Well, well, well. This doesn't bode well for Hillary

The IG report stated that most of Hillary's emails were "sent to another country" or they were hacked.

A member of the House Committee on the Judiciary said during a hearing Thursday that a government watchdog found that nearly all of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s emails were sent to a foreign entity and that the FBI didn’t follow-up on that finding.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) found an “anomaly on Hillary Clinton’s emails going through their private server, and when they had done the forensic analysis, they found that her emails, every single one except four, over 30,000, were going to an address that was not on the distribution list,” Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas said during a hearing with FBI official Peter Strzok.

Strzok was informed of that and he did nothing about it. The justice department attorney general Horowitz got 4 calls about it, but he too didn't take any action on it.

Guess what foreign entity hacked Hillary's emails?

China Hacked Hillary Clinton’s Private Email Server

A Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington, D.C., area hacked Hillary Clinton’s private server throughout her term as secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails, two sources briefed on the matter told The Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Chinese firm obtained Clinton’s emails in real time as she sent and received communications and documents through her personal server, according to the sources, who said the hacking was conducted as part of an intelligence operation.

The Chinese wrote code that was embedded in the server, which was kept in Clinton’s residence in upstate New York. The code generated an instant “courtesy copy” for nearly all of her emails and forwarded them to the Chinese company, according to the sources.

Then what happened with her emails? They were given to the Chinese government. What happened after that?

Chinese Govt. Killed and Imprisoned 18-20 CIA Spies After Penetrating Hillary Clinton’s Private Server

Hillary’s carelessness and criminal actions may have led to the deaths of 20 CIA operatives in China.

The Chinese government killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 CIA operatives in China from 2010 to 2012.

At the same time a Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington, D.C., area hacked Hillary Clinton’s private server throughout her term as secretary of state.

The Chinese government was obtaining Hillary Clinton’s emails in real time.

Business Insider reported:

China killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 CIA sources from 2010 to 2012, hobbling U.S. spying operations in a massive intelligence breach whose origin has not been identified, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

Investigators remain divided over whether there was a spy within the Central Intelligence Agency who betrayed the sources or whether the Chinese hacked the CIA’s covert communications system, the newspaper reported, citing current and former U.S. officials.

The Chinese killed at least a dozen people providing information to the CIA from 2010 through 2012, dismantling a network that was years in the making, the newspaper reported.

One was shot and killed in front of a government building in China, three officials told the Times, saying that was designed as a message to others about working with Washington.

The breach was considered particularly damaging, with the number of assets lost rivaling those in the Soviet Union and Russia who perished after information passed to Moscow by spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen, the report said. Ames was active as a spy in the 1980s and Hanssen from 1979 to 2001.

The CIA declined to comment when asked about the Times report on Saturday.

By 2013, U.S. intelligence concluded China's ability to identify its agents had been curtailed, the newspaper said, and the CIA has been trying to rebuild its spy network there.

Hillary's tenure ended in 2013. I don't think that it was a coincidence that the killings stopped then.

So Peter Strzok of the FBI and Horowitz of the justice department knew that her emails were in China's hands and did nothing about it. Apparently they didn't inform the CIA about that because they were in the dark about what was happening to their informants. Eventually after congress found out that she hadn't turned her emails in when her tenure was over an FBI investigation into her use of her private email was opened. But we know that they didn't actually bother doing a real investigation because Comey had already decided that she wasn't going to be charged before he even began. BTW. All of her emails are on Weiner's laptop which the NYC FBI office has in their possession. Lynch who was Obama's attorney general knew about that too when she met with Bill on the tarmac..

But now with this information coming out that China had not only gotten her emails, but they may killed 18-20 people who were working with the CIA. Did Comey know that people had been killed because she thought that she didn't have to follow the rules and still covered for her then I'm thinking that this was a deliberate act. How else do you explain what has happened? Put this together with what the Awans were doing and what else can you come up with?

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when she released classified information to Wikileaks even though no one had proof that anyone's life was put in danger. But here's evidence that Hillary's use of her private email server did get people killed what will be done about it? I'm sure that we can guess what will happen.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

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to be some arrests for the people who covered up Hillary's crime of violating the espionage act. I've read quite a few articles by him and think that he is credible.

Former Central Intelligence Agency operative Kevin Shipp calls the Clinton cover-up ‘the biggest espionage case involving government officials in the history of this country.’

What kind of power and connections does Hillary Clinton have, Former Central Intelligence Agency operative Kevin Shipp wants to know, “to get all these members of the deep state shadow government to basically risk their own criminal penalties.” The most “bizarre thing,” Shipp insists, “is the people who protected her from clear felonious activity and violations of the Espionage Act.” A lot of Americans are calling for a public hanging.

They seem to have been counting on her election to cover up their own criminal “collusion,” then President Trump threw a monkey wrench into the well-oiled Clinton machine by winning. “Indictments are coming because of Donald Trump coming into the White House from the outside,” predicts Shipp.

He said that she not only got away with using her private email server, but from her involvement in the uranium one deal. The FBI was doing an investigation into the Russian actors involved in a Russian company before Obama was working on a deal to sell Russia 20% of our uranium. Guess who put the kabosh on that investigation? None other than Robert Mueller. Bill received $500,000 for giving a speech to Russians and their foundation received millions from Russian oligarchs who were involved in the deal.

The short answer is that she had a whole lot of help. “That is what is so chilling about the whole thing,” Shipp declares. “This is deep. This is dark. This is as dark as it gets, and this is the biggest espionage case involving government officials in the history of this country.”

“James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, was protecting her and leaking things to the media and lying. You had John Brennan, Director of the CIA, protecting her by starting a false investigation (on Trump) and stirring things up with this dossier.”

Brennan has a whole list of deep state related crimes of his own, Shipp details.

James Comey, who was Director of the FBI, protected Hillary by shepherding the email server investigation, along with Peter Strzok who changed the recommended criminal charge of “gross negligence” down to a slap on the wrist allegation of “carelessness.”

Comey has been helping the Clintons clean up their messes since the Whitewater investigation.

Then there is the Grand Inquisitor himself, Robert Mueller. Before he was put in charge of the plot to discredit the president by manufacturing a case of collusion with Russia, he was the one in charge of running the “counterintelligence investigation against Russia during the Uranium One deal,” Shipp explains.

“He knew the Russians were engaged in extortion, bribery, racketeering.” Mueller was well aware that “millions of dollars were going into the Clinton Foundation, and he ignored the fact that these Russians had targeted and essentially co-opted Hillary Clinton.” The Russians “funneled money” to the Clinton Foundation and paid Bill Clinton $500,000 to make a single speech.
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The money flowing to the Clintons from Uranium One wasn’t a one-time payment. $140,000,000 was just a deposit. The intention was for a cut of the profits from the deal to follow periodically. One of Shipp’s interviewers asked for clarification. “they were using it as a vehicle to launder money for Hillary Clinton… is that what you’re telling me?”

“That’s what I’m saying,” Shipp replied. “I’m saying that Hillary Clinton used this to launder money in foreign banks, so it wasn’t subject to U.S. laws, Congressional Subpoenas, or FOIA demands for the evidence. This was done to launder this money globally through the Clinton Foundation so the U.S. Government could not examine it at all.”

Worth a full read.

This shows how far back Comey, Mueller and Rosenstein have been covering up the Clinton's crimes.

Yep. There is something very fishy about that investigation into her as well as others going back decades including ones during their time in Arkansas politics.

Why You Actually Should Care About Hillary Clinton's Damn Emails

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@snoopydawg acted as Hillary's mule when he took uranium samples to Russia on Hillary's behalf prior to the Uranium 1 deal. Mueller was the Director of the FBI at the time.

One can only guess as to why Mueller quashed the investigation into the Uranium 1 deal. Duh!

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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@gulfgal98 Mueller has a history of turning up when the Bushes need something managed, all the way back to the eighties. I wonder if this little trip he took for Hillary is more evidence of the connection between our two leading crime families.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal it is not just Mueller, but Comey has been a long time Clinton fixer. These people are a part of a long time criminal enterprise.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

@snoopydawg getting a huge amount of money to sell out the US like they did.

And I thought Nafta was one of the main problems.

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The money flowing to the Clintons from Uranium One wasn’t a one-time payment. $140,000,000 was just a deposit. The intention was for a cut of the profits from the deal to follow periodically.

What's the going rate for uranium? How much is "20%" of our supply? I guess the scum bags call the money they made off with 'a commission' or 'fee'? I'm full of questions now, and that all-too-familiar feeling in my GI tract is back. That feeling is getting pretty old, too.

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we have to look forward.
I predict, with high certainty, nothing will happen.
Burn her ass and yours may be next to feel the flame. If nothing else, our current government is good at covering up things.
Need I list said things?
Well done snoop.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

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McCain's funeral. It said that the church doors should have been locked and the it should have been transferred to The Hague and Obama could explain why "we tortured some folks, but that was in the past and now we're going to be looking forward." I whole heartedly agree with it.

I think that even if there is evidence that Hillary's emails were responsible for the deaths of the people who were working with the CIA nothing would be done about it. The IG report was full of evidence that the FBI were deliberately obtuse in their investigation into her use of private email server and still nothing has been done about it. But the biggest reason for why I think she will skate is because the NYC FBI office has every one of her emails that they found on Weiner's laptop and they haven't done anything even though they see what they contain. A few of them said that they were literally sickened by what was in them. BTW. Lynch threatened them not to release them or she would prosecute the cop that killed Eric Garner. Remember she was the top law dawg in this country at the time and she too covered for Herheinous. She could only do that if she knew that she could get away with it. This means that Obama was protecting Hillary. In my oh so humble opinion.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

@Pricknick @Pricknick Mueller has been handing out plea bargains for HRC associates, we may never find out the depth of the corruption.

And Jeff Sessions seems rather useless.

Are plea bargains protection across any legal action? If another special counsel was established to research the HRC corruption, would the plea bargains handed out in 2016 to Huma Abadin and others still cover them?

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Are plea bargains protection across any legal action? If another special counsel was established to research the HRC corruption, would the plea bargains handed out in 2016 to Huma Abadin and others still cover them?

I'm betting, just like the warrant applications were so thoroughly considered every single time they were granted for Obama vs Trump, and just like the scope of the Mueller investigation is so pin-point focused on Russian collusion, the Comey, etc. immunity deals are just as above-board and strictly limited. /s

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Please, you must all come to AU's remedial mathematics class to learn this! 20 CIA spooks equals roughly 500,000 Libyans (or Iraqis or Syrians). This is a known FACT. Just ask Madeline Albright said, losing 500,000 Iraqi children to blockade and sanctions was a "good deal". Hey Maddy you asshole, did you ever miss a meal? Don't give me any Holocaust excuse. If you were in it, you probably helped George Soros turn in other Jews like yourself, while having "the best time in my life".

There some other equations I need help with, swampers.

Here's one: 435 = 0. I haven't quite figgered out how you can making nothing out of something. I guess that's why they call it coverup.

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are (purportedly) not as thrilled with Hillary as their bosses' bosses' bosses are.

Just to be clear, that's gossip, and not founded on evidence.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

So was Comey and the other. They knew. They did nothing.

Death penalty.

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@Battle of Blair Mountain life in prison, in Club Fed probably. That's the most I hope they get. revenge meh

Free Julian Assange! peace

GUNMEN TRY TO ASSASSINATE HEAD OF LIBYAN ARMY (AP)

From: Hillary Clinton
To: Huma Abedin
Date: 2011-12-10 07:49
Subject: GUNMEN TRY TO ASSASSINATE HEAD OF LIBYAN ARMY (AP)
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Did you get info from Chelsea about the wall lamps?

I used to get in big trouble for using work email to do personal business, but never got anyone murdered as far as I know. Abolish the cabinet position, that's what I say. WTF is a U.S. Secretary of State anymore? Laundromat clerk for wealthy psychopaths.

Orange jump suits for every clinton, and then what? Power vacuums suck, hold on tight and hope hard.

good luck

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with her unsecured server whilst she was SOS. If China could hack into secured government and corporate servers and steal data, Hillary's home brew amateur server setup would have been child's play. We can be assured that China knows everything that Obama's Secretary of State was discussing and planning for those four years, even the 30,000 missing emails about "Chelsea's yoga lessons".

Meanwhile life goes on as the Deep State again cranks up the Great Wurlitzer of Propaganda, now to be directed against China.

Destabilizing the Middle East/Iran, endless conflict in Afghanistan/Pakistan and supporting Uighur jihads in China are three tools The Empire is now using to prevent the Chinese BRI from stretching from China to Africa and checkmating The Grand Chessboard.

Fake news? 1 million Uighurs in Chinese “internment camps” (Video)

The Duran’s Alex Christoforou and Editor-in-Chief Alexander Mercouris discuss a recent Reuters report with a headline making an incredible claim of human rights abuse from the Chinese government: “U.N. says it has credible reports that China holds million Uighurs in secret camps.”

Turns out this headline was false. The United Nations stated it never said such a thing, or made such a claim.

Reuters and just about every mainstream media publication and television network picked up on the story and reported it as fact. No retraction has been submitted by Reuters, or any other news publication for that matter.

As Ajit Singh from Global Research writes, “one American member of an independent UN body made a provocative claim that China was interning 1 million Muslims, but failed to provide a single named source. And Reuters and the Western corporate media ran with it anyway, attributing the unsubstantiated allegations of one US individual to the UN as a whole.”
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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T22PM3sIsBs]

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i'd seen it at the duran on another mission.

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Only the toadies will go down. Meanwhile, the political football games will continue to be televised.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

(only a few of us) reading this in an obscure, partisan publication? 18 months into this Administration, why hasn't Trump ordered his AG to convene a Grand Jury, or if Sessions refuses, do it as an end run downstream through a more cooperative US Attorney?

Why isn't anyone in the leak capitol of the world leaking about the Mexican Standoff that prevented any of the above from happening 18 months ago?

These are the real questions that need immediate answers that spring out of this story.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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The NYT via Reuters, via Business Insider is the source for the killings and for the proposition that the Chinese must have hacked something. However, the stated suspicion is hacking of the CIA. https://www.businessinsider.com/r-china-killed-cia-sources-hobbled-us-sp...

What is more likely, hacking of the spooks, or hacking of Hillary's backyard server?

Actually, it would not surprise me in the least if the Clintons handed China the info.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/chinese-illegally-donated-bill-cl... https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/18/us/clinton-says-chinese-money-did-not... http://www.latimes.com/la-na-donors19oct19-story.html (Hillary, 2008 csmpaign); https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/clinton-foundatio... And that's only scratching the surface.

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My gut tells me both Hillary and Trump, and the Directors of the FBI, NSA and CIA -- committed multiple felonies -- and they all have the goods on each other.

And everyone who knows in DC is scared shitless to leak the juiciest details - see my amended comment about the Mexican Standoff above -- and, besides, nobody will break such a thing in the "respectable" press. If a tree fell in the forest, smashing all of DC, but nobody dares be the first to talk about it, would we ever hear it? Did it ever happen?

Even the Russians, Chinese and Israelis seemingly are keeping their mouths shut, for now, while they all try to leverage it for their own advantage.

Does anyone have a better explanation, or is this all just an episode of The Twilight Zone, or, perhaps, a demonstration of the Positivist Maxim of David Hulme?

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explain more about what you're calling a Mexican Standoff?

I sense at the conservative sites I read, at which there is close observation of the legalities throughout, a similar concern that no one is bringing down the law on these people. Is that what you're saying? And are you saying a house of cards will come tumbling down on all of them in Congress, the Intelligence Committee and so forth?

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@leveymg
That’s the theory I operate under. Everybody (that goes from the most suspicious of spouses to the psychopaths running intelligence services, MIC-wise or NSA-wise), they’re all recording or tapping everything. Crazy Omarosa did it with an iPhone in the White House.

I hope whoever gets the assignment to go through my junk, be it he, she, or whom ever, packs a lunch. Tedious drivel will probably take some IC ‘anal-yst’ quite a while to ensure that it really is tedious drivel.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

the act of removing the Secretary of State's correspondence from the United States government's control and from its archives was purposeful toward removing it from the American people and from any pesky law enforcement. But I have felt all along that the insecure personal server was meant to be available to foreign actors, corporate actors, and of course the NSA CIA Deep State, which sees everything.

So this correspondence was essentially allowed to exist for the benefit of players, any and all of whom wished to correspond about dealings with powerful United States government officials who were dealing outside the supervision of the American people and outside good law enforcement.

In other words, the personal server was used in order to engage in criminal activity internationally, nationally, whatever, just as long as it was unavailable to the American people.

So I don't think the Clintons or the Deep State were unaware of international access to her correspondence.

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@Linda Wood

So this correspondence was essentially allowed to exist for the benefit of players, any and all of whom wished to correspond about dealings with powerful United States government officials who were dealing outside the supervision of the American people and outside good law enforcement.

the answer is yes imo. People who did not hold security clearances were allowed to access Hillary's email server which was not only used for her state department business, but also for her foundation. Chelsea Clinton needed access to it so she could see where mom was doing business and knew where to send dad to give his speeches to the same organizations and governments that she was working with.

Obama told Hillary not to allow Sydney Bluementhol to work in her state department so she hired him to work for her foundation and he ended up doing the same type of work he would have in the SD. He was in Libya before, during and after the coup sending her information.

She was also told to keep her foundation separate from her duties as SOS. She said that she would. She didn't. Her foundation made hundreds of millions from her pay to play shenanigans and Bill raked in millions during her tenure. Has any other SOS and their spouse made that much money from their position? I doubt it. Did congress and Obama know what she was doing? You betcha. She intervened for people and governments that had business before the SD and after she did that her foundation received donations and Bill got paid to give speeches.

As to your other comment above. If a real investigation into her foundation was done and followed up on then many people in government here and in foreign countries would fall. And there are rumors that an investigation IS Happening into the foundation. A plane full of boxes went to Mena, AK where their foundation is headquartered and left filled with boxes. So we will see if anything come of that and what happened because of her use of her private server.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

That would also explain why nobody stopped her and even POTUS ignored the fact that he was emailing her with official communications on a non-dot.gov address. Isn't that the simpler explanation, even if it's not the most satisfying one?

I first suggested this several years ago, when I first heard about the server. But, until we get some sort of explanation that makes sense, I will accept the official story that she set up the unauthorized server in a pique of anger at the NSA after being denied a set of clones of the Obama phone for herself and her closest aides, and nobody stepped in and stopped her seemingly because she was above being told what to do. So, fuck her, seems to be what the authorized version tells us. But, she indeed got away with it. So, fuck us for even going there.

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it's more likely she had regular national and international dealings for years in her own personal communications, and when she became Secretary of State she knew all of her every day communications would become part of the National Archives, which was unacceptable, so she removed her correspondence from the government system. She knew the NSA and CIA would be aware of her whole arrangement as well as of her dealings, but since they also support her dealings, that was no threat. The whole subject would not have become public knowledge if it hadn't arisen in a Congressional hearing.

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Made great binge watching. More seriously, if there is any validity to this story, and the lowliest Member of the House Committee knows the contents of such an IG Report, the higher ups knew long ago but for some reason kept their mouths shut. Only one thing would do that, and that would be a deal between all the stakeholders that amounts to Mutually Assured Destruction for them all should anyone go public before this is supposed to. Or, maybe they all agreed not to ever publicly agree to acknowledge the most serious crimes? MAD might be a better metaphor.

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Assured Destruction is not only an appropriate metaphor, but it essentially puts us all on notice. This occurred to me all the time I was shaking my head with confusion over why Mueller was doing NOTHING to solve the anthrax crime over a period of years during which the biological weapons "community" was making public statements about the fact that only a handful of people, worldwide, could have weaponized anthrax. They gave him the names and locations of those people. Yet nothing was done. No one was detained. No one was brought to justice. And they're still out there. In fact George W. Bush gave them more funding.

So we're held hostage by a criminal element that can take us all out. I mean, I don't know what else you can deduce from Mueller's anthrax history. Just plain treason, or he prevented a catastrophe.

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@Linda Wood In order to protect his overlords, the psychopath ruined Bruce Ivins's reputation and, as it turned out, his life.

There's no word in the English language sufficiently strong enough to express my hatred of and for these people.

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Pretty much the whole thing states that the players who investigated her covered up her crimes as well as the bit players like Bill and Lynch when they met on the tarmac.

Jonathon Turley said that he thought it was a better move to let someone like Huber look into the investigation that setting up another special council. I will try to find that article later today.

The IG report was only covered by the media for one day and then we learned about Trump separating kids from their parents. But that had been going on for 6 weeks or longer so why did it come to light then? So that the IG report would get no further coverage. It was that damming.

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@leveymg
of the kind of deals she was making as Secretary of State illustrating why she might have wanted her communications to be secret. I post this article, published during the 2016 primaries, in case anyone is reading this discussion still wondering what she's ever done to raise distrust. I have added the bold type.

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/hillary-clinton-fracking/

Hillary Clinton’s Energy Initiative Pressed Countries to Embrace Fracking, New Emails Reveal
Lee Fang, Steve Horn
The Intercept
May 23 2016

… emails obtained by The Intercept show that State Department officials worked closely with private sector oil and gas companies, pressed other agencies within the Obama administration to commit federal government resources including technical assistance for locating shale reserves, and distributed agreements with partner nations pledging to help secure investments for new fracking projectsThe campaign included plans to spread the drilling technique to China, South Africa, Romania, Morocco, Bulgaria, Chile, India, Pakistan, Argentina, Indonesia, and Ukraine

... A number of energy companies that worked closely with the State Department now employ lobbyists that are fundraising furiously for Clinton’s campaign. ExxonMobil’s top lobbyist, as well as lobbyists for liquefied natural gas terminals designed to connect the U.S. to the global gas market, are among the most prolific fundraisers.

… The Global Shale Gas Initiative, Clinton’s program for promoting fracking, was announced on April 7, 2010, by David Goldwyn, the State Department’s special envoy for energy affairs, at the United States Energy Association (USEA), whose members include Chevron, ExxonMobil, ConocoPhillips, and Shell.

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@leveymg House of Cards was not fiction.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

e.g.: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/29/fbi-refutes-report-promoted-by-trump-tha...

The Daily Caller's story appears to have originated not with the Justice Department, but from a claim by Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, who said during a July House committee hearing that virtually all of Clinton's emails had been obtained by a "foreign entity." The source of his knowledge, Gohmert said, was a report produced by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, a CIA watchdog agency.

The Daily Caller did not confirm the existence of such a report, instead citing an anonymous former intelligence officer who it said had been briefed on what the ICIG report contained.

In pushing back on the Daily Caller's story, however, the FBI on Wednesday pointed to its own report, issued by the Justice Department Inspector General in June. That report said the "FBI investigation and its forensic analysis did not find evidence that Clinton's email server systems were compromised."

If you have it, and share with us, I will give you one of my cupcakes. Wink

P.S - everything that has emerged to date about the server suggests a slow roll effort to run out the clock. 5 year Statute of limitations apply to Sec 793 violations for mishandling classified materials.

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@leveymg

and that is what Grassley s referring to? If so then yes the IG report came out in July IIRC and it was essayed it here when it did. But as I stated down thread it was kicked off the MSN feeds just days after it came out by the immigrants being separated from their parents story.

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@leveymg The ICIG report referenced by Rep. Louie Gohmert was an internal report by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, Chuck Mc Cullough. This is one in which two members of his staff personally met with Peter Strzok because of their grave concern that a foreign government had accessed all but four of Clinton's emails via her private server. The report was ignored by both the FBI and the DoJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General found an anomaly on Hillary Clinton’s emails going through their private server, and when they had done the forensic analysis, they found that her emails, every single one except four, over 30,000, were going to an address that was not on the distribution list,” Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert of Texas said during a hearing with FBI official Peter Strzok.

ICIG, Chuck McCullough also received pushback from Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper as well as some Democratic members of Congress on the same subject of the Clinton emails, nearly all of which went to a foreign government, not Russia. To my knowledge, this report has never been made public and the only way we know about it is because Gohmert brought it up in the Peter Strzok hearings.

In late 2017, ICIG Chuck McCullough — who was appointed by former President Barack Obama — took the unusual step of coming forward publicly to say that he received pushback after he began raising the alarm about issues with Hillary Clinton’s servers to then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

The report that most of us think of is a different one. This report was made public in Congressional hearings and was the report by DoJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Horowitz himself testified along with FBI Director, Christopher Wray, in those hearings. Based upon information from internal leaks, the version presented to Congress was the most watered down of three versions of the same report generated by Horowitz's office and edited by Assistant Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein.

I hope this helps clear things up as to which report is which.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Merely suggested there is an alternative explanation for why Clinton wasn't stopped from using her unauthorized server until the day she left office. HRC never used the State Dept. system. We all know why she hasn't been prosecuted.

On edit: I was referring to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) report that Gomhert is talking about. Believe you are referring to the June DOJ Inspector General report. That is probably the basis of any confusion here.

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@leveymg
respect the view that there are many ways to see this situation. So when I describe my viewpoint, I should say, this is the way it looks to me. The way it looks to me is that this is business as usual, except that Ms. Clinton, possibly using the women-can-get-away-with-looking-flakey card, flightily took her multinational dealings home to her private server, what with her hair appointments and her daughter's yoga class, etc. Or that the CIA figured they could get away with having her do that, whereas they might not have been able to get away with it in John Kerry's case. Whatever.

This is what the State Department does. It arranges public funding or guarantees for private investment overseas for a historically untouchable clientele. Nothing new. Very old. Now there's email.

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and i hate to be a bit of a Toad in the Punch Bowl, esp. not having read the IG report, but these dates were baffling to me:

Daily caller: Gohmert: Watchdog Found Clinton Emails Were Sent To ‘Foreign Entity’, 07/12/2018

oddly, the gateway pundit is dated aug. 28, 2018, quoting the daily caller 8/27/2018, same article, but no video, and different author author as yours at the top: luke rosiak. but “A Chinese-owned company penetrated former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private server, according to sources briefed on the matter.”...mmm. I may have mucked up those two reports, if so, sorry).

shipp at nworeport.me; this made me chuckle: ““Yes,” Shipp agrees. “This is a case of subversion, with the election of Barack Obama, the connection to the Muslim Brotherhood, the donations and connections from George Soros, to destroy U.S. Sovereignty.”

business insider, Doina Chiacu, Reuters quoting the NYT, May 21, 2017:

“The breach was considered particularly damaging, with the number of assets lost rivaling those in the Soviet Union and Russia who perished after information passed to Moscow by spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen, the report said. Ames was active as a spy in the 1980s and Hanssen from 1979 to 2001.”

sounds like agitprop against china (X, beijing?) and russia, to me; what am i missing? everything? kinda reminded me of ‘Kremlin Sources Go Quiet Leaving CIA in the Dark About Putin’s Plans for Midterms’, yanno?

has louis gomert raised the roof (beam carpenters)? but i seriously ♥ 'MAD'; sounds about right.

may i ask what was the first breadcrumb you'd found then followed to put this all together, Snoopy?

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Who ? What ??? umm...no !

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So goes the refrain of Dembot posters, whenever Trump says or does something awful (which is about every five minutes, best I can tell).

Reluctant as I am to disillusion the delusionals, it was Her, not her emails, that lost the election to Trump.

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That is linked below.

Long before that, three years ago, there was a combined ICIG and DOSIG referral letter that first confirmed that there were numerous classified documents among the DOS stash of email released by Clinton's lawyers from her server.

But, I haven't seen the Intelligence Community IG report into the server that Gohmert is referring to. Are you sure that has come out?

DOJ OIG Releases Report on Various Actions by the Federal Bureau ...
https://oig.justice.gov/press/2018/2018-06-14.pdf

Jun 14, 2018 - Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz announced .... investigation was opened by the FBI in July 2015 based on a referral from the ... that traversed Clinton's servers and other relevant evidence, ...

On edit: I am referring to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) report that Gohmert is talking about. Believe you are referring to the June DOJ Inspector General report. That is probably the basis of any confusion here.

(So many IG reports and so little comes of them. Kudos to anyone who has the attention span to read this far down in the thread, and Extra Bonus Points to anyone who is still following what we're talking about!)

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@leveymg My apologies. Yes, you are correct. There are multiple reports from two different Inspectors General. Most people do not know that there are 73 offices of Inspector General in the federal government.

As far as I know, the ICIG report (Intelligence Community Inspector General) has never been made public and I believe that it pre-dates the Horowitz report by some time. This is the report that Rep. Louie Gohmert referenced when questioning Peter Strzok. It is also the one in which it was found that all but four of Clinton's emails found their way to a foreign country which we now know was China.

The IG report most people here think of is the one from Michael Horowitz, Inspector General for the Department of Justice. The FBI is an agency under the Department of Justice. There were reportedly three versions of this IG report and the one which was made public is the most watered down version for various reasons, including perhaps evidence being used in grand jury investigations.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

It's an edited footage of C-SPAN coverage of the Judiciary Committee with Gohmert questioning Strzok

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4740875/gohmert-strzok

You'll have to click the link or paste it into your browser - video provider not supported here, or go to the Daily Caller video linked at the OP. Transcript of exchange in Daily Caller article linked in the OP:

The ICIG has not publicly disclosed the findings Gohmert described in the meeting between Rucker and Strzok, but the congressman said the watchdog can document them.

Thursday’s exchange is below:

Gohmert: You said earlier in this hearing you were concerned about a hostile foreign power affecting the election. Do you recall the former Intelligence Community Inspector General Chuck McCullough having an investigation into an anomaly found on Hillary Clinton’s emails?

Let me refresh your memory. The Intelligence Community Inspector General Chuck McCullough sent his investigator Frank Rucker along with an IGIC attorney Janette McMillan to brief you and Dean Chapelle and two other FBI personnel who I won’t name at this time, about an anomaly they had found on Hillary Clinton’s emails that were going to the private unauthorized server that you were supposed to be investigating?

Strzok: I remember meeting Mr. Rucker on either one or two occasions. I do not recall the specific content or discussions.

Gohmert: Mr. Rucker reported to those of you, the four of you there, in the presence of the ICIG attorney, that they had found this anomaly on Hillary Clinton’s emails going through their private server, and when they had done the forensic analysis, they found that her emails, every single one except four, over 30,000, were going to an address that was not on the distribution list. It was a compartmentalized bit of information that was sending it to an unauthorized source. Do you recall that?

Strzok: Sir, I don’t.

Gohmert: He went on the explain it. And you didn’t say anything, you thanked him, you shook his hand. The problem is it was going to an unauthorized source that was a foreign entity unrelated to Russia and from what you’ve said here, you did nothing more than nod and shake the man’s hand when you didn’t seem to be all that concerned about our national integrity of our election when it was involving Hillary Clinton. So the forensic examination was done by the ICIG — and they can document that — but you were given that information and you did nothing with it. And one of the things I found most egregious with Mr. Horowitz’s testimony, and — by the way Mr. Horowitz got a call four times from someone wanting to brief him about this, and he never returned the call.

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@leveymg

asking Strzok about why he did nothing when he was told about it. The video cuts off there, but I'm hoping that he pushed Strzok on why he didn't follow up on the report.

I read the IG report you posted above and it looks like the summary of what was found on the investigation.

This is the whole IG report that is over 500 pages. I've tried reading and posting some of it in previous essays on it when it came out as did Amanda, gulfgal and others. But there is so much information in it that it's hard for me to remember what it said. The gist of it though is that the FBI covered for Hillary using her private email server when there should have been something done about it.

Comey gave most of Hillary's staff immunity and then he didn't bother to question them. One was Cheryl Mills who was Hillary's attorney and then Comey let her sit in on Hillary's interview. Comey wasn't present nor was Hillary put under oath for it. Plus the FBI did not collect all of her computers or phones.

Here are some articles on the report and investigation. You can decide if the sites are credible or not. But since the MSM didn't cover it I'll look for it on alternative websites.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/06/19/ig-report-fbis-clinton-probe-reveals...

Before the report came out there was talk that there would be more than one report because of what Rosenstein wanted published.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/07/joe_digenova_doj_ig_r...

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/06/americans_need_plain_si...

There are more articles if you search for Huber IG report.

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There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?

@leveymg
thank you for bringing this exchange between Gohmert and Peter Strzok back up. This is another example of the FBI not caring about surveillance or penetration of the workings of Hillary Clinton's State Department emails or, as had been presented before, the DNC's emails.

We've been told the FBI tried and tried to alert junior IT people at the DNC that their system was bring hacked but that no one paid attention. Then, when it was clear Wikileaks was going to release DNC emails, suddenly the Mighty Wurlitzer went into overdrive and hired a half-baked Ukrainian Atlantic Council forensic investigator to establish Russian Cyrillic letters in the hacking evidence.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/07/brazile-blasts-incompetence-i...

Brazile blasts 'incompetence' in response to email hack at Wasserman Schultz-led DNC
November 7th, 2017
By Joseph Weber | Fox News

… the Brazile book laments "incompetence on both sides" that allegedly allowed the hacking problem to fester for months before top officials were made aware.

She says the FBI, after learning of the problem, only contacted the DNC IT department. The IT contractor on the other end went looking for a compromised computer, didn't find anything, and "let it go," she writes.

Brazile says this back-and-forth went on for weeks before the FBI provided additional details and the technician alerted a superior. Even then, it took seven months for Wasserman Schultz to be alerted.

"By the time Debbie finally found out about the hack, the Russians had been in the system for almost a year without anyone noticing," Brazile writes, questioning why the FBI didn't go directly to the DNC boss and why the IT contractor didn't go straight to a superior. The FBI did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News.

The book also revives allegations that the DNC was not very responsive to the Obama administration's warnings.

Brazile writes that a reporter had told her the FBI had been “calling and calling” the DNC about Russia possibly having hacked into the group’s electronic systems “but never got anyone to respond.”

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@Linda Wood

described here is that the CIA, NSA, or the FBI, or all three, were monitoring the DNC, that some lower level FBI technician tried to alert DNC lower level technicians, that higher level DNC operatives didn't care, because they knew they were being monitored, and that when Wikileaks announced it had emails (given to them by someone in the DNC or in law enforcement,) the CIA and DNC tried to conflate those early warnings with a Russian hacking myth.

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@Linda Wood

CrowdStrike's co-founder is the former head of the FBI's Cybersecurity Division. The Russia Hoax is a Deep State creation, which runs through all the Agencies, the State Department, Pentagon, DOJ , the West Wing, and key Think Tanks surrounding the Capitol.

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IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
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Proceed with caution.

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