in a 20-year prison sentence, and many US citizens have been sentenced to decades in prison for even marijuana-related crimes, the bank’s executives and employees never spent one day in jail for their roles in assisting terrorist-connected nations and Mexican drug cartels to do business in the United States—an example of the “two systems” of justice than many Americans believe exist between the elites and regular citizens.

If the FBI uses search warrants, recorded transactions, confidential informants, wiretaps, GPS tracking, and conducts a broad sweep of witness interviews in cases involving drug trafficking and terrorism in other cases, why wouldn’t Mueller have done the same to build a case here? Mueller’s absence in the HSBC case says as much about the cover-up as when Holder refused to prosecute over the objections of career prosecutors.

James Comey Joins HSBC’s Board of Directors: Less than two months after the 2012 deferred prosecution agreement, HSBC appointed James Comey to its Board of Directors as head of the Financial System Vulnerabilities Committee.

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@WoodsDweller committed by Manafort happened years before any involvement with Trump. Years. They have nothing to do with Trump.

Mueller didn't just happen to stumble across this information. He dug and dug, well beyond his charge of finding 'collusion,' with Russia.

I find it very disturbing when people think it is justified to use the entire security and justice system to go after political opponents just because they dislike a politician like you do(apparently).

And your logic re: pardon is backwards. Trump is poking Mueller in the eye, saying 'So what? I plan to pardon anyway.'

Mueller is the epitome of a kangaroo court. But information is coming out about the criminal dems, like the Podestas, who are are somehow entangled with Manafort's actions that are under investigation by Mueller. So, if Mueller's investigation results in more information that exposes the criminal activity of Clinton, Obama, etc., then maybe it will have been worthwhile after all.

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It's from a few months ago: Christopher Steele, the man behind the Trump dossier

It sure makes this Russia shit look real, along with a whole shitload of other supporting evidence.

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@Timmethy2.0 This was well after I determined the article to be another New Yorker/Establishment smear job.

Orbis promises confidentiality, and releases no information on its clientele. Some of its purported clients, such as a major Western oil company, are conventional corporations. Others are controversial, including a London law firm representing the interests of Oleg Deripaska, the billionaire victor of Russia’s aluminum wars, a notoriously violent battle. He has been described as Putin’s favorite oligarch. Steele’s possible financial ties to Deripaska recently prompted Senator Grassley to demand more information from the London law firm. If a financial trail between Deripaska and Orbis can be established, it is likely to raise even more questions about Steele, because Deripaska has already figured in the Russia investigation, in an unsavory light. Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager, has been accused of defrauding Deripaska’s company while working for it in Ukraine.

This whole Steele episode is whitewashed by the New Yorker writer who is oh so sympathetic to poor misunderstood spook Christopher Steel. I don't care if Steele went to Oxford, Cambridge or Sheffield. What he did politically speaks for itself. The dossier was nothing more than well-paid political whoring.

The New Yorker still thinks that Facebook ads seriously affected the sanctity of our election system.
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

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@Alligator Ed needed "outside influence" to divide and conquer. Please. But they will not ever give that up and really, it has been used for eons here in Murka. After all, supposedly MLK himself was nothing but a commie stooge.... Anyone who doubts America as the land of the free, home of the brave must be banished to the margins and if that can't be done, well then, other means usually work quite well for our owners and they have absolutely no reservations about using them.

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Think about it...

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this piece, although, not entirely surprised, since I've heard Mayer in radio interviews--she's the equivalent of NYT's former reporter Judith Miller, IMO. Need I say more? Wink

Seriously, the most frightening aspect of this article was that a British citizen could wield so much power and/or influence over US governmental agencies. Particularly, since Steele, along with US Intel/law enforcement agencies/communities admit that much of the dossier has yet to be confirmed. Whew!

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@Unabashed Liberal welded power so much as he was providing them with what they wanted or was willing to collaborate with them in taking Trump out.

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on my part. Perhaps Steele didn't so much exhibit 'power,' as he did persistence and flat-out dogged determination.

I guess I was left wondering, "When had it become the duty/business of British nationals to take it upon themselves to dictate, or even greatly influence, anything about US electoral processes." I do think it's fair to say that Steele pretty much knocked himself out to alert Everybody and their Brother about a dossier that he knew had not been (in toto) verified. Apparently, he wasn't able to fully accept his Bud's (Ohr's) assurances that the FBI would proceed with/process the material, appropriately. I thought it was a fascinating read; although, I took some of it with a huge grain of salt.

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To see how corrupt this whole system is, in its eagerness to “get Trump” . . .

. . . just compare Manafort’s case with the sweet, sweet plea deal Imran Awan got.

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