@Citizen Of Earth

Yes separating children from their parents is horrible, but so is killing whole families as well as all the other things you mentioned. This selective outrage over which action is the one that brings people into the streets almost makes people hypocrites, IMO. The reason people are immigrating here is because we've destroyed their countries. Why don't people see this? I'm seeing people saying that immigrants are fleeing from crime or drug cartels with no mention of who is supporting it.

Rant away! Nicely done.

Man I haven't seen them this active since -- well never.
And yes, Trump separating families is immoral and should be called out and stopped.

But gee, wouldn't it be nice to see these DemHoles ALSO get excited about: Medicare for All; or Reversing the Tax Giveaway to the Rich; or Stopping Price Gouging On Drugs -- you know, some big issue that is fucking over us american citizens.

PS. Just ranting. I know the Corporate Whore Dems are incapable.

apply it to any funding shortfalls.

Next question."
@snoopydawg

Ocasio-Cortez calls for single-payer healthcare, abolition of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, and free college for all. Forget about the underlying arithmetic and how to pay for all of it, which either requires sky-high taxation or flat-out sorcery. Rather, this is a cultural manifesto, a cry for open borders, and a demand for one ginormous nausea-inducing free lunch. Against this backdrop, does anyone think Michael Bloomberg has a realistic shot at winning the Democratic nomination two years from now? There is nothing like an aging financialist to get people really excited and trudging out in the dead of winter to hang out for two hours at the Iowa caucuses.

This sounds like the same hit job that people made against Bernie. "How can we possibly pay for all that free stuff?" Gee I don't know. Maybe by rescinding the last tax cut, military budget increase, that $10 million a day that Israel gets and by raising taxes on rich and the country back to where they actually have to pay some.

Speaking of free lunch, why don't people have a problem with the free lunch that the subsidies pay for? Why in hell do profitable companies still need to get them? On top of all the tax breaks they get to take advantage of.

I doubt anyone wants open borders, but I know plenty of people who want the bombings of foreign people's countries to stop which would decrease the number of people who have flee if they want to stay alive. Why is that such a hard concept for the anti immigration people to understand?

Boy one progressive minority woman wins a primary and the country goes nuts! Sheesh.

@snoopydawg people do have a problem with socialized support of the banks, MIC, big AG, PHARM and oil. Tiny problem, people that have problems with the structure of capitalized socialism get jailed, not listened to.

Ocasio-Cortez calls for single-payer healthcare, abolition of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, and free college for all. Forget about the underlying arithmetic and how to pay for all of it, which either requires sky-high taxation or flat-out sorcery. Rather, this is a cultural manifesto, a cry for open borders, and a demand for one ginormous nausea-inducing free lunch. Against this backdrop, does anyone think Michael Bloomberg has a realistic shot at winning the Democratic nomination two years from now? There is nothing like an aging financialist to get people really excited and trudging out in the dead of winter to hang out for two hours at the Iowa caucuses.

This sounds like the same hit job that people made against Bernie. "How can we possibly pay for all that free stuff?" Gee I don't know. Maybe by rescinding the last tax cut, military budget increase, that $10 million a day that Israel gets and by raising taxes on rich and the country back to where they actually have to pay some.

Speaking of free lunch, why don't people have a problem with the free lunch that the subsidies pay for? Why in hell do profitable companies still need to get them? On top of all the tax breaks they get to take advantage of.

I doubt anyone wants open borders, but I know plenty of people who want the bombings of foreign people's countries to stop which would decrease the number of people who have flee if they want to stay alive. Why is that such a hard concept for the anti immigration people to understand?

Boy one progressive minority woman wins a primary and the country goes nuts! Sheesh.

@snoopydawg  
I bet they’re going nuts partly because someone who is not a total cheerleader for Israel managed to win in New York, a state with an extremely strong Israel-affine Dem party machine.

Ocasio-Cortez calls for single-payer healthcare, abolition of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, and free college for all. Forget about the underlying arithmetic and how to pay for all of it, which either requires sky-high taxation or flat-out sorcery. Rather, this is a cultural manifesto, a cry for open borders, and a demand for one ginormous nausea-inducing free lunch. Against this backdrop, does anyone think Michael Bloomberg has a realistic shot at winning the Democratic nomination two years from now? There is nothing like an aging financialist to get people really excited and trudging out in the dead of winter to hang out for two hours at the Iowa caucuses.

This sounds like the same hit job that people made against Bernie. "How can we possibly pay for all that free stuff?" Gee I don't know. Maybe by rescinding the last tax cut, military budget increase, that $10 million a day that Israel gets and by raising taxes on rich and the country back to where they actually have to pay some.

Speaking of free lunch, why don't people have a problem with the free lunch that the subsidies pay for? Why in hell do profitable companies still need to get them? On top of all the tax breaks they get to take advantage of.

I doubt anyone wants open borders, but I know plenty of people who want the bombings of foreign people's countries to stop which would decrease the number of people who have flee if they want to stay alive. Why is that such a hard concept for the anti immigration people to understand?

Boy one progressive minority woman wins a primary and the country goes nuts! Sheesh.

@Daenerys

Yeah, well...

Fuck 'em.

I wouldn't. Not with my parts, anyway!

They may not be the greatest genitalia in history, but my sexy parts deserve more respect than that!

Fuck 'em.

@doh1304

for the democrats and say that they need to make sure that they come out to vote during the next midterms because there is too much at stake not to.

Democratic Party was losing about 1 million votes a year, and had since Obama's betrayal in 2009. I also saw a similar loss - in the 1990s, following Bill Clinton's betrayal (NAFTA and "Hillarycare"

Why should I vote for a party that is supposedly in opposition to the things that Trump and the republicans are doing when people in this party make sure that there are enough of them to vote with them to get their legislation passed?

This opposition party has voted to give Trump more power to spy on us and to further deregulate the big banks? Many members of the opposition party voted for Trump's heinous cabinet picks? Warren said that she voted for Carson because she was afraid that Trump would have nominated someone worse. Seriously? She couldn't have continued not voting for his picks until he nominated someone who was qualified? Then there's Schumer who also voted for many of his picks knowing full well that they had a history of attacking the regulations that they would then be overseeing.

Finally why should I vote for a party that the majority voted to give Trump more money for the military budget then he asked for knowing damn well that with the deficit going up would trigger the republicans to gut the social safety net? The Resistance needs to be renamed the Assistant.

One person said that if I didn't vote in the midterms then I should slit my wrists! And yes even with that in the diary it made the wreck list.

One wrecked list diary asked people to come up with a message that the democrats should use to get people to vote for them. An effing message not what policies do they think the democrats should be running on. Even if they were lying when they said it people need a reason to vote for a party besides saying that they are not the republicans or Putin's puppets and committing treason like they are. Yep. Many people believe that. And that Trump only wants to pull the troops out of Germany because Vlad told him to.

and found that the Democratic Party was losing about 1 million votes a year, and had since Obama's betrayal in 2009. I also saw a similar loss - in the 1990s, following Bill Clinton's betrayal (NAFTA and "Hillarycare")
I also saw that those voters were not switching to the Republicans, they were simply staying home. (the 1996 Gingrich revolution was sort of different, as the religious right brought out a large number of first time voters - but not D>R voters)

Interesting thoughts: The Republican vote totals had not changed throughout the Obama adminisstration, though population increases should have caused them to rise. In other words, young (millenial) conservatives are replacing dying conservative seniors, but not in numbers proportionate to their total population.
Trump got essentially the same number of votes as McCain and Romney. There was also an analysis (not mine) that showed that his base of support was actually middle aged professional class upper income whites, not racists and not poor whites, who according to the analysis, voted for Hillary (though perhaps not in the numbers expected, a situation that also applied to blacks and hispanics, all of whom voted Democratic, but not in the expected numbers)
Hillary's "magic mexicans" were a myth. The Hispanic vote not only did not manifest itself, Hillary actually lost percentage points to Trump.(so remarkable that I doubt the analysis' facts, though I suppose it's possible that calling yourself an "abuela" while supporting Hunduran death squads might be more damaging than calling people rapists - I used to know a black minister who voted for George Wallace because "at least he admitted he was a racist")

@doh1304

There was also an analysis (not mine) that showed that his base of support was actually middle aged professional class upper income whites, not racists and not poor whites, who according to the analysis, voted for Hillary.

Yes I know that they only voted for him because their husbands told them to and because they were misogynistic and sexist. /s

Funny how the people who say that sexism and misogyny kept Her from becoming president when many of them voted for Jill Stein, another woman who ran against her.

and found that the Democratic Party was losing about 1 million votes a year, and had since Obama's betrayal in 2009. I also saw a similar loss - in the 1990s, following Bill Clinton's betrayal (NAFTA and "Hillarycare")
I also saw that those voters were not switching to the Republicans, they were simply staying home. (the 1996 Gingrich revolution was sort of different, as the religious right brought out a large number of first time voters - but not D>R voters)

Interesting thoughts: The Republican vote totals had not changed throughout the Obama adminisstration, though population increases should have caused them to rise. In other words, young (millenial) conservatives are replacing dying conservative seniors, but not in numbers proportionate to their total population.
Trump got essentially the same number of votes as McCain and Romney. There was also an analysis (not mine) that showed that his base of support was actually middle aged professional class upper income whites, not racists and not poor whites, who according to the analysis, voted for Hillary (though perhaps not in the numbers expected, a situation that also applied to blacks and hispanics, all of whom voted Democratic, but not in the expected numbers)
Hillary's "magic mexicans" were a myth. The Hispanic vote not only did not manifest itself, Hillary actually lost percentage points to Trump.(so remarkable that I doubt the analysis' facts, though I suppose it's possible that calling yourself an "abuela" while supporting Hunduran death squads might be more damaging than calling people rapists - I used to know a black minister who voted for George Wallace because "at least he admitted he was a racist")

@The Aspie Corner

I'd love to put these assholes in my shoes for a few years. They'd commit suicide just from the boredom and near isolation alone.

@WoodsDweller Cain't fight something without an inborn split to begin with. You make sense, they only want to stir up trouble. Cain't win that one either. Going to eat each other's brains anyway. Doesn't improve intelligence. Maybe we're safe, for now?

as "left populism" vs. "right populism". Why are they having guests on Fox saying how awful democratic socialism is? Are they really worried that Republicans will start voting for them?
Yes.
What they really really don't want is "working class populism". Because they've got nothing to use against it. So they want to split those voters in half and set them at each others' throats.

@edg Corpo-Dems are just as against anything remotely Left as Repugs are. And I agree with what Woods Dweller said above, our owners are definitely afraid some of those Repugs might just start voting actual socialist as some are indeed figuring out just how they've been screwed as well. But never fear, Faux will corral them back into the herd and most likely Trump will win a second term.

by the level of their vitriol. They're scared that progressives are gaining ground and will beat Repugs. Thus, theybring out the big guns to scare Corpo-Dems into crushing progressives for the good of god, mom and country.