Personhood For American Women
America's political system has a problem grasping the idea that American women are entitled to legal rights that are comparable to the legal and constitutional rights guaranteed to corporations.
Bill Moyers asks:
Why does the
right-wing anti-choice movement still exist when the majority of Americans want abortion safe and legal?
Following Roe v. Wade:
Conservatives reacted ferociously, and in the 44 years since the ruling, the Republican Party, dominated by the religious and political right, has crusaded to nullify Roe. Conservatives named to the Supreme Court for just this purpose have tried to whittle away at it, and according to the Guttmacher Institute, since the decision, states have enacted 1,074 restrictions aimed at limiting a woman’s access to legal abortion. In 2015 alone, conservative lawmakers considered nearly 400 bills to limit a woman’s access to legal abortion and passed 57 new restrictions.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/bill-moyers-questions-how-the-right-win...
My question is why The Democratic Party has given nothing but lip service to a woman's fundamental right to freedom of choice for health care decisions? There is absolutely no moral, ethical or religious justification for limiting a woman's access to abortion. Absolutely none.
We can have a rational discussion about medical guidelines for helping women make this decision based on medical consultation with her private physician, but the final decision is the woman's alone, based on her informed conscience.
The woman may choose to have discussions with family members, friends or religious/spiritual advisors. No person, corporation or judge should be allowed to reverse her decision in the first trimester.
Even in the second and third trimester the woman's decision should have presumptive authority. Child birth can be and is a life threatening medical procedure. The survival of the fetus, or baby if you prefer, is always a factor. It is insulting to any women that she would harbor a callous disregard for the life developing in her womb when she decides whether to choose abortion or birth.
Which brings me to this recent article:
Single-Payer: A Reproductive Justice Value
The reproductive justice movement focuses on expanding the ability of all people to access the full spectrum of reproductive health care -- from contraception and cancer screenings to abortion and prenatal care. This priority is particularly urgent amid a recent onslaught of unconstitutional restrictive laws. However, reproductive justice activists know that availability means nothing if patients cannot afford to see their physicians.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/42617-single-payer-a-reproductive-jus...
And an undercover attack on a woman's reproductive Rights:
GOP Sneaks Creation of Fetal Personhood Into Tax Bill in Giant Giveaway to Anti-Choice Religious Right
[T]he GOP has slipped a declaration of fetal personhood into a provision in the tax bill that would allow parents to create college savings accounts, known as 529 plans, for the unborn.
Ilyse Hogue of NARAL observes:
“The tax bill is a horror in many different ways that will be publicly debated over the next days and weeks,” Hogue said. “But the dangerous ‘personhood’ language needs to be highlighted, as it has the potential to dramatically shift the ideological underpinnings of our laws and our culture while having nothing whatsoever to do with helping middle-class Americans get ahead.”
https://www.alternet.org/right-wing/gop-sneaks-creation-fetal-personhood...
How did we get to this sorry state of affairs and what, if anything has the Democratic Party attempted or accomplished in the last 44 years, since Roe v. Wade, to even hinder the malicious attack on an American woman's reproductive rights?
[Edit to add Sister Joan Chittister's argument]
“I do not believe that just because you’re opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. in fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. and why would I think that you don’t?
More here:
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2015/07/31/catholic-nun-explains-pro-life-...
Comments
two out of three (ain't bad)
As Michael Lee "Meatloaf" Aday sang, "two out of three ain't bad".
With respect to moral or ethical justification, you're dead on the money, hitting it right out of the park. In fact, if you wanted to keep your triad, you could add "rational" and still be on rock-solid ground.
It's religion that is the whole and complete source of this particular problem. Stem to stern. All justifications for abortion restriction are religious ones. All of them.
And from a tiny minority of the world's religions, too. Only the Abrahamic religions -- and not even all of them -- are responsible for this garbage.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Should Have Said Scriptual
There is zero scriptural support for the Catholic/Protestant religious objections to abortion. One commonly used scripture is about Onan spilling his seed on the sand:
http://truetwistianity.blogspot.com/2013/03/onanism-and-masturbation-spi...
There is no Scriptual support for when life begins. None.
[Edit to add "quickening"]
From Webster's:
From this:
http://biblehub.com/topical/q/quickening.htm
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
@Meteor ManGod commands the killing
Oh Yeah!
The Old Testament God was a pretty evil bastard. Or the biblical scribes may have made imaginative transcriptions.
Of course we all know that God Hates Shrimp, because fish without find or scales are an abomination:
http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
@Meteor Man
He must have been a masochist as well as a psychopathic psychotic in the Old Testament to have made so many things he hated. Or was it reverse senility, like Merlin in the child's book, running counter to time and aging/'youthening' in reverse to the rest of us? Got nicer as the Earth aged? Or as the saddle-sores from riding dinosaurs faded?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ellen, Man rode dinosaurs, not God, silly!
Just ask them at the creationist museums. Unless, of course, they're the types who believe all those bones are the work of the debil, put here to test our faith.
Even making fun of that idiocy, just makes me sad.
@Deja
Hah, I would never listen to creationists! God could perfectly well have gone trailriding on dinosaurs with his Instant Human creations if he felt like it - wouldn't you get in there and play with your toys like that in your early years, if you were a god who'd constructed a whole ecological system out of clay you'd first created yourself?
(Seems obvious that god was in his infancy at that time, or he'd have thought to have just created the lot at once when he did the clay and all, and had 6 days of rest afterward. Of course, time-motion studies were created afterward as well, but you'd think he'd have thought of that, being god and all...)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
scriptural
That is correct. And it is my understanding that Jewish standards demand the preservation of the mother's life over that of the fetus when the two conflict.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
More Scripture About Abortion?
This is supposed to be 39 verses about abortion:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/abortion
Not seeing it. They seem to be more about adultery, taking any life and "unclean" women. Imaginative inferential leaps are required to read abortion in to any of these verses.
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
Yeah, I got stuck on that one too lol
But, it goes along with Moore's wife's press conference today(?), when she said, ". . . and he's a Christian.
'Cept, Jesus never said anything about abortion or killing babies. Never said anything about gay people or trans, either, for that matter. At least not according to the bible.
Yeppers
See God Hates Shrimp above. Lots of inventive reading between the lines going on. Probably the most confusing text in the whole book is the Golden Rule, which Rabbi Hillel explained pretty well:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/rabbi-hillel-quotes-on-judaism-and-i...
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
God also hates mixing cloth, and BACON!
The same Old Testament god who hates "fags", also hates bacon.
I used to seriously irk my private school and Sunday school teachers with all my questions.
Like, if god told Joshua not to pillage at Jericho, that implies he and his army had been doing it all along - even after Moses brought down the 10 commandments? That means he was stealing!
They seriously hated me.
And I was just a little, runt kid. Ha!
And I have so many more, especially with Adam and Eve populating the earth without incest, and that whole ark thing. Even as a kid, I knew it was bullshit.
OTOH, there are enough prominent rabbis in Israel who
won’t hesitate to say that the full meaning of “fellow” is actually “fellow Jew,“ and that G~d demands of believers that they make a sharp distinction between Jews and non-Jews.
http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/337161/israels-sephardic-chief-rab...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-non-jews-shouldnt-be-allowed-t...
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/adl-slams-shas-spiritual-leader-for-sayin...
@Deja
Hey, are you going to believe a lot of ignorant primitives from the distant past or some of the modern ones?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I did notice that rights of the unborn
thing when divineorder sent out the tweet showing the list of ugly. And that is chilling. And really, how likely is that to be abused by wealthy people who "think" they're going to have a baby but "haven't decided yet?" How does that work? My cynicism meter does go there.
I had to have an abortion when I was in the Army. I was on the pill the entire time and it was a second trimester by the time I even figured out I was pregnant. It does happen. I'll add no more gory details but I will say I never wanted kids, that's my own thing and left over from some childhood mess. But I drank and smoked and took the pill while pregnant, and I also had some vaccines for military duty. It was not an option for me to bring that baby into the world. The father, while professing anti-abortion views, knew I was not going to be challenged there. He said he regretted it afterwards, easy to do, but we were not serious as a couple and he knew it as well as I did by then. He handled it as well as he could. Poor guy was more nervous than me in the waiting room, I finally told him to just go to the car and wait...
I did not feel guilt for doing it but a huge and massive sense of relief. And I still do not feel guilt. I did have the full general anesthesia though, no need to invite trauma. There were other women there that day who were indeed traumatized to be there, but they too had their reasons. I'm grateful it was available for me.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
That's why I had a vasectomy done.
My wife and I both have disabilities and dealing with that is stressful enough. Not to mention I was raised in a home where alcoholism, abuse and partying were all too common.
It wasn't until my wife and I moved in together that I finally had a quiet home, with her and the cats of course. And that's how we'll keep it, I think.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Thanks, lizzyh7
Thanks for sharing this.
I too didn't know that I was pregnant for one of my pregnancies. Even not being on the pill at the time, I had my period for 4 months! Ain't that some shit? I bled monthly for 3 mos, after finding out I was preggo with my first child and just knew I was miscarrying, but it wasn't so.
I drank and smoked before finding out both times.
None of this is as cut and dry as the male majority calling the shots believe. I really like the closing quote in this essay, as well.
Exactly. NONE of this is cut
and dried, there are as many situations as there are people. How dare anyone who's not been in that position pass down some simplistic moralizing judgment when THEY DID NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
I tell my story ONLY for that reason - you don't know what might happen, you can think your ass is covered and find out it isn't, even when you did everything you could do to cover it. But it is simply so much more fun to judge, is it not? Just wipe away reality and judge away, until it happens to one of you or yours, and then by God, cue up the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the "unfairness" of it all. But fuck the rest of the world for making decisions YOU DON'T LIKE.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
@lizzyh7 hugs.
hugs.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good on you for
having the wisdom in making this decision. I explain to my daughters all the time that's it's o.k. to NOT have children. They are complete, beautiful and perfect without them.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
to not have children
The fundamentalist Protestants would have a cow over that, of course.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
How about the fertilized egg
How about the fertilized egg/fetus has a right as a 'person' to exist elsewhere and to be sucked out as a little blob of cells and placed in an incubator, all at public expense? Better yet, at the expense of those who personally demand that every
spermegg is sacred, even if there's a good chance that it wouldn't survive to make a baby anyway?Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I honestly think this is more about
… keeping women as livestock and monitoring the sire than it is about concerns for the unborn.
Until about 75 years ago, when women gained control over their talent for reproduction, the key concern was proving the father. The survival of the tribe depended on bloodlinks for the succession of rulers. For millennia, that meant putting women on a short leash or, better yet hiding them from view, throwing a veil over their heads, or locking them away. Animal husbandry kept chaos and drama at bay and protected mother and child from certain death.
I think concern for the fetus/child is an artful distraction, one that plays on human predispositions for physical survival. The truer motivation for imposing forced birth on women is to punish them for their sexual willfulness, to deliver retribution for her pleasure by derailing her future, and that of the child, into one grinding toil. There is nothing further to intellectualize or moralize about, here.
What is notable in all this, is that American society feels no noble obligation to house, feed, educate, and promote the good health and excellent spirits of future American citizens, without being forced to by law. They do not directly correlate the creation of a strong and highly educated generation of citizens to something in their own best interest, and in the best interest of the country. On the contrary, they believe that a policy of generous nurturing materially diminishes their own lives. They further believe the policy robs the children of the privileged of many opportunities that are their rightful inheritance. They will spend their entire political life seeking to slash the taxes that pay for this.
Brilliant post.
O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.
@Pluto's Republic
Another aspect is that this is a means of ingraining an acceptance of the right of outsiders to take control over the personal decisions and bodies of 'lesser beings' as though property.
This is accepted by the brainwashed and grants a feeling of entitlement to the (traditionally more powerful than women) men who do, making it easier to accept that those more powerful than they can also control theirs and framing this as a 'right' exerted by might. And we see where might makes right - and rights - takes society.
Sorta like the 'Exceptionalism' thing, where Americans have been kidded that it's themselves and their nation which are meant, when it's really just that the Psychopaths and Parasites That Be want the American people to believe that they themselves are too exceptional for reality, rules, laws and basic human decency or even species survival values to apply to the 'Most Exceptional Of All'. Themselves only. (Not that that's working as well as it did.)
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I love this quote, Meteor Man:
Love it!
The sister is wise!
May consult everyone and not one mention of the father.
As the grandmother of three boys, I don't believe in forced birth, forced motherhood, or forced fatherhood. He and she could have kept it in their pants.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Got it Nancy,
"just say No" and all will be good. Damn, and the rest of us just are not smart enough to get that, are we? What a special answer.
By the way, I paid for my procedure IN FULL, I did not ask for any money to make MY decision from anyone else. As for the father, he later married and had his own kids. Would it have been better for me to just have that child because he said he didn't "agree with abortion" and fuck up his life as well as mine? And just what if that baby had been profoundly disabled due to my actions while not knowing I was pregnant? Would that make you and the other moralists happy? Would that be the "right" answer so that no one "rights" were usurped?
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
All I'm talking about is equality.
Something so many women seem to interpret as rights they have but men don't.
I am not talking about you personally. I don't know you from Adam. Your life is your personal business, not mine.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Keep it in your pants
Are you pounding that into your grandsons' heads? Because, according to several men on this site, it's just what males do - and it's what females are for. One, in particular, believes that if they aren't allowed to have sex, bad things will happen to females when they're around females. Of course, it's up to the females to deal with it, when that inevitably happens, because it's their fault.
Caitlin says a lot:
Snipet
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/for-fucks-sake-stop-politicizing-this...
@Deja
Or that if they regard and treat women as people, they're a lot more likely to wind up with a willing and enthusiastic sexual partner.
Women never make passes
at men who grab asses.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
women never make passes
To the intelligent, 'tis clear as day
They rather tend to run away!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Does it ever work?
I've often wondered if that type of behavior has ever resulted in the groped/grabbed saying, "Now, that's hot! Let's do it!", then throwing themselves on their own backs and grabbing their ankles. (Same goes for obnoxious revving of engines.)
Then I realize, it may appear to be done in a sexual fashion, but it screams that the perpetrators think of their victims as objects to be humiliated. All goes back to power.
@Deja
Lol, gropers have to know that they haven't a chance, especially after groping someone. But that's as close as they're going to get. And in many cases they probably don't realize that they're humiliating themselves while trying to objectify women as ambulatory masturbation devices for the use of them, specifically.
I always tended to get more lectures than groping from that type; apparently I have no business being so fussy, lol. When asked if they imagined I was supposed to sleep with everybody, a typical answer was pretty much 'well, no, just with me.' But I used to go to bars on nights off to listen to live music a lot, back when that was standard, and I figured the problem was with drunken idiots thinking everyone went out to get laid by some total freaking stranger. (Ick!) And it's a common problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUtHjOvPKT0&list=RDyTCDVfMz15M&index=12
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Excellent! I'm a Bitch ;)
So irritated at being approached by married, and attached men, I once asked a guy who asked me out, "How would your wife feel about that?"
"I'm not married," he said.
"What about your girlfriend?" I asked.
"I don't have a girlfriend," he matter-a-factly responded.
So, I asked, "What about the girl you're fucking, who thinks she's your girlfriend?"
"You're a BITCH!," he yelled.
I'm a bitch & I do not feel ashamed!
[video:https://youtu.be/_ivt_N2Zcts]
@Deja
Lol, guys like that never get it in any sense anyway, precisely because they are like that. Jerks.
But there's always music, and a song for every circumstance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5gDOPgHuE
Edit to add that the video was not made available to my country. There's an awful lot of that about now; guess a number of record companies don't want international sales?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ellen, yours is a much better Bitch! ;)
I love that, and had never heard it before. The lyrics are perfect!
You call me a Bitch like it's a bad thing.
Exactly!
P.S. Ellen, you gonna do the PSA so we Murkins know about . . .
It would be very, very cool if you did an essay about what you're dealing with regarding the NAFTA negotiations and the issues that are happening in Canada re: stuff like the music, and everything else we're just la la la clueless about. Okay, not all of it, Jesus, you'd need your own site, but, you know, what's recent with how it's affecting you and yours. I know you say it's bec of moving into a new house, but you've said A LOT before that doesn't have anything to do with that.
@Deja
That's due to 'copyright issues', with intellectual property rights being pushed to ludicrous levels. Used to be that Canadians could access anything available in the US; increasingly that's not so. 'Trade deals' are, as you know, being used to cement corporate wish-lists into corporate 'law', to the detriment of the public interest in all areas.
Personally, I'd rather never again hear some of my favorite tunes and never hear of any number of really good bands than submit to unfair conditions in all such 'intellectual property rights' areas, but I can't afford to buy CDs anyway, or I'd have been doing that all along. Too bad people 'aren't worth' being paid enough to be able to buy their products and aren't worth being protected against being poisoned and otherwise injured at work because of 'cost-cutting' corporate corner-cutting measures, or there'd be an economy to keep these companies and those providing that product going...
Anyway, it's a freaking disaster, although we likely won't notice most effects just yet. But it seems predictable that we will be flooded with more initially cheaper - if more toxic and low-quality - foods and other products to drive local producers out and of course we'll be massively sued by multiple polluters for protesting everything, since our rights, health, countries and survival are being auctioned off our public servants for short-term increased wealth for the most destructively ruthless already having most.
There's the TPP (and several related, similar but bolstering control over countries for specific corporations in various industries, to follow, of course, if as yet unmentioned where I've managed to see, unless those evils are being more thoroughly implemented in those have been already added to the revised TPP to get it all through at once, as before, those could be kept from the American people via Fast-Tracking those especially nasty additions, but now they're getting their wish-list filled in the US anyway) going through as well as NAFTA and some European ones, at least one of which Harper put through by insisting over Merkel's (described as the most powerful woman in the world in Wiki, but not as powerful as corporate/billionaire money, I guess) objections that no environmental protections be included, and which was allowed to stand despite the fact that he was not entitled to put through even actual trade deals, (rather than corporate coups,) with an election that close. (Koch-sucking Harper being who Trudeau is a stand-in for, to avoid the riots should the former have been cheated in again.)
The problem is, of course, that this has to be addressed at source - from the Psychopaths That Be in the US and from the equally destructive EU and now other grouped countries corporate 'trade' scams from their corporate interests/billionaires, now all piling on to smother us all in suicidally murderous corporate 'law' literally killing us and the world. Even it all started with Bush 2 the freshly Clinton/corporate-Dem-polished and recycled turd, they're all globally out to get theirs while we still have anything left to loot or poison.
No wonder Bernie kept warning that one man - President or not - couldn't do much alone. It takes a village to save a village, fuck you very much Bush 2 Admin, Obama Admin, Bill and Hillary Clinton, et al.
And I'm having another spate of minute-by-minute-or-much-faster (continual, right now) disconnections, although I suspect that at least part (probably most, although some signal loss does affect both computers and is evidently a provider issue in those cases) of that is due to a youtube virus which was not removed - as my brother thought would occur (and which I rather doubted) - with the switch to Linux.
The few references I found to it included one on Pastebin with the original (this is a version 10, whatever that was designed to do) stated purpose to prevent the victim from ever again accessing Youtube (my only source of music) and the only resource located with removal advice refers to Windows (and the original virus) and was complicated enough, with nothing found as of yet as to what to do on Linux, of which I know nothing and which my brother says he'll look at the next time he comes into the city, whenever that is. But the disconnection and at least some of the lag is, I strongly suspect, related to that bug trying to redirect or possibly shut the whole computer down, not just Youtube. It gets on during these, where otherwise I typically get a 'cannot show this page as interruption occurred and the info cannot be verified' page and have to wait to go back and then wait to see if I can get through again
Between my glitches, (due to bad neurological and respiratory reactions to household/personal care chemicals, and therefore highly variable) and those of the computer, and the vanishing, for whatever reason, of access to a lot of internet information, I don't do any real research anymore, except for attempting a bit now and then on occasions when things are working better - especially including me, lol.
About all I do right now is sign petitions when Outlook isn't redirecting and I can access it, but was days late in responding to a birthday email from my sister because I rarely have it up/get on there anymore. And the computer's often veeeeery slooooow; not sure how much is due to the bug trying to redirect or whatever, but I think it's after my WiFi key, as it's been dropping the saved request, and the last couple of times had first one and then 2 dots showing for it and now it's re-connecting automatically, as it's supposed to all of the time but hasn't been lately. Except that now it's back to showing no connection at all - right off wireless, and sometimes insists that there's no wireless, which sometimes is true but mostly not, as everything's working when I check downstairs but still not up here, or it shows as wireless being accessed but at 0 signal power up here. Never seen this before... (Back to demanding the key be typed in again...)
Life for the technologically challenged ain't easy...
Sucks as videos often only play in sections as well and often take forever to go back a page and off the spfreload 10 even when actually loading and running. If this'll hold a connection for a few minutes at any point, I'll get this on. But if I vanish, ya'll know why. And I don't know when it'll stay on long enough to post - very frustrating.
ll I can say us, do not click on anything with spfreload anything on the end of the URL - I never have, as far as I know, but suspect that I only got it because of the crappy connection at this house allowing such things to take over while playing random mixes on Youtube, as it never showed before.
But I don't see my being able to keep up on this stuff, never mind attempting any essays, at this point. It takes me almost all freaking day just to get a comment out sometimes, if I'm trying to find sources I used to be able to easily find, sometimes even quite recently.
I can often continue reading/typing here, on this site, with all this going on, but navigation is often an incredibly time-consuming pain. Especially with no music. And often brain-glitches and other issues, depending on what I'm exposed to outside my room. Been out of the loop for quite a while...
Connection's been up for several minutes, going to try to get this on before it grows any more from waiting, lol.
And it timed out quite quickly, but has been doing that even after the page has appeared; just hope this hasn't doubled...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Deja
Hey, one of the few areas I have any experience in is bitchiness!
Gotta love Halestorm, though!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
From Portland, OR there is a “Bitch” magazine, owner Bitch Media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitch_%28magazine%29
In some situations it may be helpful to think of the word as an acronym for “Being In Total Control, Honey.”
@lotlizard
Lol, love it!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@thanatokephaloides
*Applauds loudly*
Wanna get together on a vaudeville revival with updated music?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
@Deja Just when I thought I
Just when I thought I couldn't love Caitlin more!
Now if only males would be taught these things...how to get it started?
Starts with teaching our kids, grandkids, etc.
Teaching that people deserve respect, from a very young age, and not being so puritanical when it comes to physiology. At least that's a start, imho.
I speak for myself. Others do not speak for me.
What other people say on this site is not my individual concern. As a moderator, what people say is my concern. It must be civil and never personal. What they personally believe, do, or say is up to them as long as they don't get personal and start name calling and swearing at people.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon