(Donna’s on a roll folks): Former DNC chair @donnabrazile: For those who are telling me to shut up, I tell them "go to hell. I'm going to tell my story."

Well that sounded serious.

How is it that of all people, Donna Brazille is the person chosen (by fate or something/SOMEBODY?) to finally bring down the Clintons???

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https://caucus99percent.com/content/donna-brazile-her-own-words

denouncement of Brazile as a Russian dupe

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Former DNC chair @donnabrazile: For those who are telling me to shut up, I tell them "go to hell. I'm going to tell my story."

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in her own special way.
Now, I seem to recall a few site participants here were upset at the Alligator Ed essays about HRC's health problems. They left c99, haven't been back.
Now, the damn Russians had Brazile so concerned about Hillary's failing health that she was ready to replace her with that youngish, vigorous Joe Biden!
Fucking Russians!

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@on the cusp @on the cusp
absolutely clueless as to who’s up to what and why Donna Brazille.

This ‘episode’ of the Twilight Zone just writes itself. A new chapter daily.

That background sound that we all hear? That’s just the sound of Rod Serling’s laughter coming to us from the Nether World.

nether world
— noun

the infernal regions; hell.
the afterworld, or the hereafter.
Origin: First recorded in 1630–40

Dictionary.com

I’m talking about the ‘hereafter’, not ‘hell’.

To which Donna says all her critics ‘can go’.

EDIT: formatting all screwed up!

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@Amanda Matthews She is part of the DNC apparatus, yet is revealing it as a corrupt business entity. Were they contemplating ousting her, and she is positioning herself to call it retaliation? Is she jockeying for some higher(paying) position in the DNC?
I expect her to get called out on feeding debate questions sooner or later. Is she going to say it was compliance with the contract?
I doubt she is sucking up to the liberal voters. If she were, "Russia" would not pass her lips.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@on the cusp @on the cusp She is a loyal clinton lickspittle as evidenced by the special advanced questions: now she's "chair of the ethics and rules committee", while she should be suing on behalf of the party she "loved" she is taking over a committee that just jetisoned every single Bernie supporter. The so called barage of Clinton outrage is just cover for business as usual. Code word "hot sauce", which she used over and over again. She should also be calling for a full investigation into Rich's death: instead, she dines out on it. The other piece of drek in this is her abject dismissal of the primary shennanigans: that was just to get attention and back in the game. What a manipulative phony fraud. A lickspittle for corruption.

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@sorrowforhumans she is the first and only political insider in the country to mention being "concerned" Seth Rich's death might be connected to the DNC.
She went there.
And that helps the Clintons how?
What is the gain for spreading that around, regardless of whether his death was a random crime or planned political assassination.
To me, her admitting to being anxious and pulling those blinds is the real bombshell.
She admits to a virtual money laundering scheme, but does she really believe politics will get you killed?
I can't imagine what is going on.

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@on the cusp
Maybe it keeps her alive. After having gone public with concerns about her safety, maybe she thinks it raises too many questions if she suddenly dies under mysterious circumstances, so it offers her some protection.
I think she should stay out of small aircraft and away from the tops of tall buildings.

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@WoodsDweller but that is the only reason I can think of. She should also avoid taking a swim in the ocean and stepping in front of trains.

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@WoodsDweller
especially since she said she could only find the real DNC agreement on returning from vacation in Martha's Vineyard.
So book is being rushed out too.

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@on the cusp Looks like the PTB are divided over whether or not to dump Hillary. I first noticed this when WaPo, the primary CIA media organ, printed criticisms of Hillary last summer.

This division amongst the powerful seems to be providing opportunities for those who want to run the same operation with someone different at the helm.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@sorrowforhumans she called out all the corruption in her book, see, all better. Now let's go out and elect more and better democrats. Please send money, and don't forget to clap.

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…of Donna Brazile by former Clinton staffers.

John Podesta, Robby Mook, and Huma Abedin - are “surprised” by Brazile’s accusations. Shocked, really. Brazile seems to have succumbed to Russian propaganda, they say.

(Not succumbed to the toxicity of pushing that nonsense on to the American people. No. Brazile succumbed to becoming an agent for Russia.)

We were shocked to learn the news that Donna Brazile actively considered overturning the will of the Democratic voters by attempting to replace Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine as the Democratic Presidential and Vice Presidential nominees.

It is particularly troubling and puzzling that she would seemingly buy into false Russian-fueled propaganda, spread by both the Russians and our opponent, about our candidate’s health.

"We do not recognize the campaign she portrays in the book."

Whoa. That confused me. They think people don't know what they did? I've been away for a few days. Did we have a discussion about this?

Or this:

In the aftermath of Wikileaks’ decision to publish a cache of emails stolen from the DNC’s servers, Donna Brazile says she became increasingly paranoid about both possible Russian efforts to sway the election. Her fears only intensified, she says, after the mysterious shooting of former campaign staffer Seth Rich, who the authorities said was killed during a robbery, though many so-called conspiracy theorists have speculated about a possible Democratic plot to kill Rich for his role in leaking the stash of DNC emails to Wikileaks.

Brazile's anxiety eventually spiraled out of control, to the point where she feared for her own life while serving as interim chairwoman of the DNC.

These former Staffers are weaving very twisted and sinister tale.

Brazile writes that she was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her own life, shutting the blinds to her office window so snipers could not see her and installing surveillance cameras at her home. She wonders whether Russians had placed a listening device in plants in the DNC executive suite.

I can't help but wonder if this whole Donna Brazile thing is just another psyop? Or has she been set up to take the fall?

[Edit typo]

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@Pluto's Republic Her revelations are causing money to flow from somewhere to someone. I can only follow the money, as per Deep Throat's instructions, up to the point the contract between HRC's PAC and the DNC. After that, I can't find the money.
The cover up I am seeing is the gaslighting/Putin Puppet memes.
She knew she would be pilloried, and she also knows a large swath of base liberal voters left the party.
So, who is she working for?

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Hi: @on the cusp

I think the stakes are higher than that.

Maybe it's a cover-up. One thing is for sure: It's alive.

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@Pluto's Republic just wow.

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In a world where this young man's life will be vindicated. But who knows, maybe Seth's story will be told. Stranger things have happened.

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@Pluto's Republic yeah, but I bet that plane would crash on the way there

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Pluto's Republic Spot on! Just a psy op: the rules were a joke as evidenced by the gaming of a U.S. primary and Donna questionable-ethics Brazille is head of "rules and ethics" . . . what a cynical middle finger to half the party. The Clinton outrage if faux, and likely compensated by paid posters everywhere with the pot of money that will NEVER be given to parties for voter's wishes: just doled out to insure corporate goo everywhere. Brazille is doing the Clinton playbook: the corporate slime playbook. Code word "hot sauce".

Expect the secretive meetings of "rules and ethics" to harden party rules about limiting candidates: they don't care if they lose votes: they don't care if they lose members: NGPVAN can take care of any numbers they need to meet or delete.

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@Pluto's Republic Well, that part of it is easy; she's attempting to shift blame for Rich's death onto the Russians, so that if there are "conspiracy theories" about his death, at least they will be "conspiracy theories" that established power likes.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

the reason why Seth Rich is dead. In fact, the more they talk about it, the more questions will inevitably come up. Wasn't there something in politics that said if you're trying to explain things, you're losing?

These people are absolutely sickening.

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@Anja Geitz Yes, that's true. If you're explaining you are losing. In traditional politics anyway. Perhaps in this brave new world as well.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

I remember those days of traditional politics. Seems almost quaint now....

Good point.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal as a Russian plot, and that she was in fear of being killed, that would mean the PTB were satisfied to start a Cold or even Hot war with Russia over unproven election claims, and when that didn't work, let's spring a murder rap on the Russians that we PTB's have known or suspected for, oh, well over a year????
Seth's family should be very interested in the cover up.
What did Donna know and when did she first learn of it?

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@on the cusp Maybe that's why kim dot com wants her to fly to NZ.

I wouldn't trust her, though.

Actually, I'm not sure I trust kim dot com, and I'm sure I don't trust Donna.

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-- Fiver

@Pluto's Republic

Brazile writes that she was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her own life, shutting the blinds to her office window so snipers could not see her and installing surveillance cameras at her home. She wonders whether Russians had placed a listening device in plants in the DNC executive suite.

Well, going by this, she's evidently trying to blame Seth's murder on the Russians, just as with everything else she's maintaining in supporting and building upon the RUSSIA!!! Words of Mass Destruction !!! propaganda in the Serious War On The World line.

And why does she claim that the Russians - or anyone else - would need listening devices when the Clintons/DNC wouldn't ever bother with basic security protocol because that sort of thing, (like those other Silly Rules And Laws For Little People which can be wiped off with, like, a cloth or something and plastered over with endlessly repeated Big Lies,) doesn't apply to Those Who Matter.

That little bit of already proven truth revealed - for which no charges will ever be brought - which she admitted to seems to me to be an obvious attempt to build cred not just for herself but for the 'Must Nuke Russia, Root Of All Of (our own enacted) Evils' propaganda line being pushed now even on the most ludicrous premises.

Now they're down to "the Russians turned the election using some scattered FB/Twitter clickbait ads using a company which does clickbait ads and got Black Americans upset over 'perfectly acceptable routine police murders' of themselves"? If that was the case, the "brought US Black voters to heel - who else can they vote for? Republicans?" Clinton's paymasters would be hiring them.

Hill ran on claims of 'having' Black American voters in Her Pot-Holder pockets - so this line also admits that Her is known to be OK with all that's done to murder, falsely arrest, and brutalize African-Americans (and others) and feels that voters have no business objecting to Her having that appalling attitude as President.

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@Ellen North

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She's still on the Rules Committee of the Party as far as I know. If they really had a problem with her, I'm sure they could get rid of her for all kinds of cause.

How much does it suck that we have to sort of defend her, knowing all she's done?

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@Johnny Q We don't.

We have no idea what her motivations are nor who she's working for. She may be telling the truth about the Clinton campaign, though I notice still nobody's talking about voter registration data being tampered with--are they?--but Election Justice USA, Debbie Lusignan, and many, many other people were telling the truth over a year ago, when it would have counted. At that time, she was handing debate questions to Hillary Clinton ahead of time.

If she's getting out of the DNC, it's not because she's offended by cheating or election rigging. But anyway, she hasn't been thrown out of the DNC, has she? That either means Hill and all her faction know this is kabuki and are playing it out, or they've lost control of the DNC. If *that's* true, the question is: who's taken control away from them?

I guarantee you the answer is not Bernie Sanders, unless he's been bought and sold at a level much deeper than I think.

First we need to find out who Brazile's political sponsors are, then track back to who those people's donors are. So far, it's hard to tell. Warren doesn't have enough clout to be the one pulling the strings.

I'd guess Obama, but if that's so, it's buried deep.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal so thanks for that Donna. Other than that I have no further use for her.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

She hasn't been thrown out of the DNC, has she? That either means Hill and all her faction know this is kabuki and are playing it out, or they've lost control of the DNC. If *that's* true, the question is: who's taken control away from them?

Donna is simply in over her head. She's consolodating and revealing her fears and vulnerabilities. But there is no way she's going to self-sabotage her professional credibility by talking about election shenanigans. She has a book coming out and she's publicizing it. The Russian boogyman has been exposed, so she is rehabing her role in that shameful saga, and getting ahead of the news cycle at the same time. She is telling us she totally believed the Russian meddling story, and she was not involved in the kabuki conspiracy. She's says she feared for her own life, thus establishing her innocence in Seth Rich's murder, just in case.

This story could take off and all the injustices could be investigated and exposed. But it won't. It makes too many look bad — the media, the intelligence community, the Democratic Party bosses, and the Obama administration. Most of all, it creates a national crisis that shows the US as a failed state, where the citizens do not trust their democracy. Everyone is required to live the lie, for now.

That either means Hill and all her faction know this is kabuki and are playing it out, or they've lost control of the DNC. If *that's* true, the question is: who's taken control away from them?

That's what I'm looking at, too. I am certain they know the Russia story is manufactured. I believe they concocted it themselves. Blaming Russia is the post-Ukraine, Neocon narrative that also happens to be convenient for the Democrats. The Party and the Intelligence Agencies take turns confirming it to fix the propaganda narrative in people's minds.

We are the ones who took Party control away from them. They know they lost it and there's nothing they can do. The same thing is going on in the Republican Party. They lost control, too.

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@Pluto's Republic You're right about a lot of things, but I don't think we've taken control of the DNC. The closest we ever came was Dean (before he became a pod person like so many others).

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

I don't think even they believe that.

We are not cattle cars of non-compliant voters attached to the back of their Democratic train, like so much dead weight they have to pull around.

We are a wall built across their track. What's worse, we are the talent of the nation, which is unequally distributed among us. Coincidence, perhaps. We make a compelling mockery out of them, as we block their path, and the nation laughs with us.

This is why they are restlessly looking for a voters block to convert. First it was blue collar workers, then they went after the mid-level white collar voters, but both those voters blocks had been kicked to the curb by the Party much too recently to forget. Then they considered the disappointed Trump voters. Yeah, that was the ticket…. for about six weeks, until they wised up and moved on. Next, it was the non-voters block, whom they thought they could scare into voting. After all, Hillary was gone and they still had the Trump stick to hit them over the head with. But the Party platform still sucks if you' want even the most basic human rights, so that didn't work. After eight years of Obama, life truly sucks for Millennials, so don't even bother asking them. The Party still has the Black vote, right? Not really, not anymore. It got used up. The Independent voters block is low on enthusiasm these days. If they must vote, those leaning Republican, will vote for the real thing. If they lean Democratic, they recall that the last time they voted at their polling place, the vote was rigged. By the Democrats. And, somehow Hillary lost the women's vote, which was a "sure thing," so who are you going to call now?

They know what they need in order to win — and it is not the Progressive vote nor is it the Liberal vote. To win elections, the Democratic Party needs the all American, tried and true, labor-loving, vintage votes of the Authentic Left. These are the votes that have rescued the People from dark times, repeatedly, for the past century and a half. They need the Bernie votes, the Socialist votes, and the all-or-nothing anti-war votes. That's the Left. It's probably the most potent force of untapped political energy in the nation. We saw it's front edge roaring in while Bernie was introducing himself to the nation, state by state. Then, it instantly melted away from the Democratic Party the day he withdrew from the race.

And one more thing: The Democratic Party concocted, along with their private Ukrainian IT firm, the most rabid anti-Russian false flag this nation has ever seen — for the explicit purpose of destroying the people's faith in the Democratic process. All to mitigate Hillary Clinton's election loss. It sent the nation of voters into a depressed state of inaction.

The ONLY voters block with the raw intellectual talent to escape that trap was the American Left. The Democratic Party can win their votes when they demonstrate enlightened values that directly benefit the American people — values that confer upon them the same implied human rights that were unanimously ratified at the UN in 1948. This is a direct inheritance that belongs to all American citizens. It was handed down by the Americans who came before, and who painstakingly built this civilization with future Americans in mind. This country was never meant to be a playground of natural resources and commercial opportunity for multinational corporations to privately own, asset strip, and monetize for their personal gain, along with subsidy bonuses paid for by the people — leaving Americans with lesser means impoverished by the theft of the inheritance that was meant for them. With it, they could purchase their own Liberty (health, education, nutrition, shelter) allowing them to grow into strong adults, empowered to make their own contributions to civilization.

Any Political Party that deserves your vote will right that wrong, once and for all. Don't let people throw their votes away and settle for a gay wedding cake. This just prolongs the and deepens the agony of social injustice for everyone.

That's what I saw. It's a potent force still waiting out there to be beckoned again. When the Party gets its vision for the future right, the Left will roar into existence. Meanwhile, it's stacked up on that wall blocking the train tracks.

[Edits galore]

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Anyone else remember the Sane Progressive and others on this?

https://www.activistpost.com/2017/01/coup-homeland-security-takeover-us-...

This Is A Coup: The Homeland Security Takeover Of US Elections
TOPICS: DHS Elections Jon Rappoport White House

January 8, 2017

... It was announced on the same day a declassified U.S. intelligence report said Russian President Vladimir Putin ‘ordered’ an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election.”

[Also known as: “we needed an excuse, a fake cover story for our takeover, and Russia is it.”]

“Such a change [in who controls the US election process] does not require presidential action [or Congressional approval], and only requires the secretary [of DHS] to first consult with the assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism.”

[Also known as: “this is a coup by the White House.”]

“Johnson said election infrastructure included storage facilities, polling places and vote tabulation locations, plus technology involved in the process, including voter registration databases, voting machines and other systems used to manage the election process and report and display results.”

[Also known as: “We’re taking over every significant aspect of the national election process.”]

“The designation [of US elections as critical infrastructure] allows for information to be withheld from the public when state, local and private partners meet to discuss election infrastructure security — potentially injecting secrecy into an election process that’s traditionally and expressly a transparent process. U.S. officials say such closed door conversations allow for frank discussion that would prevent bad actors from learning about vulnerabilities. DHS would also be able to grant security clearances when appropriate and provide more detailed threat information to states.”

[Also known as: “we can intercede in the election process and determine its outcome without any need to pretend we’re being transparent; only people we approve will know the details of how we run elections; secrecy works.”] ...

...And of course, with this awesome new power, the DHS could intercede, behind the scenes, in the voting process and rig elections. ...

...The timeline is clear. One: Hillary will surely win the election. Two: Trump won the election. Three: Trump won because Russia “hacked the election” in his favor. Four: We must protect our national election process from foreign hacking. Five: Homeland Security must put itself in charge of national elections.

Stay tuned.

A coup just occurred.

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Dunno about this site which looks utterly nutty, which might be why I could eventually find this - having a hard time finding the stories linking to the Wikileaks Clinton campaign (Podesta?) email which used to be all over and were posted on this site previously, and a lot of this article doesn't copy/paste but:

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2017/05/13/bombshell-clinton-insiders-revea...

BOMBSHELL: Clinton Insiders Reveal ‘Blame Russia’ Plan Hatched ‘Within 24 Hours’ of Election Loss
Posted on May 13, 2017 by Jack Burns

...Wikileaks uploaded a picture from a page of Allen’s new book which destroys the Russian hacking narrative immediately. Wikileaks tweeted, “New book by ‘Shattered’ by Clinton insiders reveals that “blame Russia” plan was hatched “within twenty-four hours” of the election loss.” ...

...The page uploaded by Wikileaks explains how the Clinton spin machine was set in motion in the minutes following her loss to Trump. Allegedly, John Podesta (Clinton’s campaign manager), collaborated with Robby Mook (fellow member of the Clinton campaign) to make the argument the election was rigged by the Russians — an argument which was put forward when it was revealed in early 2016 the Democratic National Committee’s emails had been hacked.

Building on that narrative, the Clinton camp reportedly put out the notion to members of the media the election was anything but fair. The suggestion was apparently made that “Russian hacking was the centerpiece of the argument.” ...

But, yeah, the Clinton campaign did invent the 'Russia hacked the election for Trump' which began the ensuing line of 'ever-changing RUSSIA!!! story' lunacy.

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@Ellen North

What follows is unpublished, but sourced. Since it was written, forensics suggest my timeline matches the download of the emails from the DNC server to a thumbdrive:

There remained many unanswered questions about the sequence of events which led to the secrets of the DNC being laid bare. The DNC said it originally hired CrowdStrike in late April last year, after discovering suspicious activity on their computer system. However, according to internal emails, CrowdStrike had already been working for the DNC since the beginning of April. CrowdStrike was seeking evidence on the DNC server that would prove Bernie Sanders' campaign staffers had gained unauthorized access to its voter database.

The five-week investigation focusing on potential hacking by the Sanders campaign staffers finally ended on April 29, 2016. Meanwhile, the FBI had allegedly been warning the DNC about a potential breach since the beginning of 2016.

"When we discovered the intrusion, we treated this like the serious incident it is and reached out to CrowdStrike immediately,' said Debbie Wasserman Schultz in a statement. 'Our team moved as quickly as possible to kick out the intruders and secure our network.'

No, they didn't. They didn't move quickly at all. It wasn't until May 5th that CrowdStrike hooked up monitoring software to the DNC system. According to Alperovitch, it 'lit up,' indicating a breach. CrowdStrike rapidly concluded that the culprit was Russia, based on the hacking techniques and the location of the server that was downloading the data.

CrowdStrike finally booted the hackers out of the system on June 10, 2016. On June 14, the DNC announced publicly that it had been hacked. Crowdstrike released an accompanying report that tied the breach to the Russian government. From this point forward, no US intelligence agency would ever gain access to the DNC server, regardless of the alleged threat to national security. CrowdStrike controlled the forensics and analysis exclusively, and would inform the FBI, CIA, NSA, and other interested parties what had occurred and who was responsible, based on CrowdStrike's own conclusions.

Dmitri Alperovitch, CrowdStrike's co-founder, is adept at self promotion. Within weeks, CrowdStrike's report accusing the Russians in the DNC emails hack was featured in Foreign Policy Magazine, The Guardian, and on NBC News. In an interview with the Washington Post to bring attention to the report. Alperovitch claimed "that [these hackers] could be tracking and helping the Russian military kill Ukrainian army personnel in eastern Ukraine and also intervening in the US election. It is quite chilling," he said.

CrowdStrike's claims that the Kremlin had directed the attack on the DNC server was based on easily-disputed circumstantial evidence. No supporting forensic evidence has ever been disclosed in US intelligence statements or reports. In January 2017, following Hillary's November election loss, Deep State actors in the Intelligence community released a report stating that the Presidential election had been "hacked" by the Russians. No evidence accompanied it, such as IP addresses or code. This activated a slow burn of skepticism across the security industry.

This is an example of that skepticism.

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Thanks! My searches suck and after a varying amount of scrolling I tend to eventually lose the energy to continue, so all I could find wasn't very good. I actually hadn't even seen the articles you provided and they were appreciated. So much BS flying around, and almost everything I see is freaking propaganda promotion now!

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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@Not Henry Kissinger
O looks irritated and a little bitty pissed, but Her looks like she's about to put a hex on someone or trying to kill them with her thoughts.

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@Deja you and me.

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"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott

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@Steven D

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@Steven D
still breathing. Damn 99% bastids...

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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.

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In the mind-numbing absence of anything of consequence ever being discussed in the media, I have acquired a perverse pleasure in watching this latest battle between the same political operatives who fucked us all in the ass, now fuck each other in the ass.

Maybe we should all send them a case of Vaseline?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz No.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz No vaseline for them. They can do without.

I didn't want to go into detail for, well, obvious reasons.

Trying to control my swear-like-a-sailor mouth.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Trying to control my swear-like-a-sailor mouth

When talking about this bunch. I say let 'er rip.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Not even with a little sand for thickener?

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Anja Geitz

Why should they get any? They never give us any before they fuck us in the ass.

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I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.

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@Socialprogressive Well, maybe I shouldn't have worried about my swear-like-a-sailor mouth. LOL!

Thanks to social progressive for saying what I was thinking. Smile

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Socialprogressive

Of Krazy Glue instead?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz
Perfucked! If I'd ever wondered why I admired your commentary so much, that alone would indicate why.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Anja Geitz
I found a link to this questionable story on an even more questionable 'Trump iz Gawd' site. It claims Killary and John are going to turn themselves in tomorrow. It's been up for hours.

A girl can hope, and it might explain Donna and Warren's sudden truth telling, as stated in one of the comments.

Judge for yourselves:

http://www.nnettle.com/news/3087-tony-podesta-arrested-arrest-warrants-issued-for-hillary-clinton-john-podesta

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@Deja
to distract by creating a phoney crisis involving electioneering to cloud the indictment on more disgusting charges.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@Deja

Voluntarily "turning herself in". If she were to ever go down, it would literally be kicking and screaming. And boy, would I buy tickets to see that.

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So at least some of the oligarchs must be in favor of her saying this.

Compare how her story is being treated versus how OWS or Standing Rock was treated.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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now. (Donna, that is)

Klein is a former Editor-In-Chief of The New York Times Magazine, who's most recently written books that 'some say' verge on conspiracy theory--about 'O' and 'The Grifters.'

Anyhoo, even if his claim is accurate, there's no way to know but what the remark is Kabuki on O's part (for some reason).

Mollie

The "Grand Bargain" isn't dead--it's being implemented incrementally through piecemeal legislation. Please read the 2010 Bowles-Simpson proposal, "The Moment Of Truth."

"The standard of living of the average American has to decline. I don't think you can escape that."
--Paul Volcker, The New York Times, October 18, 1979, Page 1.

“If we can divide the electorate this way, we can have them expending their energies fighting amongst themselves, over issues that for us, have no meaning whatsoever."
--USA Bankers Magazine, August 25, 1924

"Every time I lose a dog, he takes a piece of my heart. Every new dog gifts me with a piece of his. Someday, my heart will be total dog, and maybe then I will be just as generous, loving, and forgiving."
--Author Unknown

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

@Unabashed Liberal Hopefully for herself, the book deal was sweet. I can see where the book will be very popular in right wing book clubs.

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@MrWebster
Sorry, couldn't resist. Wink

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@MrWebster I'm really not sure of this.

Look, compare the media's reaction to this to the media's reaction to any of a number of books about the Bush election fraud. Compare their reaction to this to their reaction to Mike Lofgren's book.

This narrative is being pushed. The fact that it has some truth in it notwithstanding, somebody wants this fight to happen, or it wouldn't be such a spectacle. We don't have the kind of media where things become spectacles because of their intrinsic importance to the news. Things become spectacles because it serves some powerful person's interests.

So either this is all kabuki, or there's a real quarrel going on up there in amongst the powers-that-be, and Donna is being backed by one faction or another. No way is she acting on her own. People acting on their own either get little coverage for their revelations, or they go to Wikileaks.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

This narrative is being pushed.

Pass the popcorn...the knives are long and they are sharp and aimed at HER. Let the bloodletting commence.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Interesting to learn when she started the book or conceived of it, and when she started shopping it around. The publisher is French based. No American publisher? I would bet she picked an off shore publisher to keep it secret as it seems the Clinton camp was caught totally unawares. I would have thought some demonization of Brazile before this to warm up the wolves.

I don't think there is any conspiracies around the book. I take it at face value that by her reports she was treated like a piece of garbage by the Hillary campaign while DWS treated the Hillary controlled DNC like her personal unlimited spending account and was then hired by the Clinton campaign. Maybe Brazile realized that all she would ever be is token low paid mouth piece and decided to ensure her financial future.

Most of the damage to Hillary and her lackies and the DNC will come from Brazile's accounts of her treatment as a "slave" and accusations of issues around race, gender, and age by the campaign. Looks like she will blow away the pretensions the party has around race and gender.

From what little there is about the Clinton staffers, it does seem to vindicate what Thomas Frank has describe about the new yuppie democrats controlling the party.

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It's very clear -- either you agree with Hillary, or you're working for the Russians. It's one or the other, so make up your minds!

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native

@native And she is being accused of being a Russian patsy.

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@MrWebster
Check under the sofa -- they're everywhere!

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native

Just fun speculation. They will remain non-committal and neutral. And in private skewer Hillary and her staff for their treatment of Brazile.

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