Outside the Asylum

Some folks here at caucus99percent have asked those of us who reject mainstream political assumptions to start explaining more clearly what we DO believe. This thread is my response to that. I'm going to use this thread to uncover and piece together my own political philosophy. I also would like this thread to provide a place for everybody's questioning of assumptions, the more fundamental the better--and not just assumptions I want to question! I hope that everybody feels free to bring their own questioning and imaginings to the table.

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Brass Tacks

It's fine to theorize about temporary autonomous zones--and semi-permanent ones--but to function as part of politics, TAZ and SPAZ need to be practical.

I should be careful here, because pragmatism is a colonized concept and has been for over 25 years. Those who don't support the status quo are always told by those who do that their politics is not practical. In reality, it's impossible to tell whether someone is being practical unless you specify what their goals are. "Practical" means "something that works out in practice," and if you're working something out in practice, you're probably trying to do something. So, tell me what you're trying to achieve, and I'll tell you whether I think your approach is pragmatic or not. Pragmatism only exists in the context of a goal. One cannot be generally impractical.

Let me give you an example. Saying "bicycles are an impractical mode of transport" is wrong. Saying "bicycles are an impractical mode of transport in twentieth-century American cities built to serve the internal combustion engine" is right. What is left out of the first sentence, and included in the second, is history: the history of economic, political, and moral choices made by human beings. In its absence, a false sense of inevitability flourishes which, if accepted as true, inspires bad analysis, bad decisions, and bad politics.

Say my goal is to create TAZ and SPAZ habitable to people with my worldview and inured to the poisonous propaganda that circulates through the general air. In that case, "practical" means the following: some of us need to know what TAZ and SPAZ are, know how to create conditions likely to produce a TAZ or SPAZ, and how to tell if they're in a TAZ or not. This is particularly true because TAZ is the foundation stone of my politics, the basic idea from which I extrapolate everything else that I conceive and might one day do. If I don't have a practical grasp of TAZ and SPAZ my politics will collapse into nothing but some pretty ideas. This is, of course, what supporters of the American political system always say is true of people like me.

There aren't exactly diagrammed instructions for how to build a TAZ like there are for IKEA bookcases. In fact, it seems to me that the creation of temporary autonomous zones is often an unintentional side effect of some other purpose. For example, at certain points in history, Mardi Gras has been a TAZ, but Mardi Gras as a festival originated not in a plan to create a TAZ, but from people's desire to live it up before Lent. That TAZ was an unintended consequence of the Christian predilection for self-denial at certain seasons. Someone mentioned that PRIDE used to be a TAZ. That's true, but again, nobody sat down (I don't think) and said: "How can we create a space that exists outside the control of the hegemony?" A lot of people said "We're tired of being constantly shamed, and we aren't going to take it anymore." That TAZ originated in people's desire to live without shame.

I've been using an architectural metaphor for the temporary autonomous zone, talking of foundation stones and such, but in some ways a TAZ acts more like a natural thing than the product of artifice. It's like a chemical reaction: certain ingredients come together under certain conditions and presto! a new molecule or chemical compound forms. In much the same way, temporary autonomous zones seem to arise more often than they are deliberately created. They seem less under conscious control than, say, a military coup or a Five Year Plan.

There *are* times when a TAZ is created consciously. I would bet that the anarchists who began Occupy probably knew Bey's work, or at least had heard of it, and knew what they were doing. Burning Man seems to have had some similar intent at its creation, and it arguably still functions as a TAZ for the large number of libertarians who attend (not all autonomous zones nourish views I support). I think it's possible that the medieval All Fools' Day, where the social classes were, to some extent, temporarily reversed and the social order turned upside down, was also consciously intended for the purpose of allowing the lower orders to let off steam.

Yet even Occupy was noteworthy for the vagueness of the call in Adbusters that began it all. People were called to occupy public space for an indefinite period of time to protest the government's protection of Wall St criminals. Compare that to the boycott of Nestle or United Fruit, to the defense of women's health clinics, to civil disobedience in protest against the Vietnam War, to petitions for rent control--or campaigns to get someone elected. All of these more ordinary political actions are much more planned and specific, much more directed and controlled. In contrast to those efforts, the call to Occupy could be summed up as: Be Present For a While in Public.

Some have said that caucus99percent is a TAZ. Hakim Bey would have serious problems with this notion, and I'll deal with that below, but let's say for the sake of argument that caucus99percent is a TAZ, or more likely a SPAZ. If so, this autonomous zone, like Occupy, was quite consciously created: we were deliberately trying to create a place where people could evade certain kinds of ideological control. But you'll notice that, like Occupy, we defined very little beyond being broadly left-wing, populist, and rational.

Perhaps creating a TAZ or SPAZ requires one to leave unbuilt, unplanned spaces, room for the new phenomenon--whatever it may be--to emerge. Creating one seems to be more a matter of bringing certain ingredients together and giving them space to react than of blueprints. So, what are the ingredients? Or, at least, what elements are usually present?

The most obvious ingredient is a kind of friction, something unpleasant that people wish to avoid. I guess you have to have a reason for leaving the Asylum, though some people, like ravers and the old Mardi Gras celebrants, create autonomous zones just so they can party. Many people, however, create a TAZ or SPAZ because there's something they want to evade: going without meat, alcohol, and general merriment during Lent; being shamed by heterosexuals and their culture wherever you go;living as a lower-class person under a pretty intolerable aristocracy in medieval France; seeing the government collaborate with people who just stole your house; getting bullied by roving gangs of trolls every time you deviate from the party line.

I don't meant to say that all these sources of friction are equivalent; obviously, they aren't. But humans seem to create autonomous zones, some of the time, like oysters create pearls. It starts with discomfort. It starts with friction.

The second and third ingredients I can identify are space and time, and the fourth, a group of people willing to show up. Friction, time, space and people.

Can anybody think of any more ingredients for a TAZ?

The second and third ingredients are where dissidents like us have the most trouble, in my view. Saying that a phenomenon occupies space and time may seem less than noteworthy, but we should not take this for granted. Americans, in particular, often assume that space and time are ours for the having, and that our problem lies merely in not being able to persuade, educate, or otherwise muster enough people. This assumption limits American political thinking severely, because in fact, we are terribly deprived of space and time.

I've written elsewhere about the assault on time, how driving people's wages down forces them to work longer and longer hours, spend more and more energy earning wages, until, of necessity, people have little time and less energy for everything from their next-door-neighbor to their Elks Club or sewing circle to their nation and their world. Even the nuclear-family-related-by-blood, the one set of relationships this culture holds as sacrosanct, generally starves for want of the time which is constantly poured into the maw of capital. We tend to talk about that phenomenon, rather ineptly, as "work/life balance," as if our lives were a circus tightrope act, with our talent alone determining whether we stay aloft or fall. It's a neat trick of American culture: injuries suffered magically become bad grades.

We do even worse when talking about space, which we only discuss indirectly. We talk about the lack of homeownership or the dreadful time small businesses have been having for the last thirty years; occasionally we talk about the homeless being moved from parks or about protesters herded into free speech zones. What unites these issues, and many others, is the shrinking of the space ordinary people have for creating, acting, speaking out: spaces where ordinary people have power, where ordinary people matter. Free speech zones are an early and obvious version of this insidious, quiet theft that goes on all around us. That's why Occupy's primary gesture was to inhabit public land, insistently.

I'll give you an example of the kind of access to space and use of space that I'm talking about. It's not just a question of hippie communes or socialist kibbutzes. There used to be a music club in New York--not even a very good venue, riddled with roaches and possessing legendarily filthy restrooms. This club launched the Ramones, the Smiths, the Talking Heads, Blondie, and many, many other bands. What caused this explosion of creativity? A man decided to start a club and feature original music from new artists, and he gave people a chance to play. That's all it took. Space, the final frontier. I could tell many similar stories, of restaurants and record labels, gaming companies, grocery stores. Ordinary people had access to physical space, and occasionally, amazing things happened.

What's remarkable about this is how capitalistic it is. Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying we should keep capitalism around, because it was so great in the good old days. What I am saying is that, even under capitalism, we used to have a lot more access to space than we do now: space to start businesses, make art, live.

Space. We have so little of it. We've almost forgotten what it was like to have more. We've gotten used to being shrunk down.

The Internet is one of the few spaces we have left, and there is something to be said for Hakim Bey's assertion that the "space" of the internet, like its communities, does not adequately replace physical space and the enfleshed communities found there. In any case, we are harried even in the digital world, as our unpleasant history with Markos Moulitsas clearly shows. In retrospect, it felt like we left-wingers had been drawn to one place by the pretext of support simply so that we could be more easily bullied.

We are now approaching the place where the rubber hits the road--or doesn't. If we are to create a TAZ or SPAZ, we must have the time and energy to put into creating it. We must also claim space, if only temporarily.

Americans generally hate talking about the lack of time, space and resources. We love to talk about the choices people make and how those choices reveal moral character. We like to talk about bad education, willful ignorance, materialism, selfish indifference, bigotry. All these do exist and have a deleterious effect on our politics and lives. But the lack of time, space, and resources habitually cripples us. The challenge here is to find a way to regain time and reclaim space. I doubt one can create a TAZ without providing the time or space for its inception.

I meant to write about Gondolin and other intentional communities today, but as always, there's too much to talk about! I'm seriously considering taking this series out of my open thread and doing at least a few a week, because I feel I'm advancing maddeningly slowly through what I have to say.

How are you all this morning?
I can't really wish you all a happy 4th of July at this point, but I do wish you a happy morning. Smile

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Lookout's picture

Interesting thread CStMS. Another half inch of rain last night. You can watch the grass grow this summer...so I sometimes wish for less space! As to time, I've got a couple more decades (I hope).

Choice has to play a role...what do you do with your time in your space..that seems to define our personal path. There is also the balance between self and community (others)....and self and nature.

Well I wish you all peace and contentment this 4th of July. I hope you have found the happiness you've pursued...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men (edit to add - people) are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men (people again), deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout Good quotation, Lookout. It is, indeed, our right to alter or abolish it. And you've given me a way to celebrate the 4th as something other than a wake, so thank you for that as well.

The Founders, despite being racist colonialist assholes, did actually have some good ideas, and that was one of them. Despite everything, I would have been on their side against the British Empire. You may have noticed lately that the British Empire has been given a reputation makeover, mainly through analysis of Francis Scott Key's lesser-known stanzas. Apparently back during the Revolutionary War, the Brits freed some slaves, or at least offered them their freedom, if they would fight on the British side against the revolutionaries, and the revolutionaries, many of them racist as hell, objected to that. Somehow these historical facts add up to "the British Empire was a friend to Black people and a good guy on that account, while the American revolutionaries were racist shits." An obvious military tactic to destabilize the enemy gets transformed into an anti-slavery ethos and a concern for the rights of Black people, even though the Brits were still making bank out of the slave trade at the time that they freed those slaves, and slavery was still legal throughout the British Empire.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

The concepts you raise in this essay / thread encourage making a negativity - free zone, if only for our collective mental health. Deprive the bummers a place to grow, ya know.

Thanks cstms!

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@QMS Good morning, QMS!

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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I woke up feeling like hell this morning, with a really thick head. No reason for it I can discern, unless I'm having an allergic reaction to the molds and mildews that all this rain inspires.

How are y'all doing today?

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal recently had pneumonia, but recovered and well now. It feels so good to have energy again and the weather is gorgeous. I hope you'll feel better soon.

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@Granma Thank God you're recovered. I had pneumonia earlier this year (Jan 27-mid-March) and it's a bruiser. A bit scary, actually. Glad you're feeling better!

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Tuesday night is one of my Judo nights, so I tend to sleep in till the ungodly hour of 7:00 on Wednesday. Smile

So, I apologize if my calling the meetup in Portland a "Tiny TAZ" is a violation of the spirit of the term. I just figured that physically meeting and having the mindset would possibly be the start of something, and possibly not. I'm not particularly worried about the end result, just the process that builds it.

As far as what I'm doing, I'm still writing my CNU series as a mental exploration of what my "Cascadia" looks like. I finally got around to reading "Ectopia" and while I don't agree with all of that version's future, it's one I could live in. I admit, I have my love for some of the benefits of industrial society, and I'd love to keep the knowledge and toys, if not the greed, wealth, and pollution that goes along with them.

So, little steps in the right direction. Upped my workouts to 3 times a week. Hit muscle failure HARD last night, but kept going. I will say though, I NEED the 3rd day off after two days of hard workouts. The work day should be tailored to the weakest and oldest of the workers, not the youngest and fittest. If somebody can do better, great, but don't make the rest of us live up to Arnold the Barbarian's living standards.

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@detroitmechworks No, calling the Portland meetup a "tiny TAZ" is not a violation of the term as I understand it. It's the purely digital interactions, like those we have here, that Hakim Bey (not me) objects to.

Congrats on your workouts. I usually do one day on, one off, when I'm working out at all (which I'm still not, yet; I'm doing a few laps in the pool on a regular basis, but no aerobics machines or lifting. I've been trying to get started on that for the past two weeks.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@detroitmechworks I like Ecotopia too.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@detroitmechworks is still on, then. My schedule took a hit, but I'm out of here tomorrow rolling up the coast road for a few days of tenting with Dog.
To the topic; I have issues with 'safe spaces' as opposed to Taz, there are No safe spaces in this life.
Thanks for explaining taz/spaz for me anyway, I get lost with all the acronyms.
I like the thought process that goes into this thread, though.

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

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Now you know. . .
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@Tall Bald and Ugly Even if nobody else shows. It's my favorite Food Cart pod, so might as well enjoy the day. Smile

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@detroitmechworks
Look forward to it.
Also, won't show up late again. Will get there early and have a pitcher waiting.
If anyone from this side of the river ( The Couve ) needs a ride, let me know by PM.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@earthling1 I look forward to seeing you again!

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@Tall Bald and Ugly The notion of safe space is another colonized idea. It is so corrupted at this point that it's barely possible to talk about what it used to mean.

Here's another way of talking about space:

Currently, our enemies occupy almost all territory. They are now trying to colonize the human mind and corral dissent on the Internet, because that's almost all the space we have left.

It's all very well to say "there are no safe spaces in this world," and I know who and what you're responding to when you say that. SJWs demand that people shut up or conform to their views. But that is not the phenomenon I'm talking about, or perhaps a better way of putting it is that I see those SJWs differently than you do. SJWs, in my estimation, are about 65% paid agents of corporations or the government (including a heaping helping of sockpuppets) about 15% a bunch of self-important trolls, and about 20% a bunch of well-meaning idiots who think they're fighting the good fight.

I was an idiot like that once, and made the same mistake they're making: I thought I was fighting the good fight and I was actually just serving the powerful. So I don't hate or despise the sincere idiots in the SJW ranks, though they sometimes grieve and horrify me, especially when I see my allies, friends, and even family falling in line.

Mostly SJWs are just one more way the empire, or the oligarchy, or whatever you want to call the people who run this shitshow, control space. Their corruption of the term "safe space," like the popularization of the idea of an "echo chamber," is intentional, and leads intelligent people to question an idea that would have been self-evident fifteen years ago: if you want political change, you must have territory. You must have places where people with your views congregate. This territory need not be, strictly speaking, under your control or ownership, but you must have assured access to it. That's why Occupy encampments were so important: there was a space where people from all over could come to have conversations they could have pretty much nowhere else. That's why they had to be taken down--well, apart from giving the military a chance to practice pacification of multiple American cities at once.

The idea that spaces where a lot of people agree with each other are bad is a remarkable weapon for the powerful. If you don't gather people who agree with each other, you will accomplish nothing beyond debate, ever.

The Black churches where the Civil Rights movement was organized back in the 50s and 60s could be called a "safe space" or an echo chamber, because people there all agreed on basic principles. They agreed on what their problem was, and on where they wanted to go. So could the migrant worker camps where the boycott of United Fruit began. These would be "safe spaces" according to the lingo of the current SJW tribe, even though they were obviously not safe at all, being vulnerable to dangers the like of which the current SJW tribe has little or no idea (the very fact that they call themselves "warriors," is, for the most part, ridiculous; most of them would shrivel if they faced the dangers encountered by the Civil Rights movement, Black nationalism, the labor struggle, or even Act Up).

I guess what I'm saying is that it's not good to have no territory, and agreement is not always bad. Nobody wants to protect dissent and disagreement more than me, but that doesn't extend to saying that people who agree should not have spaces where they can talk, organize, work, and party without being constantly subject to the blitzkrieg of propaganda that's raining down everywhere.

You'll notice there are no such SJWs here. If they came here, they probably wouldn't last. That's because this is our space, run according to our values, not theirs. I'm not saying they would be prevented from talking, but they would make no headway, and the minute they started character attacks, they'd be out of here. That's because this is our space. In my opinion, we need more such.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal has an identical meaning to that of "Free Speech Area".

You may make your trouble on ONE issue in this little area. Step out of line in that area, and you will suffer all the social retribution we can muster.

The policing of THOUGHT is the most frightening part, I find. There are times when I fall back onto the Clinton Strategy when dealing with certain folks. Say nothing, smile, look pretty, and pray they don't notice that I haven't actually said shit.

Or I'm snarky, which often flies over the heads of the deliberately obtuse.

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@Tall Bald and Ugly

I have issues with 'safe spaces' as opposed to Taz, there are No safe spaces in this life.

Any time someone says "safe space", what (s)he means is: "Agree with me or else!" Every time I've ever seen "safe space" invoked, all discussion completely halts.

Which is what the "safe spacers" really want.

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@thanatokephaloides pretty much my point with that comment. In @Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal reply I twigged to the 'Our space' and completely agree- we need an 'our space' where dissent and debate can happen to arrive at consensus without trolls wrecking the joint.

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
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@lotlizard
1957, I had two chemistry sets from Chemcraft, and neither one had that ore. Didn't last long.
P.S. I didn't become a chemist.
Thanks for the links.

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Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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Can anybody think of any more ingredients for a TAZ?

Devil and Devilish. Wink

[video:https://youtu.be/qdDXZjQu0FQ]

Mix 'em together, and you get Baby TAZ:

[video:https://youtu.be/Q6TEO1nySH8]

But seriously: lots of good stuff about the Autonomous Zones. And the ever-increasing complaint of most working-class Americans about no access to space or time, which I've been preaching for decades!

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides