Media spin totally flips on socialism

Submitted by gjohnsit on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 10:08pm

My, my. How quickly the news media narrative change.

These article are from today.

Politico: Bernie and his army are losing 2018
Politico: Down Goes Socialism
Fox: Socialist torchbearers flame out in key races, despite blitz by Bernie Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez
USNews: The Far Left Is Losing
Yahoo: Candidates backed by Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez mostly got walloped

Pretty simple. Commies never stood a chance...today.
Two weeks ago the story was totally different.

July 21, PBS: Democratic socialism surging in the age of Trump
July 23, CSM: Democratic socialism on the rise in the Trump era
July 24, Washpost: Democratic socialists stage a summertime comeback
July 25, Newsday: Americans like socialism now
July 26, ConservativeReview: The rise of democratic socialism threatens the ‘blue wave’
August 1, LATimes: Democratic socialism has succeeded in many more places than it has failed

Gosh, you'd think that something significant had happened.
Fox and the conservative right had been in a panic that the socialists were taking over the Democratic Party.
Will they now report that it was a false alarm? Doubtful.

I've only seen one good article on this.

McElwee said no one should be surprised that progressive leftists tend to do better in deep-blue places like the Bronx and Detroit. It makes sense that first-time outsider candidates — particularly with new ideas — would have a harder time in the Midwest.
"Progressives tend to endorse underdog candidates," McElwee said. "Underdog candidates tend to lose — that's why they're called underdog candidates."

He added that as the progressive left grows, its candidates will improve in quality, viability, and diversity.

Before November 2017 the number of democratic socialists in elected office could be counted on your hands and toes, and all of them were in local elections.
Before 2018 is done there will be dozens more of them as incumbents. Some of them in major offices.

If the progressive insurgents aren't doing better in 2020, or if people have given up, then this reform effort has failed. But until then, this movement is still new.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 10:51pm

This shows how the media are told what they are

supposed to write about when there is a point to be made. That Kos went on MSDNC to talk about how the democrats need to start embracing socialism and the headlines you included shows that we do not have an independent media. We've known that for awhile, but it's nice to see proof now and then.

I've mentioned before that I start my internet day on huffpo to see what the major issue is going to be in the media and sure enough I'll see the same subject on the other websites I read. Reminds me of the video of the Sinclair anchors saying the same thing on in every state.

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
~Hannah Arendt

Submitted by JekyllnHyde on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 11:29pm

Here's What I Think is Happening

@snoopydawg

Most media outlets (and blogs like DK) were trumpeting a win by Hillary Clinton several weeks before the 2016 Election. Many were gloating about a strong Clinton win and humiliating loss by Donald Trump. Since Hillary's loss, it has dawned upon such cheerleaders that there is no way in hell that she'll run again. Her approval ratings have also declined a lot since November 2016.

It doesn't surprise me that since very few people believe that she'll run in 2020, therefore, according to their rationale, neither will - and should - Bernie Sanders. Markos said that "Bernie's moment has passed." In fact, all evidence points in the opposite direction and were you to ask me, I think Bernie has an excellent chance of being the nominee.

This negativity about Sanders is only meant to console people who bet on the wrong candidate in 2016. It's therapeutic for them and nothing more than that.

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A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

Submitted by Wink on Wed, 08/08/2018 - 10:57pm

Was disappointing, but not

the end of the world. Hell, I don't expect our local Dim candidate will win this year vs. the Repub congress critter. But I totally expect we'll win that Red seat in 2020! I totally expect "we" will win a bunch of seats in 2020! If not we can kiss the Berniecrat experiment goodbye, a resounding defeat. And kiss our ass goodbye, nothing to slow down the complete and udder rape & pillage of the country. Welcome Yellowstone Oil Company!

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Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 12:03am

The Dims have turned into a pack

of fuckwits. I doubt if they can recover before 2024.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksmm45rSFYo]

The only voice of reason in the MSM is Tucker Carlson. The Dims appear to be doubling down on teh stoopid.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=205&v=VomTBO7RASU]

Speaking of fuckwits, here's Rachel Madcow

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0krkHRBaVI]

Submitted by sny on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 12:22am

midwest???

McElwee said no one should be surprised that progressive leftists tend to do better in deep-blue places like the Bronx and Detroit. It makes sense that first-time outsider candidates — particularly with new ideas — would have a harder time in the Midwest.

I think somebody sat out of geography class. Detroit is not midwest?

I realize this is probably just a misstatement, but it bugs me a lot. Nothing hurts progressives more than this coastal belief that the midwest (especially the upper midwest) is bad for progressives. I have lived in all parts of the country and am currently in NYC, and there are tons of people here who think they are progressive because they support gays and are pro-choice but are otherwise not particularly progressive. Same for CA (sans the obvious pockets).

Submitted by doh1304 on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 3:28am

Honest question

@sny
What "obvious pockets"? I lived in San Francisco for 27 years and I almost never met anyone who wasn't an Elmer Gantry. (a complete and total hypocrite pretending to be a liberal, E.g. Diane Feinstein)

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On to Biden since 1973

Submitted by sny on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 8:41am

Blue CA

@doh1304
I was actually thinking berkeley (though its not what people stereotype it as). I am inclined to agree with you on SF, especially nowdays with the sil val hipsters moving in. SilVal itself is more libertarian blue than progressive blue.

CA, like NY, is more blue than progressive. In CA's case its because demographics changed when Rs (Wilson) were hating on the new demographics with the full support of the voters. I see a Bernie type having an easier time winning an upper midwest state like MN than CA.

Submitted by doh1304 on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 3:18pm

@sny

@sny
I generally agree, except that in the CA primary (where they announceed Hillary's victory the day before the voting) when write in and provisional ballots were (partially) counted Bernie was winning 3-1 (then they stopped counting)

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On to Biden since 1973

Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 12:22am

Sick of the hysteria & panic mongering

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGdNEzB3KkI]

Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 9:07am

#demexit was real

@CB
#walkaway feels fake

Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 9:41am

From what I've seen

@gjohnsit
the core of #WalkAway's were #demexit's.

You're thinking it's Russian bots?

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnnBEr-7-Rk]

Here's how I feel about the entire political shit pot(PS - the title IS sarcastic). The Democratic Party will NEVER change until it is completely destroyed and it's ashes thrown to the winds. The game is rigged. You saw it being played at DKos. That site is representative of everything I despise about the current Democratic Party.

Ten Things That Are More Selfish, Stupid And Privileged Than Voting Green Party
Caitlin Johnstone
...
It’s easy to advocate incrementalism when you’re not living hand to mouth. It’s selfish to think that acting on climate change can be rolled out over many decades so as not to upset the corporate donors of your favorite politicians. It’s height of entitlement to close the door to progressives inside the Democratic Party, and then throw a hissy fit when they vote for another party. It’s hypocritical to hyperventilate about election-rigging Russians while secretly, and then openly, rigging primaries against progressives.

Supporting the continued existence of a fake two-party system which advances exploitative agendas hurts the most vulnerable populations in America and in the entire world. Acting self-righteous because you actively support that system while spitting on the people who are trying to change it is selfish, is stupid, is hypocritical, and is a mark of extreme privilege.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 9:58am

#walkaway started on Fox News

@CB
and other conservative sites, with people complaining how the Dems are "too liberal".

That stinks of astroturf.

Hell, your first video starts with the guy saying "I'm done with the left."
So much for ideology.

#demexit was started by Bernie supporters after the DNC emails.

That's my call anyway. Your mileage may vary.

Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 10:58am

I'm also done with the left

@gjohnsit

Antifa, SJW's, Russia, Russia, Russia, war mongering in every corner of the world and lie after lie after lie after lie. The fucking left has done nothing for me for two decades. The still continuing bullshit from Hillary and her cohorts in the media to explain away her well-deserved loss has completely turned me off. In fact, if they try to play the same bullshit games in 2020 I'll vote for Trump just to give them another well deserved ass kicking.

The best thing the Dims can do for their future is dump the Clinton infestation/cabal.

Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 11:19am

None of those things are "the left"

@CB

Antifa, SJW's, Russia, Russia, Russia, war mongering in every corner of the world

You mus accept that the Dems constitute all left-wing politics to put the blame here.

Submitted by dkmich on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 12:58pm

WTF is the left? It has no definition.

@gjohnsit @gjohnsit

It is like saying "blue". Everyone sees their own color of blue.

I believe the system is so corrupt and reform so impossible that any involvement in the political process is a total waste of time, particularly mine. Howard Dean and Kos suckered me back in the day, and I kept my wallet shut until Bernie. After Bernie, I swear never again.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 1:37pm

The left is an ideology, not a party

@dkmich
Socialism, environmentalism, labor movement, etc.

For example, the Green Party fits into The Left better than the Dems do.
If all those reasons you hate "the left" fits with the Dems and not the Greens, then your problem isn't with The Left.

Submitted by dkmich on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 2:23pm

I know that, but it doesn't matter.

@gjohnsit

You are an educated person. You use reason and facts in your reasoning and discourse. Everyone is not like you. Add in the deliberate obfuscation of the term by the right and centrist Democrats, and it has lost all meaning to most people.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

Submitted by gjohnsit on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 2:38pm

I understand

@dkmich
and that's a good point
But it's dangerous to just let that go unchallenged.

Submitted by The Aspie Corner on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 11:48am

If those guys are left-wing, then I'm the Queen of England.

@CB Those assholes abandoned left-wing politics when they started defending capitalism and empire based entirely on IdPol reasons, i.e. "Assad has to go because he's transphobic", "Economic issues are bourgeois concerns because racism/sexism". Both sides of this clusterfuck adhere to the same core bullshit of capitalism and empire so it doesn't really matter who wins. Trolling the fake left with a Trump vote won't help any damn thing.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 4:11pm

It helped to get Trump elected in 2016

@The Aspie Corner

Most of the people I know now hate Hillary more than they do Trump. The bitch has done more to dirty political discourse (with the help of the deep state) than any other political figure since Nixon.

Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 11:12am

Benjamin A Boyce explains #WalkAway

@gjohnsit

and how it counters the Dims identity politics.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_heWx_SZKU]

Submitted by CB on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 3:59pm

BTW, #WalkAway was not started by Fox

@gjohnsit
and it is NOT astroturfed. There is little from the #WalkAway comments about being too liberal.

Fox was the only MSM to actually interview Brandon Straka about a week after he posted on Tacebook/Youtube.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsrPYUazq8]

All of the "left" media followed Huffington's derision of it being a Russian psyop.

Russian Bots Linked To Viral Twitter Attacks On 'Hateful' Dems
Is this a preview of stepped-up activity before the midterm elections?

In what may be an early onslaught of Kremlin-linked Twitter attacks ahead of the U.S. midterm elections, Russia bots appear to be fueling a wave of criticism targeting Democrats over alleged intimidation in political confrontations and a lack of “civility,” according to bot trackers.

Attacks with the hashtag #WalkAway purport to be from a “grassroots” wave of one-time Democrats who have left the party in part because they say they are so incensed by the hateful and divisive behavior of party members. The message is to “walk away” from ugly confrontations, “intolerance” and hate — and from the Democratic Party.

But the hashtag has been connected to Russian bots. It has ranked as the third or fourth most popular Kremlin-linked hashtag for days, according to bot tracking by the Hamilton 68 site run by the bipartisan Alliance for Securing Democracy, which keeps tabs on Russian activity on the American internet.
...

Russian bots are back: #WalkAway attack on Democrats is a likely Kremlin operation
Are real-life Democrats leaving the party in disgust? No, but Russian-fueled online trolls want you to think so

A little more than a year ago, I posted and pinned the following predictive tweet: “Get ready. A year from right now we'll be up to our asses in Russian fake news, malware, hacks, mayhem aimed at the midterms. Pinning this.” Granted, it wasn’t a difficult forecast knowing what we knew at the time.
...
To be clear: This isn’t being circulated by earnest yet misguided voters who formerly identified as Democrats. This is clearly being circulated by trolls connected to the Russian influence operations. #WalkAway has obvious roots in the 2016 primaries, when Russian trolls attempted to turn liberal or left-wing voters against casting general election ballots for the eventual Democratic nominee (either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton), thus diminishing Democratic turnout. The same goal applies here.
...

Submitted by Linda Wood on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 11:31am

Caitlin's

@CB

remarks are so good, especially this:

It’s hypocritical to hyperventilate about election-rigging Russians while secretly, and then openly, rigging primaries against progressives.

In fact, I suspect the Democrats' entire hysteria is over their legal responsibility for rigging the 2016 primaries.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 08/10/2018 - 2:20am

Heh!

@Linda Wood

This is the biggest point that Russia Gaters refuse to look at and I find it funnier than hell. Hillary and Podesta 'colluded' to make up the meme of Russia interfering with the election after they found out that Wikileaks was going to post emails that showed how the primary rigged against Bernie.

Very hypocritical indeed. But then they don't believe that happened. Selective reality.

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 10:35am

I'm seeing all kinds of unusual behaviors

@CB

...peaking in the social realm. Thanks for posting this clip. It's familiar in two ways for me because it also has a foreign perspective secondary to the perspective of a Democrat who assumed the Party would remain value-consistent forever — and then abruptly woke to the Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The last time they checked, the glory days of the New Deal had won the hearts and minds of the body politic. So, being confronted with "Stepford Democrats" who will swear to your face that they are, and have always been, the Real Democrats. "You must have been hallucinating," if you thought FDR was relevant, ever, they say.

The folks having this experience, which is everyone who paid attention to the 2016 Primaries, are not all reeling from the experience, but a significant percentage of them blinked and took a step back. They are not walking away with a hashtag, and have not expressed themselves as this chap did, but they are still blinking and standing still. They've watched the pussyhat brigades and witnessed the emergence of the Right Wing Democrats, who now dominate the Party with their divisive and dishonest intellectual betrayals, large and small. They are far more offended by the betraying Democrats than the truly awful Republicans. It feels personal. With every passing day, more will take one step back, quietly. I've seen this before. They are going to answer the polls as Democrats, and maybe vote that way one more time, as a test. But I predict they are going to find another way, come 2020.

Submitted by Lily O Lady on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 12:38pm

Your comment is so good, PR, we should have it bronzed! It says

@Pluto's Republic

everything about disillusionment with Dems.

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"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 2:43pm

Why thanks, Lily O Lady

@Lily O Lady

I'm glad you can relate to it.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 1:50am

More Russian spin

Dem senator: Russians have 'penetrated' some Florida election systems

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) on Wednesday said Russian hackers had successfully "penetrated" some of Florida's election systems ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

"They have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about," Nelson told the Tampa Bay Times.

Nelson said leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee encouraged him and fellow Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R) to notify Florida state election supervisors that "the Russians are in their records," according to the report.

Nelson told the news outlet that the state has to act quickly, emphasizing that Russia is trying to undermine faith in the U.S. democratic system.

The specifics of the activity remain unclear, including which counties were targeted and why it is believed to be the work of Russians.

Well then it's a good thing that congress is going to put sanctions from hell on Russia for election interference isn't it? This will tell the wascaly Wussions that they better cease and desist trying to make our democracy a joke and sowing discord that is tearing the country apart.

I'm sure that Nelson has proof that this happened right? I'm mean that he wouldn't get people to freak out that our elections are not secure from outside interference.

DHS spokesperson Sara Sendek, however, says the law enforcement agency has not observed the new activity Nelson mentioned on Wednesday.

“While we are aware of Senator Nelson’s recent statements, we have not seen any new compromises by Russian actors of election infrastructure," Sendek said in a statement, noting "a number of initiatives" that help Florida officials secure their election systems.

“We know that in 2016 Russian government cyber actors sought access to U.S. election infrastructure as part of a multifaceted operation directed at the U.S. elections. We continue to assess Russian actors were not able to access vote tallying systems, though we consider all 50 states to have been potential targets," she added.

Now through in something that is unrelated to the Florida election just for giggles.

Special counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russia's 2016 election interference, last month indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for their involvement in the Democratic National Committee hack. He has also charged other Russian entities for carrying out sophisticated disinformation campaigns during the 2016 presidential race.

A few comments about this:

"I believe they hacked Delaware County in Ohio last night!"

..."Do you have proof of this"

...."Don’t need it anymore. We’ve lost the mere appearance of fairness and it won’t return until it is proven that elections are safe, not the other way around."

....."Now that Trump is accusing Russia of helping Democrats, and we know they helped Republicans in 2016, it is the new normal for everyone. They have succeeded in undermining people’s faith in the election system. Without that there is no legitimacy of the governing body no matter who it is doing the governing. At that point the only means of stability is use of force."

....."Of course they don’t care. Without Russian assistance, they’d have to gerrymander and vote suppress MUCH more vigorously, and sometimes they run into judges that aren’t on their payroll. Having the Russians do it invisibly is much more efficient." (???)

......"You really want to fuck shit up, Russia? Rub your hacking capabilities right in our face? Wait until election night this November and then start randomly changing vote counts in real time, in plain sight, on the globally-broadcast World stage." (Okay and then what?)

......"I guess the republicans could prevent that by letting Putin annex our country and becoming the colony of New Russiastan, but otherwise this short term power grab ain’t gonna end well for them."

And here's the winner!

"Putin elected Trump, read your own article!

GOP's damning actions?...instead of being alarmed,...the GOP’s made Putin's hacking & vote switching even easier by cutting funding for voting security!
-------------
Therefore, Paper ballots are essential to prevent Putin from controlling our government!

The treasonous GOP has by these very actions, confirmed that they're colluded w/Putin
to fraudulently elect Trump by “flipping” Electoral College votes!
-------------
And,... the GOP’s are still continuing to treasonously collude w/Putin
to "maintain" the GOP’s corrupt control of our government!

But I thought Putin was in control of our government?

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Submitted by The Aspie Corner on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 9:30am

Bill Nelson may as well run in the Repig Primary.

@snoopydawg

Dem senator: Russians have 'penetrated' some Florida election systems

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) on Wednesday said Russian hackers had successfully "penetrated" some of Florida's election systems ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

"They have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about," Nelson told the Tampa Bay Times.

Nelson said leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee encouraged him and fellow Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R) to notify Florida state election supervisors that "the Russians are in their records," according to the report.

Nelson told the news outlet that the state has to act quickly, emphasizing that Russia is trying to undermine faith in the U.S. democratic system.

The specifics of the activity remain unclear, including which counties were targeted and why it is believed to be the work of Russians.

Well then it's a good thing that congress is going to put sanctions from hell on Russia for election interference isn't it? This will tell the wascaly Wussions that they better cease and desist trying to make our democracy a joke and sowing discord that is tearing the country apart.

I'm sure that Nelson has proof that this happened right? I'm mean that he wouldn't get people to freak out that our elections are not secure from outside interference.

DHS spokesperson Sara Sendek, however, says the law enforcement agency has not observed the new activity Nelson mentioned on Wednesday.

“While we are aware of Senator Nelson’s recent statements, we have not seen any new compromises by Russian actors of election infrastructure," Sendek said in a statement, noting "a number of initiatives" that help Florida officials secure their election systems.

“We know that in 2016 Russian government cyber actors sought access to U.S. election infrastructure as part of a multifaceted operation directed at the U.S. elections. We continue to assess Russian actors were not able to access vote tallying systems, though we consider all 50 states to have been potential targets," she added.

Now through in something that is unrelated to the Florida election just for giggles.

Special counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russia's 2016 election interference, last month indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for their involvement in the Democratic National Committee hack. He has also charged other Russian entities for carrying out sophisticated disinformation campaigns during the 2016 presidential race.

A few comments about this:

"I believe they hacked Delaware County in Ohio last night!"

..."Do you have proof of this"

...."Don’t need it anymore. We’ve lost the mere appearance of fairness and it won’t return until it is proven that elections are safe, not the other way around."

....."Now that Trump is accusing Russia of helping Democrats, and we know they helped Republicans in 2016, it is the new normal for everyone. They have succeeded in undermining people’s faith in the election system. Without that there is no legitimacy of the governing body no matter who it is doing the governing. At that point the only means of stability is use of force."

....."Of course they don’t care. Without Russian assistance, they’d have to gerrymander and vote suppress MUCH more vigorously, and sometimes they run into judges that aren’t on their payroll. Having the Russians do it invisibly is much more efficient." (???)

......"You really want to fuck shit up, Russia? Rub your hacking capabilities right in our face? Wait until election night this November and then start randomly changing vote counts in real time, in plain sight, on the globally-broadcast World stage." (Okay and then what?)

......"I guess the republicans could prevent that by letting Putin annex our country and becoming the colony of New Russiastan, but otherwise this short term power grab ain’t gonna end well for them."

And here's the winner!

"Putin elected Trump, read your own article!

GOP's damning actions?...instead of being alarmed,...the GOP’s made Putin's hacking & vote switching even easier by cutting funding for voting security!
-------------
Therefore, Paper ballots are essential to prevent Putin from controlling our government!

The treasonous GOP has by these very actions, confirmed that they're colluded w/Putin
to fraudulently elect Trump by “flipping” Electoral College votes!
-------------
And,... the GOP’s are still continuing to treasonously collude w/Putin
to "maintain" the GOP’s corrupt control of our government!

But I thought Putin was in control of our government?

—

Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

Submitted by Dr. John Carpenter on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 6:28pm

What does this even mean?

@snoopydawg

They have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about

Ok, I’m in IT. I am having a really hard time getting my head around his quote. “Russians got into our systems and golly there’s just nothing we can do about it but watch them run amuck.” I call bullshit. This just isn’t the way things work in the IT world. And if this is what he’s saying, we’ll looks like it’s time to go back to paper ballotts. Drives me nuts that no one will call these people on this.

Dem senator: Russians have 'penetrated' some Florida election systems

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) on Wednesday said Russian hackers had successfully "penetrated" some of Florida's election systems ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

"They have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about," Nelson told the Tampa Bay Times.

Nelson said leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee encouraged him and fellow Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R) to notify Florida state election supervisors that "the Russians are in their records," according to the report.

Nelson told the news outlet that the state has to act quickly, emphasizing that Russia is trying to undermine faith in the U.S. democratic system.

The specifics of the activity remain unclear, including which counties were targeted and why it is believed to be the work of Russians.

Well then it's a good thing that congress is going to put sanctions from hell on Russia for election interference isn't it? This will tell the wascaly Wussions that they better cease and desist trying to make our democracy a joke and sowing discord that is tearing the country apart.

I'm sure that Nelson has proof that this happened right? I'm mean that he wouldn't get people to freak out that our elections are not secure from outside interference.

DHS spokesperson Sara Sendek, however, says the law enforcement agency has not observed the new activity Nelson mentioned on Wednesday.

“While we are aware of Senator Nelson’s recent statements, we have not seen any new compromises by Russian actors of election infrastructure," Sendek said in a statement, noting "a number of initiatives" that help Florida officials secure their election systems.

“We know that in 2016 Russian government cyber actors sought access to U.S. election infrastructure as part of a multifaceted operation directed at the U.S. elections. We continue to assess Russian actors were not able to access vote tallying systems, though we consider all 50 states to have been potential targets," she added.

Now through in something that is unrelated to the Florida election just for giggles.

Special counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russia's 2016 election interference, last month indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for their involvement in the Democratic National Committee hack. He has also charged other Russian entities for carrying out sophisticated disinformation campaigns during the 2016 presidential race.

A few comments about this:

"I believe they hacked Delaware County in Ohio last night!"

..."Do you have proof of this"

...."Don’t need it anymore. We’ve lost the mere appearance of fairness and it won’t return until it is proven that elections are safe, not the other way around."

....."Now that Trump is accusing Russia of helping Democrats, and we know they helped Republicans in 2016, it is the new normal for everyone. They have succeeded in undermining people’s faith in the election system. Without that there is no legitimacy of the governing body no matter who it is doing the governing. At that point the only means of stability is use of force."

....."Of course they don’t care. Without Russian assistance, they’d have to gerrymander and vote suppress MUCH more vigorously, and sometimes they run into judges that aren’t on their payroll. Having the Russians do it invisibly is much more efficient." (???)

......"You really want to fuck shit up, Russia? Rub your hacking capabilities right in our face? Wait until election night this November and then start randomly changing vote counts in real time, in plain sight, on the globally-broadcast World stage." (Okay and then what?)

......"I guess the republicans could prevent that by letting Putin annex our country and becoming the colony of New Russiastan, but otherwise this short term power grab ain’t gonna end well for them."

And here's the winner!

"Putin elected Trump, read your own article!

GOP's damning actions?...instead of being alarmed,...the GOP’s made Putin's hacking & vote switching even easier by cutting funding for voting security!
-------------
Therefore, Paper ballots are essential to prevent Putin from controlling our government!

The treasonous GOP has by these very actions, confirmed that they're colluded w/Putin
to fraudulently elect Trump by “flipping” Electoral College votes!
-------------
And,... the GOP’s are still continuing to treasonously collude w/Putin
to "maintain" the GOP’s corrupt control of our government!

But I thought Putin was in control of our government?

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 08/10/2018 - 2:33am

Darn good question

@Dr. John Carpenter

I understand why it drives you nuts when people won't stop to question the narrative when it's thrown out there with out any proof that it happened.

Countless journalists will say that 'something happened', but won't offer any evidence of it and people will repeat what they wrote. Or journalists will report on something that is so outrageous that comes from unnamed sources or someone who wasn't authorized to say it and people will believe that it's true. Then it becomes like that telephone game where one person tells another one something and by the time it gets back to the first person the message is totally garbled.

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Submitted by The Aspie Corner on Thu, 08/09/2018 - 7:41am

The pigs will never allow the left to have any say.

But that won't stop idiots and their demagogues from constantly bashing those who have no power.

We will never be allowed to talk about class issues because racism/sexism.

"If you don't vote for Hillary, you're racist/sexist!!!!11!"

We will never be able to talk about economic issues because class warfare.

"What? Tax the rich? They're job creators!!! This is class warfare!!!!11!"

We will never be able to talk about environmental issues because economic terrorism.

"Those tree huggers care more about some trees and bugs than they do about creating jobs!!!11! They're economic terrorists!!!!11!"

The pigs control the narrative at every turn and we have no effective way to fight back. This dumbass country has no revolutionary potential. Prove me wrong.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.