2 breaking headlines: an open thread…while we wait
Submitted by wendy davis on Wed, 04/11/2018 - 8:18am
‘Trump: Get ready Russia, missiles will be coming at Syria, nice and new and ‘smart’!’ via RT, 11 Apr, 2018 11:06
‘Moscow to Trump: Are ‘smart’ missiles an attempt to destroy alleged chem attack evidence in Syria?’, also via RT, 11 Apr, 2018
(cross-posted from Café Babylon)
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fwiw:
‘Come Out For #SpringAgainstWar, April 14-15, Everywhere’, worldbeyondwar.org
also: ‘Two weeks since WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange silenced by Ecuador, Niles Niemuth’, wsws.org, 11 April 2018
“In days leading up to his silencing, Assange released statements questioning the official narrative spun by the UK government around the alleged poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal by Russia. He had also tweeted links to the WSWS series exposing the unprecedented number of former CIA agents running as Democrats in the US midterm elections.
It is no coincidence that Assange has been shut off from any form of communication with the outside world as the US and its allies prepare for an escalation of the war in Syria and for direct confrontations with nuclear-armed Russia. The censorship of oppositional voices that are critical of the official narrative is seen as necessary to selling new wars to the public.”
#HandsOffSyria
#NoWarOnRussia
F'ing Morons are going to kill us all including themselves.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
total command and control
western hegemonic insanity. cain't have no multi-polar world, now can we?
Speaking of breaking news:
PAUL RYAN WILL NOT SEEK RE-ELECTION.
https://www.bloomberg.com/
I'm going to get drunk now!
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
I think we all need a stiff drink
Cheers
Beware the bullshit factories.
He's not seeking coronation
with Hillary in the next selection?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ellen, first I have a headache today!
Second, I am not sure what his reasons really were but I think indications in this state are that people are really pissed off by the Corporate tax giveaway and specifically in this state the FoxxCON tax giveaway. I read somewhere (no source today folks I sickened myself) that @ironstache has raised 4.5 million for the race (although he declines to debate the real progressive Cathy Myers), so the belief there is momentum for that "bluewave" (gak) in WI. Also, why be a politician when you can earn big $$$$$ as a lobbyist. Don't have to put up with any of that constituent crap. He's taking the easy way out to easy street.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
You’re forgetting his book, speaking,
and lobbying income.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
remember her heinous lost to this pos
First
Then this
maybe we should all just go to disneyland
Why is it amerika's the only country in the world who
has a military that's based on a profit motive.
a café commenter just me this WTF?, too:
he really is a total nutbar as well as a sociopath, and w/ a new hairdo, to boot. (in the first RT link)
Can't argue w/you on any point
A group of lawmakers will introduce legislation to protect the office of the special counsel in the event that Trump attempts to fire Robert Mueller. Four bipartisan senators plan to merge two proposals that would protect the special counsel and only allow him to be fired "for good cause" by a senior official in the Justice Department. (Reuters)
https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/
but I always have in the back of my mind how bipartisanship is
a big FU to the people and next in line is Pence, oy vey.
iow's we're fucked
Why is it amerika's the only country in the world who
has a military that's based on a profit motive.
I'm sure Pence would be completely unbiased
In his preparation for the second coming.
Beware the bullshit factories.
wd, this tweet by the Orangutan suggests realism
Drumpf often says contradictory messages even one following immediately upon another. It is difficult to know, or actually like Schrödinger's cat, impossible to know WTF he thinks. If he turns the fleet around, we have escaped certain doom. Russia has better anti-missile missiles than we do with S400 and newer versions. I am fairly confident that Russian subs are in the Mediterranean also. Aircraft carriers are mighty fine targets for Rooskie hypersonic torpedoes.
yeah, as i said either here or over yonder:
someone should take the twit's tweeter away from him. 'i love 2 B erratic: it's MAGA!
as far as miz niki whose tweets are mainly selfies, j in oly said over yonder: 'every time she opens her mouth it's a war crime'.
well shiver me timbers: there's fooking kenneth ross at the top: "World Health Organization estimates 500 Syrians were affected by the chemical weapon attack in Douma. http://bit.ly/2EE7ktk"
but down thread, oy, is she one proudly shallow imbecile. "my new gurlfriends on the committee!" (giggle, giggle) but then susan rice wasn't all that smart, was she?
I think now cornered and rattled, as they planned
in this tweet he’s finally seeing and admitting to it for what it truly is.
He’s been played to get into war by the levelers of power.
Probably after all the ranting and threatening, it’s the most honest tweet he’d made of all.
Maybe either he's possessed by multiple demons
or he's showing both his 'public' and 'private' faces in succession in the hope that they'll only be viewed by the appropriate target audiences?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
UN Security Council Votes Down Action on Syria
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeJl6r797qA]
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Ys, Haley, the world will remember this moment
if there are human beings left next week to take note of this. U.S. votes in Security Council not to allow chemical weapon inspectors to go to Syria. Don't bother me with the facts, I have my own opinion.
Now Nikki's gonna bomb the UN offices for
NOT DOING WHAT THEY WERE TOLD!!!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
"Wrong Answer." *mic drop*
Kamala Harris refuses to stop taking corporate money.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YI1Hw6LbWI]
Yet another Democrat doing typical 3rd Way pig work.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Tucker freakin Carlson
When Tucker Carlson is one of few that presents a sensible, level-headed view of a critically important topic, the world has been turned upside down and inside out.
[video:https://youtu.be/y5bv7vEmK6E]
wikileaks had tweeted it, too; thanks.
'fight them here, don't fight them there' is turning this old saw on its head, eh? "fight them over there...so we won't have to fight them here".
and it's like seeing the freight train coming...and we're powerless to stop it. i'm not even sure that any bombing will be only in syria, there are so many 'russian' proxy wars available, say...in crimea? if israel 'secretly' strikes again, why not iran? howard dean, the peace candidate. former D canddate gen. wesley clark said the same shit, different day on CNN.
Level headed compared to the rest of the corporate media
maybe but his insistence that this a civil war is a false narrative, his assertion that Assad "is fully capable of gassing innocent children" is also a false narrative and "Both sides in the Syrian civil war have chemical weapons", actually isn't true because Syria got rid of there's under U.N. supervision, and there are not TWO sides (i.e., "both"). I'm not sure sprinkling some truth in with the lies and false narratives is all that helpful.
"The Saudi's are causing the genocide in Yemen."
point taken;
when i'd reposted it from wikileaks i'd mentioned that the chemical weapons had been hauled off earlier. but i hadn't even noted 'civil war', like ken burns' Viet Nam'. pfffft.
Civil war has been the manufactured false narrative since
the Arab Spring when the U.S. and friends started this war on Syria. It was repeated day after day, in article after article, show after show for years and still is. I know it's been used here regularly by some writers. It's been a pet peeve of mine but like with the SOHR, still being used, it has amazing resiliency. It obviously give the uninformed a warped perspective on what kind of war it is.
agreed.
soros-otpor color revolutions spring to mind... but at least carlson got a lot of it right, so...there's that. kinda like dylan ratigan's anti-wall street rant long ago, but iirc, he got fired. i do wonder if there'd been some sort of comments forum in which folks might have corrected some of carlson's mis-apprehensions.
As is
so often the case, you are righter than right.
My understanding
is that the latest gassing is supposed to be with chlorine, which is easy to make and could easily have been manufactured after the previous removal of chemical weapons. On the other hand, it could also have been made by the rebels AND I haven't seen any strong evidence that a gassing actually occurred. Various rebel groups have certainly faked lots of stuff before. They are acutely aware of the power of viral videos. Beyond all my long-windedness, I take your point that there is no real evidence that Assad would use poison gas. I am sure Carlson thought he had to say something negative about Assad as a counterpoint to the relative sanity of his commentary.
Right! Assad is not a silly ass
President Trump: ...out of Syria ("Like, really soon")
President Assad: "No! Please stay and bomb us!"
Perhaps Netanyahu reminded the American President that he "has pictures" in that phone call after Trump started "coloring outside the lines" on Syria:
Netanyahu/Trump -- tense call
great link, and thank you.
but syria THE proxy war on the western Imperium's list (well, not North korea, but the biggies to israel as well): my stars.
The Times of Israel is as much bullshit as WaPo
Power vacuum--bullshit. Syria, if left along (with Russia's help of course) will readily refill the so-called Power Vacuum.
Ahhhh. . .
and There's the rub, ain't it? Can't have Syria fill a power vacuum in SYRIA, now can we?
Fuckwads, Dickheads, and BrainDeads(sorry Thanat). Hope we're still chatting next week!
Stop These Fucking Wars
peace(for real)
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
Sign at protest march
Thanks for the link!
only the assumptions that TPTB own everything everywhere are so utterly bizarre...
The Pentagon, the State Department and CIA have no jurisdiction in other people's countries, particularly when they have not been invited in and are trying to take over the place.
Gee, Russia and Syria can probably handle the terrorist situation just fine, if the US and others would only stop funding/arming/training terrorists and getting them to attack civilians, while the terrorist-rescuing White Helmets promote propaganda that Assad did whatever the terrorists they work with did, so that the US can fire off missiles at the Syrians who have enough US-supported terrorists to deal with without US terrorists organizing their own further attacks on them.
And now, while the slavering, dishonored were-dogs of gang war-crimes are attacking Syria, the CIA are probably sneaking more terrorists into the country from the rear...
Edit: lol, ninja'd again! Should have known that my favorite 'Gater had already got his teeth into that, and spat out the perfect response to cover it!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Lol, what happened was that
the Syrians found the terrorist's chemical workshop while taking back from them, and going though, a portion of Eastern Ghouta, spoiling the planned chemical provocation of which Intelligence had warned.
The White Helmet rescuers of terrorists and producers of top-quality terrorist propaganda claimed that it had happened anyway, blaming Assad.
Meanwhile, doctors in the area have seen no signs or victims of any gas attacks; the army had seen so signs of one having happened there - they having forestalled it in time by capturing the area.
The US PTB know damn well that they arranged a False Flag as an excuse to attack - and even if it has been discovered and prevented, they figure they're damn well going to hit Syria, Iran, and Russia all at once, so that they can start on China, and from there, finish taking over the world.
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201803121062431574-syrian-army-chemic...
I do not see the US being upset over this - because their pet terrorists did it:
https://www.fort-russ.com/2018/04/video-syrians-chant-curse-ghouta-after...
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44045-pentagon-plans-for-three-front-...
Busy choking on outrage and grief, so I won't comment further on this.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Lol, apparently
Assad was a London Ophthalmologist when he was suddenly obliged to fill his deceased brother's position as head of Syria.
Seems kinda silly of TPTB to try to present him as some grunting savage with no regard for human life and a penchant for gassing children... and I'll bet he can see far more clearly than they.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I mean really, you could just as well say that Barack Obama,
Donald Trump, George Bush, etc., are fully capable of pulling false flag attacks that kill thousands of innocent people, start illegal wars that kill millions, and Amerika is a land of bloodthirsty, greedy bastards who will kill any in their way.
I watched Carlson for a couple years in the early part of the century but stopped as with all corporate media about ten years ago. Those thinking all that about what he said need to examine it more closely imo. It might sound good on the surface, but beneath it the continuation of the false narratives does more harm than good.
Well, it ain't America or Americans that's the problem
it's the psychopaths who were allowed to gain great wealth and power by sheer ruthlessness in order to run the place. Get the psychos out of positions where they can harm others, and the imposed societal pathology can be cleaned out by the vast number of Americans who were not, despite all propaganda efforts, pathologized and are capable of thinking for themselves and like civilized human being.
Lol, if the people here on this site were running government, there'd be immediate improvements - and while you guys might be cream of the cream, there are more out there.
Edit: got side-tracked and hadn't specifically added that I agree completely. And you nailed it precisely about having to remember to point to the wrong/disinformation mixed with fact so that it doesn't get incorporated and repeated in our thinking and commentary. There's such a lot of that about! (Speaking as one who has a bad memory, of course, lol.)
Re -edit: wish we could see what we were replying to more easily; by the time I get back from being hauled off by the dog, run to the bathroom and make a cup of tea, I seem to wind up not remembering/not answering quite what I actually was replaying to when I got nose-poked. That bad memory thing, lol. But, yeah, I do agree with what you actually said.
I really should be in bed with a book, not trying to comment and not listening for any large explosions, lol... at least not tonight. And hopefully we won't lose internet or have any WW3 breaking out - ever.
*hugs*
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Well put Ellen.
Ya, actually the amazing thing is Americans are people from all over the world. We're just like humans throughout history, same stuff happens over and over. Of course now, it's amazing with the population, technology, everything seems ready to burst.
I just started watching a movie, Snowpiercer (multi-tasking) about a revolution on a train after a climate change post apocalypse, and he says, paraphrased, "the mistake we made in the last revolutions was we didn't take out the engine. This time we take out the engine".
That's what I'm talking about right there, we need to take out the engine.
That's the discussion everyone who is at all interested in justice, equality, and peace should be having now.
@Big Al
Metaphorical or mechanical engine?
Too tired to see straight, and had probably better not assume anything, lol. Probably had better crawl into bed while I can make it that far, lol.
Edit for letter-typo, crawling off, yawning.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
It's a new system
Good cop/ bad cop
Then flip
Bad cop/ good cop
Rinse- repeat
There, that should keep the plebes confused.
After six years, still getting robo-calls from Marriot Hotels.
They're like herpes.
Yep! I’ve been posting Pat Buchanan’s
column here lately because HE’S been on the side of sanity in regard to the bellicose bullshit from our hickey-on-a-hemorrhoid prez’ and his threats to attack Syria.
It’s pretty disturbing and disorienting that some of the conservative jerks that I spent most of my life hating are the only ‘smart’ guys in the room right now.
EDIT: fixed one typo and some bad grammar
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
I hear you.
I caught Mark Steyn on the radio the other day and he sounded like a normal person. It was very disorienting. But the next day, he was an asshat again. So, I assume this is a temporary effect, perhaps caused by quantum hypocrisy.
____________________
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
This is sooo much like the lead in to the invasion of Iraq
A complete abandonment of any requirement for evidence, NPR and corporate media all on board, Democrats and Republicans almost all on board, consequences be damned, so few asking the obvious questions and the sanctimony, always the sanctimony. I feel as though I am drowning in a sea of ignorant self-righteousness.
From The Saker - picture worth a thousand words
yes, that.
thank you, CB.
may i please add this?
i was pinging this when i'd grabbed the following tweet, so i went and etched it: tom hall at wsws.org had penned: 'The pseudo-left’s silent complicity in the drive to war against Syria and Russia’
“Four of the most prominent pseudo-left websites—Jacobin magazine, which is closely connected to the Democratic Socialists of America; Socialist Worker, the online newspaper of the International Socialist Organization; the website of Socialist Alternative; and International Viewpoint, the magazine of the Pabloite, ex-Trotskyist United Secretariat, have written next to nothing about the growing danger of a major world war. What little they have written only underscores their support for American and world imperialism.
Jacobin has written nothing on the Skripal affair—that is, the effort of the UK and US to use unsubstantiated charges that Russia was behind the alleged poisoning of the double agent Sergei Skripal, which has been used to justify war provocations against Russia. As the official narrative of the Skripal poisoning has broken down, the media and imperialist governments have shifted to the CIA-organized provocation over Syria’s alleged use of chemical weapons to demand war.
As of April 9, the words “Skripal,” “Russia,” and “Syria” do not appear on the front page of Jacobin's website. Moreover, a search of Jacobinmag.com for “skripal” returns zero results. That is, for the last month, during which the media in the US and UK engaged in an unrelenting propaganda offensive, Jacobin wrote nothing.”
wait until he gets a load of this ‘un my favorite tankie just retweeted.
One of
the most important revelations in David Talbot's book on Allen Dulles, The Devil's Chessboard, is that Dulles ran leftist organizations in the United States, sometimes in order to destroy them and sometimes in order to control them.
that's right, he did, didn't he?
and i'd add as well that foundations like the rockefellers, ford, soros, gates, etc., fund alleged 'dissidents' to control them and corral them, although i'm more familiar with the gatekeepers for the D team. wrong kind of green does some great exposés on compromised NGOs.
i'd cross-posted a two part thingie on their work. one biggie is avaaz, which organization is heavily invested in this 3-bagger 'war'. sarah sanders was supposed to be doing a presser on what T and his generals decided, but it's not up on c-span yet, nor at the WH briefing room. but why would he/they signal anything in advance?
I bet Bolton is getting really excited
He gets to play war again.
Beware the bullshit factories.
yeah, and he has plenty of neo-con help,
eh? here's Sir Brookings Institution on twitter writing for that Very Fine Rag, the daily beast: