Establishment Democrats trying to cling to power through fear
Politico and The Hill are good weather vanes for the mood and spin of corporate Democrats.
For example, when Bernie introduced Medicare For All, Politico said this:
Did Democrats jump the gun with single-payer splash?
There's second-guessing inside the party about Bernie Sanders' timing as Republicans take aim again at Obamacare.
The Hill said this:
Ex-Obama spokesman 'not sure' about Sanders healthcare debate
It turns out they were just Concern Trolls.
That was a good example for the Corporate Democrats' strategy to retain power.
In August, the small-but-powerful remnant of big-money moderation in the Democratic Party, shaken but not stirred by Hillary Clinton’s defeat in 2016, officially declared war on the party’s left-leaning rank-and-file. Rising from the ashes of the defunct Democratic Leadership Council, the “centrist” movement that took over the Democratic Party after its three straight presidential defeats in the 1980s—and erased the last vestiges of New Deal liberalism from American political discourse in the name of winning elections—came a “new” effort called New Democracy, touted as a vehicle for “rethinking” the party’s message after its history-making loss to Donald Trump. But this grand reassessment, led by DLC co-founder Will Marshall and his K Street band of brothers, was merely a reassertion of the wealth-first economics, go-slow social progressivism, and hawkish foreign policy peddled by white Democratic power-brokers and Clintonian neoliberals for three decades now.
...the old organs of the Washington establishment still take these people seriously, and otherwise intelligent Democrats still have a strange Pavlovian response to the dire warnings they issue, like clockwork, every four years: Embracing liberalism will always and forever end in defeat
This mantra - that a sudden shift to the left will end in doom - has many examples, but it's best on display here.
Are Democrats Headed for a McGovern Redux?
As Trump continues his Nixonian campaign of white cultural-grievance politics, Democrats appear consumed by the same squabbles that destroyed them in 1972.
There are some parallels between 1972 and today, but then so is any and every election.
Still this same tired metaphor was used against Jesse Jackson in 1988, Howard Dean in 2004, Barack Obama in 2008, and Sanders in 2016.
Just like every 3rd party candidate is Nader in 2000.
The goal of these disinformation campaigns has always been the same: to frighten the left into falling in line with the moneyed masters of the party. And at a moment when the party is finally abandoning the New Democratic formula—suck up to big business and the military-industrial complex, pander to white supremacy, and win!—fear-mongering is the only thin reed of hope the “moderates” have to retain their supremacy in the party.
Just ignore the fact that Third-Way Dems consistently lose.
The old New Democrats know perfectly well that the chances of Trump winning reelection in 2020 are approximately as good as the Democratic nomination going to Kanye West, with Kim Kardashian as his running mate. They know there’s no valid analogy to be drawn between Nixon and Trump, or between McGovern and the leading lights of the contemporary left, or between 1972 and the likely political climate of 2020. That’s why they’re scare-mongering again—because they are scared. Not of the depredations of the Trump presidency so much as the near-certainty that the next Democratic nominee will run on single-payer health care, progressive taxation, queer rights and abortion rights, and an anti-imperialist foreign policy. And they know the next Democratic nominee will almost certainly be the next president—and will chase them out of the party leadership once and for all.
The only thing that can prevent the Democratic left from ascending to power in 2020 is paying heed to the myth of McGovernism.
Another spin is that Democratic voters are becoming "extreme" in their leftist values. This was on display with the recent Pew study.
Every article about this survey shows that liberals are as extreme as conservatives.
On some issues, like immigration and race, Democrats are far outside of historical norms. Coincidently, these are also identity politics issues.
However, on the question of should the government doing more to help the needy, it's not a "both sides do it" question. It's Republicans that are the extremists.
Also, ironically, Pew released this survey the very next day, but it got mostly ignored.
Americans deepest in poverty lost more ground in 2016
So who's the extremists on this issue?
Comments
I suggested that we are being fear-entrained
in another essay. That is to me how it smells now. And may drive different rhythms farther apart.
Don't worry about D or R or Indy. Convince people to go Churchill or Roosevelt and ignore fear-mongering rhetoric. I have other issues and fear is unhelpful, a drag anchor.
Namaste.
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McGovern Redux?
Politico sure can write some B.S. When McGovern ran, the issue was the Vietnam war. Politico needs to read this article to get its head straight. The title is "Why Bernie Sanders is not George McGovern". One tidbit:
I fell twice tonight
And I was head-preparing an essay about my difficulties. For y'all.
That essay will get written, eventually. There were a few more in my head. All arrested now by head bangs. Maybe now that I have confessed I can sleep again. I missed that action/inaction for three days, still recovering. I think by now I have seen all the overnight hours tick by.
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Riverlover, CONCUSSION????????
It's great that you can post this, but how long ago did you start?
Riverlover, DON'T GO TO SLEEP PLEASE :(
Hello?
Anyone? Please reply!
How can we help you?
Is there anything any of us can do for you or do you have friends or family near bye?mid love to help if I'm able, so please let me know if I can.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
TY to all above. I have a tear running down my nose.
All is as good as it gets here. No worries.
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@karl pearson thank you, Karl. The 1972
This irrational fear needs extinguished .
On Bill! It not the patients or the government who are in charge
of their medical care, it's the damn insurance companies. Before the ACA did away with preexisting conditios, people paid their insurance premiums for up to decades and then when they got a serious health problem, insurance companies scrolled through their history and if they had pimples, but didn't tell them that, they would say that they wouldn't pay for their treatment. This is insurance companies interfering with patient's health care.
As for Bernie saying that if government can't negotiate with pharmaceutical companies for prices that we should take over them. Why not? The taxpayers with government's help, funds many of the researches they do. This is the same principle of our taxes paying our military to invade countries to make it safe so that corporations can steal their resources. Then we have to buy those products from those corporations and they make all the money.
Cassidy has forgotten the first rule that doctors swear to..."first do no harm."
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Anyone w/riverlover's contact info PLEASE READ she needs help
At least I think she does. ^^^^^ Look at her last post, please!
Hello? HELLOOOOO? riverlover needs us! HELLOOO? fucking anyone?
Can anyone with her contact info at least try?
And letting me know you're actually doing it would be great too.
Doesn't have to be public, or include any personal info.
Just let me know, would ya? Please?
JtC might have her contact information
I have sent him a message.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Me too, 2x :( but thanks 4 replying n/t
(++)
good move.
Would riverlover be in such trouble if we had healthcare for all in this country?
kind of striking to have this emergency come up on a thread about MFA
We needed universal health care like ten years ago
For too many it is already too late. Any country that would rather kill people "over there" than help its own people at home deserves to be God-damned (hat tip to Rev. Jeremiah Wright).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
RL has great health care. She has told us so.
She probably just logged off. She did post at 1:28 am. She is in NY. I just checked FB. Her computer is logged on, which likely means she is around someplace too.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
glad to hear that is true.
thinga are tough enough when the body goes wrong.
to be forced into medical bankruptcy is a horror.
happens here every day.
should never happen here.
" I'm a physician- I can read... "
then read this.
The part of Mitt Romney will now be played by Joe Biden.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNUXVjY69zk]
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
They can say what they want. We know
better and we’ve had to learn the hard way, by watching those who we were supposed to be able to trust cheat, lie, and disenfranchise us while pointing their fingers and demanding our money and our support. They are corrupt and crazy.
But things are changing:
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
anyone but little bobby zimmerman
question- What is this stuff. ooohhh.
answer. It is Nobel - prize winning poetry, you ignorant schmuck. aaarrrggh.
yes, I can do better.
not a great feat.
por ejemplo-
I went down to the fortune lady, see how my future lay.
She took a look in her magic mirror,said- Son, you could be dead today.
Your eye is crossed,and the "T" has been dotted. You're backward as a boy can be.
I don't want your money, just go out that door. You'd better stay away from me.
-Look out, lady. Was there something I did?
Why do you berate me? Can't you see I'm a kid who knows no better.
etc. bob dylan . no, no.
You’re more than welcome to your opinion. And I will most
definitely stick to mine. YES little Robbie Zimmerman.
EDIT I made the word ‘definirely’ disappear when I posted. I seem to be having some hand-eye-internet-iPhone-coordination problems lately.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
all in fun.
Ok
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Then again,t there is the example of FDR for leftists winning...
Or even LBJ.
Thanks for this
I always had a feeling the RNC faxed out talking points to every republican think tank and elected official for the unified message of the day. I thought we on the left didn't have that, but after the last election and what you wrote above I can see where TOP gets it's marching orders from.
Daily Kos
We don't. See below:
Daily Kos isn't "we on the left". It's full-blown Third Way GOP Lite. Just like their oh-so-beloved Hillary Clinton.
And you're right about where DK gets its marching orders from.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Deceiving front page and diaries.
But even the front page content breaks down after awhile. A lot of the diaries are following themes of Clinton's campaign, and current upgrades. The Russian conspiracy basically never leaves the front page and the other diaries are "outrage signalling" at the bad things Trump is up to. I cant't remember much in the way of single payer support or focus. Nor do elected democrats get much in the way of critique when for example, most voted for Trump's defense spending bill. Booker got some grief over his vote on drug importation, but then many followed up with defenses of him.
Their funding as far as I can tell right now goes toward moderate/establishment democrats rather than progressives.
But given the rabid support for Clinton on the site, we are not looking at progressives. In fact, dismissing any issues of cheating during the primaries, one would conclude that given Hillary's victories, the base of the democratic party is gop-lite. Although on TOP there was a concerted effort to rebrand Hillary and Kaine as progressives.
MSM talking point of the day
"I need help. Everyone makes mistakes".
Harvey Weinstein.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Heh.
More politico... this time from the left.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
From our screens......
..... to Ceiling Cat's tufted ears:
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides