The AP comes clean. Sort of.

Submitted by edg on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 12:00pm

In stories published April 6, June 2, June 26 and June 29, The Associated Press reported that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies have agreed that Russia tried to influence the 2016 election to benefit Donald Trump. That assessment was based on information collected by three agencies - the FBI, CIA and National Security Agency - and published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which represents all U.S. intelligence agencies. Not all 17 intelligence agencies were involved in reaching the assessment.

CLARIFICATION: TRUMP-RUSSIA STORIES

This, along with the New York Time's retraction essayed by gjohnsit here, is a good start, I suppose.

You'll notice, though, that in the retraction, AP doesn't admit that the "information collected by three agencies" was primarily based on two phony sources: 1) The "trumped" up DNC hacking report by Russophobic, Clinton-supporting Crowdstrike, and 2) the laughably ludicrous "dossier" created by Christopher Steele and published by credulous yellow journalism (pun intended) site BuzzFeed.

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 12:36pm
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"17 intelligence agencies" canard is a good smack-down of Hillary. She has used this term hundreds of times whenever she blamed Russia for her woes.

Who was more correct (and sane and logical) in that debate? Is it any wonder Trump won? Too bad Hillary's people in the military and intelligence agencies stuck a knife in his back when he became president. This one item could have been the biggest and best outcome of the garbage election.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 1:35pm

@CB I didn't watch the debates because I figured she would sound like a nut.
I just watched this 3:55 minute video, and I was correct.

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Submitted by dkmich on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 2:12pm

They have to fall to the ground because no one and nothing can be trusted.

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Submitted by detroitmechworks on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 3:27pm
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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpByf5nFCO8]

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 3:56pm
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The US, its institutions and its leadership on both sides of the aisle have become a fucking embarrassment on the world stage. What's worse, the majority of American citizens can't/won't even recognize this.

There's a saying: stupid is as stupid does.

And to rub salt into America's wounds, Maria is not only a very intelligent woman, she is also a good dancer.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 5:30pm
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now it's not only that Russia interfered with the election, hacked Hillary's emails and hacked the Vermont electrical grid, now there's evidence that Trump, Russia and ALEC did something with Hillary's stolen emails.

A person tried to get another person to verify them, but he didn't because it would have been treason, so ......... Oh hell, I have no idea what the story was because it didn't make any sense.

If one story has been proven to be false, find a new one.

Oh Hillary, you know that this isn't true: "we have never had a foreign government interfere with our elections before"
Isn't Israel a foreign government? Or AIPAC? You know that no one can get elected to congress unless they swear fealty to Israel. Durban didn't kiss the ring and he lost his re-election bid because of it.

BTW, I'm sure Hillary knows who Saim Haben is. He is a huge donor to the DNC and when it looked like Ellison was going to be in charge of it, he threatened to withhold funds unless Perez was installed. Surely you knew that.

BTW, why didn't you ever address what the emails proved?

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Leaked, not hacked

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 6:00pm
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released due to a FOI request from Judicial Watch. It was the Defense Department that released them. WikiLeaks gave a searchable index for them. I don't know who inserted the meme that Russia had anything to do with this.

Hillary Clinton Email Archive

On March 16, 2016 WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive for over 30 thousand emails & email attachments sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private email server while she was Secretary of State. The 50,547 pages of documents span from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014. 7,570 of the documents were sent by Hillary Clinton. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of PDFs by the US State Department as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. The final PDFs were made available on March 3, 2017.

Same old, same old shit. When they get caught in their lies, they muddy the waters and say "look over there". The US government seems to be populated by some of the stupidest fucks in the world. Maybe we should chip in and buy them some bubble gum to keep them busy so they don't continue doing stupid things.

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Submitted by native on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 6:15pm

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as well as a large amount of power within the US government. If Russia had half as much control over US foreign policy as Israel does, everybody would be freaking out. With good reason!

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 6:39pm
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That's the Peter W. Smith story, which is causing things like this:

The GOS: Not only did Russia interfere with the election, hack Hillary's emails and hack the Vermont electrical grid, now there's evidence that Trump, Russia and ALEC did something with Hillary's stolen emails. A person tried to get another person to verify them, but he didn't because it would have been treason, so...

Oh hell, I have no idea what the story was because it didn't make any sense.

Apparently, Peter W. Smith was trying to peddle "Hillary evidence" or collude with the Russians for Trump, and he suddenly dropped dead the other day. So Putin must have done it. Oh, wait… he was 81 years old. It has Desperate Dems all fluffed up. You'll find the antiRussian conspiracy pump located at this site. Otherwise, it's hard to keep up without the Cliff Notes Wink

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 7:04pm
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Of Course U.S. Candidates Have Ties to Russia

The attempts by Hillary Clinton's campaign to paint Donald Trump as the candidate of President Vladimir Putin has led to an intense search for the Republican nominee's Russian connections. Not much has turned up. But Russian oligarchs are among the Clinton campaign donors.

Hillary also used the power of her office as Secretary of State to facilitate a deal between Boeing and Russia. After the deal was completed, Boeing donated $900 thousand to her foundation.

She also helped broker a deal with a Russian mining company that allowed them to take 20% of our uranium.
Funny how Rachel has never mentioned these deals, isn't it?
Maybe if she was paid more than $30,000/day or $7 million a year she would find the time to look into these stories.

I admired her when she was on Air America and did the "life during war time" segments. She has changed so much since then.

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 7:23pm
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And GE and Rolls-Royce can't make turbines and jet engines w/o Russian titanium.

Boeing Is Fixed In Titanium Valley
Monday December 26, 2016 20:49 MSK / Roman Gusarov / Russian Aviation

The world's largest aerospace company Boeing and the world leader in the production of titanium forgings for the aviation industry VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation announced the expansion of capacities of Ural Boeing Manufacturing on December 21, 2016. The new production facility will be located in the Special Economic Zone Titanium Valley, located in the territory of Sverdlovsk region. There will be performed the processing of titanium forgings within all programs of the Boeing civil aircrafts, including 787 family and new 737 MAX and 777X families, the beginning of this manufacture is scheduled for 2017. The opening of the plant is scheduled for the 1st quarter of 2018.

Boeing and VSMPO Avisma to launch second joint production site

A new production site of Ural Boeing Manufacturing (UBM) will become operational in the first quarter of 2018. UBM is a 50/50 joint venture between Boeing and Russian titanium giant VSMPO Avisma, based in Sverdlovsk Region, Russia’s Urals. Construction of the new site, which will double UBM’s production capacity, is already underway.

The new site will be highly automated and capable of final, as well as rough machining of components for Boeing’s commercial programs 737MAX, 777, 787 and the new 777Х. The production of the latter model is scheduled for next year.

The facility will have the floor of nearly 20,000 square meters. Neither of the partners has disclosed the investment into the new facility or the projected volume of titanium it will produce.
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Titanium will also be needed for the new Boeing 777X program, the backlog for which now stands at 320 firm orders. Notably, according to a contract signed at MAKS-2015 air show near Moscow the joint venture is Boeing’s key supplier of moulded parts for Boeing 777X.

Boeing also emphasized that its Russian joint venture supplies parts for third parties, including General Electric and Rolls-Royce, as well as manufacturers of landing gear. That brings the final share of UBM’s production on Boeing aircraft to over 35%.
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Submitted by native on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 7:54pm

@CB
at Putin's villainy seems curiously selective at times.

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Submitted by GreatLakeSailor on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 8:11pm
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Putin → Moscow → Russia → Titanium → UBM → Boeing → 777 → United Airlines → I have flown on United Airlines!!!1! OMG, Imma Russian agent under direct control of Putin!!1!

--Next Rachel Maddow Show

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Submitted by edg on Sun, 07/02/2017 - 12:00pm
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Would that "Great Lake" you sail on happen to be Lake Baikal?

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Submitted by GreatLakeSailor on Sun, 07/02/2017 - 1:42pm
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@edg

They're both fresh water so it might as well be.

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Submitted by lotlizard on Sun, 07/02/2017 - 1:19am
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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22haim+saban%22&t=ffsb&ia=web

One of the media franchises he controls is The Onion.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22haim+saban%22+onion+clinton&t=ffsb&ia=web

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Submitted by Ellen North on Sun, 07/02/2017 - 11:35am

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Probably everybody knows this, but I'm posting a few tempting tid-bits from the below article (best read in full at source) anyway.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/22/meet-hillarys-1-campaign-donor-i...

Meet Hillary’s # 1 Campaign Donor, Israeli Billionaire Haim Saban

By GPD on April 22, 2016

Hillary Clinton has gone all in to win US Presidency and is using foreign donors to do it making a special deal with one issue guy Israeli Haim Saban

... Political views and fundraising

Saban says his greatest concern is to protect Israel. At a conference in Israel, Saban described his formula. His three ways to influence American politics were: make donations to political parties, establish think tanks, and control media outlets. ...

... Saban has been a generous and consistent donor to the United States Democratic Party according to his mandatory Federal Election Commission filings. Mother Jones, in an analysis of the major donors to the campaigns of 1998 election cycle, ranked Saban 155th among individual donors. Amy Paris noted that Saban’s Clinton-era “generosity did not go unrewarded. During the Clinton administration, the entertainment executive served on the President’s Export Council, advising the White House on trade issues.” The New York Times reported that Haim and his wife “slept in the White House several times during President Clinton’s two terms.” Saban remains close friends with the former President. Clinton described Saban as a “very good friend and supporter.” Saban contributed between $5 million to $10 million to the William J. Clinton Foundation. ...

... On May 19, 2008, it was reported that Haim Saban had “offered $1 million to the Young Democrats of America during a phone conversation in which he also pressed for the organization’s two uncommitted superdelegates to endorse Hillary Clinton as the Democratic nominee for president.”

Saban has also made donations to members of the Republican Party including a 2003 contribution to George W. Bush‘s 2004 re-election campaign.
Saban Center for Middle East Policy
Main article: Saban Center for Middle East Policy

In 2002 Saban provided an initial grant of 13 million USD and a pledge of additional funds to create the Saban Center for Middle East Policy, a foreign policy think tank based in Washington, D.C.. The Saban Center is part of the larger Brookings Institution think tank.[29] The Saban Center aims to provide policy makers in government with information and analysis regarding America’s foreign policy in the Middle East. Saban recruited Martin Indyk to direct the center. ...

... Saban National Political Leadership Training Seminar

Saban sponsors the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee’s Saban National Political Leadership Training Seminar, a series of semiannual seminars in Washington to provide college student activists for three days of intensive pro-Israel advocacy training.[31] ...

... California redistricting

In 2005, Saban spent $100,000 to oppose California’s 2005 Proposition 77 redistricting reform. Saban contributed $100,000 to pass California’s 2008 redistricting reform, Proposition 11, which created a Citizens Redistricting Commission to redraw California’s state political boundaries, but not U.S. Congressional districts. Saban contributed $2,000,000 to support Proposition 27, California’s proposed 2010 repeal of Proposition 11, the 2008 redistricting reform – the same reform that Haim Saban previously supported with a $100,000 contribution. He joined list of other well-connected, big-money donors to the Democratic Party in supporting Proposition 27. ...

... Saban, a long-time supporter and donor of many pro-Jewish and Israel causes, has stated his main goal in multiple interviews: “I’m a one-issue guy, and my issue is Israel.”

The projection light - it burns! it burns!

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Submitted by CB on Sat, 07/01/2017 - 6:04pm
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