(Why do Strzok & Page still have jobs?): New FBI messages reveal agents sought way to evade federal record requirements

We are at a point where someone needs to hold hearings on FBI corruption. There’s a reason they had no problems regarding The Clinton Creature’s private server. The reason is that they do everything possible to hide what they’re up to, including using devices to evade being called out for their own sneaking around.

New FBI messages reveal agents sought way to evade federal record requirements

In the past two decades as communications via email, smart phones and social media have grown routine, there’s evidence that federal officials have consciously devised ways to thwart public records laws and keep their communications — our records — secret. Federal officials have used private email accounts, private servers and aliases (not their own name) for public business. They have deleted or lost messages that are supposed to be saved.

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In a new exchange released by the Senate Homeland Security committee today, FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok seem to discuss this very issue in private texts.

Page: Have a meeting with turgal about getting iphone in a day or so

Strzok: Oh hot damn. . . We get around our security/monitoring issues?

Page: No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently the requirement to capture texts came from [Office of Management and Budget], but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we. I’m told – thought I have seen – that there is an IG report that says everyone is failing. But one has changed anything, so why not just join in the failure.

http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/371853-new-fbi-messages-reve...

Well boy howdy. Sounds like the FBI is doing what they were investigating TCC for doing. They hide information and documents to get around the FOA. They use ‘untraceable’devices. And they lie when caught.with their hand in the cookies jar. Old J. Edgar would be proud.

But what can we do? The FBI has always believed the rules aren’t for them and that the ‘end’ justifies the means.

Of course that ‘end’ just happens to be whatever TPTB want it to be.

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Alligator Ed's picture

This exchange between the star-chamber crossed lovers is grounds enough for a conspiracy conviction as it likely will be followed by release that just such a distortion of "transparency" regulations did in fact occur.

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We need every agent to be an Untouchable.
It would be a first, otherwise the Untouchables would not have been so notable.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

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are simply symptomatic of the corruption of the FBI at its upper levels. Strzok was the number two man at Counter Intelligence behind Bill Priestap who was aware of what was happening based upon Strzok's text message to Page, and Page was the attorney to the number two man at the FBI, Deputy Director Andrew McCabe who was heavily involved in the FISA warrants. McCabe authorized at least one of the FISA requests and admitted under oath to Congress that the FISA request would have never been granted without the Steele dossier.

These people were not rank and file agents, but were within the very upper ranks of the agency itself. They were privy to and on a first name basis with the top officials at the FBI as reflected in their text messages.

Based upon what I have been reading, this is not going to go away. These people knowingly lied to a federal judge in obtaining a FISA warrant. They failed to provide exculpatory information required under FISA (ie, the Steele dossier was bought as an opposition research document by the Clinton campaign). Also they presented a Yahoo article written by Michael Isikoff as corroboration of the information in the dossier. The problem is that Isikoff got his information from Christopher Steele who wrote the dossier.

I will go back to my original gripe in this whole thing. The ability of the government to spy upon American citizens without their information under a FISA warrant is unconstitutional under the 4th Amendment to the COnstitution. Now what we are seeing is how low the bar is for the government to even get a FISA warrant and how FISA warrants can be abused for political purposes.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

k9disc's picture

The person of interest in a FISA surveillance case was the lawyer of recently retired / forced out McCabe?

Seriously?
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@k9disc which has a paywall that I can no longer get by, but here is the summary from my search. If Lisa Page was not working directly for Andrew McCabe, she had close access to him.

Top FBI official assigned to Mueller's Russia probe said to ...
During the Clinton investigation, Strzok was involved in a romantic relationship with FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who worked for Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, ...

I am looking for another source which I can link without a paywall.

A quote from the Post article was linked in another article here:

During the Clinton investigation, Strzok was involved in a romantic relationship with FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who worked for Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

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is not related to Carter Page, as far as we've been told. But it is confusing when just the last name is used.

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