Neolib YouTube host OK with his daughter's rape

Submitted by Alligator Ed on Tue, 11/28/2017 - 10:15pm

How nucking futs does one have to be to say something like this? Oh yeah, the Dims have a great sense of morality. Here is one who has a crush on Hillary--and probably John Pizza Map Podesta as well.

Sam Seder on the rape of his daughter.

I wonder if there is a statue of limitation on poor parenting--"It's alright to rape my daughter, as long as you're 'talented'".

So, not only does he not give a fuck about us plebes, but also doesn't care if his daughter gets raped. Sam, you and Roman P. should camp out together and chase down some young prepubescent tail as you are obviously a "very talented man" also.

Another sign of the disgusting rotting of whatever moral fabric our society might once have had (overlooking of course genocide, slavery, wage slavery, wealth inequality, and Hillary Clinton).

Jeffrey Epstein is proud of you!

Another shining star at MSNBC.

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Submitted by Alligator Ed on Tue, 11/28/2017 - 10:32pm

Sam Seder's co-conspirators

Submitted by gustogirl on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 12:06am

You have to wonder

what Seder thinks of his own sense of mis en place. You can't put anything past a guy who can speak like this about his own daughter.

Submitted by snoopydawg on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 12:29am

This moral fabric has always been this rotten

the issues that you mentioned have always been part of this country, IMO. This started with the genocide of the Native Americans and has continued since then. Our military is helping the Saudis commit genocide in Yemen and they are worshipped as heroes here.

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Submitted by Cant Stop the M... on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 7:33am

@snoopydawg I will likely go to my

@snoopydawg I will likely go to my deathbed having this argument. Yes, genocide and slavery are amoral horrors (it goes beyond immorality, to my mind). No, that doesn't mean that nothing has changed and everything has always been this rotten. Lots has changed, and everything hasn't always been this rotten. The new system, which is significantly more rotten than the old, has merely preserved the worst parts of the old system (racism, greed, slavery, perpetual war), while it burns everything else to ashes.

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Submitted by mhagle on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 8:59am

I agree that a lot has changed . . .

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I couldn't bring myself to listen to the Sam Seder clip. In May of 2015 I broke my ankle and was stuck in bed for 3 months. During that time I watched Sam every day on YouTube. I loved his show. However, once the election got underway, he was one of those guys I had to cut off. His daughter is only in 6th or 7th grade. Very disturbing.

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Submitted by Mark from Queens on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 12:52pm

So Sam Seder is another gone to the dark side, MSDNC host now?

@mhagle
How pathetic.

Thought he was great, back in the Air America days (think it was through him, actually, that I first heard of DK) and on Occupy. Literally ran into him at Zuccotti Park and stopped to say how much I liked him, while he was holding said daughter. To think, he was the co-host of a show with Janeane Garofalo, a great radical comedian who I'd be lost for words if she went in for $hills. And making such off-color jokes?

Guess he passed the Neoliberal/#StillWithHer zombie test for a role at ~~the Comcast-owned lapdog media company~~ Fox News Left.

No wonder Tim Black, and maybe another, had a spat with Seder recently.

Such a sad state of affairs, to watch otherwise brilliant people (Olbermann most prominently, who I can't even watch, with that completely embarrassing transformation) completely meltdown with manufactured fear and do the bidding of their corporate masters.

I guess Matt Lauer getting canned for sexual harassment is today's installment. Have to admit, I like seeing all these douchebags full of themselves and their power getting snatched away in this maelstrom. You can't really get more of a vanilla, hollow, corporate puppet than that YesMan clown.

We can only hope it leads to a fundamental change in the way society views unacceptable behavior. But as CStMS says, let's hear from the victims themselves first. Then we'll really know this is serious.

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Submitted by UntimelyRippd on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 10:30am

That looks like an ironic remark to me.

Polanski was practically a poster child for a strange variety of lefty apologetics, in which it was suggested that somehow he ought to perhaps be forgiven his transgression for no reason other than his artistic capacity. As I recall from reading about this situation over the years, this was more true in Europe than in the US -- the reflected dark side of Europe's less puritan attitudes about sexuality and higher regard for intellectualism. Seder's tweet appears to be an ironic response to the view that Polanski had "suffered enough" and that his artistic status should have earned him some kind of get out of jail free and come back to hollywood card.

The fact that people would even be willing to work with him -- some of them likely the same people who are suddenly getting very indignant, and retweeting MeToo -- is more than a little fucked up. The last Polanski film I saw -- which I wouldn't have watched had I realized it was a Polanski film -- was the ghastly Bitter Moon, "starring" Peter Coyote, Hugh Grant and Kristen Scott Thomas (the latter two being 2 or 3 years away from stardom at the time). The movie was inexpressibly awful, notwithstanding the opinion of Max O'Connell on indiewire ("Polanski's most underrated film"). Others who have worked for Polanski during his exile: Frank Langella, Johnny Depp, Kate Winslet, Jodie Foster (!!!!!!!), Sigourney Weaver, Ben Kingsley, Walter Matthau, Harrison Ford ... Good Fucking God, this is a list of Hollywood royalty.

Fifteen years ago, the same Academy that is now ostracizing an endless raft of serial (or not) abusers of their status and power -- the Academy that actually booted Weinstein out -- gave its Best Director award to a man who drugged and sodomized a 13-year-old girl, and who still doesn't seem to think that he did something fundamentally outrageous. And today, unlike Weinstein, Polanski remains a member in good standing.

The industry -- including some of the biggest female stars of the era, like Weaver, Foster and Winslet -- explicitly looked the other way at a sex crime that is worse than anything else that anyone else has been accused of in this current purge; indeed a sex crime that is about as bad as it gets without involving physical violence and/or injury. I don't understand how anybody could comfortably sit in a room with Polanski, nevermind work for him. The fact that so many could tells us everything we really need to know about the entertainment industry's ethical and moral vacuity, and explains perfectly why the rest of these guys, from high-level predators like Weinstein to less-loathsome men who couldn't see that they were crossing the line from enjoying the primary perk of male celebrity to implicit or explicit coercion, assumed that what they were doing was "normal" and "okay".

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Submitted by Alligator Ed on Wed, 11/29/2017 - 4:26pm

Seems like sexual abuse is only "bad" once uncovered

@UntimelyRippd Don't ask, don't tell. The lid is off the barrel. Those of you who think Pedogate is a nothingburger, are going soon to ask whether they prefer ketchup or mustard (assuming these terms don't have pedophilic connotations).

Polanski was practically a poster child for a strange variety of lefty apologetics, in which it was suggested that somehow he ought to perhaps be forgiven his transgression for no reason other than his artistic capacity. As I recall from reading about this situation over the years, this was more true in Europe than in the US -- the reflected dark side of Europe's less puritan attitudes about sexuality and higher regard for intellectualism. Seder's tweet appears to be an ironic response to the view that Polanski had "suffered enough" and that his artistic status should have earned him some kind of get out of jail free and come back to hollywood card. The fact that people would even be willing to work with him -- some of them likely the same people who are suddenly getting very indignant, and retweeting MeToo -- is more than a little fucked up. The last Polanski film I saw -- which I wouldn't have watched had I realized it was a Polanski film -- was the ghastly Bitter Moon, "starring" Peter Coyote, Hugh Grant and Kristen Scott Thomas (the latter two being 2 or 3 years away from stardom at the time). The movie was inexpressibly awful, notwithstanding the opinion of Max O'Connell on indiewire ("Polanski's most underrated film"). Others who have worked for Polanski during his exile: Frank Langella, Johnny Depp, Kate Winslet, Jodie Foster (!!!!!!!), Sigourney Weaver, Ben Kingsley, Walter Matthau, Harrison Ford ... Good Fucking God, this is a list of Hollywood royalty. Fifteen years ago, the same Academy that is now ostracizing an endless raft of serial (or not) abusers of their status and power -- the Academy that actually booted Weinstein out -- gave its Best Director award to a man who drugged and sodomized a 13-year-old girl, and who still doesn't seem to think that he did something fundamentally outrageous. And today, unlike Weinstein, Polanski remains a member in good standing. The industry -- including some of the biggest female stars of the era, like Weaver, Foster and Winslet -- explicitly looked the other way at a sex crime that is worse than anything else that anyone else has been accused of in this current purge; indeed a sex crime that is about as bad as it gets without involving physical violence and/or injury. I don't understand how anybody could comfortably sit in a room with Polanski, nevermind work for him. The fact that so many could tells us everything we really need to know about the entertainment industry's ethical and moral vacuity, and explains perfectly why the rest of these guys, from high-level predators like Weinstein to less-loathsome men who couldn't see that they were crossing the line from enjoying the primary perk of male celebrity to implicit or explicit coercion, assumed that what they were doing was "normal" and "okay".