Who has Trump's back now?
Trump is running out of allies.
Stephen K. Bannon, the embattled chief strategist who helped President Trump win the 2016 election but clashed for months with other senior West Wing advisers, is leaving his post, a White House spokeswoman announced Friday.
“White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and Steve Bannon have mutually agreed today would be Steve’s last day,” the White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, said in a statement. “We are grateful for his service and wish him the best.”
Breitbart didn't take it well.
— Joel B. Pollak (@joelpollak) August 18, 2017
Joel is a Breitbart editor. They're going thermonuclear, I'm told. Story tk on Axios. https://t.co/92z4nrZnbT
— Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) August 18, 2017
Democrats might be happy about this, because losing Bannon basically cuts off Trump from his grassroots, but Bannon was a leading voice in the White House against war and globalism.
This comes just two days after the business councils collapsed.
Only a day after President Donald Trump labeled as “grandstanders” the growing number of CEOs quitting his business council to protest his response to a white-supremacist rally that turned violent, the president abolished the advisory groups rather than put pressure on executives to stay.“Thank you all!” Trump tweeted Wednesday afternoon.
His announcement came within an hour of reports that one of the groups -- a forum of top finance and business executives -- was planning to disband. It appeared to be an effort by Trump to get ahead of the business leaders who were abandoning him a day after he equated neo-Nazis to counter-protesters at a New York City press conference.It’s a stunning rebuke for the first CEO president, who pitched himself as a savvy businessman who would slash taxes and regulations to unleash growth by U.S. companies.
I don't know who is actually in Trump's corner anymore, outside of his family.
Trump is extremely politically vulnerable now.
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Bannon was reportedly lobbying for a top rate tax increase.
That sort of Socialistic thinking will get you fired from a Republican Administration toot sweet.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Yes Bannon was pushing for Bernie type taxes (also a trade war)
Now Trump is just surrounded by Wall Street type neo-libs (Cohn, Kushner, Mnuchin, Ivanka ...), so basically a Hillary style cabinet. (The 'right' is whining that it is mostly a Democrat West Wing now.)
(I might argue that Trump may still be less warlike than HRC, while they're probably about the same in regards to "super predators" and such, So maybe in Trump we got the 'lesser' evil, but a greater fool.)
Agree, NHK--Bannon's departure will likely
(more immediately) setup the opportunity for a bipartisan 'Grand Bargain' to begin the dismantling of Social Security per Bowles-Simpson's proposal.
Another thing I'm watching--Whitehouse and Schatz have a proposal for a carbon tax. That makes me nervous since some corporatist Dems (and libertarians) have advocated for doing away with the payroll tax, in order to fund Social Security--replacing the funding with a carbon tax. This, in turn, disassociates wages from monthly benefits.
I haven't read their specific legislation, so I don't know if they have included it in their proposal. But, I read a piece (in favor of their legislation) that said that the proposal is so sweeping, there should be enough funding to accomplish this, if so desired. Sounds like it might be a 'Camel's nose under the tent' scenario. Supposedly, they are working with the Administration behind the scenes to include this proposal as an offset to an infrastructure bill. Or, they were--before all heck broke loose last weekend.
BTW, Al From, a co-founder of the DLC, proposed this idea on Washington Journal several years ago. I posted the video clip at the time. If I can find it, I'll repost it.
Also, I'm not sure if this reform (replacing the payroll tax with a carbon tax) would affect current Social Security beneficiaries, but, had From's carbon tax idea been adopted, some economists projected that it would eventually flat-line the monthly SS benefit.
Of course, some advocates for this carbon tax funding of Social Security, believe that Social Security would lose much of its support, since supposedly, individuals would not feel the same direct connection, or 'entitlement,' to it. In turn, this 'reform' would make it easier to greatly scale back the benefit, or kill the program entirely.
IMO, it's hard to find a more zealous fiscal hawk than Mike Pence. And, we already know how well Ryan and Pelosi get along--they are the reason that two 'first-dollar' Medigap Insurance Plans sunset in 2020. (They negotiated this cut in the 2015 so-called 'Doc Fix' legislation.)
I'm 'guessing' that the Dem Leadership is enthralled, since they've already said that they would not consider 'tax reform'--if it raised the deficit. IOW, they're saying that there must be entitlement cuts--or, 'spending offsets'--to balance proposed cuts to tax rates.
Color me disgusted!
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
@Not Henry Kissinger
Lol, was it socialistic, or fending off the pitchforks for a little longer, thinking? Bannon's billionaire, whose name I cannot recall at the moment, might be just a little smarter than some of the other billionaire's running the show.
Maybe I missed something, (I do that a lot, lol,) but I didn't see anything mentioned about cutting taxes for lower income people, just suggesting a higher top rate over 5 million annual income? I take this as a Battle Of The Billionaires/Corporate Interests, myself, but, then again, I speak as One Who Knows Nothing But Keeps Her 'Speculators' Handy.
Edit: remembered the name just after pressing post, of course. Came across this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/6aasdv/robert_mercer_b...
Racists/psychopathic individuals tend to hang together, often in the hope of hanging the rest of us, once strategically separated...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I never thought I would feel sorry for Trump
and I don't, but if this means more government as usual it just might be bad news.
W was just a stupid version of Clinton's anti worker, anti poc (but call it justice) government. Obama was nothing but Bush's surveillance state, bankster run, perpetual war, betrayal on all counts government. Now Trump is switching from "he's crazy, he does nothing sanely" to "now things are getting more sensible" neoconservatism. Personally, if I have to chose I'll take an incompetent racist to a "well run" fascist dystopia The Nazis tried that - didn't work out well. Who thinks the neocons will do much better?
On to Biden since 1973
Just in time for President Pence
Everyday I become more and more convinced Trump is a stalking horse.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
I agree with that....
The more crazies that leave, the closer we all get to the edge.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
And keep an eye on where the crazies go.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
I'm beginning to think
that the only one ;left who doesn't think that is Trump, and maybe even him.
On to Biden since 1973
Bannon's Meth House
I can't say how credible this story is, but it appears to be legit:
Here you go:
http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/steve-bannons-florida-house-meth-and-porn
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
This is a bad reality TV show.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Kinda sad
I knew whether
Trump or Clinton we'd get drives for impeachment, more belligerence abroad, and civil strife at home. In sum, nothing good for America.
But with his refusal to immediately condemn Nazis he really has shown that he's dangerous beyond all tolerance and has to go.
The dangers of a Pres Pence are also severe, and it's time to think ahead to the specifics of that. I don't see trump being around much longer.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
I hope he sticks around for another 6-12 months
Because President Pence scares me more than Trump.
At least with Trump little will get done.
Agree
Keep him in there as long as possible. He's a wrench in the gears of government. If they pass no laws for 4 years I'd consider it moving forward.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
That would be the best deal for the people since???
Clinton got elected?
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
An essay on why?
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
I think we need him for at least another year
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I think the drive is 'immediate' for impeachment.
And, CNN has a reporter who just spoke to Bannon this afternoon--the most interesting takeaway from the interview is that Bannon says he'll be fighting for DT and the Base that elected him. He intends to spend his time attacking the MSM, antagonistic Republican lawmakers, Republican leaders, Democrats, and all 'internationalists/globalists.'
According to The Weekly Standard, the 'fight' in the White House, is lost. See below.
I hadn't seen this article, when I earlier mentioned that this would probably set up an opening for a 'Grand Bargain.' But, this bit of news only reinforces this idea (for me).
If folks wonder what a Pence presidency might bring--you need to look no further than his 'reform' of Medicaid in Indiana. What's left of it, that is. It is one of the most punitive versions of Medicaid out there.
IOW, the 'Deep State' won.
I'm putting my money on DT's resignation--possibly before the midterms. I've never believed that he'd stick around for impeachment proceedings. Guess time will tell.
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Why would you want Trump gone?
He's essentially toothless and becoming more and more isolated and less effective by the day. Why would you want a Republican president who could aggressively push the Republican agenda forward instead of do-nothing Trump?
Because he is pro-nazi?
We're in deep shit everywhich way since the Dems ran who they did. Trump is now tearing the bare minimum thread of civility. Anyway it doesn't matter what any of us want: he's gone.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Pence doesn't use the crazy words and antics
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
I know that
But it doesn't matter from here what is better or worse: he's gone.
As to the right having power, their financiers are the Dems financiers and the die is cast: we're in the middle of a rightist takeover and have been for at least twenty years.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Heh
CNBC report drowned out by stockbrokers cheering Bannon’s dismissal
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. - Friedrich Nietzsche -
That is bad news
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
An alternative title for this Essay
..... courtesy of the rock band Journey:
[video:https://youtu.be/9meo3vazXcw]
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Oh well...
Back to drinking, screwing, and smoking over at the bright Bart lounge. That and other favorite past times of writers, media workers and lounge lizards. Heh! This debt serf almost envious of Bannon's new found freedom.
Pence is creeping closer and closer.
The deep state has felled another enemy. Bannon was a crazy racist and no friend of business or the deep state, but I prefer him there to not.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Pence is being very careful
not to be noticed. Heavy weather ahead if Congress tries to impeach Trump. Better for Pence to ride out the storm below decks. A perfectly proper VP is he.
native
And the relative "stability" he'll provide
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
Absolutely. He'd have the full support
of the Pentagon, the MIC, and the "national security" establishment. Trump has none of that.
native
Agree, lizzyh7. The MSM is ecstatic
about the prospect of a Pence presidency. And, 'talking heads' at CNN are about to bust a gut--purely ecstatic that 'moderates' like Ryan and McConnell may be ascendant now.
(Now, they'll be able to work hand and glove with Mulvaney on tax cuts, etc.)
As I've listened over the past couple of hours, I'm hearing some concern creeping into what was at first exclamations of pure joy and celebration. IOW, the so-called 'analysts' are now concerned about just what Bannon 'unbridled' might mean.
Mollie
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
And well they should be concerned.
Bannon's political outlook fairly accurately represents the Red Sea of activist Deplorables who got Trump elected in the first place. Bannon's enemies -- Kushner, Kelly, McMaster for example -- do not really represent this constituency. Trump's "base" seems relatively quiescent at the moment, but I think Bannon could cause the Administration a lot of trouble if he chose to do so.
native
Trump Admin tips its hand
“During the Cuba missile crisis we stood behind JFK. This is analogous to the Cuba missile crisis. We need to come together.”
- Sebastian Gorka, today
Gorka is right,
but "coming together" is something Trump never really learned how to do very well.
native
Well yes, he does, often, prematurely ejaculate. n/t
Trump is a disaster, but incompetent.
He may never actually see a bill passed w/his sig on it. Pence would be competent disaster.
Which is worse? Don't know.
But sadly Trumps cabinet is already wreaking havoc. See, Pruitt at what used to be the EPA.
Dear Dems: You lost the WH, Senate, House, dozens of governors, state level SOS and AG and about 1,000 state legislative seats. Maybe...you're doing something wrong.
Two words: Christian Dominionist.
Trump didn't really want to change anything, he just wanted his name on the door and the keys to the executive washroom. Pence wants God's Empire On Earth (and his appointment as His representative/enforcer) People have felt that Trump gave them a license to act out their racist. fascist fantasies, and I don't mean to underappreciate that, but Christian dominionists want death and suffering on a global scale - to everyone but them. There is no comparison.
On to Biden since 1973
So if Trump goes
Who's next? A fundie RWNJ who will prob your vagina as well as impose global forever war and austerity? Great news folks! Better vote for the mad bomber or whoever the also batshit crazy Demorats throw in your face and hope that we make it to the next election. lol. A classic the lady or the tigar scenario. Say where is the Demorat obstruction to this insanity? Oh yeah it's the alt. left's fault and let that be a lesson to you lefties to vote for whatever manic killer we tell you is moderate.
@shaharazade
Just wondering if there's still commonly the assumption made that votes will count/be accurately counted next (s)election, under 'National Security' Top Secret cover of Homeland Security's takeover of all electoral infrastructure, including voter registration, with information/discussion available to interested private parties which may be withheld from the American public?
As well as that there is no choice but to vote for one evil or another of the Two-Faced Corporate Party?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Libertarian take