Comey brings up McCarthy and gets bashed on Twitter

Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 02/01/2018 - 9:10pm

All should appreciate the FBI speaking up. I wish more of our leaders would. But take heart: American history shows that, in the long run, weasels and liars never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. Not a lot of schools or streets named for Joe McCarthy.

— James Comey (@Comey) February 1, 2018

A government interfered in our election to influence the outcome and it wasn't the Russian Government — It was the Obama Deep State

— Jacob Wohl (@JacobAWohl) February 1, 2018

But fear not, there are a lot of people who are defending him.

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Submitted by doh1304 on Thu, 02/01/2018 - 9:39pm

I have a theory

That when Loretta Lynch ordered Comey to whitewash Hillary he had a realization that if he didn't he would be renamed Vince Foster, so he decided to do such a long, drawn out, obviously incompetent whitewash that it would do HER more harm than good. Remember when the Hillbots kept screaming that Comey's constant reviving of the investigation cost HER the election? Well maybe that's what Comey was doing.
Then again, my vocation is writing humorous fantasy novels.

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Submitted by Roy Blakeley on Thu, 02/01/2018 - 11:02pm

If you read the two FBI dossiers on the DNC leak

@doh1304 and Podesta fishing, they are so unconvincing that, to me, it reads like the FBI agents were saying to the reader, "I was told to write a dossier saying the Russians are responsible, but I got nothin."

Submitted by Big Al on Thu, 02/01/2018 - 10:03pm

The funny thing is

that with ALL of this bullshit, one fact is never brought up or discussed, perhaps deliberately. And that is the fact that we don't live in a democracy so none of this matters. Even if whoever hadn't done or did do what they did or didn't do, that election was illegitimate from the start. All the talk about who supposedly interfered in the election misses that key fact.

Maybe that's part of what's going on, to display to the public that if it wasn't for outside and internal interference, somehow the election was all right. It was never all right and the next one won't be all right either.

Submitted by ggersh on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 8:19am

It's the enemy within, clinton sold us out to China

@Big Al

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

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Submitted by dfarrah on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 8:54pm

I don't understand your comment.

@Big Al

Maybe that's part of what's going on, to display to the public that if it wasn't for outside and internal interference, somehow the election was all right.

Would you mind clarifying? Who is trying to display to the public and what do you mean by 'what's going on.'

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Thu, 02/01/2018 - 10:30pm

I doubt that people will ever see things like we do here

Maybe that's part of what's going on, to display to the public that if it wasn't for outside and internal interference, somehow the election was all right. It was never all right and the next one won't be all right either.

People are so wrapped up in believing that the only way Hillary could have lost is because of outside interference. Either by Comey reopening his investigation into her emails or Russia placing ads on FB and Twitter. I have seen some of the ads and they don't do anything to get people to vote against her or for him. They are pretty much about the social issues that were happening at the time. The mind pretzelization of how people feel about Comey has to hurt. They're upset that he reopened his investigation and are upset that Trump fired him. How does this work?

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Submitted by Big Al on Thu, 02/01/2018 - 11:07pm

Well, first we have to remember that probably 60-70% of

@snoopydawg the public doesn't even know who Comey is and have no idea what is really going on except typical D.C. bullshit. For those that are somewhat tuned in, most of it is tribal because of the two political parties. We saw today a statistic that over 40% identify as indies with dems at 29% and republicans at 26%. So what we're talking about is partisan dems vs partisan repubs with some outsiders like us and on the other side.
And the media.
Unfortunately that's what controls the entire narrative and it revolves around these two political parties. That has got to change.

Submitted by Alligator Ed on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 12:23am

I like your essay

@snoopydawg More telling than bringing up McCarthy is Comey's mention of weasels and other unwanted pests.

"After the memo" will sound the death knell of the establishment Dem party. They are dead men and women walking. (In Fancy Nancy's case, I'm not sure she still has a functioning brain). The aftermath of this release of Obama's attempted coup machinations will doom the party. I doubt the Dems will be resuscitated but gradually be replaced by third and possibly fourth parties.

Submitted by doh1304 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:04am

I just saw a "news" question of Nancy

@Alligator Ed
She sounded at first like she was just reading from a script written by a 5 year old, but then her voice started sounding strange. It sort of squeaked, like a mouse. I don't know, did she suddenly realize that she was a lousy liar, or did she suddenly realize that she was trying to dig a foxhole in quicksand?

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:38am

Seriously who talks like this?

@Alligator Ed

Weasels and other unwanted pests? I bet that anyone who is buying into what the FBI is selling had a different opinion of them during the Bush years. Remember how many said that they were not to be trusted and that they were lying about the WMDs? This is what I just don't understand. They know that the FBI, CIA and other intelligence agencies will say anything they want in order to get their agendas passed. And they did. So why are people believing them now? Oh yeah, because Hillary lost the election.

Has anyone heard that China has been threatening us lately? Yeah me neither. But here's the CIA director Pompeo telling us that China is as big a threat to us as Russia is. Wait, what? Have I missed the news that China has been invading countries and stealing their resources or interfering in their elections too? Apparently.

Pompeo flagged the CIA’s focus on China as far back as July when he told the right-wing Washington Free Beacon that Beijing, not Moscow, posed the bigger long-term threat to the United States because of its robust economy and growing military power.

Let's talk about some hypocrisy, shall we?

The 55-page document warned that “American competitors weaponise information to attack the values and institutions that underpin free societies, while shielding themselves from outside information.”

Oh no, how will we combat this? I know...

The underlying implication is that the US must crack down on basic democratic rights, as is already underway in the measures by American corporations such as Google and Facebook to “shield” Internet users.

Yep, that's the ticket. In order to keep us safe from outside interference by foreign countries that want to impose their way of life on us, let's take away our civil rights by creating 800 private corporations to spy on us and build up our police departments so that they can beat us or kill us just before another country does it first. I can't say that I disagree with this:

The hypocrisy involved is stunning.

Oh well, maybe Nancy will come on our tv boxes and tell us that this is for our own good because of national security. Or something.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:42am

P.S.

The article concluded by declaring that “America has never faced a rival quite like China,” then added: “America certainly doesn’t want a new ‘Red Scare,’ but maybe a wake-up call.” In reality, a vicious new McCarthyite witchhunt is exactly what is being prepared, with the assistance of the media, to pave the way for further deep inroads into democratic rights as the US war drive against China accelerates.

Great. Another Red Scare.

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Submitted by OLinda on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 2:18am

Greenwald replies to Comey

The place where you worked for a decade, and where all FBI agents in Washington work now, is named after J. Edgar Hoover, and a sign honoring him sits in front of that building https://t.co/6lrpAlZcCS https://t.co/n7PPea581z

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 1, 2018

Comey:
… But take heart: American history shows that, in the long run, weasels and liars never hold the field, so long as good people stand up. Not a lot of schools or streets named for Joe McCarthy.

Submitted by on the cusp on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 8:17am

oh, snap.

@OLinda

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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 7:47am

Julian Assange nailed it!

with this tweet about the memo.

I find it remarkable how comprehensively the Democrats, DoJ and FBI have played into Trump's hands over the Nunes memo. By conspicuously trying to hide information they have aligned themselves against the public, drawn suspicion and imbued the memo with totemic power.

— Julian Assange ⌛ (@JulianAssange) February 1, 2018

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Submitted by Citizen Of Earth on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 9:14am

Trump's Twitter Troll Troops

have commandeered the hashtag #Patriots. It drives me crazy because I'm a NE Patriots fan and use that tag to follow team news. Now half of the tweets on that hashtag are from President Shithole's Useful Idiots.

I agree with Comey that President Shithole has ushered in a Neo-McCarthy era. Or to quote gjohnsit, an "Orange Hitler" era.

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Submitted by edg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 11:55am

That comment doesn't make sense.

@Citizen Of Earth

Sure, Trump is a shithole and a shithead. But it's not him that ushered in McCarthy 2.0. It's Democratic brainwashers, with their sly tagging of anyone that disagrees with them as a Putin-loving Russian stooge.

Brainwashing works, doesn't it?

Submitted by Citizen Of Earth on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 12:31pm

Hahaah. Did You Just Call Me "Brainwashed"?

@edg
Speaking of Brainwashed, You are the one who is always trying to Normalize Trump.
"Sure, Trump is a shithole and a shithead." -- finally got you to say it even if you don't mean it.

Trump is constantly Brainwashing the ignorant masses:
- Hate the kneeling football players (aka hate the blacks)
- Hate immigrants for stealing your jobs, and raping your women
- Hate libruls because they don't like your Messiah (aka libruls hate the demigod Trump)
... I could add to this list all day.

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Submitted by edg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:09pm

Anything new?

@Citizen Of Earth

You just listed a bunch of traditional Republican antics (demonizing minorities and immigrants, etc.). So what has Trump done that's new, something that's above and beyond what Republicans have always done? You hardcore Democrats, on the other hand, have gone all Joe McCarthy with your Russophobia. You should be ashamed of yourselves. McCarthy was a Republican, dude. Why do you want to be like him?

Submitted by Citizen Of Earth on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:36pm

Oh so now I'm Joe McCarthy?

@edg
Hahaha. Keep digging, you'll get there.
For the record, I hate democrats as much as the repubs (well almost).

Yes, Trump has all the traits that make Repubs sociopaths, plus he is a major league douchebag.

I know alot of folks here think the Mueller probe is a red herring. I'm not so sure. I say let it play out. I suspect we may find out someone on the Trump team was dealing in selling political influence for cash (just my suspicion). Yes, just like the Clinton Foundation was doing it. The Clintons set the bar. They are all neck deep in corruption.

PS No, I'm not ashamed of myself.

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Submitted by edg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 2:24pm

You're drifting.

@Citizen Of Earth

Your comment that I responded to was "I agree with Comey that President Shithole has ushered in a Neo-McCarthy era." I correctly pointed out that it's Democrats that are doing the McCarthy thing. 'Nuff said.

Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 11:04am

I don't think it's a good thing to bash the FBI so much

It is a safeguard, a very flawed one, but it is a safeguard against dictatorship. It's very convenient for Trump for us to bash the FBI before we know shit. Maybe Putin is brainwashing people. Somebody certainly is.

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Submitted by konondrum on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 11:34am

What a bizzare comment.

@Timmethy2.0 Would you like to explain what the heck that is supposed to mean? What has the FBI ever done in service of the American People? What valuable and critical service does it provide, I'm truly at a loss here.

Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 12:14pm

Al Capone

@konondrum @konondrum

What has the FBI ever done in service of the American People?

And many other mobsters (not including Whitey Bulger). Many real spies for other countries have been stopped. And a whole load of other things. I'll take the FBI any day over the KGB.

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Submitted by konondrum on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 12:21pm

What the hell

@Timmethy2.0 @Timmethy2.0 Does prosecuting mobsters have to do with "safeguarding us from dictatorship"? Why do you need a federal police to prosecute mobsters in the first place? Truly, truly strange line of reasoning here.

Edited: And who said anything about the KGB? You gonna come out and defend the CIA now? Seriously man you sound unhinged.

Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 12:45pm

Having a national police force

@konondrum
That is answerable to the Constitution Is a f**k of a lot better than having a national police force that is answerable to Trump or any dictator i.e. a Gestapo. Or do you care about that?

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Submitted by edg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:12pm

Answerable?

@Timmethy2.0

Have you ever bothered to read any history about J Edgar Hoover? Please do read some. Then get back to us about how Constitution-loving the FBI is.

Submitted by konondrum on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 1:14pm

Gestapo?

@Timmethy2.0
What the hell are you talking about? Who is suggesting that we enable a secret police? Quit putting your crazy ideas in my mouth.

Submitted by Blueslide on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 2:05pm

Who is suggesting that we enable a secret police?

@konondrum Actually, Donald Trump is for one.

I certainly understand there are few FBI fans in the room. But right now, our real and present danger is Trump. Tactical nukes, goading nuclear power states, undermining the judiciary and every department of the government with appointments of wingnut incompetents.

While I agree there needs to be more evidence flushed out with the Russia conspiracy, we really have no clue what Comey knows or doesn't know. No matter what, it's pretty obvious Trump and his troupe of jesters have many ties with the Russian kleptocracy.

I would be quite happy if Trump goes down with conspiracy to obstruct justice charges, which I believe he is guilty of, even if we rely on his own words and actions as evidence. But I also know that won't happen, at least not with this Congress.

Submitted by konondrum on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 2:19pm

I know

@Blueslide That if Comey told us everything he knows I wouldn't believe a word of it. These people are professional liars. The idea that the FBI is a remotely credible organization is laughable.

Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 2:47pm

How do you know that?

@konondrum @konondrum

I know that That if Comey told us everything he knows I wouldn't believe a word of it. These people are professional liars

Are you like Trump where you know everything without ever having to listen or learn? That's what dictators do. They pretend to know everything so they don't have to listen and therefore they can never learn and they're almost always wrong and they create chaos. "I know that climate change is a hoax therefore I don't have to listen to scientists who spend their lives listening and learning about the climate crisis."

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Submitted by konondrum on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 2:48pm

Seriously

@Timmethy2.0 Why don't you go back to blaming Comey for getting Trump elected? You partizans can't keep your story straight. One week Comey is the devil, subverting democracy. The next he is the only thing preventing a new fascist overlord. The FBI has always been rife political hacks and liars, do a little research.

Submitted by Timmethy2.0 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 3:14pm

I ain't no partisan

@konondrum @konondrum
I just highly respect people who know what they don't know and therefore seek to learn in as unbiased a way as possible. Ignorance has a lot more to do with ego than intelligence. I don't know what Comey is doing and would be very ignorant and reckless of me to pretend to know. I'm going to wait and see. The stakes are extremely high as far as our Republic is concerned.

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Submitted by konondrum on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 3:24pm

Not buying it

@Timmethy2.0 You started this thread with
"Maybe Putin is brainwashing people. Somebody certainly is."

The FBI has done a lot of brainwashing of the American people in the past, so why should we trust them now? The idea that they are going to hold the administration accountable is just not remotely believable. Whatever Comey is up to, it sure isn't for the American public, it's to protect the powerful as always.

Submitted by lizzyh7 on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 3:39pm

Here are two very good articles

@Timmethy2.0 @Timmethy2.0 you may want to take a look at. I sure hope I linked them right.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/06/russia-gates-mythical-heroes/

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/11/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/

Somehow I don't think the FBI would ever save us from a coup or whatever other threat there might be to our "government" unless they were on the side of those overthrowing or had something to gain by putting down a coup. They're as dirty as the CIA. They are part of the Deep State and NONE of them are clean in any way, shape or form. Sure, individual agents of the FBI maybe, but there is such a thing as the "tone from the top" that most organizations do follow whether individuals like that or not. Pinning our hopes on memo-gate or the FBI isn't the answer.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Fri, 02/02/2018 - 5:43pm

Well for one thing

@Timmethy2.0

Comey stated that Hillary shouldn't be prosecuted for using her private email server because "no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against her" while all the time knowing that the original charges were "grossly negligent." Anyone else who had done what she did would be sentenced to prison for many years. The submarine member had one picture of his sub that was found years after he left the navy and he was sentenced for two years. I think what Hillary did was far worse.

Both the FBI and the CIA cooked the false intelligence for the Iraq war. The FBI routinely sets up marginal people to try a terrorist attack when if they had left him alone they would never have thought that up. Then there's the CIA renditioning people to countries that will torture them even when they are innocent. I could go on... These are not good agencies.

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