American Empire Threatened By Peace In Korea
If there was ever a doubt that the American Empire does not value the lives and interests of the South Korean people, 2018 is proof.
In 2017 the people pushed out a corrupt, pro-war, pro-American Empire president and replaced her with a pro-peace president. The South Korean people had spoken, but the South Korean people don't vote in the U.S.
As a reward for its broader foray into diplomacy, North Korea wants a formal and official declared end to the decades-long Korean War that settled into an uneasy truce in 1953. South Korea wants this, too.But the United States, which first sent military forces to the Korean Peninsula in 1950 and still keeps 28,500 troops there, is not ready to agree to a peace declaration.
And why is the U.S. "not ready to agree to peace" in Korea? Amazingly the NY Times will shamelessly tell you something approaching the truth.
For some American officials, the troop presence in South Korea is not just a deterrent toward North Korea. It also helps the United States maintain a military footprint in Asia and a grand strategy of American hegemony.China has already begun challenging the United States’ military presence in Asia, which will only be reinforced as China becomes the world’s biggest economy and modernizes its military.
The officials also worry that President Moon Jae-in of South Korea might try to push for a lesser American military presence, or a weakening of the alliance, after an end-of-war declaration.
“For the United States, an end-of-war declaration or a peace declaration or a peace treaty has always had a broader context,” Mr. Yun said.
If the desires of the people of South Korea don't matter, then are they really an ally? Or a nation under foreign occupation?
North Korea wants an end to the war even more than South Korea does.
On Sunday, Mr. Bolton said in an interview on ABC’s “This Week” that his understanding was that Mr. Kim had said “yes” to a suggestion in April by President Moon Jae-in of South Korea that North Korea should “denuclearize” within one year. He said Mr. Moon had reported this to the United States.
That's what we supposedly want! The thing is that North Korea requires a permanent peace treaty BEFORE disarming. Which is a reasonable thing to demand, and South Korea is pushing for it as well.
Which is why the U.S. is refusing to concede the point.
This is not something new. The U.S. has been preventing peace in Korea since 1953.
Negotiations took place in Geneva in 1954 but no progress was made and no peace treaty eventuated. The U.S. Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, would not negotiate and was not prepared to shake the hand of Chinese Foreign Minister Zhou Enlai. Zhou described Dulles’ attitude as obstructionist. Other representatives, including those from Britain and Belgium, were privately critical of the approach of the United States at the conference. At the conclusion of the conference, Dulles, who became TIME’s Man of the Year for 1954, refused to agree to a proposed joint statement reflecting a common desire to achieve the peaceful settlement of the Korean question.
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They’ll catch on
if they aren’t, already.
Whatever the US gubmit tells you, reverse it. That’s where they’ve tripped up we, the people, too. But now that we’re catching on, we’re spreading the word.
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
More permanent occupation
Thanks for the link gjohn
wanted to bookmark this for future reference. Important point about media blackout.
question everything
Like clockwork
The exact opposite of what we are told.
And they don't know that we know.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Heh.
Well ‘the media’ has ‘reported’ this much.....
... apparently causing fears to grow !
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Ooops.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Why not?
The Russian interference ploy went over with nary a protest from the rubes so why not add more countries into the mix?
Crap! Am I going to have to learn how to spell those country's leaders names?
"Meddling" is such a vague word
And it has a bad connotation. Yet there is no crime called "meddling". But if we say that "Russia used legal means to try to stop the election of an anti-Russia President" it doesn't sound bad, does it? It actually sounds reasonable.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
America is scared of just about everything these days...
War! Peace! Happiness! Decent lives for the 99%!?
What a sorry place.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
My friend,
the whole world is becoming a sorry place.
Ain't the human race great!
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Health care coverage for all
regardless of circumstances.... still scary!!.......... (facepalm).
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I once tried to discuss Korea, war, and peace on DK...
... I spent the better part of the day writing a diary detailing how the warmongering US once totally destroyed Korea, and under a Democratic president at that. The last line went something like, "the lesson North Korea has surely learned is that the only surefire deterrent to US militarism is a nuclear arsenal, and can you blame them for thinking this?" The general response felt like I was dealing with John Bolton's office...
If it helps Trump, it must be bad.
There is no real substantial policy driven opposition to Trump within the dem party leadership and base. Simply reaction. Trump talks to NK. Well, talking to NK is bad. But go relatively quiet on issues such as "tax reform".
The peninsula is sitting on trillions in minerals. The US wants
easy access to those. Too bad such access would ruin Mt. Baekdu.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
If there was ever a doubt
The American Empire does not value life, of any kind, anywhere. Not even the lives of its own people.
The gaslighting began pretty early. A lot happened in the '50s, testing the American public to see how much it would fall for.
I wonder if TPTB (MIC, deep state, whatever you want to call it) knew ahead of time how easy it would be for them to get the populace to swallow the narrative hook, line and sinker.
"Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep ... Don't go back to sleep."
~Rumi
"If you want revolution, be it."
~Caitlin Johnstone
self-own
China has already begun
China has already begun challenging the United States’ military presence in Asia
Fancy that.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Then there is the climate angle
NK (which has metric s$&@loads of coal) has been trying to build a hydroelectric dam for about 17 years now but has been stymied by supply shortages.
(I’d put in a link to the nyt story but I can’t find it on line but you can read it in today’s print edition. This is not the first time this has happened to me after multiple searches...)
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
Why don't they get the resources from China?
That's what the USA does.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
the adult in the room no longer in the room
Dear James Mattis: Why Haven’t You Quit Yet?
Back on Dec 6, 2016
"defending America" through wars ...
the author lists humiliations of Mattis by Trump (does ass kissing get you up the ladder and you get hooked and don't know when to stop kissing those above and getting kissed by those below...)
a crisis is something that will pass
the war on terror will go on and on and spend more time and treasure and hasten the collapse of our empire
410 moves giving support to the Pentagon
do you have any thoughts about Zero Hedge?
am I too far out to look at it?
some strange stuff, but this
Here Are 410 Movies Made Under The Direct Influence And Supervision Of The Pentagon
the article has more about how they work together and a list of movies
A publisher was recently on Book TV. And he said
Thus he said, normal journalists don't know how to cover Trump
this article is a reminder how Hollywood supports the empire
I recalled the title of a book "amusing ourselves to death" by Neil Postman. It was published in 1985, 32 years ago.
I did a search and the book is on line in a pdf form
Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman
Chris Hedges has written that we are living in both 1984 and Brave New World.
Both together
Chris Hedges is dead on the money once again.
US just sanctioned some Russians over trade with N. Korea
Great. Add fuel to the fire. You know, Russia worked with US on Iran, maybe just maybe Russia might work with US over NK. Naw, Putin is evil.
As I stated before, back in the day, many argued that trade and engagement were power in reducing tensions and softening up dictatorship. Better to send bluejeans and rock and roll records to Soviet Union. Now it is all aggression.
I remember watching another xenophobic attack on Russians by TYT and Cenk went all raising his eyebrows about Russia establishing internet connections in NK. Oh there is evilness there. Hey NK let's have peace while we punch your face out.
Given Trump's accomplishments...
Given Trump's accomplishments thus far with NK, I don't see how you can make the claim that the Trump Administration is "Threatened By Peace in Korea". Trump is engaged in a hard line negotiation with NK and China (NK being a puppet of China) and it has reaped rather profoundly positive results, some might even say worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize, unlike Obama's farcical Nobel Peace Prize. Fact is, the Trump Admin is not gonna budge on any issue or sanction until NK agrees unilaterally to disarm and dismantle their entire Nuclear program. (or maybe they already have and all that we are watching is a kabuki show)
And btw, if you had been following the Q crumbs for the past 6 months, you would probably have far more questions about NK and Google and Eric Schmidt and the Deep State/CIA and the Autocratic Globalist Communist Cabal. Just sayin... #RedPill
Here are a few crumbs...
And if Q is not your cup of tea, here, read this thread by the ever insightful Thomas Wictor:
Want something more mainstream:
FORBES: This Could Be The Real Reason Why North Korea Stopped Its Nuclear Missile Tests