Cenk Uyghur fired from Justice Democrats (edited to add link)

Following the ignominious road now plodded by Rachel Madcow, though for a much different reason, Cenk Uyghur gets first that he and Kyle Kulinsky began earlier this year: the so-called Justice Democrats. Well, I have to admit that the JDs lived up to their name by delivering justice to a horrible hypocritical misogynist, Armenian genocide denier, Cenk Uyghur (CU--as in see you later...alligator).

At first, like Madcow, CU was fun to watch with his fire and brimstone tirades against the establishment. But later the would-be political boss of his JDs muted (or, rather, mutilated) his progressive bona fides when, despite endorsing Bernie early on, became hysterical in his adoration of the Mad Bomber.

Why the change in attitude? It could be the $20,000,000 contribution (bribe) from the Clinton Conspiracy:

The main conduit for the funding is a newly created growth equity fund called 3L Capital, with additional financial backing from venture capital groups Greycroft Partners, E.ventures, and WndrCo. — which was recently launched by Hollywood mogul Jefferey Katzenberg.

“News is red hot right now and being positioned on the progressive side of the coin has put us in a very good place,” Uygur said, according to Bloomberg.

Far from being an independent progressive news source, as they proclaim to be, the TYT network is now being supported by your run of the mill corporatist Clinton money machine. Although attempting to publicly operate as an insurgent progressive activist outlet – think Bernie Sanders – the financial backing by the aforementioned entities reveals something vastly different.

One need only look at who is behind the funding to understand the agenda being put into motion.

The article goes onto link funding to various establishment Dem donors.

The following quote mirrors my thoughts precisely:

So, when super rich centrists invest $20 millions of dollars into the company, one must wonder if this is to support them or to change their messaging, in an effort to keep them from promoting real progressives like Bernie during the next election cycle. Buying up leading progressive influence sites like the Young Turks is an ingenious strategy by the oligarchy to maintain control of political discourse in the United States.

It seems obvious that the Clinton machine has a strategy in place to prevent the rise of the next Bernie Sanders, and Uygur seems more than content to sell out his progressive base to standard corporatist Democratic control. Make no mistake — these Clinton cronies are buying influence in progressive outlets in an effort to maintain power for the political and financial elite. The oligarchy refuses to allow for political discourse to manifest organically, and are working diligently to propagandize the public.

We talked about the Court of Public Opinion (CPO) in a previous essay (by we I mean community members): https://caucus99percent.com/content/sexual-harassment-and-court-public-opinion

A flame war developed as previously discussed in this forum and I will desist any temptation to relitigate the issue. Instead, I will present without comment, some of the quotes attributed to CU--which he does not deny.

On women being genetically flawed for not wanting to have enough sex (2000):
It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean. Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.

His warning to women that something sexual needs to happen by the third date and "orgasm by the fifth date" (2002):
Women, ignore these at your peril. Rule 1: There must be some serious making out by the third date. If I haven’t felt your tits by then, things are not about to last much longer. In fact, if you don’t get back on track by the fourth date, you’re done. Rule 2: There must be orgasm by the fifth date.

On "one of the best nights of my life," in which he kissed almost two-dozen women and "felt countless breasts" (2003):
I had one of the best nights of my life at Mardi Gras. I kissed over 23 different women, saw and felt countless breasts, and was in a wonderful drunken stupor thanks to my friend [Jack Daniels whiskey].

On chatting up teen girls he described as "whores in training" while on a road trip with now senior VP of The Young Turks, David Koller (2004 ):
In one small Pennsylvania town we stopped for gas, and while Cenk filled up I went to talk to these three girls who were walking down the road nearby. Turns out they were three teenage girls, whores in training, literally looking for boys to pick them up. They were around 14-16 and in a few more years will be pretty damn good looking.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/24990/young-turks-cenk-uygur-called-out-t...

Let's run that one by again: "whores in training"

What a fine role model. Now he is in the morass afflicting so many, primarily Democratic malefactors. Going, going, gone!

Jamarl Thomas starts off a longish video (3:08:05) about this bloviating oaf (for whom I lost all respect when he came out pushing for the election of the Clinton Creature):

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9R8aHVkeGc]

Will Jimmy Dore stand by his disgraced employer or strike out on his own. Jimmy certainly cannot sympathize with CU's dreadful verbiage.

So many have fallen by the wayside because of Clinton: Sam Seder, Rachel Madcow, Counterpunch, etc.

Mount up, CU. Head your horse outta town:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf9D8my2hWQ]

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divineorder's picture

missing it? Thanks.

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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@divineorder

IMO JD have interesting slate of candidates some of which are worth supporting if one is into that sort of thing.

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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@divineorder Both things happen pretty frequently--virtue-signalling dividing movements, on the one hand; enforced unity papering over real conflicts, on the other. I'm genuinely uncertain as to what is going on here, since I'm not inside that movement.

What I am sure about is that, if you lie down with dogs, you get fleas, or perhaps I should say, live by neoliberal feminism, die by neoliberal feminism. Cenk chose to get in bed with Hillary. He's never been a very plausible leader of Justice Dems, seeing as how he went to bat with frantic enthusiasm for the very type of politician they oppose. It's almost fitting that he get taken down by their signature political gesture: scrutinizing a person's life, looking for something that can be interpreted as some kind of bigotry or violation, and using it as a wrecking ball.

Well, that's one of their signature gestures. They have two. The other is "You're being mean to Hillary, you bad person!"

In this case, eighteen years ago or not, two of those statements are massively sexist, and if Cenk wanted to be a progressive media leader, in fact or image, he needed to take care of that baggage early. It wouldn't have been hard.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

You laid it out beautifully, as usual, thanks!

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... Cenk chose to get in bed with Hillary. ...

All he can see in half the population, are tits, and Hillary has whored not only herself but her entire country so they make a great pair, and I hope they're very, very happy together, somewhere far, far away where they can't harm or mislead anyone.

Have to watch that video, if it'll run for me; if the JD have dumped him, there was someone else in there who was also highly suspect and whose name I can't recall - does anyone else? If they've ditched the corporate/billionaire-interest crud, I'll have a lot more faith in them.

Edited for the obligatory letter-typo. And again after belatedly noticing that I'd hit bolding rather than block-quoting. I'm on a roll!

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@divineorder

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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Hartmann, too, for abandoning Bernie.

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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

Without Cenk they can go back to Scary Russia!

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@gjohnsit

This tweet is deep snark--if not, it as stupid as thinking HRC is wonderful (Cenk hasn't killed anyone yet)

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@Alligator Ed I agree that people need to be allowed to change and grow. However, if they're going to be political leaders, they need to show evidence of that change and growth, not just leave their baggage lying around waiting for somebody to dig it up and confront them with it. You have to do your due diligence, and let people know you don't believe that shit anymore.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Alligator Ed And anyway, I'm not sure how you can be a progressive leader and support fraudster Hillary Clinton, who drove the only candidate who even approached "progressive" out of the race with various forms of voter suppression.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@gjohnsit

Good point! This did occur (as far as I can tell, not having been following TYT for some time, and assuming that the video posted on here to which I refer was recent) as soon as Cenk started poking holes in one of the most obviously ludicrous RUSSIA!!! claims - supporting a (gasp) '3rd-Party' candidate who's not even a warmongering corporatist against some of the evidently cherished talking points - while, from my perspective, still validating the 'otherwise, everything else is RUSSIA'S FAULT' line, for which no evidence has yet been produced and against which evidence/indication generally does exist.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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Gave up on them when Cenk started kissing Hellery Ass.

They fired Jordan Chariton ( one of TYT few actual progressives) based on false allegations of sexual misconduct. That was quickly shown to be a hatchet job.
https://nypost.com/2017/12/13/former-reporter-sues-huffpost-for-23-5m-ov...

I assume Jimmy Dore just shows up now to pay his rent.

So there is little left on TYT to watch now anyway -- it's pure Democrap Propaganda like MSNBC.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

@Citizen Of Earth but I have to admit JD continuing to be a part of TYT and his refusal to take them to task for pushing Her, Russiagate, etc. has always bugged me. I understand the “don’t shit where you eat” philosophy but for someone who is so quick to call out the hypocrisy in others, it’s always seemed a bit hipocritical for him.

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Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.

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@Dr. John Carpenter @Dr. John Carpenter
just to scratch together donations to keep his Youtube channel alive. He pays everyone involved in the production aspects. So yeah, IMO he is keeping his TYT gig just to pay bills -- and has to walk a tightrope not to offend Cenk's sensibilities.

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@Dr. John Carpenter

??? Jimmy's been doing his own show - separate from TYT's Aggressive Progressive - for quite a while.

From his youtube page, here's a 2012 video mocking a Bible-lovin' climate-change denier.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TYTComedy/videos?view=0&flow=grid&sort=da

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Probably next thing we hear is that Jimmy Dore did something inappropriate twenty years ago and he will be gone too. (I hope not)! There are very few saints on this planet.

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@davidgmillsatty
that Jimmy Dore has said something that deeply offended people.
I wouldn't listen to him if he hadn't.

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@davidgmillsatty @davidgmillsatty Well, they tried the same thing with Bernie. He wrote an article in the 70s that said that some women have rape fantasies. Some Clintonites tried, early on, to frame that as "Bernie thinks women want to be raped."

Some women do have rape fantasies, but rape fantasies are not the same thing as an invitation to rape. Apparently people understand that, and the attack fizzled out.

It's better to attack people like Sanders--if you're going to do it from the right, like the Clintonites--if you use an entirely fact-free character attack. Such things can't be disproved or seen in perspective, since they're just statements: Bernie is racist, Bernie is an elitist, Bernie has problems talking to Black people

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

And somebody made the strategic error of trying to accumulate 8 women willing to fake up 8 claims of sexual harassment/assault against Bernie, to get him out of the way, on Twitter, from where it was immediately publicized with a single willing faker offering to do so at the point I saw it.

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a long time ago and just found him insufferable to watch. That said, kicking him for what he said 20 years ago? I'm a woman and that makes me feel uneasy. I can see it now: Bernie Sanders must not be supported because he wrote a pro-rape essay in the 70s. (You and I know better, but that's how they are going to scream it louder than ever if he runs again) Maybe all this #metoo movement will be used to make the "rape essay" stick tight to Bernie...yes I'm paranoid.

I also don't quite understand the point of this essay...does this mean we are supposed to bail on Justice Dems because Cenk is an ass? I'm not inclined to stop supporting Paula Jean Swearengin against Manchin just because she's backed by a Cenk associated organization.

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@zett 1. Cenk Uyghur is a misogynistic bully--I use the present tense because one of the quotes cited above comes from 2013--not 20 years ago.

2. The JDs did well by giving him the boot

Nowhere did I imply that the JDs were an organization NOT to be supported. I find the one JD requirement, not accepting corp/PAC money, to be insufficient for believing them to be a progressive organization. The same old crap shoot--you elect them when they seem virtuous (i.e., not accepting bribes) but "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely"

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@Alligator Ed @Alligator Ed When Sean King jumped on in support had to look.more carefully at this.

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One of these things is not like the other ones:

On women being genetically flawed for not wanting to have enough sex (2000):
It seems like there is a sea of tits here, and I am drinking in tiny droplets. I want to dive into the whole god damn ocean. Obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.

Women, ignore these at your peril. Rule 1: There must be some serious making out by the third date. If I haven’t felt your tits by then, things are not about to last much longer. In fact, if you don’t get back on track by the fourth date, you’re done. Rule 2: There must be orgasm by the fifth date.

I had one of the best nights of my life at Mardi Gras. I kissed over 23 different women, saw and felt countless breasts, and was in a wonderful drunken stupor thanks to my friend [Jack Daniels whiskey].

The only reason there's something wrong with the third statement is that I already know what an asshole Cenk is from the first and second statements. Therefore, I think it probable that some of those women may not have wanted to be felt up by Cenk Uygur. Asses who think women owe them sex, and that they'd better pay up fast, chop-chop, tend not to stand on the ceremony of consent. That is not, however, proof of wrongdoing, and it's unfortunate that, as per usual, we've got "lots of sexual activity" lumped in with misogynist tripe and sexist bloviating (great word, Ed), as one big, bad thing.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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There would have to be fairly serious Patreon/Kickstarter activity. I'm entirely in support of this, of course.

As for Justice Democrats, I never believed in them anyway.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver