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‘Trump: Get ready Russia, missiles will be coming at Syria, nice and new and ‘smart’!’  via RT, 11 Apr, 2018 11:06

‘Moscow to Trump: Are ‘smart’ missiles an attempt to destroy alleged chem attack evidence in Syria?’, also via RT, 11 Apr, 2018

(cross-posted from Café Babylon)

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wendy davis's picture

@Big Al

"Russian President Vladimir Putin has expressed hope that “common sense” will eventually prevail in the modern world, which is becoming “more chaotic.” The current international situation is very troubling, he added.
“The state of world affairs invokes nothing but concerns, the situation in the world is becoming more chaotic,” Putin said on Wednesday during a ceremony to welcome new ambassadors to Russia.

Nevertheless, we still hope that common sense will eventually prevail and international relations will enter a constructive course, the entire world system will become more stable and predictable.”
Moscow will continue to advocate strengthening “global and regional” security, and will fully adhere to its “international responsibilities and develop cooperation with our partners on a constructive and respectful basis.
“We will pursue a positive, future-oriented agenda for the world; and work to ensure stable development, prosperity and the flourishing of mankind,” Putin said.
Putin’s statements came shortly after a new batch of threats from by his US counterpart.”

while i do understand that russia/putin advertised their more superior weapons, it's also an existential for them, what with nato nations, friends of nato, under nato's umbrella, poland, latvia, more baltic nations, surrounding them, and boatloads of US nukes stationed in the EU, so...i kinda get it, myownself, even if i don't particularly like it.

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that being the intended purpose of nukes. The principle of MAD was, of course, supposed to initiate at least a Mexican Stand-off, so that more-powerful and heavily-militarized countries with psychopaths and greed-heads at the helm couldn't do to countries having nukes what the US PTB were and are doing to any country not having nukes as it systematically 'destabilizes' its way around the globe, via such as pet terrorists, internationally illegal and grossly immoral illegal military attacks, invasions, 'regime changes' to suit TPTB, in the interests of totalitarian global domination.

Unfortunately, psychopathic bullies are stupid and the gang's all in on forcing WW3, in the belief that they can force everyone to crawl under their thumb so as to be squished as painfully as possible.

But Hitler was beaten the last time, when this was also thought impossible - in great part because the Russian people are known for fighting to the last man and have never been subjugated by invaders as a result.

And the 'this can't happen in my democracy' German people were also freed by Hitler's defeat.

Domestically, this is essentially a case of the lawless infiltrating and taking over legislative and judicial branches of government over the years in order to create their own 'law' in order to 'justify' ('optics' for the win!) whatever they do - and using this unconstitutional law against their own law-abiding people. Psychologically, (as well as financially) it seems to be harder for us law-abiding people to stand up en masse to pacifically fight those forcing the imposition of unjust and destructive law than even the militarized police forces who are supposed to be working for the people.

What they've been doing in occupying other people's 'geopolitically important' countries so as to further expand the net of military bases around the globe for the ability to attack anywhere, any time, cannot any longer go unnoticed.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/44045-pentagon-plans-for-three-front-...

Pentagon Plans for Three-Front "Long War" Against China and Russia
Tuesday, April 03, 2018 By Michael T. Klare, TomDispatch | News Analysis

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North

a nuclear flash.

Savage bloodthirsty bastards.

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To make a target of them.
Come on Kiwis, don't let them cowards in.
Ya know when this is over we're gonna come lookin' for em, and it won't be pretty.

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After six years, still getting robo-calls from Marriot Hotels.
They're like herpes.

@earthling1

as an alternative to pitch-forks at home.

Starts making a trial for war-crimes in an independent international court (assuming any are uncorrupted) look better to some, no doubt.

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haven't listened, so i dunno what's in it.

on edit: gadzukes, there was nothing in it! can't find it all, but here's more: ‘Sarah Sanders says no decisions have been made yet on Syria’, cbsnews.com

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In our government piss and moan about chemical weapons is White Phosphorus and Fallujah.

Pentagon Reverses Position and Admits U.S. Troops Used White Phosphorus Against Iraqis in Fallujah
STORY NOVEMBER 17, 2005

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The Pentagon”s admission comes after a week of denials that it used white phosphorus as a weapon in Fallujah. While reporters have noted the use of white phosphorus since the war began, it only became a major story last Tuesday when Italian state broadcaster RAI TV aired the documentary “Fallujuah: The Hidden Massacre.”

https://www.democracynow.org/2005/11/17/pentagon_reverses_position_and_a...

U.S.-led forces appear to be using white phosphorus in populated areas in Iraq and Syria

By Thomas Gibbons-Neff
June 9, 2017 at 2:53 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/09/u-s-led-for...

And we still got run out of there.

We can’t whip the Taliban after 15 damn years, and we got run out of Iraq. Russia is way out of our league.

EDIT: typo

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@Amanda Matthews We've been lied to since kindergarten, subtly but pervasively. The lying has never ceased. The only hopeful sign is that more people are learning this.

For my part, when CNN or MSDNC broadcast anything, I automatically think the opposite until proven otherwise.

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@Alligator Ed @Alligator Ed

Government says. I think I printed stuff that directly show US Government lies and hypocrisy.

EDIT: mw/me

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@Amanda Matthews

his reports will make smoke come out of your ears, speaking about "barbaric".

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@wendy davis

a rogue nation. From you link...

The report concluded that the U.S. had used a number of biological weapons, including use of anthrax, plague, and cholera, disseminated by over a dozen of different devices or methods...

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given sarah sander's presser: 'nothting's been decided, targets have been suggested, and now yeah, yeah, mad dog (via Rt) 'Having second thoughts? Mattis says US ‘still assessing intelligence’ on alleged Syria attack', what a way to lull the world...and hit any 'targets', wherever, by whomever, including israeli jets, off-shore ships with missile batteries...

with that cheery thought i'll say goodnight, and bring this as tonight's lullaby. love to you all; make community with those you can.

"war...children...it's just a shot away..."

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@wendy davis

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@Alligator Ed
close to the top of my favorites list. "peace thru music", oh, my. the house band is beyond compare, and when i need a major lift, i blast this one. 'titi!' (never can remember the israeli female vocalist/dancer's name). mr. wd is enthralled by the bass player, and i can understand why... magnificent!

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@wendy davis

battle-ships, war-planes and subs from multiple countries all massing just off Syria - and they wrecked everything by sinking them all, just because we started sending off our beautiful missiles at them! How dare they defend themselves against exceptional us?

We aren't supposed to get shot back at in an illegal military attack based on false pretenses which we like to term WAR! These guys are evil! Usually, it's a ginormous military mugging of vulnerable, poor countries without air defenses, where we get to kill lots of civilians and call them terrorists... maybe we'd better stick to those? Keep starving some of those excess children, maybe that's easier...

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@Ellen North

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