(It just gets weirder): Arrested DNC Staffer Awan Retains Long-Time Clinton Associate For Legal Help

Arrested DNC Staffer Awan Retains Long-Time Clinton Associate For Legal Help

Chris Gowen, a founding partner at Gowen, Rhoades, Winograd and Silva, apparently did a little bit of everything for the Clintons over the course of multiple years including working in the Clinton White House, helping President Bill Clinton write his book, "My Life", and serving on Hillary's 2008 presidential campaign. Per Gowen's bio:

Mr. Gowen left the Public Defender’s office to work for former President William Jefferson Clinton and then-Senator Hillary Clinton. Chris was a fact checker for President Clinton’s memoir, My Life. He also served as a traveling aid for President Clinton’s national and international trips. Chris finished his tenure with the Clintons by directing the advance operations for then-Senator Hillary Clinton during her 2008 presidential campaign.
Another biography, published on the American University website, says Gowen worked with several other controversial Clinton projects, including The Clinton Global Initiative, The Clinton Foundation, and The Clinton Health Access Initiative.

Shortly after Awan’s arrest, Gowen immediately jumped into the fray and hit the ground running with allegations that Awan was a victim of Islamophobia. He labeled Awan’s arrest as part of “a right-wing media-driven prosecution by a United States Attorney’s Office that wants to prosecute people for working while Muslim"...it's almost as if the words are coming straight from Hillary's mouth.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-26/imran-awan-retains-long-time-cl...

The defense is 'Islamaphobia'???

Guess it makes sense. Their defense against disenfranchising Sanders supporters is they are allowed to lie, cheat and steal. And we should have KNOWN they were cheating. And it's just tough cookies if we were so stupid we believed their avowals of honestly and impartiality, so fuck off you idiots you!

It's their arrogance and blatant dishonesty that keeps surprising me. You'd think I'd eventually get used to it.

And Edited to add:

Congress IT Probe Suspects Had Massive Debts, Years Of Suspicious Activity

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/07/congress-it-probe-suspects-had-massive...

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it's not the russians.

He labeled Awan’s arrest as part of “a right-wing media-driven prosecution

And as a left wing loony tune, I can tell you that I'm thoroughly enjoying seeing the clinton cabal squirming.

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any more. Nothing.

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or was told to/'offered'?

Some guy just 'happens' to gain representation by a longtime Clinton operative.

Sounds like the Rich Family 'media personage'.

Nothing to see here. Carry on.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

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@on the cusp

I'd have been far more shocked if a Clinton consigliere wasn't called in.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

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@on the cusp
a little bit more 'subtle', not that they'd go for one of the mob's own 'consigliere'. It's sort of like Tom Hagen's relationship with the Corleone's. They have their fixers to keep all the secrets from spilling our.

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Rich family has a party supplied spokesman, and the IT guy has a Clinton lawyer. Nothing suspicious here.

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You mean like bombing a civilization full of Muslims into rubble and then laughing about it?

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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Several twitter campaigns have sprung up already, showing the Grass Roots support for the beleaguered Congressperson, who has been under relentless assault from the right wing for nothing more than her Gender.

See, if it had been DWS, that would have been the call.

However, Islam rates a higher "Can't say shit" factor so that's what they went with.

Just remember, if you want to know who rules you, keep in mind who you are not allowed to criticize.

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Just remember, if you want to know who rules you, keep in mind who you are not allowed to criticize.
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that their smashed hard drives be returned to them? I mean Awan's, not Hillary and Abedin.

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Orwell: Where's the omelette?

Awan transferred $283K to Pakistan right before trying to flee. An interesting mention of him owing money to someone who didn't get paid but had a FL Congressman hire the guy with a monthly paycheck.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-26/imran-awan-transferred-nearly-3...

Have a feeling this story is going to grow and grow.

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@jim p Who was he running from?
Was he trying to cross the political cartel he'd previously been working for?
Or is there really another power in DC opposing them?

This one has engaged my interest.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal than one faction among the powers that be; even Mao and Stalin had to deal with that.

Snagging Awad benefits Trump and his faction.

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@jim p I just thought he and his faction were so massively outmatched by the Clinton/Bush connection plus the Bush connection to the CIA and both families' connections to KSA that he didn't matter a lot. Despite being President. But maybe I've underestimated him.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal those FBI people, etc who worked against the Clintons. The agencies of state security in general are full of people who are right wing and Clinton haters. It's the media who are the C's main allies right now. Sooner or later I expect something so heinous to come out it can't be given the silent treatment. Even then I'd think a DWS type will fall on their sword.

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@jim p This is what has puzzled me for a year.
People who are connected to the security and military intel fields have told me that people in those fields absolutely despise Hillary, more for the fact that she's unwilling to obey any rules if they interfere with her convenience, and thus creates security leaks wherever she goes.

But at the same time, clearly the CIA and the NSA are on her side against Trump. They're the ones pushing this Russia narrative, actually blatantly out in the open since December (I don't have to even put forward a conspiracy theory on that one).

I guess I just figured they're willing to put up with her shit if she'll give them the war they want with Russia.

But I think you're right about the FBI. It is, at least, divided. And it's no new thing for the FBI and the CIA to be on opposite sides.

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--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
there have always been good people in the FBI, the NSA, and even in the CIA. These are the whistleblowers we learn from, people who act at great risk to themselves to inform the American people of wrongdoing in these agencies.

The VIPS who reported this week on their findings about the DNC leaks include agents and officials from all three of these institutions.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-e...

FOR THE STEERING GROUP, VETERAN INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS FOR SANITY

William Binney, former NSA Technical Director for World Geopolitical & Military Analysis; Co-founder of NSA’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center

Skip Folden, independent analyst, retired IBM Program Manager for Information Technology US (Associate VIPS)

Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq & Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan (associate VIPS)

Larry C Johnson, CIA & State Department (ret.)

Michael S. Kearns, Air Force Intelligence Officer (Ret.), Master SERE Resistance to Interrogation Instructor

John Kiriakou, Former CIA Counterterrorism Officer and former Senior Investigator, Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Linda Lewis, WMD preparedness policy analyst, USDA (ret.)

Lisa Ling, TSgt USAF (ret.) (associate VIPS)

Edward Loomis, Jr., former NSA Technical Director for the Office of Signals Processing

David MacMichael, National Intelligence Council (ret.)

Ray McGovern, former U.S. Army Infantry/Intelligence officer and CIA analyst

Elizabeth Murray, former Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA

Coleen Rowley, FBI Special Agent and former Minneapolis Division Legal Counsel (ret.)

Cian Westmoreland, former USAF Radio Frequency Transmission Systems Technician and Unmanned Aircraft Systems whistleblower (Associate VIPS)

Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA

Sarah G. Wilton, Intelligence Officer, DIA (ret.); Commander, US Naval Reserve (ret.)

Ann Wright, U.S. Army Reserve Colonel (ret) and former U.S. Diplomat

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
Pushing RussiaGate after the election was over did not really help Hillary in the short term, and the only long term would be another run for her in 2020 and I don't think there is any chance of that happening (plenty of time for them to sabotage her by then in any case).
This is simply about throwing issues at Trump to paralyze him.
As to war with Russia, I'm not sure how much the Deep Staters want a hot war, I think they want to step up containment and secure the pipeline route through Syria. Much as the propaganda enlarges the Russian threat, they are really a regional power.

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@WoodsDweller If they wanted a Cold War, they should have ditched Hillary long ago.
She's reckless. That much is visible even from ground level.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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and the Clintons.

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Assange tweeted to look at this email from Wasserman-Schultz that says:

"Pelosi is doing s closed door meeting. No staff or anyone allowed. Kaitlyn come to Rayburn room and get her iPad for Imran. Thanks. Tracie and Kate I will call Kate. Conf in Tracie Rosalyn Kumar Rep. Wasserman Schultz"

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/40464

Now, I can't figure for the life of me -- you already know the guy had been barred from Cgrsl servers; that there's a number of stories in the public record of this guy under investigation and doing really shady stuff (heh, when your mother sues you...) -- but you keep him on as a special advisor, paid, until there very day he gets arrested trying to flee the country ...

Nothing to see here, is it?

OK. Going over to TOP to shout "FREE AWAN" now. Would like to be ahead of the pack for giggles.

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@jim p
laughing out loud!

Not giggling!

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@Linda Wood

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@jim p
spouting that "... our current president, his son, and son-in-law who have clearly colluded with Russia to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election... "
Apparently TOP hasn't gotten the memo.

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@Wink
Hillary is working on a new book, The Hill. They want to keep the Trump/Russia bullshit going as a distraction.

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We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

@Azazello thanks, piling on.
Hachette to Publish Donna Brazile Book On 2016 Election

The book is described as a close examination of the 2016 presidential election, including the notorious scandals around Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee. According to a release from Hachette, the book outlines Brazile’s response to a “wholly unprecedented attempt by a foreign power to influence a presidential election.” The book will also look at Hillary Clinton’s response to the Russian intrusion and to the tactics of her Republican opponent, Donald Trump.

Described by the publisher as “equal parts campaign thriller, memoir, and roadmap for the future,” Hachette said the book will examine the “missteps, miscalculation and crimes of 2016.”

“At a moment when our democracy is in crisis, it’s time to tell the truth about what went wrong in 2016. Our nation is under unprecedented assault, and if we don’t get the facts out, it will happen again—and worse than you can imagine,” Brazile said.

peace

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to believe that anyone could believe that ANYONE could believe that,

Our nation is under unprecedented assault

because Russia supposedly hacked DNC emails and supposedly gave them to Wikileaks.

More of an assault than Pearl Harbor? More of an assault that 9/11? What are they trying to say? That screwing with an election is an unprecedented assault? OK, well, what the DNC emails say is that the DNC was screwing with the 2016 primary election, in which case, I guess that must be treason.

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@Dr. John Carpenter It'll be filed in the bargain bin. Unless they pull an old right-wing corporatist trick and buy up their own books to shove them to the top of the bestseller list.

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@Azazello

In the article you linked to Her says she wants the story out there. Her never used the word truth, just "the story". Since a story is something that is made up I'm guessing I'll find the book in the fiction section of my local book store.

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@Wink but it is hard to see what is really going on when you have your head so far up your own butt looking for Russians. Blush

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@jim p get her ipad for Imran? Why?

It always weirds me out when they don't even allow the staff in the meetings. That's creepy as fuck.

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@jim p
Post a link!!

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I'm assuming a few things:

DWS is the Clinton's creature, she's been doing their bidding as long as I can remember.
Awan is DWS's creature. She brought him (them) in and arranged their business with Democratic congresspeople - not everyone, just Democrats. Maybe because DWS didn't have pull with Republicans, maybe because she was targeting Democrats.
Did all those Democrats fall all over themselves to support Clinton's candidacy because of Hillary's gentle demeanor and sweet smile? Was it because of the bribes she could offer? Or was it because of threats regarding data obtained by DWS's cyber-thugs. Or both.
This choice of council indicates that Awan hasn't been thrown under the bus yet by the Clintons. So what spooked him? If the Clintons are still willing to protect him, are they for some reason no longer able to?

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@WoodsDweller It is just possible that the Clinton lawyer is not there to protect him, but to control what happens. This theory would be that he was about to cross them somehow, they got wind of it, he tried to flee, and now they're controlling what he says.

But there's two things wrong with that theory: one, if the Clinton-Bush Cartel controls 95% of what happens in DC, how was Awan going to cross them? I mean, who has enough power to offer him both enough money and enough safety to make it worth his while?

Secondly, I don't mean to be overly blunt, but why didn't they just kill him? If they were willing to kill Seth Rich, who is an English-speaking white guy who was born here, why wouldn't they be willing to kill a brown-skinned Muslim immigrant?

Understand, I'm not endorsing that particular hierarchy of values, but we all know it exists.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal This guy is not the only person who has the info.

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@on the cusp I hadn't thought of that. Good point. OK, that makes the not-killing him part make sense, but why was he arrested and given a lawyer rather than being given a bunk in a basement in Langley or some detention center somewhere? Also, it still doesn't resolve the question that's riling my brain: how could a cartel with as much power as the Clinton/Bush cartel feel threatened?

I mean, let's say it's information, something really damning. Who is going to publish it--maybe Wikileaks, I guess? But even if they did, why would the Clintons and the DNC need to care? Is there really a bad enough revelation that they would ever get even a slap on the wrist from our massively corrupt legal system? or our massively corrupt media? What is it? Pedophilia? Human trafficking of children? Weapons deals with Russia or the Islamic State?

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
"What is it? Pedophilia? Human trafficking of children? Weapons deals with Russia or the Islamic State?"
It's all of the above plus organ harvesting (see George Webb's research on youtube-- George Webb's research on the Awan brothers is exhaustive, so I'm now more inclined to believe him than I was before).
I think Awan was running out of fear of being killed.
Beranton Whisenant, U.S. Federal Prosecuter, who was working on Visa and Passport fraud, was found dead on the Miami Beach on May 24, 2017. DWS's district. Its thought that Visas obtained for the brothers and their wives- and the brothers had gone back and forth to Pakistan- were fraudulently obtained (think: DWS).
Then Kraus Eberwein, a former Haitian government official- who'd been in charge of distributing donor funds during/after the earthquake- was set to testify against the Clinton Foundation just days before he was found dead in a Miami hotel, July 12, 2017. Suicide, one bullet to the head. Miami hotel.
I think Awan was becoming afraid of his buddy and patron. And I agree with you about why he was supplied w/ a Clinton lawyer: to control him. He's out on bail w/ a GPS and curfew-- and I bet he's terrified.

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@on the cusp My brain is also having a hard time processing somebody as corrupt as this Awan guy suddenly wanting to sell info to Wikileaks for $$ when he was already working for people who were forking the money over bigtime. Can Wikileaks really outbid Clinton/Bush Inc?

Maybe he found something about how they planned to destroy Pakistan. Even criminals have their limits.

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-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal He's already gotten quite a bit of cash out of the DWS gig. Disgust is also a motivator for some. We're unlikely to learn soon since he's been lawyered up.

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@gustogirl @gustogirl Whoever was paying him (in whatever) to blackmail people would have to be able to provide security/protection or none of it would be worthwhile. Or he'd have to be able to provide security for himself, but I seriously doubt he could, not against the resources his targets would have.

"What's the point of a reward if you ain't around to use it?"

--Han Solo

I don't know. I don't pretend to understand what's going on here. Trying to imagine a scenario in which the data would make sense.

My gut sense of this is that he was not fleeing the Clintons, DWS, etc. But that's just a stab in the dark backed by part intuition and part a few data points not working with that hypothesis.

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-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal on this even if it is not for the same reasons.

My gut sense of this is that he was not fleeing the Clintons, DWS, etc.

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@gulfgal98

Since it was the FBI going after him, isn't there a chance that some of them were actually doing their jobs, uncontrolled by the Clinton or other factions, unless on the Republican side? Because it does seem beyond unlikely that the Clinton faction would have gone for an arrest.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North was a result of valid police work and for legitimate reasons outside the political spectrum. The Capitol police have a lot of autonomy. The Republicans are jumping all over this because it is scandal that they can make hay over. But it is beginning to expose what may be a rift in the Deep State which is both and yet neither Republican nor Democrat, if that makes sense. The political duopoly that we have been conditioned to think in terms of (Republican versus Democrat) is, in reality, a monopoly or one party.

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I couldn't possibly agree with you more and am immensely relieved to hear this from one of the many here for whose capacities and wider knowledge base I have such respect, thereby giving me hope.

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A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North That's a possibility.
It speaks to how far our country is sunk that we only bring up that possibility after a few days of discussion.

Rule of law, what's that.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@gustogirl It's just hard for me to imagine the Clinton machine responding to a threat of blackmail by arresting the guy, even if there were a dead man's switch. The CIA has been backing the Clinton/Bush machine and it just doesn't seem like them to have an arrest at an airport. That seems more like traditional cop stuff. It's not like them.

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"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
And not all his underlings are Clinton lovers. There are more than likely plenty of FBI personnel who would probably love to see Clinton and DWS twisting in the wind. There were enough of them around to investigate Slick and he was a popular president.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal
And I'm enjoying the hell of out this.
Wild speculation #1: Awan was the one who stole the DNC emails. He did it as a crime of opportunity, not as part of his work for DWS/Clinton.
Wild speculation #2: This one isn't so wild - Awan sold it to a middleman (and was well paid for it). There could have been a chain of middlemen, ending with someone (likely spooks from the nation state of your choice) who delivered it to WikiLeaks (for free). The forged Russia metadata was attached somewhere in this chain of middlemen.
Wild speculation #3: The Clintons just found out who stole the emails. They are pissed. That's what spooked Awan. His protection is now coming for him, and the money he got for that data isn't looking like such a great deal now.
Wild speculation #4: El Trumpo tweeted a couple of days ago about investigating the Clintons again. Sessions might want to regain some favor by reopening the investigation with new evidence. If nothing else it provides more misdirection in the daily news cycle.
Wild speculation #5: Everybody wants Awan. The Feds got him first, which is why he didn't suicide with two rounds to the back of the head. Issue: why wouldn't he be in protective custody? Now he's too high profile to simply drop dead, so the Clintons assigned a handler for him.

If Awan sings, RussiaGate is shown to be BS, the Clintons lose their propaganda, and pressure is removed from El Trumpo.

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@WoodsDweller First off, awesome Rick James/Dave Chapelle reference.

Second off, I absolutely know I'm speculating my ass off, mainly because I can't make the elements of this story fit into a coherent whole, whether a fictional one or one based in reality. I literally do not comprehend this data as part of a pattern, apart from the obvious pattern that DWS is so corrupt she stands out from the background of Clinton corruption as something special. So my brain keeps trying to come up with a framework that will hold all the pieces of data in reasonable relation to one another.

I like your stab at it a lot. There's definitely a logic to it. The bit about the Russian metadata bugs me a little bit--seems like the CIA or NSA would absolutely be the best candidates for doing that, and who in those organizations would both attach that forged data AND hand it on? It would have to be somebody who both hates Hillary Clinton and wants to go to war with Russia. That almost makes sense. Somebody who agrees with her insane PNAC policies--and wants to discredit Wikileaks--but also would love to embarrass her. Also, the bit about why he's in the public eye at all, why this was done as an arrest in public is a bit shaky, unless they were well and truly taken by surprise at the fact that he was the one doing it, and HAD to nab him at the airport b/c he was already on his way out.

However, if your speculation is correct, it would imply that the FBI really is still independent of the forces I'm lately calling The Cartel.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal factions within the FBI who may be fighting it out too. The ones who back Team A and the ones who back Team B which I believe is HER faction, neo-cons.

Maybe Awan was the leaker, one of them, and maybe it wasn't money but something else. Blackmail or political issues with Pakistan? Wasn't he having visa issues too? Interesting to speculate.

I could see Repugnants going after this as WoodsDweller so rightly points out - if Russia is disproven Trump loses a lot of stress AND it discredits Democrats.

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Impeach El Trumpo and you get Prez Pence. Many establishment Republicans would prefer that, but I doubt most others would.
The way to contain the damage is to keep Trump pinned down - under multiple investigations, investigations into his kids and staff, pry away staff wherever possible, let his numbers continue to drop so that Congress (where his support is only an inch deep to start with) isn't ready to stick out their necks for him. Trump doesn't handle pressure well.
Nixon had been in Washington for decades, knew where all the bodies were buried, and had actual political allies. Even that wasn't enough in the end.
El Trumpo has his twitter followers, half of which are bots.
RussiaGate is, so far, the key to keeping him under pressure. That means it's more than just a routine scandal, it's the only way to control him until gridlock can be re-established, hopefully in 2018.
If RussiaGate not only is shown to be a fake, but blows up in the face of the Democrats, it strengthens El Trumpo and the Republicans in the midterms, with all the horrors that implies.
There's more riding on this than appears at first glance. Certainly enough to panic one Pakistani who is in over his head.

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Pakistan is on TPTB's long-running hit list; might this even potentially be a factor in the spying done by these guys?

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Why Putin of course, you silly woman. Smile

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@snoopydawg ROTFLMFAO

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I dunno - Putin cut back on the military budget so he could blow money on pensions for his people; might have none to spare for bribery, the silly loser. And that's precisely the sort of disgraceful behaviour 'up with which TPTB will not put'.

(Please tell me this doesn't require a snark mark here, of all places?)

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smashed his hard drives and tried to flee the country in order to get arrested so he wouldn't be killed. But he's not in custody, is he?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/25/feds-arrest-it-staffer-for-wa...

… Awan, 37, of Virginia, pleaded not guilty Tuesday to one count of bank fraud during his arraignment in federal court in Washington, D.C. He was released but will have to wear a GPS monitor and abide by a curfew.

Well, at the very least he's become a public figure and if he disappears it will be more scandalous now.

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but it doesn't make sense.
Smashing the drives is just common sense, like remembering to take your passport and a change of underwear.
Setting yourself up for an arrest is needlessly complicated. You can't be sure you'll actually get arrested (though I suppose if he doesn't get arrested he gets out of the country), and more importantly you can't tell who is going to do the arresting, someone who wants you dead or someone who might keep you alive.
Instead you get a lawyer, contact the FBI, and tell them you have a story to tell in return for protective custody. Maybe smash the drives anyway, and have another copy somewhere safe so that you have it to bargain with.

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what you say sounds more realistic.

It's hard not to see a connection between the VIPS forensic report about a DNC leaker with access and Awan's arrest, just because of the timing. Like Seth Rich's murder a day before the filing of the exit polling lawsuit, it just tends to get your attention, even though there may be no connection.

What's clear, though, is that there's a lot of criminal activity flying in this shitstorm and that it's no longer possible to see anything that indicates legally responsible behavior on the part of the Party.

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@WoodsDweller @WoodsDweller and more importantly you can't tell who is going to do the arresting, someone who wants you dead or someone who might keep you alive.

And thus, as you originally said, his not being in protective custody is noteworthy.

But we can't have it both ways. If the reason they didn't just kill him is that he has a dead man's switch, neither could they leave him unprotected to be killed.

There have to be at least two fairly substantial powers in conflict here. I can't see how it could work out any other way. I'm just not sure whether the arrest was the Cartel's idea in order to keep Awan from releasing information overseas (it seriously doesn't seem like their MO, but needs must, I guess) or whether the FBI is, in fact, representing a faction separate from and to some extent opposed to the Cartel*.

*My current shorthand for the alliance of the Clintons, the Bushes, DWS, the DNC, Bush-allied Republican leadership (anti-Trump Republicans), the CIA, the NSA, and possible other assorted security or intelligence agencies or private firms involved in the same business). Wall St bankers and oil barons are also members of the board, but less directly involved in this particular matter.

EDIT: I take that last sentence back; actually the bankers are involved.

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@Linda Wood Oh shit. I hadn't thought of that. Still being arrested means his name is in the press. I just can't see the Clinton forces choosing to have him arrested.

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I'd read that he'd discovered he was about to be arrested for bank fraud, among other things? Is this not accurate? I've no way of verifying anything...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/26/wasserman-schultzs-pakis...

Dems cry Islamophobia, as Wasserman Schultz’s Pakistani IT guy arrested

By Cheryl K. Chumley - The Washington Times - Wednesday, July 26, 2017

ANALYSIS/OPINION:

Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s top information technology guy, the Pakistani-born Imran Awan — who was under investigation by the FBI for theft and cybersecurity-tied abuses — was arrested at Dulles International Airport as he tried to flee the country. ...

... Awan is the same guy who has made big bucks on the back of taxpayers for years, all while having largely unfettered access to computer-stored data from House Democrats. Can you say security breach? He’s also the same guy who just made a curious transfer of $283,000 to two individuals in Pakistan from his Longworth House Office Building, as reported by the Daily Caller News Foundation. He’s also the same guy whose wife and children just left America for Pakistan, reportedly carrying more than $12,000 in cash.

And he’s also the same guy who’s been under FBI investigation for some time for allegedly double-billing House members for items like computers, iPads and other technological equipment. He had quite a racket going on; Awan’s two brothers and their wives also served as IT staffers for House Democrats — for the last 10 years or so. ...

... Between the time Awan started working for Wasserman Schultz in 2005 and his family members were let go, earlier this year, they had collectively earned more than $4 million in tax paid salaries. In February, House members were alerted to potential for abuse and let go Awan’s family members. ...

... Agents with the U.S. Capitol Police, Border Protection and the FBI stopped him Tuesday at the airport, where he was headed to Pakistan by way of Qatar.

Part of the investigation involves what information the family had access to, and what they did with it. Awan, for instance, has been charged with fraudulently taking out mortgages as part of one of several alleged financial schemes — conducted at a time when he had access to emails and files of dozens of members of Congress and to information tied to Wasserman Schultz’s former Democratic National Committee organization. Feds also think the family may have put sensitive House information on the “cloud,” leaving it open for others to view. ...

Edit: of course, the official reasons for arrest might/might not cover the issue (no idea, obviously) but the mix of '...U.S. Capitol Police, Border Protection and the FBI...' given as the arresting agents struck me as being rather interesting.

Re-edit to add the rather obvious note that he seems just up the Clinton's alley as regards blatant venal criminality.

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for not killing him is because too many bodies are starting to stack up.

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Although when the stack of bodies becomes a subject of public notice, they tend to get buried under a blizzard of Big Lie repetitions... I hate that that still works on so many.

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(which may be revised later) that the Awans are part of a larger illegal weapons smuggling operation involving the Clintons with DWS as one of their closest allies in Congress. Remember, DWS is the one who got the highest security clearance for Imran Awan. I think the blackmail angle that we keep reading about has been overstated. It may be a cover story for what is really going on which could be as bad as treason on the part of some members of Congress. While Imran Awan may have had dirt on DWS or other Congress people, that does not adequately explain why a close Clinton attorney has rushed in to defend him. For now, I believe that Imran Awan was an asset to them, not a liability. Otherwise , it would have been easier for them to suddenly "off" him.

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@gulfgal98 , I'm surprised that Imran has suffered a suicide yet.

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@gulfgal98 I think it's extremely likely that members of Congress are being blackmailed on a regular basis. I don't know if it's through the Awans or not, but they certainly would have every opportunity.

Maybe it's more of a both-and. I find your theory of weapons smuggling convincing.

What is still the most unbelievable to me is that somehow Awan--and it seems likely, DWS and the Clinton machine--perceive a threat to themselves. Must be a threat of something being revealed, if hard drives were smashed. Who in the hell is spooking them?

I thought for a bit that maybe Awan had or was intending to double-cross them, and then he got spooked--by them. But that really doesn't make sense. Even if Awan intended to double-cross them with some foreign power player, they've still got the CIA to kill him with, even if he did get out of the country. And again, why wouldn't he just be killed? They're not shy about killing others.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal were being black mailed. The list I saw of members who employed the Awans were not exactly in the purity club. The salaries paid were shared by the members employing them at the time.

It is estimated that, over time, the Awans have made appearances on 80 House Democrats’ payrolls.

On Feb. 2, the Capitol Police met with chiefs of staff for the members employing the Awans and informed them of the investigation. Following the meeting, the Awans were terminated by some of the House Democrats, but it is unclear how many have parted ways with the suspects.

Along with the Democratic Caucus, Democrat House members who employed the Awans are listed below:

Marcia Fudge(D-OH)
Tim Ryan (D-OH)
Jim Costa (D-CA)
Sander M. Levin (D-MI)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
Yvette D. Clarke (D-NY)
Gregory W. Meeks (D-NY)
John P. Sarbanes (D-MD)
Jackie Speier (D-CA)
Diana Degette (D-CO)
Frederica S. Wlison (D-FL)
Cedric L. Richmond (D-LA)
David Loebsack (D-IA)
Karen Bass (D-CA)
Joyce Beatty (D-OH)
Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO)
Lois Frankel (D-FL)
Daniel T. Kildee (D-MI)

I am still of the belief that the Awans were working with at least one (DWS) or more members on illegal activities. I have seen some info that seems to indicate the Awans were associated with Pakistani intelligence (similar to our CIA) which would mean that they could have been working with an illegal weapons smuggling operation. This family is highly connected in Pakistan from what I have read.

The Capitol Police and field FBI probably would not have known this so it is possible what we are seeing with this arrest is the result of a valid investigation outside of the Deep State connections.

While it sounds absurd on the surface, I firmly believe that there is far more to this than meets the eye. Things simply are not adding up in the absence of some deeper connection between Imran Awan and our own Deep State powers.

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I know Assange has some arrangement for an info release should he prematurely die.

The Awan bros had access to stuff that reaches high inside the Clinton cartel.

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@gustogirl Either he wasn't double-crossing them at all--or a deadman's switch is likely the only thing that's keeping him alive.

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@gustogirl That is, assuming he was trying to cross the Cartel. My best guess (which ain't worth much) is still that he wasn't and that he was fleeing somebody else.

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The CIA and Hillary's state department smuggled Gaddafi's weapons out of the Benghazi embassy to give to the Al Qaida rebels and this is when Stevens was killed.
There is a possibility that they were the ones who gave sarin gas to the rebels. There are conflicting reports about where it came from.

My theory is that the Awans know too much information about the Clinton foundation and it's shenanigans. This information would be worth killing for because of the number of people who are caught up in it.

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The Clinton Foundation. I didn't even think of that. It's a dark pit of vile corruption.
If Awan had gotten hold of any dirt on that it would make for one hell of a dead man switch. It might explain Chris Gowen.
We may not be close to puzzling out the truth, but we've got the start of a pretty good screenplay here.

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While admittedly speaking as One Who Knows Nothing, that would make sense and certainly fits in with Clinton 'business as usual'. And if he wasn't an asset and expected to continue being one, or otherwise protected, I suspect that he'd have had a nasty accident/suicide/'failed robbery' long before now.

Wouldn't it be lovely if his FBI investigation opened the giant can of 'exceptional' worms and got TPTB and their lackeys squashed by official and honestly patriotic FBI/police boots, even if only on the Dem side for starters? (I livz in my dreamz...)

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@Ellen North I just want this corruption and those involved in it exposed for the American people to see.

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Hmmmm, I wonder who leaked the Podesta e-mails?

Motive - $$$

Opportunity? Yes.

Making popcorn

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@SpamNunn Then are we saying that Seth Rich didn't download the data from the DNC servers?

I'm inclined to trust the former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, the person who received the data and took it out of the country and turned it over to Wikileaks. He said the source was an insider who was distressed/horrified at what the DNC was doing to Bernie Sanders. That wouldn't be Awan.

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal I believe there may have been at least two leakers. The information that went to Wikileaks via Craig Murray was handed over some time after Seth Rich's murder. I get all these leaks mixed up, so I am not sure if those were DNC, DCC, or Podesta. But Seth Rich had access to DNC system only and it has been reported that he somehow gave his leaks to Wikileaks via Gavin McFayden who has since died.

Here is what I found in an article at Counterpunch.

Here’s the scoop from Robert Parry at Consortium News:

“Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray, has suggested that the DNC leak came from a “disgruntled” Democrat upset with the DNC’s sandbagging of the Sanders campaign and that the Podesta leak came from the U.S. intelligence community….He (Murray) appears to have undertaken a mission for WikiLeaks to contact one of the sources (or a representative) during a Sept. 25 visit to Washington where he says he met with a person in a wooded area of American University. ….

Though Murray has declined to say exactly what the meeting in the woods was about, he may have been passing along messages about ways to protect the source from possible retaliation, maybe even an extraction plan if the source was in some legal or physical danger…Murray also suggested that the DNC leak and the Podesta leak came from two different sources, neither of them the Russian government.

Murray has since said that he did not personally receive documents from the person he met outside American University but characterized his duties in the September meeting as "administrative" which seems to support the information in the Counterpunch article.

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@gulfgal98 @gulfgal98 here at c99 that answers many of your questions. Have'nt figured out how to link, but the latest should still be current and go to its first c99 link.

The upshot is that Seth did the first doc leak. The second (Guccifer 2.0) was a planted leak by Crowdstrike without much in the way of juice but metadata edited to make it look Russian hack. But it was an internal download, not a hack based on dataspeed.

Sorry gg Smile I meant this for can't stop the signal..

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@gustogirl I was referring to was the later leak of what I believe to be the Podesta emails. It came to Wikileaks sometime around or after the Sept 25 meeting Craig Murray had with either the leaker or a person representing the leaker. Murray described his job in that meeting as "administrative," and he did not physically receive any documents.

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@gustogirl thanks gustogirl--I've been looking for those essays. veganmark writes a lot about this issue, so I'm not sure which ones they are, but I'll be going through them over the next day or two.

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study shows there were 2 leaks:

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-e...

Intel Vets Challenge ‘Russia Hack’ Evidence
July 24, 2017

… Forensic studies of “Russian hacking” into Democratic National Committee computers last year reveal that on July 5, 2016, data was leaked (not hacked) by a person with physical access to DNC computers, and then doctored to incriminate Russia.

… From the information available, we conclude that the same inside-DNC, copy/leak process was used at two different times, by two different entities, for two distinctly different purposes:

-(1) an inside leak to WikiLeaks before Julian Assange announced on June 12, 2016, that he had DNC documents and planned to publish them (which he did on July 22) – the presumed objective being to expose strong DNC bias toward the Clinton candidacy; and

-(2) a separate leak on July 5, 2016, to pre-emptively taint anything WikiLeaks might later publish by “showing” it came from a “Russian hack.”

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@Linda Wood That makes total sense. It's the Awan brothers' part in all this that is more complex. Perhaps more information will emerge.

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Going by what I've read, (for whatever that's worth) the Awans are criminals, self-interested, corrupt and venal, just like the Clintons on a smaller scale. If they've done what they've been said to have done, it's difficult to imagine them leaking anything and risking their lives for any good cause which involves not enriching themselves. Just saying.

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@Ellen North director is willing to offer this guy to get him to talk? More millions? Certainly immunity from prosecution. Resettlement of 100 or so of his nearest and dearest?

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@Nastarana Good point on the resettlement although, obviously, that one would be kicked in the head at this point (if he's fleeing the country).

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@Ellen North I know--that's why I have a hard time believing it's Wikileaks. Wikileaks would have to outbid what the Clintons were already paying. And then there's the danger involved.

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@gulfgal98 @gulfgal98 Well, if there were more than one disgruntled DNC employee involved with the leak. or even in Rich's confidence--not at all improbable--Seth Rich getting killed would certainly make him/her want to seek reliable advice.

I got my timeline confused; I thought Craig Murray went to American University before Seth Rich was killed.

Robert Parry is excellent; one of the few real journalists covering this sort of thing we have left.

The Podesta leak looked to me like pretty lameass easy stuff; the guy got phished and gave away his password. If U.S. intelligence is responsible for it, guess whoever was running the phishing software put the info up for sale and somebody in US intelligence bought it--unless our highly paid intelligence community is running lameass phishing attempts as the way to get their data. /facepalm

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