Oh jeeze, someone just poked the Bear. NOT a good idea IMO.
Commando op underway at crash site to trace MANPAD rocket origin – Russian MP
A Syrian special forces operation is reportedly underway in the area where a Russian Su-25 jet was downed by a MANPAD rocket on Saturday. The goal is to find evidence allowing the weapon to be traced to its origin.
The Russian warplane was downed by a shoulder-fired anti-aircraft rocket, according to the Russian defense ministry. Moscow is very interested in establishing how exactly the weapon system got into the hands of the militant group responsible for attack, Russian MP Vikotor Volodarsky told RIA Novosti.
The group that had the MANPAD has been destroyed by the Russian Air Force. Now the Syrian commandos are working on the ground. If they find elements of that launcher, we could trace its serial number and establish its origin to the factory in a few days, find out how it got there,” the Russian MP said. He added Russian planes are providing air support to the Syrian troops.
https://www.rt.com/news/417831-syria-operation-manpad-search/
According to the article we’ve already said it wasn’t us. We didn’t give any rebel organizations any rockets. Oh hell no.
But what if it IS ultimately tracked back to the US?
The insanity in the Middle East is escalating. The cause of the demise of every great civilization has been overextendion and war. Well we are ‘overextended’ and we have wars and military meddling going on all over the planet. The tired old men in the Pentagon are still looking for one they can win though. And they’ll kill us all in the process.
Where is our prace movement? Where are our ‘lefty’ leaders? Where are the churchrs? Where is everybody? Has the way the government cracked down on protesters during the build up to ‘Shock and Awe’ on down to the NDAPL protests in North Dakota scared everybody off? Can we still organize? Or does it even matter anymore?
https://www.livescience.com/51281-sixth-mass-extinction-is-here.html
EDIT: Tebel/rebel
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It was probably us, but may have been done
through layers of intermediaries. If so, I place my money on the Turkish government.
I think the Turks have a fascinating culture and am sorry they have a government almost as crappy as mine.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
layers of intermediaries
As much of a clusterfuck as Syria has become, Cat alone knows how this came to be.
Gak.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Right but my money is on the Saudis
They were known previously to buy American weapons and promptly shipped them to ISIS.
My money
is on Isreal.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
@earthling1 Israel and the Saudis
Israel and the Saudis, at this point, amounts to the same thing. Which is a mindfuck in itself.
How the hell does Israel end up allying itself with Wahabbist crazies?
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Israel and the Saudis
Strange bedfellows indeed, but I think it falls under the premis; mine enemy's enemy is my friend. Until he isn't.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
@MrWebster Oh, God. Yes. Of course
Oh, God. Yes. Of course, the Saudis.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Welcome to the Middle East, tovarisch Bear!
Fortunately, the Russians aren't ignorant of how often Americans got killed in Iraq and Syria by American-made weapons. So, although the Bear's been poked, the Bear will insist on knowing just who did the poking, not just who grew the stick he was poked with.
Welcome to the Middle East, tovarisch Bear! I'll give you a clue: it's all just like Afghanistan.
The whole damn joint is a serious clusterfuck, and we Europeans -- all of us, Russia included -- need to just keep the fuck out of there. IMHO, anyway.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Add In the Turks, and Erdogan the Madman, and It Does Look
kind of scary, for sure.
Not kidding about Erdogan, man. I watched one of his speeches. He's a messianic fucking nutter.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
@k9disc He treats his own people
He treats his own people like shit. Tyrannical bastard. Turkish Bibi.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Will the US starting fighting the Russians directly in Syria????
Earlier incident:
Russia implies US involvement in drone strikes on Syria military bases
Attacks on its bases in Syria would have required assistance from a country with satellite navigation, says Russian defense ministry, a charge the Pentagon denies
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/09/russia-syria-drone-attacks...
@MrWebster That appears to be what
That appears to be what our own Deep State is trying to accomplish.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Ha! now That's funny!
Everybody's mother (and aunt and uncle) is trading arms in the M.E. sandbox. Hell, Russia prolly got it from U.S., then sold it to Syria. Good luck tracking that down!
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Over extended... Nonsense
We haven't even used any of our nukes. Fuck the Russians, they are not our friends.
Why are the Russians not our ‘friends’?
(And who said they were in the first place? That’s not at all what the article or post is about.)
And who’s the actual rogue nation suoplying both side with weapons? Who’s friend are we over thete? Beside Israel, of course. Who’s the biggest arms dealer to the area? Who sells to all sides? What was really going on in Benghazi?
How smart is it that we’re over there still trying to force the collapse of the Syrian government?
Again, whose ‘friend’ are we?
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Satan's? n/t
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
He’s probably disgusted too. The ham-fisted
Ignorant way this country operates probably embarrases him too.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
@Song of the lark The people running the
The people running the American government are not my friends, either. Nobody powerful is my friend, at this point.
I'd take Putin over the people running my own government, only because he has less of an appetite for nuclear war. As someone living on this planet, I'm not interested in seeing multiple mushroom clouds on the horizon, nor of dying of radiation poisoning (a crap death if there ever was one).
It's beyond me why anybody would indulge in hating people based on nationality at this point, except for a few massively bad-faith actors who seem to be intent on hastening Armageddon by all means possible.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver